3 Keys For TOUR-LIKE Lower Body Rotation in Your Swing! 🌪
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2022
- In today's video, Mike Granato and Shaun Webb of Athletic Motion Golf are showing you the 3 KEYS for a tour like lower body rotation during your backswing!
You may be wondering exactly how your hips work during this rotation in your golf swing backswing, or how much golf swing rotation is too much. Not enough?
In today's video, you'll discover the biggest MUST KNOW techniques for lower body rotation in your golf swing.
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I broke 80 for the first time today. Shot 79. I just wanted to say thank you. Your videos, especially the ones with gears in them have helped me out so much!
great!!
that's a good score. i 've been golfing for 40+ years and been a 13 hdcp. for about 30 and have only shot below 80 three times in my life and they've been spaced out about one every ten years, it's not easy for me and it's not for a lack of playing and hitting a lot of range balls. i'm 72 and feel like if i was gonna get to a 10 hdcp or below it would have happened by now, still pluggin away though. good golfin to ya.
I love what you do. You make it so simple. I see that I started doing this last week and I was hitting better. I’m watching all of your videos to get my game to a higher level. Thanks
This is exactly what I needed to review! How clearly and easy to understand! I can honestly say I’m a better golfer just by following your lessons. Thank you!!
one of the best explanations of the dynamics of the body rotation and club movement. Thanks will be replaying this several times.
For me, this is your best episode yet. Thanks so much.
Excellent golf instruction as always, thanks to this chanel I've had something to really build on and my golf swing makes "more sense". The whole trick is not just knowing about it but actually practicing it..over and over and then over some more. Thats what I enjoy.
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I never comment any videos on youtube, but I have to say that this is the best golf video I have ever seen. Yesterday I played a golf tournament and I played so well just by keeping these three keys in mind. This is a really great channel!!! Greetings from Germany and keep up this great work!
Great job!!
Eureka, this is the final solution. I have watched your Pro vs Am: hips and then shoulders.
This video is the icing on the cake.
Thank you fellas.
Great video!
You guys have such a good back and forth to your presentations. You compliment each other well.
We have a lot of fun. Best job in the world😊
I've watched this multiple times. So good
Great explanation & demonstration of golf swing. Time to practice!
Happened upon this channel. I've seen a zillion golf instruction channels. This is the best of them all. And I am NOT prone to hyperbole. The use of biomechanics with computer modeling is just excellent. Gives the viewer confidence in the instruction. Thanks, you two.
We’re glad u found us! Let us know if there’s anything we can cover to help your game👍
I’ve been trying to get back into golf for years but just couldn’t get it working. Your three keys, especially the knees as I have been swaying left on the downswing straightening the right knee, have helped to get me rotating properly. Many thanks.
Thank you for continuing to help us fellas!
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This is fantastic. Just practicing the thighs being vertical solved a lot of issues with me. The hips turn enough! And it solves swaying. Thank you!
Great tip
Another great video guys! Very helpful.
Thanks brother 👊🙏🏻
The “switching the knees” explanation was very helpful! Thanks.
This video was very much a 💡 moment for me. Being a former pitcher, I struggle with “pushing off” with my Trail foot. The term “flow movement” was very enlightening. I can hardly wait to try this at the range. Great information and explanations.
Those 3 descriptions are so beautifully clear and helpful the third one really is eye opening for me been trying to keep my right hip back to prevent comming forward tks
Thanks!!
Thank you Shaun and Mike! This is the clearest explanation of lower body rotation I've heard.
We hope it helps!
Excellent guys!
Love you guys!! Have to be my favorite CZcams instructor’s.
Have a question for you guys about the left shoulder movement on the backswing I’m not sure a great way to explain it without standing right in front of you but on my backswing should my left shoulder feel like it stays the same level so when I turn back I’m pushing it down almost versus rising it into my chin that just seems to be my normal motion I was wondering as I turned back if I should almost feel like my left shoulder is working down thank you
Eureka Moment! Thanks for the video, this clears up a lot of issues I feel like I have been having lately.
