Numa nota que soltaram no site Forza sobre a atualização 5.0 de fevereiro vao corrigir isso, dizem que o som ta literalmente errado e vao colocar o certo...assim espero
Why didn't the 2 studios just share all the good sounds between the games? Then both can be good in that department instead of being bad with some sounds. Yes, it's because they wanna be different. But different isn't always better.
On top of sharing all their audio assets, they'd have to share code and implementation between the two dev teams so the audio is processed in the exact same way. Chances are that would be a massive undertaking since we are looking at 2 different games developing at 2 different times, while at the same time being based on 2 different games by 2 different teams. There's a lot of different ways you could build code within the same engine, and I'd think that it's not hard for the different workflows, pipelines, and office politics to affect the way each game handles audio at a very fundamental level. Also because the games have very opposing creative direction. Or it could literally just be incompetence/laziness/bureaucracy/poor communication/politics/logistics etc. that significant assets/code was not shared who knows?
@@FREEofVEGETABLES how come with the use of a single file assetto corsa modders are able to change the script and sound of any car from all points (interior exterior bonnet etc) and this not be close to possible on fh5? whilst i understand games are developed differently, if its a case of a single dude creating the sounds for the car and making it into a single file to work across all cars on assetto corsa why is this not the case for forza?
@@fintan. Not familiar with how that game is built but it could be because it was built with some degree of modding in mind or just built in a simpler way? Forza is a relatively locked down game, in part because of its history as an Xbox exclusive and in part because of how universal windows apps work. I would suspect that AC is programmed in a more straightforward way than Forza tho
@@FREEofVEGETABLES that’s a reasonable point you make, the studio that made assetto corsa is much smaller, however the game is available on console too (no mods obviously) so i suspect that may not be the case. There seems to be a huge discontent between the devs and the corps at xbox/turn 10. a couple months ago we saw a lot of people high up in forzas corp side get sacked followed by a huge release of DLC content. It looks to me that this is more just a case of corpos associating cost to make this possible and would rather have devs working on a new game (to make more money) thanks for your insight thoigh
I think Forza Motorsport 8 sounds too smooth and the sounds don't have enough noise whereas FH5 is the complete opposite where all the sounds are 50% noise and clicking and the other 50% are the actual engine sounds.
I love driving in first person mode in Forza Horizon 5 cause you hear the turbo stutter and supercharger whine better. In third person you hear the snap crackle n pop out the tailpipe better.
Highlights: Hemis and Modular V8 sounded way better in FM, Valkyrie and Essenza sounds way more mean in FH5. FM really nails that vtec sound, same with the rotary. Skyline in FM sounded more like the OG R32 Group A car and in FH5 it sounds tuned stock and stock when tuned. Huayra R would've sounded good in FM if it wasn't a Huayra R, Carrera GT was butchered in FH5 and is way better sounding in FM.
I kinda dig the Apollo sound in forza Motorsport. As well as these. The f50 gt sounds wonderful. Need that sound in fh5. The Honda civic needs that forza Motorsport sound in fh5. The skyline r34 sounds good in Motorsport. Want that sound in fh5. The carrera gt I think needs that forza Motorsport sound treatment. & that’s about it.
Honestly, some from FM sounded good, some from FH also sounded good. I wish they took the good audios from each car, and that way they could have all the cars sound as close as it could.
