SnowPiercer (2013) MOVIE REACTION! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!
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- čas přidán 30. 01. 2022
- Hello and Welcome back to Cinema Rules! we are getting very much into our Sci-Fi playlist and today we are excited to see some more work from Bong Joon Ho (Parasite Director). We've heard a lot of great things about Snowpiercer, lets hope it lives up to the hype
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This movie is so underrated when it came out. After parasyte, I'm glad people are looking more at bong-joon ho work and this film started getting recognition. I didn't know this was based on a French sci fi graphic novel.
My favorite part about this movie is the “Steampunk” feet it has to it. I really wish we had more steampunk movies to watch. We have Cyberpunk movies but steampunk never gets its respect
This movie wasn't underrated at all a bunch of people loved it. Was the movie everybody said people had to see. Why are people rewriting history like this?
I agree..................... But did they HAVE TO cast Ed Harris for the big reveal at the end???? lmao
Literally ANY other actor would have been better.............
@@YodatheHobbit Calm your tits, nobody is "rewriting history". It´s just commonly known, that not that many people know about this movie. Just because EVERYONE who saw this movie said "Oh, you MUST SEE this one!", doesn´t automatically mean, that a lot of people DID see it eventually! Critically acclaimed doesn´t always mean popular and vice versa......
parasyte is the anime
Fun (not really) fact:
Apparently, in the scene where they look into the machine and see the roaches being ground up into food, they weren't originally supposed to be roaches. It was originally supposed to be the feces of the rich. The people at the back of the train were supposed to be literally fed rich people's shit. But they were told they had to change it to something a little less revolting for audiences, so they switched to roaches. You can actually see if you look closely and pause that the stuff in the fact looks kind of like shit and they just added some digitized roaches on top to cover it up in post.
You think that's Sci fi ? ....what do you think is being planned for humanity right now? Yes it does include eating shit and drinking piss...just look what Bill gates said about this.
That makes so much more sense. I was thinking “why is he so horrified about bugs when he’s literally said he knows what babies taste like?”
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That makes so much more sense in the context of the scene. I remember thinking why are they so freaked I'd rather eat bugs than humans
that makes no sense tho, like shit has very low nutritious value since ... you know ... the whole point in digestion is taking everything good out of the food 😅
This movie is incredible. This is Chris Evans’s best performance to date in my opinion, the monologue towards the end about how he knows what people taste like is unforgettable.👍
@Lion Hunter I agree, Sunshine is a criminally underrated film…..love Danny Boyle.
Definitely his best role
I love this movie, the monologue from Chris Evan's during that one scene broke me😭
This movie was an unexpected joy.
Tilda Swinton is good in everything.
Yeah she's brilliant. Imo she's the best along with Catt Blanchett and Toni Collette. But Swinton is one of my favorites
"How did she survive that?" well if you look at the scene before the explosion, both nam-goong and curtis hugged the girl and the child front and back as if to shield them.
I never realised that people didn't necessarily love the ending, I think it's perfect (and actually more radically hopeful than a traditional happy ending) ; Curtis refusing to perpetuate the system and sacrificing his life to give an actual chance to the future generation was the right choice.
Perfect ending
I love but hate the ending at the same time. Like I love Curtis sacrificing himself it’s just they’re like “wow life can live out here now” but the only humans left is a 17 year old girl and like a 5 year old
I literally refer to this movie as "That movie where Captain America eats babies." It really confuses people.
I bought this recently to watch it for a 2nd time, love it 9/10
Also, the reveal of why Chris Evans character feels he's not worthy to lead his people, hearing his history on the train made my jaw hit the floor... Dark, HEAVY and heart breaking stuff 😲😢
I love Tilda Swinton's performance in this film.
She's such a great actress!
Dunno if I missed it but the korean guy with the daughter is the dad from Parasite. That actor and the daughter are also in Bong's monster movie The Host.
Oh really!? Surprised I didn’t recognise him, he was brilliant in parasite
You should check out more of Bong-Joon Ho's other works! The Host and Memories of Murder are great picks!
The Hossssst, yes!
Memories of Murder is a classic.
@Miles Doyle you are weird as hell
"That's what they've been eating!"
Just remember that scene the next time you see an article about how eating insects this going to be the next big thing/way to tackle climate change.
PS - Yes, the polar bear at the end would be looking for a way to get to them & eat them. So it's really not a happy ending.
I remember renting this when it came out and recieving this incredibly deep sadness and confusion, but also a vague "that sounds about right for us as a species" there, too. One or two misguided assholes can make everything miserable for a lot of people. Thanks for covering and talking about it. It's nice to get some latent validation to what I felt back then. This one just makes me so depressed.
