Resident Evil 2 Ports, Prototypes, & Oddities | Punching Weight [SSFF]
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
- Punching Weight returns to Resident Evil, this time to look at the
0:00 - Welcome to Punching Weight
0:55 - Resident Evil 2 GameBoy Advance (Prototype)
3:30 - Resident Evil 2 Tiger Game.Com
5:50 - Resident Evil 2 N64
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Punching Weight is such an incredible idea for a series, I really enjoy em. You've done RE1&2, and chance of a punching weight on RE3? Could be a nice tie-in for when RE8 releases and everyone's hyped 🙂
4:36
leons uniform says "RAD"
rad.
Rad
Just gonna say it, Punching Weight is one of the most appealing YT Gaming Show ideas I've seen. I love obscure history and trivia like this, and you guys always do a great job of packaging it all together. Keep up the good work, pals.
The GBA had so many quirky games and demos, crazy what the console could do.
So that's what, I believe, would SNES version look like. Known fact, first game in the series started on the SNES and was later moved to PSX.
Артемий Мальчук I don’t think that’s true
I wish the original Star Fox got ported, but if you want a game to scratch that itch, there's this game Star X, a game I found out about watching Metal Jesus.
@Michael Persico yeah but it was originally a remake of sweet home on the snes and even in the early stages of the playstation. So its kind of a grey area cause resident evil isnt a remake of sweet home and who knows when the idea of an original game happened in development. The idea started on the snes but resident evil started on the playstation more or less.
"I haven't forgot about the Resident Evil 2 Remake that's supposedly still happening" Thankfully neither did Capcom, rejoice boys.
That comment didn't age well
@@minepixelcraft5196 hm?
@@minepixelcraft5196 it was really good though?
But it was a re-imagining
1:44 leon is all like "haters gotta hate."
He like wat a jolly day
The way randomizer on the N64 version is that almost all healing items and ammo are swapped out by ANYTHING that falls into that category and is for that character, even the quantity of ammo. The ammo from the corpse in the hall with the first Licker? Could be a herb, or could even be a dozen magnum rounds Leon. Key items and weapon placement stays the same, and some stuff like the three green herbs outside the office and ink ribbons all stay put. Just to ensure the player isn't 100% boned.
Some kind of balancing
Item randomization is exactly what it sounds like. All non-vital items to the story are randomized. Where there was a blue herb, now there could be shotgun shells.
RE2 for GBA would have actually been quite dope actually if you ask me.
I disagree that would be stupid.
That tech demo was impressive for the gba. And it would be a good option, but they thought it was a better ideia to make for that Tiger.com thing... Yeah, talk about bad decisions...
Richter WLK as If Capcom didn't already make enough bad decisions during their rough patch. Though nowadays they do screw up every once in a while *cough* Street Fighter 5 *cough*
One interesting bit that Derek didn't mention: the N64 version also had new alternate costumes for Leon and Claire
The Dreamcast Version is actually a port of the PC version with no screen tearing and uncompressed 480p cutscenes (PS1,N64,and GC run in 240i) Higher rez and smoothed out character models. The GC version is markedly inferior, I've tried both with their respective high resolution cables (vga on DC and component for GC) GC version is a direct port of the PS1 game without the smoothed out character models of the Dreamcast and PC versions.
I was tremendously disappointed over the GC version. I expected that after all these years and ports this version surely would be the best. I had already played the PC version, but it was only borrowed and it had some compatibility issues. I thought it maybe would be even better and have even more extras, especially considering the relatively high price. But no. What a freakin' rip-off.
It's a real shame that the best versions are on obscure platforms. The DC is long dead, and good look getting the PC version to run smooth today, if you even can find it.
At least the GC version allows to skip in-game cutscenes and have all music. But to be honest, the Dreamcast's best feature is the VMU screen. That way you can know your life and ammo without accessing the inventory.