the nature of sounds between the two games are very different that it would be awkward if a car's sound file from one game is copied to the other (fm8 sounds are more atmospheric and sound very computerized while fh5 sounds are more arcadey)
lol, in the arcade race which is DLC for the previous installment, the sound is better than in the simulator which the developers claimed to have made from scratch
I’ve played every forza since fm2 and forza Motorsport is the first one I haven’t bought since. I tried it on gamepass and I made a good choice not buying it. Really a disappointment. They had so long for the game just for it to be a letdown
Only sounds that are bit better in FM, are Shelby GT500 and 488 Challange. Anything else, FH5 has better and more dynamic (gear shifts, off power, under load etc.) sounds IMO
FH5 sounds may not be the most realistic but they sound so much better than FM Cuz in the end FH5 is about the gameplay and making player happy. It's not about simulating the sound. Its about perfecting the sound 😌
rankings: apollo: fm8 valkyrie: fh5 chiron: fm8 super bee: fh5 viper: fh5 challenger: fm8 f50: fh5 488: fh5 gt: fm8 gt '16: fm8 gt500: fh5 gma: fh5 civic: fh5 essenza: fh5 lfa: fh5 mazda rotary: fh5 rx7: fh5 amg one: fh5 r34: fh5 z: fh5 huayra: fh5 carrera gt: fm8 subaru: fm8 supra: fm8 supra gr: fh5 this all really came down to which version sounded more accurate, but making one game's sounds better is more complicated than just reusing the other's sound files - in general, fm8 sounds are very computerized while fh5 sounds are very aracedey on the other hand - they are very different
Hate the fact that there's literally no low-end fequencies in the enigine sounds, which I reckon they did only to prevent it from clashing with the radio and sound fx. Such a poor choice
Motorsport wins in terms of keeping the bass from the engine and doesn't have the white noise that makes the Horizon engines sound bitcrushed (which is still something I don't get). Horizon wins for the overall sounds, especially the way how car the cars shift
Imo the engine sounds arent different. The audio engine is. There is a lot less reverb in Horizon and more high frequency sound, where Motorsport is very echoee and a lot of mid frequency sound.
Still dont like the artificial RPM twitch they add on everything. Way overused and excessive. Like the rpm shouldnt always twitch around on every linear gear change especially on manual cars. Its silly when its not even in line with the cars acceleration too
Many cars and environmental sounds sound better in Forza Motorsport. The truth is that in any game with hundreds of car models, there are more elaborate and less elaborate sounds. Both FH5 and GT7 have a lot of terrible sounding cars...
Both are equally good and equally bad, why can't they just go back to the sounds they used for FM4 and FM3, cars used to sound raw but now they sound synthetic. And why is the V12 in horizon games just the same generic V12 sound slightly tweaked each time. Motorsport had better sounds i think but other then the recycled V12 sound in horizon it's still fairly good, especially the LFA, that was much better than horizon. Also horizon has some cool gear changing sounds, sometimes its unnecessary but it really works for some cars
I was thinking that, like the nissan z, for example. In Fh5, the back vent you can see is like a small hexagon shape, but in fm23, it's just a black line.
@@misterai5158 it does look better hun💀 it has better lighting and graphics, FH2 don't have snow, FH3 onwards does and it's better FH3 to FH5 didn't have much graphical jump but it's definitely better than FH2 FH5 lacks on city content and story creativity tho, FH3 GOATED, yet both has better sound accuracy than other FHs
@@stoje8405 at no point did i diss fh3, however i did diss fh5, and nah, fh5 looks like crap, literally do a comparison, and fh2 looks better. and who cares about snow, when the game is awful.
@@misterai5158 compare it with rl and you'll actually notice FH5 is better lol, you're just stuck with nostalgia, FH2 is one of the goats but sorry FH5 is just better, not even close
Forza Motorsport is a disgrace to car fans. Simply pathetic to deliver such an awful audio experience! We are in 2024! Developers need to step up now! COME ON!
Forza motorsport is one of the worst sounding games I've ever played, ever, the LFA is awful. Most cars sound generic and nothing like the real thing. I think they just recorded a guy in a broom closet going rrraaam rraaaaam raaaaaa
Timestamps:
00:00 - Apollo Intensa Emozione
00:23 - Aston Martin Valkyrie
00:43 - Bugatti Chiron
01:03 - Dodge Super Bee
01:23 - Dodge Viper GTS
01:43 - Dodge Demon
02:03 - Ferrari F50 GT
02:23 - Ferrari 488 Challenge #25
02:43 - Ford GT '05
03:03 - Ford GT '17
03:23 - Ford Shelby GT500
03:43 - GMA T.50
04:03 - Honda Civic Type R
04:23 - Lamborghini Essenza SCV12
04:43 - Lexus LFA
05:03 - McLaren 787B (Swapped)
05:23 - Mazda RX-7 Spirit R
05:43 - Mercedes-AMG ONE
06:03 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R34
06:23 - Nissan Z
06:43 - Pagani Huayra R
07:03 - Porsche Carrera GT
07:23 - Subaru WRX STi
07:43 - Toyota Supra RZ
08:03 - Toyota GR Supra
Mazda 787 not McLaren
Wow some FH5 cars like the Valkyrie, Superbee and LFA sound waaay closer to the real thing. Makes me wonder why they didn’t just reuse the audio.