Love it!
This is an excellent video
You explain hips for the amateur to understand better and more rounded explanation than a lot of others on CZcams
Thanks! We hope it helps 👊
As always an awesome video , the avatar makes it crystal clear
Love the "re-centering" tip. Also, on downswing, I have found lifting my right (trail) heel on the forward shift helps the left side into extension as the whole trail side gets into flexion (Dr Kwon, walking movement- Mike Austin actually identifies this as critical to getting on front post allowing trail hip freedom to turn after shift) . Your system using gears is a great visual and compliment to the kinetic movement they describe). Thank you!
thank you@!
new fave channel
Love it! Glad you found us👊
Always the best golf swing content out there (IMHO)! Love the thought on knee/leg focus instead of hip focus on the downswing. Here's been my thought on the lesson tee... what do you think? The back swing proceeds "top to bottom" ... the shoulder turn (and not the hands) bring the club to parallel - and the shoulder turn on the backswing "compels" the hips to turn passively... the downswing, on the other hand, proceeds from the ground up "bottom to top" the back foot initiates the "knee switch" which gets the hips moving correctly which then gets the torso, the chest, the shoulders, and finally the arms and hands to fire sequentially... so the golf swing is "Top to Bottom... Bottom to Top"... am I onto something or where am I "off the rails"?
We’ve seen those very same thoughts help a lot of players👊
I’m convinced it’s from the ground up to maximum load and like a lightning strike the energy goes back to the ground.
Awesome breakdown incorporating FEEL with TECHNIQUE!
Thank you!
Another great sessions Guys - making it is so clear and most of all structured. Too many coaches tell golfers ABOUT the golf swing you tell us HOW to make it.
Love it! We hope it helps 👊😊
Great video. Thanks.
Thanks brother 🙏🏻
"...worried about early extension..." such an excellent point here. That was me when I was trying to implement the left hip back piece...it "felt" like I was early extending but as Shaun mentions the right hip needs to come off the wall. PHEW thanks for this! Excellent vid again!
Set it free! 👊🙂
Fellas, big fan of AMG! Early extension, here's my remedy; forget about pelvic depth and all other non athletic thoughts. In fact, forget about the lower body and concentrate on one thing, a bent right wrist at impact. It is physically impossible to get anywhere near the ground (much less the ball) with even the smallest amount of wrist bend. If you are able to compress a golf ball with a bent right wrist you are guaranteed adequate pelvic depth and a host of other key positions will also occur naturally. This is not an easy task for any of us 'goat humpers' out there, but it really addresses the issue with just one swing thought. No need to attach your rear end to a chair or a wall, etc. Again, you guys are my go to golf instruction channel. The Pro vs. Am stuff is so informative!
Thankyou, I get it now!
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New camera? Picture seemed super clear and crisp. Good stuff fellas!
yes :)
You guys are the gold standard. I am doing this all wrong, especially with driver. I am using my hips to control my swing and find my move back might be a 55 degree turn but i can only manage a 25 on the downswing. Started by trying to control hook and a bunch of other problems. Thanks for this i will be more conscious of my knees and upper body turn rather than just letting my hips control everything. I already automatically recenter but maybe more work with a wall will help. Thanks as always
Thanks! Hope it helps!!
Love this channel. The only channel I trust! I was wondering, would you guys be able to cover the small lowering movement in the downswing in greater detail? I was wondering if it is the same as the "squat" movement both Sam Snead and Tiger are known for.
That’s a great idea for a video👏. The “squat” is largely an illusion. Without spoiling the video😊 the body isn’t doing what the head is doing😉
Great content! Love the channel. It would be fun to see you guy’s play a nine hole match.
good idea!