Digital foundry made me think otherwise of that
@@snetmotnosrorb3946 There's a mod that allows you to do it, but you need the Sourcenext Japanese version (or, you know, an ISO).
The Dreamcast version is really obscure, specially considering that most DC emulators can't run it since it was developed in Windows CE.
Uhm, excuse me, but what of the Dreamcast port? Both campaigns, plus the 'Extreme Battle' mini-game. Analogue controls made the characters stagger like they're drunk, but the d-pad still works fine & the memory card showed your health & ammo at all times. it was still a good version with a tiny difference or two to the Gamecube port.
I guess the Dreamcast version wasn't very impressive compared to the ports mentioned here
About the N64 RE2, careful observers will note that the same cutscene is used for the Ada/Claire encounter with Annette Birkin (the same voiceover, even if you aren't that character). That was one way they saved space. Also, I think that's the longest cutscene in the game and they may have edited it down a bit compared to the disc versions.
Having played most ports of RE2, I'd say the GameCube version has more in common with the PSOne DualShock version and the Dreamcast version is very close to the PC release. And I don't know about other people, but my Dreamcast copy is missing the gruesome death animations from other versions and has Original/Arrange modes inverted. It's as if the Dreamcast version is based off a censored Japanese release.
Holy shit.....
That GBA port is insane.
I love that RE2 64 has an official randomizer mode. Those are always a cool way to revisit a game, and I only know of a very few titles that have that as an official feature (specifically, Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night)
Have you ever heard of the Resident Evil 0 N64 prototype? It's really intresting stuff. I'll provide links to videos.
V Comparisson from prototype to HD remake: czcams.com/video/gDZBRhjy_ME/video.html
V Some gameplay footage:czcams.com/video/_dcKEHt9htA/video.html (overlayed with commentary, I haven't taken a long look at it)
The Dreamcast res 2 was a port of the Windows version and featured high res models and backgrounds as well as 60 fps.
i would be fine if all the punching weight episodes were about resident evil.
So Rockstar San Diego and Rockstar North both got their starts on the N64?
... wow :o
rockstar north actually started with lemming and uniracers, but body harvest is absolutely a tech-demo for gta 3!
Stop Skeletons From Fighting I was more so referring to Body Harvest, but yeah DMA did start far earlier than the N64 era for sure ^^;
Rockstar North (aka DMA Designs) started on British home computers like the Amiga and Atari ST.
Speaking of Lemmings, Derek you should try out The Adventures of Lomax on PS1. It's a really good delightful departure.
Every Halloween I wait for one thing, and that is your Halloween videos. I've been watching since your early years as HVGN. Every year I have this tradition where I watch, my personal opinion as your best work, Splatterhouse 1-3 and remake videos. Which I watched again today. Keep up with the great videos!
Another great episode! Thank you for taking the time to show Resident Evil some love. I enjoy all your episodes but it feels like these episodes are made for me
Gotta say that gba port is super impressive I'd probably play it if it came out
I was just streaming this tonight. it's easily my fav game of all time.
The GameCom RE2 was one that blew my mind when I heard of its existence. It’s hard to believe such a port/version was ever attempted. The N64 version is seriously impressive! Both campaigns and new content, including a randomizer mode? Crazy!
I do remember Tiger made another Resident Evil 2 game, which was a dot matrix handheld that is probably the only version of RE2 that has 2 PLAYER HEAD TO HEAD. It was basically linking two 99X units (which is what these handhelds were called) to try and clear a level faster than your friend. They also said there was exclusive content if you hooked it up to your computer... but I never did either when I owned it. Not to mention it was just the police station and sewers, with the only boss being the giant alligator.
If i wanna play RE2 on the go, i just use my PSP.
DarkThanatos18 i use ps vita
i use galaxy s4
zoiuduu you have a emulator?
David Villegas for my ps vita and psp (No)
David Villegas yes sir
GBA will always be my most favorite handheld. To have RE ports on this game, despite how slow they may have ran, would've been very cool!
