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I tried to become more involved in the Autism community on Instagram and INSTANTLY got shot down with a barrage of abuse...from accounts of people with Autism.
Hopefully, I just found a couple of bad eggs, but it does beg the question of the difficulties of people with Autism who want to become 'influencers', should they have inflexibility of thought. Which is clearly who I discovered.
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Such a good topic to talk about, especially these days... Open debate is needed as well as not taking things so personal
Open debate is definitely needed. Autism needs to be understood, and the only way to get there is to learn along the way, and be willing to be wrong and need to re-adjust. Being shouted at isn't exactly the best way to get people on board...even if you're right with what you're saying!
And I thought we autistics were supposed to be the logical ones! I'm in my forties so I hear ya about the warriors...it's frustrating enough to communicate in a way that people would understand without taking what we say the wrong way and jump down our throat. You'd think other people on the spectrum would understand this 😕 ugh...kids...anyway, I'm really loving your channel...your dry sense of humor makes my day 😆 keep up the good work, I think you're valuable to the community! A good voice of reason 😊
Thanks for the comment, really appreciate it. I can't take a compliment in everyday life, but I'm trying online...baby steps!
I thought that too. Maybe it's as I suspect and personality disorders are being misdiagnosed as autism because there's insurance money in that diagnosis.
@echofoxtrot2.051 Comorbid PDs are a dime a dozen, at least online! I get cussed out for not pretending to be woke!
😂 Oh, my! I have struggled with this behavior over the years, and it's just gotten worse and worse. These "shut up, I'm an ally, and I know what you need" crowd are almost as bad as the openly genocidal ones. I wish more people would focus on educating themselves and setting a good example of how to treat others than trying to force the thing they learned yesterday down everyone else's throat.
Everyone has the right to their opinion, but the idea that all opinions are equal is nonsense. Those who think that the loudest voice, biggest crowd, or most threatening presentation means they're right are quite dangerous. Calm, reasoned discourse only works with those who have actually thought about a subject, though. If someone hasn't, and they just adopted the position of others to fit in, they will feel threatened by your effort to actually debate and become more abusive.
Thanks for talking about your experience with this. I really enjoy your viewpoint and how you present it like just chatting with friends.
Haha, thanks. I am chatting with friends, and unlike real life...I can't be interrupted, so I can get a word in 😂
Opinions are fine, you just need to not be offended if someone disagrees! Sports teams are a good example, you can argue all day why your team is 'better', but it's personal choice. Winning all the cups might be one persons perspective, whereas someone else might prefer their ethics, the kit, the players, the manager etc.
I belive chocolate is nicer once it's been in the fridge, not a lot of people agree...thats fine! I won't lose sleep over someone disagreeing.
The colour of the infinity symbol represents the spectrum of autism like the colour spectrum and the infinity symbol represents the spectrum of autism is infinite (not like the colour spectrum)I think. I feel like the puzzle piece fits me better and makes more sense for me.
Thanks for the explanation. I think I'm now more confused as where I originally noticed it was on a page that was saying 'Autism is one', and were angry that people try to label where they identify on the spectrum. Now I learn that the whole symbol is based on acknowledging it is infinitely different. I think I need a lie down!!
Stay authentic. I’m late diagnosed ASC and there is room at the table for multiple views.
There sure is. Plenty of room to agree to disagree if need be, not shame people to dare to be different 👍🏻
The saddest thing is, EVERY single, group/community/interest has this level of dogmatic perspective (of the interest) within it. IDC if it's motorcycles, autism, politics, heck, even self-help, the deeper you go, the closer you get to the dogmatic types within it trying to gatekeep or control the narrative of the thing and being so stalwart against other ideas or opinions.
Instead of yanno, having discussions about stuff like we used to.
I no longer get so deep into a topic that I try to connect with its "communities" anymore.
I tried, failed, didn't go back. In fact, I've never been spoken to as rudely or as aggressively by non Autistic people as I have when I've demonstrated a different mindset in the presence of other Autistic people.
So now I avoid them and leave them to their blinkered view.
@@AdultwithAutism yeah, same here. So many of my interests were ruined (or almost ruined) by nasty people in the communities that in order to enjoy and be happy in the subject I've had to be very sheltered till I found people that relate to it openly.