Thank you. Been playing for 50+ yrs but haven’t understood this concept. Always had trouble “getting to the left side”
I’ve been working through so many of your instructions and it has done wonders for my swing. But I had some factor in there that was holding me back or blocking my getting to my best swing giving me my most consistent ball flight. The other day at the range it clicked BIG TIME and everything changed. Something that you should ABSOLUTELY create a full length video instruction for. There is a huge difference between “turning” in the backswing as opposed to “rotating” in the backswing. Pete Cowan made a quick mention of this and it popped into my head. From the bottom at address I made my draw back with the club feel as if I was slightly rolling my left wrist forward and instead of turning backward and forcing the club into what felt like the correct plane, I simply rotated my upper torso allowing my left shoulder to dip down where it freely wanted to go, then re-centered forward as I rotated my upper torso while my arms dropped into my down swing. The club actually felt light at the top and gained terrific speed on the way down through impact. WOW!! What I discovered was, no matter how well I found all the right positions intentionally, turning back created the need to direct the club into the proper position for the downswing. But rotating the upper torso and letting the hips follow accordingly sets up a very natural fall of that club and when you again rotate in the same fashion down while feeling the club freely doing that whip, it feels like far less effort to hit with quite a bit of power and consistency. Hope that all makes sense because it was a very interesting discovery for me and that’s the best way I can describe it. I was turning back not rotating and the difference was night and day. 👍🏻😎👍🏻
Awesome. In lessons, we often say “the shoulders turn, the hips tilt.” The result sounds very similar to what you just described 🤓
@@AthleticMotionGolf, that description definitely sounds exactly how it feels. That tells me I’m doing it right. Thanks for all those videos that have helped me in a HUGE way in my mission to recisteict my swing the proper way. I have literally never played the game better and a lot of that has to do with what I’ve learned for you two. No doubt. 👍🏻😎👍🏻
How good is this?!
Concepts of what we’re supposed to be doing.
Thanks Guys
Thanks for checking it out!
You guys have some of the most accurate information out there! Thank you for dispelling many myths in faulty concepts. Dr. Kwon has also helped expose some really old and bad information out there.
Question for you: Do you guys have a good way of teaching how to get lead side pressure early without allowing COM to far forward? Mike, you eluded to it a bit in this video that the re-centering is not to far forward. Thanks in advance for your time👍
We were in Dr Kwon’s lab nearly 10 years ago. We find when folks measure, the results aren’t too far apart😊.
Shifting pressure is more about unweighting. Meaning if you want to shift pressure to the front foot (without over sway weight), you have to lighten your trail foot. That’s what shifts pressure. We cringe 😬 when we hear folks who don’t measure say things like pushing off the back foot shifts pressure forward🤦♂️. That shifts weight forward while shifting pressure backwards (under the foot that’s pushing).
Thanks for taking the time to respond👍 keep up the great work of putting out information that is correct and helpful to people
I absolutely love your guys' channel, having analytics and models to relay what you're saying and trying to demonstrate has insanely improved my knowledge of the swing. However, one problem I keep having is not hitting down on the ball with irons , or at least not consistently. I can sometimes get a -2 on the sim but sometimes its 0 or even positive, any tips?
When does your club shallow coming down?
@@AthleticMotionGolf im not too sure, but i made some changes in my swing to play the ball in the middle of my stance. Im having trouble consistently taking a divot past the ball. I just watched your how to compress the ball and will try and do that.
I use to rotate the hips real fast at beginning of takeaway, my coach had me feel until hands get to trail thigh to feel hips not rotating. This feel actually helped me rotate hips better. On video they are rotating but much slower.
Love it. A good sequence from the start goes a long ways!
Love that
Hi. Started following the channel.
I to struggle with early extension and rotation. 😂.
Does the position/setup of the pelvis at address play a part in ability to rotate?
I played around yesterday and felt like if the pelvis points more level at address it feels easier to rotate.
Rgrds
Would an option for the takeaway be to kind of set that lateral hip movement at the beginning of the swing (a la Henrik Stenson)?