FM had to be "built from the ground up"
@@GabsARVit seems more "going to the ground"
FM devs are fucking goofy goobers that are lazy and needed a quick buck that's why
its because the two games are technically made by two different studios
Won't say the Superbee, the pitch in FM is spot on
The time it took to unlock the Huayra R on FM8 and time sinpky waiting for that disappointing sound too 😂
Man the Zonda Cinque was way worse
Forza's regressed back to FH4 levels of sound quality
Exaggerated.
@@dayoneto No uh
If that were the case that would actually be a win. FM4 had the best sounds in the series history IMO.
@@JacquelineLanceTenor he said FH4 as in Forza Horizon 4, not Motorsport 4
Thought that said fm4 lol mb
Sick video man, the differences are actually quite big
Thanks man, happy to hear you enjoyed👊
I cant believe that FM gave the LFA the Audi V10 noise, it just isnt right!
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@@760giovanidid they do it?
Why didn't the 2 studios just share all the good sounds between the games? Then both can be good in that department instead of being bad with some sounds. Yes, it's because they wanna be different. But different isn't always better.
On top of sharing all their audio assets, they'd have to share code and implementation between the two dev teams so the audio is processed in the exact same way. Chances are that would be a massive undertaking since we are looking at 2 different games developing at 2 different times, while at the same time being based on 2 different games by 2 different teams. There's a lot of different ways you could build code within the same engine, and I'd think that it's not hard for the different workflows, pipelines, and office politics to affect the way each game handles audio at a very fundamental level. Also because the games have very opposing creative direction.
Or it could literally just be incompetence/laziness/bureaucracy/poor communication/politics/logistics etc. that significant assets/code was not shared who knows?
@@FREEofVEGETABLESprobably the latter
@@FREEofVEGETABLES how come with the use of a single file assetto corsa modders are able to change the script and sound of any car from all points (interior exterior bonnet etc) and this not be close to possible on fh5? whilst i understand games are developed differently, if its a case of a single dude creating the sounds for the car and making it into a single file to work across all cars on assetto corsa why is this not the case for forza?
@@fintan. Not familiar with how that game is built but it could be because it was built with some degree of modding in mind or just built in a simpler way? Forza is a relatively locked down game, in part because of its history as an Xbox exclusive and in part because of how universal windows apps work.
I would suspect that AC is programmed in a more straightforward way than Forza tho
@@FREEofVEGETABLES that’s a reasonable point you make, the studio that made assetto corsa is much smaller, however the game is available on console too (no mods obviously) so i suspect that may not be the case. There seems to be a huge discontent between the devs and the corps at xbox/turn 10. a couple months ago we saw a lot of people high up in forzas corp side get sacked followed by a huge release of DLC content. It looks to me that this is more just a case of corpos associating cost to make this possible and would rather have devs working on a new game (to make more money) thanks for your insight thoigh
forza motorsport sound department should be fired they didn't record real car sound
that’s actually sad when the sounds in FH are better than FM for the past 3 games
Fm7 was pretty good imo
not the same developpers
@@cassien.m4810 doesn’t matter
I think Forza Motorsport 8 sounds too smooth and the sounds don't have enough noise whereas FH5 is the complete opposite where all the sounds are 50% noise and clicking and the other 50% are the actual engine sounds.
True, FH has more noise to it. Too bad a lot of em had more irl accurate sounds. Looks like T10 needed Playground's help for sound design.
that Essenza SCV12 definetly one of my favourites when it comes to the sound
I love driving in first person mode in Forza Horizon 5 cause you hear the turbo stutter and supercharger whine better. In third person you hear the snap crackle n pop out the tailpipe better.
Highlights:
Hemis and Modular V8 sounded way better in FM, Valkyrie and Essenza sounds way more mean in FH5. FM really nails that vtec sound, same with the rotary. Skyline in FM sounded more like the OG R32 Group A car and in FH5 it sounds tuned stock and stock when tuned. Huayra R would've sounded good in FM if it wasn't a Huayra R, Carrera GT was butchered in FH5 and is way better sounding in FM.