I really enjoyed this. Your right, sometimes we can find ourselves not truely thinkung as individuals. Without that, where is room for growth if we automatically hate any thing that represents a viewpoint different than our own. Thank you. I needed that reminder!
No worries. We all do sometimes. Very easy to get caught up with everything thrown at us!
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Hello Paul, greetings from New York, USA! I have been binge watching your videos for the past two weeks and this video is exceptionally accurate. There is so much hate and discord on the Internet that it is almost not worth having those social media accounts.
Closing your accounts was a great idea; it prioritizes and protects your mental health, plus it prevents your account from being compromised.
I still have several videos to go, but I am watching all of them - they are excellent! Thank you for everything you do. I cannot wait to watch the next one.
Thanks for your kind words Rebecca, always mean a lot. Glad you like the videos too.
I just try to be honest where its needed 👍🏻
Hi Paul, another great video! These days rainbows and unicorns can become political! I agree with you about the high functioning aspect in certain situations. When I go to the market, or mall, or any place with lots of people by myself I need to stim. I typically use a classic fidget spinner but if it becomes needed I will hand flap a bit to get through it. People often ask what I am doing and I say I am autistic and need to do this because shopping can be difficult. Sometimes they start talking like I am a three year old. So by adding the additional clarification that I am high functioning lets them know they can talk to me normal. I am not elevating myself to some higher level. I am trying to communicate! I have a deficit in communication so helping people communicate with me is paramount. I also agree with you that the puzzle piece makes perfect sense to me. The rainbow infinity symbol not so much. As for the evil Autism Speaks, I agree they are evil. I have been living with autism for 61 years, but only recently learned what my condition was called. So, like you I am learning. I don’t like being bullied when I ask a legitimate question or question an opinion about a certain situation. It is weird that autistic people are bullying autistic people. Bullying is a common thing in the early years of autistic people, me included! I stick with people like Dan in the Aspie World and people like him who are positive and engaging and open to expression. And of course you. You are very clear in thought and intention and open to many things. We are very different people yet kindred spirits in the way we think. Can’t wait for you next video! I am glad you are feeling relaxed😀
Hi Bryan! Hope you're keeping well. Sounds like you are applying common sense there...how very dare you indeed!! You use a fidget spinner, I have a pen (might even see it in my hand in some videos). There is a difference right away, but I won't bash you over the head for it. I agree, it's very weird that when you reach out to learn or gain clarification, you get bashed for it...or that you do something that helps you help others know more about you in a comfortable way. You're not doing it to belittle anyone, it's for you in that situation you find yourself in.
I think my next video will be about 'The Cure for Autism', as I didn't even know people try this, and I find it...hilarious.
Just discovered your channel, and I'm really enjoying your videos. I am 63 and was just diagnosed this year as being on the spectrum. It explains a whole lot of my life experiences, and I'm happier than I have been in a very long time. I'm still awkward, and I still have 10M questions in my head (and out my mouth) ALL THE TIME, and I still feel like I don't fit in anywhere, and like I'm on the outside of everything looking in, but it's all right, because now I know there's a reason why I'm this way. ❤
Welcome aboard!
I’m new to autism and neurodiversity even though I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD for over ten years now. I’m sure I’m autistic too but I’m yet to be diagnosed. I know I would qualify for the old Asperger’s diagnosis today if I was to be assessed.
As for autism, I can’t find any community where I can fit in. The Rainbow Mafia are the most vocal and aggressive if you don’t agree with their world view. I work with autistic teens and adults and I’m yet to meet anyone in the real world that is as hostile as those online in the autistic community. If there is such a thing as the autistic community. We’re so different and yet so alike in so many ways.
This is why I like watching your videos. You think independently and have critical thinking skills. And I can relate to you, fella.
I'm borrowing Rainbow Mafia...and you're right. Many demand tolerance and acceptance...whilst not being tolerant or accepting. Doesn't work that way for me.