@nateman10 you had doubts about a reply?
i think your ratings are definitely fair! it's an interesting film because i think it's not the BEST dystopian story and it's a bit heavy-handed, yet somehow the imagery and ideas REALLY stick with me and horrify me more than other films. like i wouldn't give this film a 10/10, maybe an 8, but it's still just so iconic to me for its uniqueness
Saying an allegory is heavyhanded is redundant lol. It's not a valid criticism. It would be like saying "wow they chose the tortoise to represent slow and steady and the hare to represent quickness? Bit heavyhanded."
I agree this movie is very unique and thats what I like about it.
The part that most people miss in this film is that most of the people in the tail of a train were never suppose to be there. They stormed the train, the rich helped finance the train being made when they saw that the chemical would destroy the world, they prepared for when the “Global warming nuts” killed everyone. So, when they forced their way on there was not food for them. They had to come up with a way to let them survive, so they grew a food source for the poor to eat. But not till the numbers were low enough to sustain them, which is why all the time passed at the start with no food or water.
@Miles Doyle TLDR
I was the only one my friends (all of whom I dragged to the theater to see this with me) who loved the ending. You can't overthrow an entrenched system from inside it; you have to go outside of it to look for solutions. So blowing up the train just felt right to me. My favorite analysis of the film looks at it from an economics perspective - Wisecrack's "SNOWPIERCER: Can We Build a Better World?" czcams.com/video/2ydHL5wkmJo/video.html
One of the best sci-fi movies in the last twenty years. Creating a contained and fully fleshed out world on a train is inspired. It stands up to a rewatch. As always: finish Carpenter's Apocalypse Trilogy: 2) Prince of Darkness and 3) In the Mouth of Madness.
Prince of Darkness is criminally overlooked.
Just watched your Arrival reaction and when I clicked back on your channel just now I see another masterpiece! What an awesome treat! Love your discussions and reactions and cant wait to check out more on your channel.
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It's not recent, but another great sci-fi film that also stars Ed Harris is The Abyss. It's a long movie but it's a fun 80s James Cameron film.
Love this film, glad you've watched it.
This is one of my favorite films! I recently rewatched it on new years with my mom, because it is a new years movie after all.
You should look into the Willy Wonka theories about this movie, they're quite interesting whether you believe them or not.
That one video is sooo good, I'm sold on the theory
Watch district 9, it's a great Sci fi movie.
You’re in luck, our reaction to district 9 is coming soon
Dont know what the directors view of the ending might be but for me its like.. sometimes it might just be best to try out something drastic and different, towards the unknown with a sliver of hope, rather than continue with the same old shit thats clearly not working well. Its a risk, last of humanity will likely just die with it in the context of the story but was their existence humane in the first place? Life adapts and goes on even without humans.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time!
Bong Joon Ho is one of favourite filmmakers working today. Snowpiercer was the first of his films I saw and I have since seen Okja and Memories of Murder, both really brilliant, really dark and really funny.
Hello Cinema Rules,
It became a TV series which is equally just as excellent. I suggest you watch it.
It just started the new season😀
I love his movie The Host.It’s one of the best monster movies I have ever seen.There’s even a bit of humor here and there so things don’t get oppressively depressing.
If you didnt seen Parasite pls react to it . I could have sworn you watcht parasite on your channel . Mandela effect ?
Also nice : Memories of Murder ;The Host ;Mother
Nice reaction as always .
I love this film, the comic is very interesting too and you should definitely watch the series. Dystopian worlds are my favourite genre of entertainment & this world is just so different from the usual stories.
This movie was a wonderful satire of class inequality. Technically, if the train had adopted a more equitable distribution of resources, the people would have lived better. True, the First Class would have become less, but the Tail Section would have become more. A balance would have been achieved.
What the First Class in any society doesn't understand is that they can only enjoy their elevated status for only so long before the oppressed class revolts. This has happened in every civilization since the dawn of time.
@Reactance I don't think ever seen someone not get anything they are talking about so spectacularly. It's genuinely impressive.
I'm still waiting for you guys to discover the sci-fi horror greats IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS (1994) by John Carpenter and Larry Cohen's 1976 GOD TOLD ME TO. Mind-bendingly great!