Excellent video, guys!!! Always finding me new things to play!
Keep it up, love these episodes.
Great content u just got a new subscriber keep up the good work I'm hooked!
One thing about RE2 on the N64 I don’t see mentioned too often, is that the EX files not only flesh out the RE1 timeframe for new players, but one file even makes a reference to Billy, one of the protagonists for the then in-development for the N64 RE Zero, which would eventually be released for the Gamecube. So a neat little teaser for a future game
The N64 version is my favorite. I've only played the PS1 and N64 versions but the N64 version is so amazing.
Excellent video as always Derek!
Another excellent vid Derek.
holy crap -- i had forgotten all about the Game.Com .. that commercial clip was total nostalgia.. LOL
Love your vids man!
I collect Resident Evil games and more. This episode is my Favorite episode besides The Splatterhouse Reviews which shows how much you put your heart into this. Please keep up the amazing work and I can't wait to see what other content you release.
i love punching weight!!!! I need more
Good job on just *barely* getting this episode out on Halloween (at least in in West Coast and Arizona time).
Two factual errors in this
1. The PSN version of RE2 allows you to take it on the go with a PSP or Vita, so the Tiger version isn't the only portable version as indicated.
2. This version also allows you to switch discs without "leaving the couch".
...that doesn't count. That's not a portable version, but a home console version re-released on the PSP.
I'm not following you. It exists and is an option, it being a re-release is irrelevant. It's an official release and functions as a portable RE regardless of how it came to be.
Surely the context should be "portable version" not "physical release port"? Limiting the discussion to the latter doesn't give the full picture for anyone actually wanting to play this game on the go.
I think the point of the video was more about highlighting versions of Resident Evil released originally for portable consoles.
That still doesn't change the fact that the PSP version exists. I'm merely contesting what he said about the Tiger version being the only way to play RE2 "on the go". it isn't.
But yes the PSP version wouldn't necessarily count as a "port, prototype or oddity" if that's what you mean. That's not the point I was making though.
It doesn't count because the PSN version isn't a true portable version in any way, shape, or form. It's an ISO running in a PS1 emulator that the PS3, PSP, and PS Vita have built in. The Tiger version was rebuilt specifically for their console, which is why it counts as the only portable version.
And about the jumper/expansion pack for RE2 on N64?
If only those blood color options and violence options wasn't even there the port could have another cool thing instead
I always get really bummed when ur video ends. I always enjoy your videos so much
don't worry, we're always in the lab, making new ones!
Great stuff as always!
Anytime you wanna talk RE I'm ready to watch with a smile. Thanks.
In my experience most randomizer runs are basically easy mode. Cause not only are the items random but the amount of ammo you get is random as well. I'll never forget getting 68 mag bullets in one pick up, right off the bat in the police station.
Though I did have one run where I got almost exclusively red herbs. With very little ammo and only the few consistent green herbs that aren't randomized, it was actually a challenge. But seeing an item box overflowing with red herbs was worth it ha.
Very informative and creative video, nice work. In regards to the GameBoy Advance port, I spoke with Massi Di Monda of Raylight studios briefly about the creation of the demo. He said on my RE2 GBA Video "we made this in 2 weeks. i had a meeting with capcom in uk, then they send the demo to capcom japan. the response was the gba was not suitable for mature games. so we stopped at this. :) there are some other small scenes which are not playable (we released other video)" I asked about the other footage and the original Resident Evil but I never heard anything back.
Remember playing Resident Evil 2 back in 98 on the PS1. Probably played the game to death multiple times.
LOL Leon's run animation looks like he has the runs and is looking for a bathroom.
A rock solid video as usual. I'm glad to see the RE2 GBA demo on here.
If I could make a potential Punching Weight request: the games The New Addams Family Series and The Fish Files for the GBC. They're third person, almost point and click style adventure games, with some surprisingly detailed sprites at times. Also I believed they used some type of trickery to have more colors on screen then normally possible. Both games were made with some involvement from a company called 7th Sense, who appear to have made very little else.