My motives and intentions are often misread. I come off cold. How have you dealt with gossip and not care if you’re not understood!? It’s as if some think we aren’t enough? They don’t know our struggles yet they pass judgement? And this doesn’t help me want to share this part of myself to many. The stigma and ignorance would it be worth the price? I’m so done trying to fit into society! It’s as if they are trying to change us and we have control over our DNA? We aren’t broken! We just don’t desire the same things that others seem to put so much worth on. I’ve made mistakes all the time. I’ve allowed things into my life but setting boundaries. It’s exhausting to try and fit in! Be genuine. And why do people think all people who are on the spectrum are all the same?! We are individuals and more than just our diagnosis! I’m slowly gaining the courage like you have found! We all get to where we are on our own time and in our own ways! One day I hope I can show others they aren’t broken and help break the stigma! Thank you for helping people like me. It’s still so new. 🙏🏻❤️
Youre more than welcome. Like you, I welcome the differences. We are not all the same, and I cannot see a benefit to assume we are.
I know of two other people in my extended network who have Autism. One of them in a gardener, knows every plant, and its all he talks about. The other is consumed and is fixated on water temperature and shower pressure. If that isn't correct for him, there isn't another conversation to have and he won't respond to anything else.
Then there is me...not interested in gardening in the slightest, and a shower not at the optimum temperature or pressure just wouldn't upset me 1%. But I acknowledge that it's a concern for them and wouldn't undersell it. I try to offer solutions regarding the shower, and listen to the gardening stories because...why not?
It's okay to be different, what isn't okay is trying to make people feel bad for it 👍🏻
Hi Paul! Great video as always. I always find your videos so interesting because, as you say, it's another perspective.
About the Instagram description thing: As you said, they didn't put a voice memo, but people who may have a visual impairment might have a 'screen reader' (but it cant 'read' an image so the poster will write it int he description instead). I see a lot of 'image descriptions' used on tumblr, especially on meme posts and things, so that people get a better idea of whats happening.
About the puzzle piece (sorry if you already know this): When I first came across it, like you, i understood it. It wasn't something i necessarily found offensive or rude. I think the reason so many autistic people do take issue with it is because of specific hate groups that use it as their logo (?). So Autism Speaks, which is an american "charity", has listed their priorities to -cure autism -find the cause of autism -research into screening for autism in unborn babies to potentially get them aborted. They are, essentially, an anti-autism hate group parading as a charity. The logo for this company is a blue jigsaw puzzle piece, and i think that's why a fair few people choose not to identify with the logo/icon.
Generally I dont see why the reaction to curiosity, particularly in a community that's meant to encourage knowledge about under researched things, is so hateful. I think it's farr too easy for people to forget that some people go on the internet to genuinely learn, they involve themselves in conversation to overcome previous ignorance, btu are immediately shut down as though they can never change.
About functioning things: When i got diagnosed the doctor said i had 'very mild autism' which i found really funny because i would crumple to teh floor and be unable to move or speak if the seating plan was different, in my alevel classes. But I don't want to bombard you with my opinions of neurotypicals passing judgement on things they, by definition, can't understand.
Sorry this comment was so long! Have a good one!
Your comment was great! I learnt a lot from it so I appreciate it. Its also exactly how responses should be when someone like me doesn't understand and is after a bit of clarity. I never knew of the reader, but now it makes perfect sense.
Pretty sure my next video will be about curing Autism, as I find the concept utterly hilarious.
Hope you and your 'mild Autism' are doing well 👍🏻
Thank you for your videos. I’ve watched a lot of different CZcamsrs on this topic but yours is the only one I subscribed to. I’ve seen some “group think” enforcers. No one needs that. Some of the CZcamsrs are very young, very dependent on flashy editing, and very dependent on acting cute. Substance and useful food for thought will prevail in the end. Wanting to be help is a great goal. Thanks again.
Thanks Catherine. Group think isn't something I can subscribe to either. I don't mind being wrong, it's how I learn...I just don't think attacking people for wanting to understand or gain clarification is very pragmatic!
It seems to me, too, that most of the people with autism channels on CZcams do possess the group think mentality and claim variously to be authorities on the subject.
True, IG is definitely the toxic spot for me. A positive culture on freedom of thought isn't welcome on there. I feel like the odd one out when I read posts just because I won't give in to persuasive language.
I’ve really been enjoying your comments and perspective. I like that you do your own thing your way - keep it up :)
Thank you Claire, I appreciate that.