This movie is truly amazing imo. The deeper you dive into the messages and meaning/metaphors etc of alot of this movie is fascinating. I actually like that it's a dark movie, more realistic in a way. Every movie doesn't need the cliche happy ending/happy tones throughout to be good, it makes you feel different emotions. I wish there was more movies like this just for something different. It's a shame harvey weinstein really ruined the release of this movie but i'm so glad people are finally seeing it after the success of Parasite. Great director
This has been one of my favmovies since I was a kid, I'm Iso glad u guys watched it
"My friend, you suffer from the misplaced optimism of the doomed." That's a hell of a line.
When the fanatic teacher started singing on that rotating piano, I burst out laughing.
I think the world building and story is phenomenal. Although I don’t necessarily love the ending, I get why it ended that way and I love the movie as a whole.
Sounds like you have the same opinion as us :)
@@CinemaRules 100%
Governments should always be afraid of the citizenry...
If you guys haven't seen them, you should definitely see "Soylent Green" and "THX 1138."
Since you're on a sci-fi kick, you should absolutely watch the World of Tomorrow Trilogy: three animated short films that make up one of the most viscerally magnificent sci-fi stories ever told. According to Wikipedia, the film has won 42 awards as of 2016. It's magniflorious!
Thanks, Tom! Thanks, Shaun! 🚄+❄=💥
18:00 "the baby was him" made me genuinely crack up LOL
It’s a rare occasion where I think a movie could have benefitted from a few more characters surviving, or at least lasting a bit longer. Jamie Bell’s character needed to die, that choice needed to happen but I think it could have happened a bit later and maybe have someone like Octavia Spencer’s character last till the end. Losing them all in that sauna scene was like you said deflating.
Also my ONE gripe is that we never see a sleeping cabin, we see saunas, jacuzzis, nightclubs, drug dens but never once where the rich people sleep. I get we can’t see EVERY cabin but we know they went through it. I just think if your going to try and make this train idea “realistic” you can’t miss that, even if it’s just a glimpse.
"Babies taste best", best line in the movie!
Watching this movie makes me realize: "Holy CRAP, new episode of Snow piercer is on tonight!" Lol!
I first saw this movie close to when it came out and have only seen it a few times since but it definitely has stuck in my mind. I would actually consider it one of my favorites even though it does have flaws. Will keep you thinking long after watching
17:25 “I know babies taste best!” Endorsed by captain America.
Imagine Chris agent back then telling ppl about Chris big role as captain America. Then they look up his film history, brings up snowpiercer and scenes like that and his agent just sweating there trying to keep Chris rep good.
If there's a polar bear, it means life can survive :)
It's not supposed to leave you satisfied, it's supposed to make you think. It's supposed to make you think about society. Watch Parasite, too. It's an allegory. It's a critique of humanity. It's thought provoking.
I saw this when it came out. Throughout the review I couldn't remember the end. I guess the movie did go sideways for me but I was so impressed with the first two thirds I just let it slide. Nice review fellas.
Back in 2016 it was revealed that Bong Joon-Ho and Song Kan-Ho (who played the security expert) were actually on a government blacklist (there were 9000 artists on the list in total) for making movies with themes like those in this one. From what i saw online they were actually already on it when Snowpiercer was made so getting funding was hard.
I didn't know this. Just looked it up. Pretty shocking to see that conservative South Korean governments tried to starve any artist they considered too liberal of funding and therefore work and yet not shocking too. I can see something like that happening in my own country today. Makes me wonder if Song Kang-ho took on the very political film 'A Taxi Driver' after the blacklist was revealed almost as a big fuck you to the kind of people who'd made it hard for him to get work for a few years.
@@SadPeterPan1977 I mean just think about how long it took for the creator of squid game to get funding and a shot at making his project. they don't like open critiques of capitalism and class politics, even just minor pushback on it.
@@SadPeterPan1977 if you wanna see how shocking some of the stuff the government pulled I suggest looking up the Sewol Ferry Disaster. Outrage over it and government corruption surrounding the event and other things as well led to the impeachment of South Korea's former president. Her administration and the presidental administration before her are responsible for compiling this blacklist
If you liked it I would recommend the series. It's a prequel of course, showing more about the origin story of the SnowPiercer and the evolution of what transpires to get them to this point. It's actually pretty good.
This is a film that shows class conflict.
People in the tail compartment revolt and move forward, but eventually destroy all systems and die together. Director Bong Joon-ho said in an interview he'd rather not start a revolt
I saw this in the theater when it came out. It stuck with me for a LOOOOOONG time after I saw it. It's so very very good, but so unsettling & a little depressing. Everybody in it was fantastic, but Tilda was AMAZING.