The huayra R sounds like a v8 in Fm8. Forza Horizon 5 nailed it
@@mrfishsticks266 nope, in FM it sounds like a regular Huayra lol
one thing that sucks about FH5 is the lack of partial throttle sound differences. they really dropped the ball with that one
I kinda dig the Apollo sound in forza Motorsport.
As well as these.
The f50 gt sounds wonderful. Need that sound in fh5.
The Honda civic needs that forza Motorsport sound in fh5.
The skyline r34 sounds good in Motorsport.
Want that sound in fh5.
The carrera gt I think needs that forza Motorsport sound treatment.
& that’s about it.
Honestly, some from FM sounded good, some from FH also sounded good. I wish they took the good audios from each car, and that way they could have all the cars sound as close as it could.
Horizon 5 is better than Motorsport, but still doesn’t sound that great in its own right.
Love the sound comparisons! Great vid 💪
Glad you enjoyed bro!👍
In FM8 some cars sound like they have a single clutch and a manual gearbox instead the opposite
Where did you see a 8 ? Just wondering
@@MoJo-2977 it’s the 8th Motorsport game so of course ima say FM8
Fh5 sounded better
Sounds better but Motorsport is actually more realistic sounding
@@goldybolt947to me Motorsport doesn’t sound realistic it sounds so computer generated
@@goldybolt947but it’s your opinion tho.
@@goldybolt947yeah only SOME are realistic sounding lmao
@@WEC_Connoiseur yeah true in my opinion
The Viper engine sound is the best it has ever been in FM8
For all the cars that sound bad in FM but good in FH5, I don't get why they don't just literally copy FH5's sound files.
the nature of sounds between the two games are very different that it would be awkward if a car's sound file from one game is copied to the other (fm8 sounds are more atmospheric and sound very computerized while fh5 sounds are more arcadey)
fh5 goated
lol, in the arcade race which is DLC for the previous installment, the sound is better than in the simulator which the developers claimed to have made from scratch
I’ve played every forza since fm2 and forza Motorsport is the first one I haven’t bought since. I tried it on gamepass and I made a good choice not buying it. Really a disappointment. They had so long for the game just for it to be a letdown
I don't get how fh can win the competition so hard, fm doesn't stand a chance
Fh2/Fh3 kings of vtec sounds
Only sounds that are bit better in FM, are Shelby GT500 and 488 Challange. Anything else, FH5 has better and more dynamic (gear shifts, off power, under load etc.) sounds IMO
GT500 sounds so bad in FM it doesn't sound like a GT500 at all tbh FH was way better and way closer to real sound
FH5 sounds may not be the most realistic but they sound so much better than FM
Cuz in the end FH5 is about the gameplay and making player happy. It's not about simulating the sound. Its about perfecting the sound 😌
Forza Motorsport sounds abysmal
rankings:
apollo: fm8
valkyrie: fh5
chiron: fm8
super bee: fh5
viper: fh5
challenger: fm8
f50: fh5
488: fh5
gt: fm8
gt '16: fm8
gt500: fh5
gma: fh5
civic: fh5
essenza: fh5
lfa: fh5
mazda rotary: fh5
rx7: fh5
amg one: fh5
r34: fh5
z: fh5
huayra: fh5
carrera gt: fm8
subaru: fm8
supra: fm8
supra gr: fh5
this all really came down to which version sounded more accurate, but making one game's sounds better is more complicated than just reusing the other's sound files - in general, fm8 sounds are very computerized while fh5 sounds are very aracedey on the other hand - they are very different
All sound like the same electric mixer at different modulations.
lol carrera gt in FM sounds like LFA in FH5
Hate the fact that there's literally no low-end fequencies in the enigine sounds, which I reckon they did only to prevent it from clashing with the radio and sound fx. Such a poor choice
so clearly motorsport has deeper toned/pitched engine sounds. due to different recording equipment?
Forza Motorsport is good at making Samsung S900 Washing Machines
While FH5 is good of the goodest
4:44 This is how Porsche Carrera GT should sound in FH5.
What happened with sound in LFA? Why are they so different? In FH5 it is somehow more interesting...
Motorsport wins in terms of keeping the bass from the engine and doesn't have the white noise that makes the Horizon engines sound bitcrushed (which is still something I don't get). Horizon wins for the overall sounds, especially the way how car the cars shift
Like muffled...
should the peel p50 be added to forza motorsport?