I agree with you Paul! This is my way of thinking and perspective on this subject and with all other things in life. Great video 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing content mate! I have been binge watching your stuff lately.
Thank you
I just listened to this podcast, im 35 and going through the process of diagnosis. Ive been watching a lot of content recently to do with autism in adults and I started to notice certain themes keep coming up and it feels like if you don't share that exact point of view or experience you dont belong in 'the community' glad you spoke about this.
Yep. They confuse the word 'cult' for community 👍🏻
The jigsaw symbol has become associated with organisations and ideology which views being autistic as being a problem rather than how autistic people are mistreated and misunderstood. Ie ableism. It's good to learn new ideas and words.
Absolutely agree, it is good to learn about new ideas/words. Just as it is good to ensure that even Autistic people who choose not to follow the narrative of others still have a voice.
Just a visual graphic, the jigsaw symbol makes a lot more sense to me on a personal level 👍
I know this video is old but I'm Glad I found another bearded male Autistic person on CZcams
Glad you're here 👍🏻
Thanks for this convo.
You articulated so many of my thoughts on these topics.
Ppl don’t WANT to get our (anyone’s not just ASD) view, we aren’t out to stir, we are just thinking about the world out loud in an earnest way n space.
I like just talking to people to find out.
People explode and implode over that.
I agree. We just want to be part of a conversation in a part of life we're a part of, with all points considered 👍🏻
I put this vodeo off for a while because I knew it would challenge my preconceptions - and now my head hurts 😋
After, I appreciate your perspectives and much of what you say resonnates with me.
thanks
Haha, my head hurts everyday! 👍🏻
OK I watched this, and I had to laugh 5 min in, when you talked about whipping your bum, because I feel like that is where I am at life, and honestly this vid was so level headed and fresh. A lot of stuff out on internet is way more intense than in needs to be for sure.
Haha, I don't even know what I said now...but sounds like me 😂
Hey Paul thanks so much for doing this topic, you explain it so much better than I could ever do it. I find you so easy to understand and all your experiences are valid do not let the keyboard warriors get to you. I have been attacked to on my channel. I create autism content too.
Hi Gemma. It's a crazy world out there...its the irony that I find funny. They claim to be all accepting, until you disagree or have a different view. Then it goes off! I'll give your channel a watch when I'm finally back home. Thanks.
Picture descriptions are for the blind… many blind people have programs or whatever that read off the words…
Thanks Kael.
I've seen people attacked and banned on discord. Someone new joins the server, they ask a few questions or make a few comments. Their comments are met with slight hostility. They defend their comments and it just escalates back and forth. Others see someone already known in the community fighting a new user and they join the attack on the new user. He gets reported as a troll to the mods and they ban him. From my perspective he wasn't looking for or causing any trouble. Yes he made some rude comments later but that was only after he was met hostility and things escalated. I saw no reason for the initial hostility other than he just said something someone didn't like, which it probably was just misinterpreted, and he got attacked for it. Of course he is going to try to defend his comments especially when they are misinterpreted.
Indeed. We are allowed our own opinions, nothing wrong with that at all. My experience in Autism Communities has been that there is a collective who share an opinion, and they tell you that you're wrong for not sharing their mindset. We should be able to agree to disagree on opinions, as it's just like who is the best sports team. No one is right, especially when it comes to how to refer to terminology in Autism 👍🏼
You are a wonderful person!!! 🥰 I tried FB for two weeks, I absolutely hate it. I did twitter( and yes I know about what elon did) for a while and enjoyed some things about it, but its not made to participate in if you are using a PC which caused some very annoying things about it for me, so I stopped doing that site. I agree 100% with what you said in this video. The only thing I don't like about it, is that it took so long for the YT algorithm to put your channel in my feed and recommendation section. Well. I'm here now, so that's what counts. Thanks for the warning that I just might be a black sheep of the autistic world too. Life is an adventure, so bring it on.