This is so key, the thing that tricks me is how small the swing feels, but it's not irs actually a massive turn, it's just way less body and arm movement when my lower body rotates correctly...the recentering is key too, it feels like you start your downswing I'm the middle of your backswing, crazy feeling but you'll flush it when you get it correct
Amazing video! Do you have any suggestions to stop your arms from collapsing and letting go of the grip during the recentering? On video as I recenter with the weight of the club head going back to the target I have a nasty problem of arms collapsing
It takes working on it slowly at first and pushing the hands away from your body At the top of the swing
What do you think of an open stance golf swing? Thinking Fred couples?
What would be the reason for doing it?
So would it be correct to say that the hips pivot rather than turn? When I think of them turning, I think about the entire pelvis rotating around the spine and it’s difficult to get that open in the downswing. When I think about it pivoting or working on a pulley system forward and back, on an angle created by the forward bend, it becomes easier.
Sean and Mike, another great video... on the surface, in the video there appears to be some contradictory advice on whether or not 'backing in' is a good or bad thing? Some golfers avoid that sensation of putting one's tailbone back towards the corner. Obviously we need some hip tilt and angle so we can get 'downhill' but how much backing in is good and at what point does it become problematic? It seems like some of that relates to address - set up with too much reverse K or weight to the trail side and things can get wonky fast. Not asking you guys to give away the 'secret sauce' here for free ;-) but some clarification between when 'backing in' becomes a fault or an issue would be enlightening. Just a suggestion for future content. You guys do great work and have the best jobs on the planet.
Definitely need all three.
Get’r done👊
Cheers Gents.
you too
Can you guys do a review of ben Hogan’s golf swing compared to modern swings. I am 59 and find less back strain with the hogan swing, thanks
Mfg
What’s the “Hogan swing” mean to you? Asking because he had a couple variations.
Where is the pivot point of the pelvis - is it in the center of the pelvis both in backswing and downswing or what. Your bones view of Sep 3, 2018 makes me unsure. I always thought that the R hip should go only slightly forward "off the glass" ( toward the ball) in the downswing a la Greg Norman such that the R leg should move toward the target (contracting adductors) rather than what it seems like you are advocating above which sounds like a push back at a 45 degree or so angle with the Right leg.
I am really struggling with this. Your videos are great help in understanding it, but I am just struggling to get the correct feeling to accomplish this. Any exercise or motion drills would be appreciated. I tend to either twist or more likely stand up early at the finish. Lots and lots of thin shots or topping.
We've got a complete training series dedicated to just this topic on our website. Here's the link if you might be interested (Mastering Weight and Pressure) athleticmotiongolf.com/distance-training/
Great video,the 3 key things i now try to master in my 11yr! journey down to 4hcp,Set Up,Sequencing and Resistance(i havnt mastered this yet! but its the key to starting transition on your backswing)
Your sledgehammer analogy is great as 99% of all great ball strikers learnt golf as a weak kid, when the club must have felt like one! and having used their lowerbody to start momentum you have to resist otherwise you would never get the sledgehammer to swing back
Like most golfers who start late in life and have been good at other sports,i massively overdo the backswing,ive never done this in other sports
Where are you guys located, and how can I get an analysis from you?
Any chance you can show us how the Korda sisters are able to do a full release with their swing and still pure wedges?
Your professional personal explanation of how these 3 areas work is much better than using Avitar examples to explain these areas of the swing cant beat the personal touch of both of you working together
Ok thank you!
How do you guys feel about Monte's "zipper away" drill? Any issues with it you see?
No sir
Tell me more about this concept of a vertical trail leg at impact!
Yessir. The trail hip (thigh) moves from flexion at the top towards extension coming down. Typically arriving at impact in extension.
@@AthleticMotionGolf so in essence, the concept is the trail thigh is more or less perpendicular to the ground at impact? Pointing down at the ground, not out towards the bal?
@@kjseiler12 correct
U rotate both left and right pelvis when coming down?
Yessir
So... are you guys selling those hats? I wouldn't mind rocking one of those on the course.
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The knee movement reminds me of Mike Austin
Can you please show us a video with lines from up the line, most video's are Down the line and center and above.
From the target view?
Yes, please...