Imo the engine sounds arent different. The audio engine is. There is a lot less reverb in Horizon and more high frequency sound, where Motorsport is very echoee and a lot of mid frequency sound.
the lfa sounds COMPLETELY different.
I didn’t think FM’s sounds were THAT off…
At this point FH is the superior game in all departments. Microsoft should hand over FM development to Play Ground Games.
Still dont like the artificial RPM twitch they add on everything. Way overused and excessive. Like the rpm shouldnt always twitch around on every linear gear change especially on manual cars. Its silly when its not even in line with the cars acceleration too
6:04 the only car that i can say.. it sounds better than horizon 5 because reminds me of the paul walkers r34 sound a bit
*hugs* May he rest in peace.
That doesn't mean it sounds realistic.
Many cars and environmental sounds sound better in Forza Motorsport. The truth is that in any game with hundreds of car models, there are more elaborate and less elaborate sounds. Both FH5 and GT7 have a lot of terrible sounding cars...
4:13 idk why i start smiling
sounds are good but this game series doesnt feel the same anymore
motorsport makes them all sound like they're in tunnels lol
Which side is more honest?
So yes the cars in FH5 are so much more realistic than the Motorsport game, Its the same company why wouldnt they use horizons sounds
Fm8 car sounds are better then fh5 ngl
Both are equally good and equally bad, why can't they just go back to the sounds they used for FM4 and FM3, cars used to sound raw but now they sound synthetic. And why is the V12 in horizon games just the same generic V12 sound slightly tweaked each time. Motorsport had better sounds i think but other then the recycled V12 sound in horizon it's still fairly good, especially the LFA, that was much better than horizon. Also horizon has some cool gear changing sounds, sometimes its unnecessary but it really works for some cars
SCV12 and Huayra R need fixing in FM23
how they both sound like roblox crazy
fh5 cars have highly compressed sound and you can tell cause all the sounds have no depth to them and all sound quite flat
very big diffrence.
Forza just isnt the same anymore Fm4 sounded RAW... Newer games are wayy to Refined to the point of not actually capturing the emotion anymore!
I still play it i have a modded 360 with 1tb i love forza Motorsport 4
why the cars look so weird in forza motorsport tho
I was thinking that, like the nissan z, for example. In Fh5, the back vent you can see is like a small hexagon shape, but in fm23, it's just a black line.
Why is PG so good with racing car sounds and not with others?
Fh5 sounds ❤❤❤❤❤❤
FH5 absolutely winning
I prefer Forza Motorsport 7 car sounds
Forza Motorsport won by 26 x 8 in my opinion
The Chiron sounds better in fh5
fh2 still reigns supreme
nah FH3 and FH5 is better, FH2 very close behind tho
@@stoje8405 FH5? seriously? that game doesn't even look better than FH2 let alone play better 💀
@@misterai5158 it does look better hun💀 it has better lighting and graphics, FH2 don't have snow, FH3 onwards does and it's better FH3 to FH5 didn't have much graphical jump but it's definitely better than FH2
FH5 lacks on city content and story creativity tho, FH3 GOATED, yet both has better sound accuracy than other FHs
@@stoje8405 at no point did i diss fh3, however i did diss fh5, and nah, fh5 looks like crap, literally do a comparison, and fh2 looks better. and who cares about snow, when the game is awful.
@@misterai5158 compare it with rl and you'll actually notice FH5 is better lol, you're just stuck with nostalgia, FH2 is one of the goats but sorry FH5 is just better, not even close
funny how the "built from the ground up" looks and sounds like ass compared to much older game. not sure how is it even possible to fuck up so badly.
Holy shit FM so bad this time
Forza Motorsport is a disgrace to car fans. Simply pathetic to deliver such an awful audio experience! We are in 2024! Developers need to step up now! COME ON!
Forza 7 and Horizon 5 have the worst sound and that F-450 dually sounded nothing like Powerstroke.🤬
I don't know why motor sport and horizon don't just share. Motorsports vehicle sounds are awful.
I preder fh5
Forza motorsport is one of the worst sounding games I've ever played, ever, the LFA is awful. Most cars sound generic and nothing like the real thing. I think they just recorded a guy in a broom closet going rrraaam rraaaaam raaaaaa
Forza Motorsport is a let down.