I think the whole fish blood thing wasn't so that they get infected with anything i think its like a "I've got blood on this now i HAVE to get a kill" kinda deal. great reaction though lads 👍🏻
Yayyyy!!!
I think I t’s closer to The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas than Wily Wonka. It’s a story where…basically people live in this utopian society that can only function due to the constant pain and misery of a child
One of the best movies I've ever seen on Netflix and one of the most underrated films to introduce people to South Korean cinema.
A person gave an explanation in another Snowpiercer reaction video. He said that the presence of a polar bear is a good sign. Polar Bears are one of the top animals of the food chain hence if a polar bear survives it must mean there are other animals below it that it consumes.
Such an epic film.
Chris Evans rocked in this movie so well.
the scariest part about this movie is that we're living in this exact society, we just don't see or think about the back end of the train because we're all in the front half.
This leads in to why you boys need to hit some 70’s dystopian stuff, like Logan’s Run and A Boy and His Dog.
Memories of Murder and Zodiac are the two ultimate crime films you should react to.
Blew me away when I watched it. I think the problem (which you guys had) was the lack of a positive payoff after so much suffering. Nooo the hero died. But he died for a good reason. It's a similar ending to Train to Busan, but a whole lot bleaker.
I felt dismay that so much of the train was completely destroyed coupled with the implication that only two people survived. I'd give them 5 days before they die, but who knows.
One the better underrated movies, definitely recommend reacting to The Host by the same director
I was surprised at how much of the movie I'd forgotten, since it's such a vivid work. I realize it's not Sci-Fi but if you do watch more Bong Joon Ho I highly recommend "Mother". Bong has a habit of leading viewers down paths that don't wind up where they think they will.
people have probably suggested checking out Memories of Murder and The Host (and I would agree)
but Bong Joon-ho's movie 'Mother' is also fantastic and crazy
I didn't see anyone else mention it, but I didn't go through all the comments. You guys should check out the youtube video "Why SNOWPIERCER is a sequel to WILLY WONKA and the CHOCOLATE FACTORY." It's seems crazy, but the more you watch his video the more it seems plausible haha. Love the channel guys.
Yo, I think you guys "get" it - for just the off the cuff thoughts immediately after the first viewing, you guys did great! I've noticed something after watching a few vids on your channel though that I think might be unnoticed by some who will criticize your scores: I think you guys give generally low scores to things across the board - in other words, you don't really grade on a curve and appear to reserve really high scores for like the best of the absolute best in film. I and many others (not everyone, obviously) don't really take this approach. I would give this film a score somewhere in the 9's because well, I legitimately think it quite easily sits in the 99th percentile of all films in terms of objective quality. I am just assuming you guys reserve your "9 and ups" for a very very select few films that make a HUGE impression on you, which is not necessarily wrong - just a different way of grading!
Anyway, glad you liked the film. There's lots of cool youtube video essays about it that dive into the themes and stuff. Cheers :)
I was one of the lucky ones that saw this in the theater when it came out. I loved every second of it but had issues with the ending originally. Now I think I have a better understanding of it. It’s left a bit open to interpretation, like many Kubrick films, that it’s a possible new beginning for life or death is waiting for them outside as well. In any event, if Tilda Swinton is in it, I’m on board.
Only saw this once before this. Must have blacked out the cannibalism aspects… 🤯 I was just as shocked as you guys were. It started out so good too! I almost ran out and recommended my roomies and I watch it immediately. Nvm… 🙊🥴
+Cinema Rules another wild modern sci-fi film is *District 9*
P.S. I think why you may be let down is because this movie got so hyped up due to it not being well known and it just grew to success because of word of mouth.
It was released in theaters but only limited to certain theaters. The way I found out about this movie was renting but from Redbox for a dollar because of Chris Evans and being told it is an adult Hunger Games. Also I remember seeing a single commercial one single time.
That being said I think the hype train happened (pun intended) because most people when they saw it didn’t know anything about it and didn’t hear anyone else talking about it. So I think the shock of a from my knowledge at the time a straight to DVD movie being this well done and thought provoking.
When I first saw this film, I already had a strong aversion to cockroaches. This movie didn't really help me to shake off those feelings.
I had no idea what I was going to watch going into this film, but absolutely loved it! The only complaint I have is the ending, which didn't feel quite right... but I don't quite know how I would have improved on it. The only 'better' ending I can think of working would be to do a even darker more depressing ending...
Yikes!! The reaction was so fun to watch you guys.
I'm loving their reactions...
Another fun Frozen post-Apocalyptic movie, is called “The Colony “, with Lawrence Fishburne.