Haha, CZcams keeps me hidden 👍🏻
I don't like the infinity symbol as well. I personally like the puzzle piece, and I have it tattooed. My son, and I are both Autistic. He loves my tattoo, and I do too. I love your content. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for your comment, much appreciated 👍🏻
Well done!!!❤️
Thanks 👍🏻
I find this to be how the younger generations act on social media
A lot of people today spend their time being critical of others, but doing nothing to show they can do any better unfortunately 👍🏻
Punching me in the junk! 😂 I love this channel. You are awesome! 😊
Thank you 😁
I think you really could have a career as a comedian, very humourous insights into the weirdness
My stand up career was ruined by all the waiting around to go on stage and being forced to socialise with other comics 😂
I like watching your honest and open chats without all the bangs and whistles. I studied graphic design and briefly worked in that industry many moons ago, and it’s not necessary to have text and pictures overlaying everything. I actually find it distracting at times, especially when there’s errors or sharp audio inserted. I got burnt by a keyboard warrior once too. It ain’t nice, but yeah you are correct, it’s their issue, not you.
Autism is Autism. Flags, colours, the bells and whistles...all by design. And it isn't mine, so it's all avoided and I live with my Autism in mind. The problem is, because I am not interested in it, the grumps come out and tell how you're 'hurting' them. Odd!
In many respects, inflexibility of thought is a generalised catch-phrase often denoting a dogmatic representation of the touted ideas of so-called authorities and the mindless zombies of whom blindly accept the perspective. In other words, it is right only because it's generally accepted to be so, and it is imposed onto us with an iron fist by those authoritative figures. They are as, or far more so, inflexible in their conceptual viewpoint as they like to accuse others of being.
Can't argue with that. It gets tiring of being told I'm wrong by other Autistix people for not sharing their opinions. Then get attacked because I'm allowed my own. Funny old world!
High functioning is for sometimes...other times you cant answer a knock at the door...its not understood that this is the spectrum...all of us Aspies vary in function depending on the amount of stress present...in my opinion
Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't open the door. If I'm the 'can't' category, then I can't order food either. So will have no evening food due to it if there is nothing in the fridge. When im spent, it costs everything 👍🏻
Remember The Royals?...Went to the bakers, bought a siced loaf...i still laugh when i think of that line...you can be SuperNormal
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I think your videos are perfect. Simple and easy to understand. I appreciate your not trying to sell yourself. I don't get it. Like people just need to be themselves and if people like great but you don't need to be a spaz... 😅just my opinion.
I don't really care what represents Autism. And I don't care what they call me. I'm just not like other people. Whatever. But if it makes sense to say high functioning just do it.
Yup. Autism is an individual difference, so treat it as such. The people who try to gatekeep are the ones who cause 'harm' 👍🏻
Margerine melting with hair.....just as well I don't eat science experiments anyway!🤢🤣🤣🤣
Haha 👍🏻
I am surprised that autistic persons would be attacking another in keyboard comments. I am sorry that happened to you. I am watching this 2 years down the track and hope things have changed for the better. The few autistic vloggers and Facebook groups I have found seem to have very kind and helpful comments. We should be supporting each other, not belittling or brainwashing. We really do need to work together to educate the wider community: a monumental task. There are so many outdated descriptions like high functioning or even Aspergers, but a lot of people have some point of relevance to them, so it’s not a crime to refer to these terms, if only to say that it used to be called this.
It hasn't changed, if anything it is a lot worse. Im still not a part of a single community out there because of it.
Labels like high functioning and Aspergers gets Autistic people heavily attacked...the problem is, a lot of these people were diagnosed with these terms and are a lot older now. Then they're shouted at by people more than half their age, demanding them to change instantaneously. That won't work, and this is something the 'demanders' need to learn.
It's an individual difference, and the world is tough enough without this in-fighting. 👍🏻
Hey just found your page. My LO is autistic and I would definitely and do call her high functioning, doesn't mean she's better than her classmate who is autistic and non verbal. It's just my way of describing her level of autism. Ppl are too touchy these days it drives me mad.
I'm with you there. It's a tough world to navigate at the best of times, and it's made harder by people trying to gatekeep Autism. We're not being difficult for not following the narrative that's forced on us, we're just using our opinion. If people use or don't use HFA, it doesn't affect anything. But if it helps them express themselves better, then I'm all for it 👍🏻
I went off Twitter for the same reasons. Good riddance to it.
I avoid Instagram like the plague.
