A New Tram across the THAMES? (KENEX Trams)

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
  • A brief description of a new Tram proposal to link Kent and Essex across the river Thames.
    For more details, please see the KENEX Website: kenextransit.c...

Komentáře • 45

  • @The1979gregor
    @The1979gregor Před 2 lety +18

    The estimated cost is £800M not 80m. We're talking about building a dedicated tunnel under the river!

  • @quzofrommycoke
    @quzofrommycoke Před 2 lety +28

    I feel like if a sizable part of the tram is going to be underground, why not just make it an automated metro like the DLR? Those are some long distances to be covered by a tram, but of course: any public transport is better than none. I'm happy to see this proposal!
    P.s. welcome back!

  • @thetoptrump1000
    @thetoptrump1000 Před 2 lety +3

    Glad you're back!

  • @DesperateDigger666
    @DesperateDigger666 Před 2 lety +8

    Welcome back.
    Having temped on the initial interborough planning for the now shelved Cross River Tram Project, and worked in Grays for Thurrock Council before retirement, I'll be interested to see if any progress is made on this. Thanks for the heads up.

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 Před 2 lety +2

    I live near Nottingham and that city also has a brilliant tram system!

  • @lordgemini2376
    @lordgemini2376 Před 2 lety +2

    Welcome back, we need a video on the Manchester Metrolink and it's future pal!

  • @CCA2020
    @CCA2020 Před 2 lety +2

    Omg ur back, missed you

  • @ChoobChoob
    @ChoobChoob Před 2 lety +2

    Great video format! Keep it up!

  • @raphaelnikolaus0486
    @raphaelnikolaus0486 Před 2 lety +12

    Isn't there also a Crossrail-1-extension-plan to Ebbsfleet? Could well connect with Kenex then.

    • @CCA2020
      @CCA2020 Před 2 lety +6

      Either to gravesend or ebbsfleet

    • @lodgemj1971
      @lodgemj1971 Před 2 lety +3

      The route is safeguarded but there is no definite plan. And the big issue would be the money given all the additional funding Crossrail has received and TfL’s financial position

  • @metro673
    @metro673 Před 2 lety

    Good explanation

  • @thegrowl2210
    @thegrowl2210 Před 2 lety +3

    HE'S BAAAACK!!!

  • @mikehebdentrains
    @mikehebdentrains Před 2 lety

    The Lower Thames Crossing is in progress as well now - so if Kenex arrives it could also serve people arriving in the Chadwell St Mary / Orsett area via the new road links.

  • @luisstransport
    @luisstransport Před 2 lety +2

    Great video

  • @DrMJT
    @DrMJT Před 2 lety +2

    It would be logical to have the route that terminates at Ebbsfleet Int'l Station, carry on with a stop or two in Ebbsfleet Garden Village, Bluewater, Darneth Valley Hospital, and in to Dartford Town Centre and station.
    BRT's are rarely successful as they have to 'wait' in traffic. The BRT+ (has own pathways) might as well have rails to be a proper tram.
    On the Kent side, it is obviously missing an Ebbsfleet station to the south to connect with stations on the other Kent Railway Lines... Longfield, Brands Hatch. To the West along the Thames... the housing developments of Greenhithe (Ingress Park) and Stone to Dartford - have a BRT pathway but could benefit from it being upgraded to Tram.

  • @fToo
    @fToo Před 2 lety +13

    £80m seriously? For a sunken tram tunnel. On what planet?!

  • @Andrewjg_89
    @Andrewjg_89 Před 2 lety +1

    I would see a new tram or light rail system to be built for Essex and Kent via over or under the River Thames. And I think it would make journeys between Essex and Kent much quicker.
    There has also been plans for a tram or light rail system in Hampshire that could happen that would go from Fareham to Portsmouth via Gosport and to Lee-on-the-Solent. And to replace the ferry between Gosport and Portsmouth.

  • @malcolmsmith4603
    @malcolmsmith4603 Před 2 lety +1

    extension to Basildon would make sense

  • @davidbull7210
    @davidbull7210 Před 2 lety +12

    Destined to become two mini buses that stop at the river to be met by a choleratic ferryman

  • @matthehat
    @matthehat Před 2 lety +5

    Yay, more transport investment in the South East while the North East gets to replace our 40 year old trains with 30 year old trains.