So yeah, ambitious, weird, obscure, seems like a good fit for the show!
resident evil 2 was an instant favorite for me, i played the heck out of it and had fun talking with friends in middle school about it!!! that gba version is amazing as well!!!! thanks for this upload!!!!! I always enjoy your videos!!!!
this was awesome :D im a bit bummed that there probably isn't any interesting ports, remakes or oddities from RE3 to make a episode out of since its only note worthy qwerk is its confusing shift from side game to main entry.
The Japanese SourceNext PC Port also has both Campaigns merged into one Disc. There was another PC version internationally released by Virgin Interactive referred to as the Platinum Edition, but that one is split up in 2 Discs like the original PS1 version
You could do the mobile version of Thief 1. It's so obscure I don't even know if you can play it.
thanks for the video
I only got to play RE2 on the N64 for the first time last year and loved it. I yawned my way through RE5 on 360 and ripped the RE6 disc out of it in disgust after no more than half an hour, "enter the action horror" I muttered to myself..
OMG YAAAAASS!!! Thank you!!
this video made me finally want to borrow my brothers n64 copy of RE2 and try beating it finally.
I'll stick with the Dreamcast version thanks
Weird Mic settings on this one, Derrick (and Grace). Great video though! Halloween Heroes!
I'm surprised you didn't find this, but RE2 had a mobile game on an old slider LG phone called the LG Rumour 2.
It was rough, and it played like Gaiden with a few hard to miss differences.
I just noticed something striking about the GBA version. He has the animations of Ethan Hunt from n64 version of mission impossible. I’m sure it was a pitch by the same group.
I figured this would be you video for Halloween but I guess it's a good way to start November. I just finished playing RE2 for the first time and enjoyed it for the most part so I might pick up the N64 game. I'm always looking to add to my collection. Have you ever considered a video on Oddworld: Stanger's Wrath Darek or is that at little too well known for the show?
It could be in a video on drastically different spin-offs of game series.
Actually, there are 3 ports of Resident Evil 2 with both stories put on one disk. You have Gamecube, N64 and the SourceNext PC port of Resident evil 2 exclusive to japan, there was another port released in the US but that one had the stories are seperate exes.
Resident Evil 2 had the most and STILL has the most ports. (Ps1,N64,PC,gamecube,Tiger game.COM,Tiger 99X handheld, DreamCast.)
The N64 RE2 was my first official RE game and I played the shit out of it when I was a kid. I was so thankful to get to play RE while I was still a Nintendo fan and could only afford one console generation at a time.
And damn. I know it was just a few rooms on that Gameboy advance re2 prototype but visually it's very impressive.
Good episode,are going to touch more Doom 1 ports on punching weight?
yes!!
I praise the God my childhood wasn't spoiled by the Gamecom version of RE2. As the matter of fact, I wasn't even aware of its existence until maybe 3-4 years ago.
I forgot about the Randomizer. I really need to play that mode of the game. It's just ammo and herbs right? Or do key items move as well?
I'm still astonished that they managed to fit Resi 2 on an N64 cart!
It gave me hope that they could've fit Metal Gear Solid on an N64 cartridge (though possibly cutting out some of the codec dialogue if necessary). Unfortunately it was never to be, ah well.
The N64 port is the one I own and, while Randomizer Mode is really fun, I was bummed that it didn't have Extreme Battle mode. Also, if memory serves, that blood color setting changes the blood for your character, too. It was really odd seeing Claire bleed blue every time she got bit. Still, I'm still amazed by how they were able to get this game on an N64 cartridge at all and wish they did the same for RE3. I can only imagine Angel Studios remembered the hell it must have been getting that N64 port of RE2 to work as well as it did and made a blood vow never to do something like that again. XD
I'll leave it here as well :) www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/131556/postmortem_angel_studios_.php
Already the highlight of my halloween night!