You should watch Avalon(Poland/Japan) & Children of Men
Bong Joon Ho is very good at dissecting ,and making class politics digestible for the laymen.
Honestly I don't think Yona & Timmy are the only survivors of the train crash. Considering how condensed the back of the train was, like a shield, I think some people may have survived. I think a lot of people in the middle of the train died due to how spacious the cars were.
"...Babies taste best." One line I will never forget.
Forget the Snowpiercer show, proceed directly to MEMORIES OF MURDER, one of the all-time great serial killer police procedurals.
On Netflix they started the 3 season of the series. Different actors, great scripts.
I agree with it being a 7.6-8…I can see both, and I can understand why people would rate it less, just because it’s so heavy and dark. I am glad you both said you’ll be thinking about it more, as I think once I watched it again and really had a think about it, I appreciated it more. While I was unsatisfied at first with how they dealt with the old leader at the back of the train, I think now that I like that there’s some ambiguity to who he was. Maybe he did partner with Wilford at some point but had a change of heart…maybe not. But I either way, he *did* play a vital role in making Curtis who he was, eventually bringing down Wilford’s train and rigid, cruel class system. I think there’s something beautiful in that- even if Wilford meant for his part to be part of Wilford’s plan, it still wasn’t determinative of Curtis’s fate.
I feel like a lot of the components of this film would’ve been more successful if it was Bong’s vision fully realized. unfortunately parts of it were scrubbed by the production company (might’ve been Weinstein? I’m not sure). I even heard Bong had to fight to keep that fish gutting scene in by lying and saying that it was an homage to his father who was a fisherman lol
she was born on the train and doesn't even need to wear the hood on her jacket or cover her face at all..never experienced less than room temperature temps so it's not even cold at all out there..what the hell have they been doing for the last few years?..factor in the wind chill on your outside thermometers or something..damn..
I had to look it up because I suddenly got concerned about all the times I nicked myself fishing, the blood on the axes was just intimidate, like painting faces, not giving disease or infection.
A sy-fy movie you guys need to react to at some point is Dark City. So good, so underrated. Well worth a watch.
Be sure to watch the directors cut for the best experience. 👍🏻
This was the film that put me on the path to Korean entertainment. Definitely give the American tv series a go. I was unsure how much could be done with such a small contained world and rather direct plot, but they pulled it off. It's been renewed for a third season I believe. For some sci-fi suggestions try Fire in the Sky (1993) and Guillermo del Toro's Mimic (1997). Also, since I haven't seen a reaction vid for it yet, give the Director's Cut of the 80s fantasy film Legend (1985) by Ridley Scott a go.
You should see the TV series of this one as well, it's quite good. It has Connelly and Sean Bean!!!
You can't compare your rating with IMDB, their range of good ratings is from about 6 to 8.5 due to the averaging of user scores run through whatever formula they use... there are no movies rated in the 9's. The point of the ending is that trying to continue in this insane class system we live is bad and it's better to blow it up and start over. The optimism is that even though humanity might destroy the world, nature will eventually fix it and life will continue and the children will hopefully make a new order to live under.
The ancient one bodied her role, I love her. BE A SHOE
Actually the best video about Snowpiercer on CZcams is "Snowpiercer-Left or Right?" by the channel Every Frame a Painting. In fact, all of Every Frame a Painting is good.
Also I think the dystopia guess is right. The film is a critique of capitalism, just like basically all of Bong's other films.
That reminds me, watch all of Bong's other films! Okja, Parasite, Memories of Murder, The Host, Mother, watch all of them!
Now watch the "Snowpiercer is a sequel to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" and be blown away.
The Ancient One's and ex-Captain America's only interaction.
Just like to point out that this story is all allegory. The train represents the earth circling the sun once a year in the cold vacuum of space. You can work out the rest for your self.
There is a fish food called Repashy that you add boiling water to and stir and it basically turns into what they are eating. My plecos eat one called Morning Wood (plecos need wood to digest algae) so there is nothing gross in it but, there are several made out of bugs, worms, flies or insects. 😝
I'd love to see you guys react to older dystopian sci-fi too! Like Death Race 2000 or Logan's Run
Soylent Green 😁
It's a Nanocosm of humanity at it most elemental.
Hi! You probably won't see this but I massively recommend that you check out the tv show Snowpiercer, its incredibly well dont and hardly anyone has given their thoughts on it.
At the very least I hope you check it out in your spare time sometime 😊👍
Wait this is like the netflix show but came earlier? I never heard of this movie. Curious to see it