  • @transporter4060
    @transporter4060 Před 2 lety +1

    Trams = 💓👍💓👍💓👍💓👍

  • @eastlancsesteem
    @eastlancsesteem Před 2 lety +1

    REALLY???! 😲 YES PLEASE!!! 🙏🏾

  • @hypercomms2001
    @hypercomms2001 Před 2 lety

    I come from Melbourne... trams are fantastic... yet it would great to be able to connect to Tramlink...

  • @stickynorth
    @stickynorth Před 2 lety +1

    Even at $800M GBP it's still worth it... As long as it's a rail-based solution I'm generally for it, even if I'm not a total fan of low-floor trams especially when compared to high floor LRT/Pre-Metro...

  • @trainman305team
    @trainman305team Před 2 lety

    Nice 👍🏾 interesting

  • @timbounds7190
    @timbounds7190 Před 2 lety +1

    Can't see it happening - too much money! Also, in Essex at least, it more or less follows existing heavy rail routes, albeit with more stops, so maybe you could just build the tunnel and run trains rather than trams through it, connecting the C2C and Kent networks.

  • @physiocrat7143
    @physiocrat7143 Před 2 lety

    Not sure about this one. Wouldn't it make more sense to link the North Kent to Romford lines?

  • @lucatemperapeperoniconpann1810

    Can you do Cagliari CTM Expanison

  • @iman2341
    @iman2341 Před 2 lety +1

    £80m? Is that a typo? Not a chance you’d even get half the dann tunnel for that…

  • @chollocks
    @chollocks Před 2 lety +2

    It's not possible to build that tunnel for £80m

  • @jasbindersidhu
    @jasbindersidhu Před 2 lety +2

    Never mind the East

  • @patrickr7668
    @patrickr7668 Před 2 lety +1

    I think you mean £800m, not £80m

  • @BJHolloway1
    @BJHolloway1 Před 2 lety +1

    Don't hold your breath re Freeports. The UK had these up until 2012 when they were abandoned because they were a failure.

  • @Richbrick48
    @Richbrick48 Před 2 lety

    Tram on Canvey lol

  • @itsthatsebguy93
    @itsthatsebguy93 Před 2 lety +1

    Seems like a good idea, will probably never happen.

  • @stateofflux7453
    @stateofflux7453 Před 2 lety

    Why do people live in these areas just past the outskirts of London anyway?🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @decam5329
    @decam5329 Před 2 lety +1

    If you are looking for a tram disaster, look no further than Edinburgh.

    • @dancedecker
      @dancedecker Před 2 lety

      Sorry, not so.
      At first maybe, but that was mostly due to a disagreement between two of the construction parties, which was resolved.
      It has now had an extension to Newhaven approved and this is due to open next year, with others being considered, so I think the word "disaster" is a little dramatic and also basically a tad undeserved.
      Should lessons be learnt from it, certainly and they have, but it is now a well run, efficient, popular and viable system that is a credit to the Scottish capital.
      So fingers crossed, the south east might get a similar system and each one that opens has, so far without fail, benefitted very well, the area, the economy and the environment.
      (The only negative point I might make is that, whilst as I say, any new tram system that we get, can only really be a good thing, perhaps the south east is already a little over provided for on the public transport infrastructure front.)

    • @decam5329
      @decam5329 Před 2 lety

      @@dancedecker the network that exists is fine and well run, but the near neverending roadworks - Leith Walk, for example, is s blight that seems to have no end in sight.
      However the residents of Granton Harbor will have a fine run out to the airport.

    • @dancedecker
      @dancedecker Před 2 lety +1

      @@decam5329 Okay. Well not being local, I admit that I cannot argue those points. But just saying "disaster" I thought was being solely aimed at the early disagreements and delays they inevitably caused which I freely admit were not ideal and we're much publicised. So I thought I'd put those arguments, whilst valid,into some context.
      It's just that obviously I support all the current actual or proposed systems, as they all seem, at least on the surface, to be beneficial to their area to some greater or lesser degree.
      But if you determine a "disaster" to mean the amount of roadworks a tramway causes, then maybe it is one.
      But to me at least, a "disaster " means it isn't successful, has little or no patronage and has no chance of either being extended or continuing to operate at all.
      Something the Edinburgh system is a long way from being, it would seem. It is successful, popular, viable and is being extended.
      But excessive roadworks if due solely to the tramway, are admittedly a nuisance, so I'm only sorry that these blight the system's otherwise successful benefits.
      So thank you for your kind information.

  • @DavidWilliams-km5xu
    @DavidWilliams-km5xu Před 2 lety

    Trams in city's and town's are way forward.

  • @Marcus51090
    @Marcus51090 Před 2 lety +1

    Never going to happen