Thank you for being someone who liked the N64 Version of RE2. I haven't beaten all 4 Scenarios ether. I was wondering if you would consider streaming RE2 N64 Randomizer on the hardest difficulty and then uploading it to the Live Channel?
"Thats Mr. Kennedy if ya Nasty" i fuckin LOL'd for 10 min xD Thank you SSFF for inspiring my channel about retro game shit. I love your content
You can play Resident Evil 2 portable on the PS Vita, that had almost all PS1 Classics released on the PS3, still works and I'm always surprised about how many forget that is a thing.
I am so surprised that you didn't mention Resident Evil 1.5
It will be hard to top Lotus Prince video.
What about the Tiger 99X version of RE2? It was a stand alone LCD game that ran on 3 AAA batteries and featured a link cable. It had a password/cheat system and the game was divided into stages; never got past stage 3 though. Pretty sure Leon was the only character you play as, but it did have the shared item chests. I never knew how the multiplayer worked on it, as I only had one, alongside the Crash Bandicoot 99X game.
5:44 Oh my god, yes.
Kind of funny how you mentioned the remake here since it’s out now 3 years later
You should do a follow up episode on RE 1.5 prototype for ps1
a video on the making of RE2 would cover the 1.5 prototype and be its own, very long video.
I would definitely watch that!
I de fWould love this.
GBA Leon is doing the Vince McMahon strut.
I don't know how true this is but the lore at the time was that Angel Studios had first approached Square about putting Final Fantasy VII on an N64 cartridge to prove it could be done but Square turned them down because after FF VII's marketing Square would have looked bad if some small American dev team could do what they couldn't. Supposedly porting RE2 was their second choice.
Only graphically may the Dreamcast version and Gamecube version may be considered the same. Since the Gamecube version is based on the Dualshock release, and doesn't have any of the difficulty modes or additional content such as being able to view concept art, renders, models, and even FMV cutscenes. The N64 versions only virtue is the technical achievement it pulled off, outside of the randomizer and the button codes, it's inferior to the later ports in all but graphical quality which is roughly the same as the PS1 versions.
I see that Tiger was inspired by RE2 when they created the Furby
Alex, can you tell me what Stop skeletons from Fighting refers to?
Nice video punch... Earn a sub..
nice. thankyou.
RE2 on the GBA is mighty impressive. Surprised you didn't discuss RE 1.5 as it was technically a prototype for 2. But that's been done to death anyways.
3:14 just based of the UI that looks more like a port of one of the Street Fighter EX games rather than Alpha 3
probably not gonna happen but i suggest doing an episode on The Bouncer. It's honestly a pretty ambitious beat em up that probably could have been launched to a higher appreciation if it had the online capabilities of the ps3
1:44 LOL My Man Bulling Zombies and Walks Like Peaky Blinders Crew 😂😂😂
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I love Resident Evil 2! I now wanna try it on the GBA!
1:38 - Leon looks like Vince McMahon walking.
Wasn't the PC version of RE2 also only one disc?
yes
I think mine certainly was on 2 discs.
the 2006 japanese only pc re release was on one dvd and even had dvd quality fmv's at full frame rate as well :)
nope, i had them in 2 disks...
Awesome
It was a curse and a blessing that Nintendo stuck with carts for the 64. We got some great games and technological marvels because of some smart coders.
RE2 for n64 is a WEE bit bigger than a 64megabit cart, lol... The 64 bits refers to the CPU's buswidth, not the space on the cartridge.
great content again. off topic but are you pumped for wild guns reloaded?
yes!! we're hoping to get a review copy before release and have a review out on day one!
Stop Skeletons From Fighting looking forward to it!
1:42 Leon S.wag Kennedy
I have both re2 gc and n64 and a demo version too, I can't get enough of re games I have all the re games on gc.