I have web-friends in less developed countries, like Egypt and India. Reading and seeing what they have to deal with gives me a surer sense of perspective about those ridiculous keyboard warriors who take 'woke' to Monty Pythonesque extremes. Exactly the same with the LGBTIAQ crew. I will not put pronouns in my signature block at work because it is simply not true that it matters to any degree to me which pronouns people use when addressing or referring to me. If someone chose to refer to me as They or She, instead of he/him its not going to make my beard and dick suddenly disappear. I'm not going to feel devastated or insulted, not least because as a gay man I have always had a certain degree of gender nonconformity anyway. If some other people are pathologically insecure and require constant 360-degree social validation of their assumed, boutique gender, that's squarely their problem - not mine.
I have read quite a number of people coming to the conclusion that you did about Facebook, including professional journalists, but the truth is, it is exceptionally flexible; its all down to the choices you yourself make. I have liked lots of science news outlets, and The Guardian, and a variety of pages devoted to special interests, and surprise surprise, that's what comes into my feed. Stuff I do want to read. I only have a small number of FB "friends" (haha), and I never bother to respond in any way to any of their postings, and so over time 'the algorithm' realises I am not interested and doesn't present me with any of the mundane personal posts from them. It is actually pointless me having any FB "friends" at all, since I never look at their stuff and I never make a single post myself.
Similarly, with Twitter (I ignore the petulant gestures of the Uber-jerk who now owns it) I know its largely a viper's pit, but I use it solely as a customisable porn stream. I never even see the vitriol, the sniping. A point worth making here, as this is an autism channel, is that some people (like me), despite having a normal (or even high) sexual libido, are most definitely NOT interested or willing to be sexually involved with any other human on this planet. Pixels on a screen - yes; all good and fine. Germ-ridden, sweaty, odorous human bodies - NO.
Good to hear your facial hair and genitalia doesn't fall off. I'm the same as you in that respect, I've been addressed as Paula a thousand times in emails, it's not something I run to HR about. It's work, it isn't personal...so they don't get to know personal things about me unless I share them. They won't be pulled out of me to appease others.
@@AdultwithAutism I once accidentally mis-gendered a man who emailed me at work about an impending class-action legal case against the government (of New Zealand, where I lived at the time) that his organisation was banding my company in on by default; I wrote back "Madam; hold your horses!" . His name was Francis, and I overlooked the subtle difference in spelling (Frances for a female), When I finally met him, at a government convention centre in Wellington, he proved to be a huge, barrel-chested, bearded, bass-voiced Big Daddy; I could not have been more wrong. He took it in good humour.
@zxbn4566 it's always the big grizzly types who can take a joke. Glad he was alright about it 👍🏻
Hey, slightly late to the party here, and I've been enjoying your videos and directness, but this while I'm not one to preach, this one jarred me slightly. The puzzle piece motif has been rejected by many autistic people as it was widely used for many years by Autism Speaks , an American company. It's problematic in that Autism Speaks advocates for the Autism 'cures', and is a money-making organisation tha profits by securing funding from sponsors under the guise of supporting the families of autistic people through the use of / promotion of ABA (Applied Behavioural Analysis), which can be essentially viewed as a non-consensual conversion therapy to encourage autistic people (mainly young children) to 'appear' more normal. ABA and Autism Speaks have many supporters, many of whom seek to profit from it. In both the U.S. and U.K. the puzzle piece motif is inextricably associated with Autism Speaks and ABA, and has become a signifier of the traumatic abuse and longstanding disregard of the rights of autistic people. It's fair to say that for perhaps not all, but many in the autistic community prefer the infinity/ neurodiversity symbol for it's message of inclusivity, as opposed to the puzzle piece's message of misplaced exclusion. ABA was 'masterminded' by Ivor Lovaas, the same person who decided that conversion therapy for gay people was useful, so not a good dude in general, IMHO.
Anyway, we're all here to learn, just wanted to highlight some of the recent history that might have led to the backlash you received. Written with the best intentions and wishes.
Absolutely. But please remember what I said...it was about the images. I fully appreciate how what they're connected to can bother people. My point is one of complete simplicity...given the choice of JUST the imagery, I'd choose the puzzle piece every time because I cannot understand the rainbow infinity symbol without it being explained to me. The politics are not a part of the choice of image when I spoke about this 👍🏻