So is it safe to assume that the pelvis drives the lower body more than the knees and legs. Like the chest drives the upper half more than the arms and elbows?
We see the pelvis driving the lower create a lot of issues for golfers. Many of them focus on moving the pelvis a bunch causing very poor leg movements. Instead, good leg movements typically give them the pelvis movements they’ve been chasing 😊
@@AthleticMotionGolf what are your guys thought on the left leg only swing drill?
@@kyleschleter9824 used it in a lesson today🙂
I have really struggled with the re-centering move. I am a senior golfer with a 16 handicap and my coach says that re-centering before completing the backswing is just too difficult for the average mid-handicap amateur. What do you boys think?
Looks like your need a different coach...how can something so simple be too difficult?
I would say find a new coach. If you can’t re-center in time maybe you have shifted to much weight late into the backswing. This is not a strength or flexibility issue. It’s a timing and sequencing issue.
@@jeffcaminiti162 ... 👍👍
Great video but I have such a hard time with this move. My hips want to turn straight away when I shift to the right and I find it nigh on impossible to separate the upper and lower body movement. When my upper body rotates, my hips just want to follow! ☹️
You Have to slow down and work it out first at a slower pace
@@AthleticMotionGolf Tried that as well and still can’t shift without rotating the hips! 😂 Honestly, I’m reaching the conclusion that I just wasn’t meant to play golf!
@@rossferguson417 every time someone tells us that they aren’t even close to going slow enough to make it happen😊
@@AthleticMotionGolf Right, it’s back to the drawing board. I’ve also got the AMG+ membership and haven’t been making use of the Facebook page so I’ll start doing that as well! 👍
brothre,you uploaded superb -catch you later,
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Using the left knee to start the downswing and expecting it to transfer the weight has also been a hugh mistake of mine it has been thaught forever by just about every Pro out there not good to say the least tks again
Great comment here!!! 👍🏻👍🏻
There is a million different ways people Coach and it can get confusing sometimes. I’ll always fall back on what the pros do. If they do it a certain way then I should be striving for that whether I get there or not.
absolutely. same with us
This is why Matt wolf does that move and lifts his heel
Can you give us your credentials again? I think you’re right on. But so different from how I was taught …did jack nicklaus di it this way?
Our Credentilas? Is this a job interview ? 😀We’ve worked with 7 winners on the pga tour this year alone.
Just that I don’t want to do something crazy with my swing…though I DO feel I’m hitting the ball better…it IS a sort of job interview because I plan on following your advice exclusively…Too many YOU TUBE videos out here ..I like how you present things..hope you are not offended!
@@armandaliotta7065 No sir not at all. You're doing a very smart thing (asking questions from who you listen to) 🤓
“You will get all the rotation you need by changing knee flex. Left bent and in on backswing - right on the downswing. Not early extension if right buttocks comes off wall on downswing if left goes stays on wall and deep!” 🤯
You guys charge $5,000 for half a day and $10,000 for a full day, for one person? Is that 12 and 24 hours at $417 per hour?
its 3 hour half day and 6 hour full day. Not sure we could make it 24 hours straight haha
The more videos I watch the worse I get
How so?
@@AthleticMotionGolf it's hard to diagnose my own problems so I just try new videos every week. But honestly I'm getting better, just not in an efficient way
@@toneabet6252 Record your swing and identify the issues in it. Do things to address those issues. If you're having a hard time identifying the issues from a recording, watch more pros vs ams videos and check how your swing compares to the things they are talking about.
@@toneabet6252 I think we’ve all been on that treadmill at one time or another. Everyone tends to have a hard time objectively diagnosing their own swings. We have a system that will help with that plus a way for us to see your swing regularly online. There’s info in our site if you’d like some help👍
Stop watching other videos and stick with these guys. They have some of the best most accurate info backed by data out there
amazed how much poor instruction there was 20 years ago, sensors, 3d imaging, weight sensing plates, and physicists studying the swing sure has changed instruction for the better
Yeah I’m still recovering from some of the bad lessons I took over the years
Great video!
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