Is Toronto Worth Moving to?
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Toronto is not for you if you can relate to the following points. Watch this to learn why you should or should not move to Toronto.
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One of the biggest things is, people moving to Canada and going to Toronto or Vancouver as the default option, being the "main" city, or "most opportunities". However, that's like someone trying to get over to the US and starting up in New York...
It's hard enough to establish yourself in a new country, and new home, let alone trying to do it in the most financially pressing version of it. Best bet is to find your feet in somewhere simpler, and much more affordable, even if a smaller town, and once you're on top of things, can consider the move if you still REALLY want to go there...
Well said!
Sir, while this is theoretically great advice and I highly urge people moving here to adhere to it, I want to talk about another demographic. I can tell you that even if you start out in a smaller city, if you are in a decent career or major in school, it’s hard to not want to live in the epicentre of the potential opportunities. My cousin studied in Halifax (Dalhousie) and got a $70k job out of school, but then got offered an internship at Google in Toronto that paid him more than $55/hour for 8 months. He had never visited Toronto but after that internship, he despises the idea of moving back to Halifax. I think while it’s not the biggest demographic, the talented young people in engineering, finance and tech won’t stay in Canada unless it’s Toronto (or Montreal if they speak some French, maybe Vancity if they are avid outdoorsmen but same issues). Especially once they’ve traveled to major cities in the world. We really don’t have anything better to offer. (Other than the great TO). And I’d hate for this demographic to brain drain to the US, like I had to a few months ago.
@@ChasingBogeys - For sure, people with the security of professional level employment have greater opportunities in those places, and the ladies of Make That Change said you can actually save more and live better in Toronto if that's the case because earning potential and opportunity is greater, but this isn't the case for probably 95% of people immigrating (at least in the beginning).
toronto needs cheap labour, canada needs cheap labour, thats why i see so many new immigrants, for whoever came here with some saving, and entered housing market right away, will not likely to have a happy ending this time LOL
I live in Winnipeg when I landed here. Still do. And despite the rising prices, my rent is way more affordable and Im able to save a lot. There are some downsides like it’s boring here in my opinion and brutally cold. But im lucky to get my PR faster after just 1 year program and landed a job after 1 month.
Thank you for the great content and very informative video it was very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Great presentation. I moved to Toronto for my first job in 1975 and never left. I travelled all over for work, but it always felt great to return to Toronto.
It is a pretty good place to live if you are wealthy. There are some awesome neighborhoods and some great parks. I live near the Humber river in a quiet well treed neighborhood with miles of nature trails and a short trip to the airport. And uber wealthy people from all over the world do come to live here. It is not for the average income. I love the diversity and access to food from around the world. OTOH, I sometimes wonder why I put up with the congestion and the cost even in retirement.
I think the only reason to move to Toronto is to chase that perfect job that pays well. You live here to develop your network for your career and as a great base to travel for work.
Then if you have the resources, you stay to enjoy your neighborhood.
I lived for a while in Boston's Back Bay. Wonderful. But equally expensive and congested. And there we would park the car and walk. In Toronto, travel is all by car.
Great information, greetings from Pereira, Colombia.
Thanks for watching!
You did not mention the HOMELESS crisis. It was so daunting and saddening to me when living there, seeing all these partially mentally ill and very poor homeless people literally everywhere.
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Welcome to Canada, the land of homelessness and drug addiction!
Homeless are everywhere. Stop voting to decriminalize drugs.
I was born in Toronto, but moved to Portugal with only 13 years of age, Now I´m 48, and never got the chance to re-visit my hometown, unfortunately. I can see that A LOT has changed. At this stage of my life, I would´nt even dream of moving back to Toronto, or any city in Canada for that matter, but I do plan on visiting my country as soon as I can!
Portugal is a wonderful country!
Great comprehensive overview of the current situation in Canada’s biggest cities. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Will it be cured?? Can u gurantee?..im also planning to come..but when i hve heard these negative things, my mind bit changed
No one can ever guarantee anything. Our recommendation is to make a decision based on what’s most important to you - if you remember that, you will overcome all difficulties
@@MakeThatChange Thanks for your reply
Just finished up my 1st year here in Toronto as a student. Now looking to focus on my career! Gotta say, I not only agree but FEEL every point made in this video.
Especially the one about the TTC. I use the street cars the most and I NEVER expect things to go smoothly. There's always something going out of service, arriving way too late and even when the TTC itself works fine (very rare) there's some random construction going on or there's a huge event like TIFF that's closes off like 100 stops so you have to either walk or find another way to get to your destination.
Don’t get us started on construction! 😅
More than half of the people who live in Toronto were not born in Canada.
Toronto has no identity of its own. It is just a place which wants to imitate the USA.
My son has lived in Toronto for the past two years and more, Alho he ia an American trained Engineer and with a MBA from Schulich business school, He found it tough to fetch himself a job that he was looking for, although, He has aligned himself to get a high paying job in the future, I have been to Toronto four times and I live in Mumbai India, When I visited Toronto first in 1992, Toronto was not so crowded as it is now, the infrastructure is showing the wear and tear, I would love to see the rest of Canada. I already have my airline ticket ready which is open for six months, I will have to extend it .I hope I will travel to Canada ....no no not in the winters but after April and before October .
it sure is scary to travel by the train
It was indeed shocking to see beggars on the train and unruly people shouting at others and I feared if the person was carrying any weapon on him to harm people
not to forget the junkies and the homeless people, it adds to our pessimism and negative view.
Its all transactional -business no fund and no soul as stated in the video.
I have been to NZ too. I find NZ better than Canada ...its a fun place
NZ is also a very beautiful place with a much better climate.
Thank you for sharing your experience with Toronto since 1992 🙏
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I’m from Toronto and have lived all over the world and I still love the city when I’m home. But I extend that love to the narrow band of life that can be afforded if you live down town and don’t drive. At this point, this functionally means you have to be pretty wealthy. My family member bought a house for 300 k in 2005 and it’s market value is now in the range of 2 million. This is insane…
Every time I’m back my mind is blown by how dysfunctional traffic has become and I lived in South Asia and South East Asia. Additionally, renting is insanely expensive and I live in Switzerland and think this.
All that said, Toronto is a food capital of the world. And there is a good cultural scene going on. You just have to live on one of the few subway or dedicated LRT rails, be wealthy, and tolerate winter, and never want to drive…
How did this place get awarded the best city to live in so many times 😅??? But seriously, I wish I could move back. But not on a professor’s salary!
"How did this place get awarded the best city to live in so many times 😅???" - Marketing, I presume. You gotta keep new people coming in to feed the workforce somehow, right? 😄
I'd advise viewers to take this video with a grain of salt. Most of the issues highlighted - high living costs, competitive job markets, and challenges in transportation and urban lifestyle - are common to nearly all major metropolitan cities, not just Toronto. These cities, including Toronto, offer a wealth of opportunities, cultural diversity, and professional growth that often outweigh these urban challenges. If you want to avoid all these issues, you’ll have to go to a small city where there often aren’t very many jobs.
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I live in toronto its been 42 years now what they said in the video is 100% right but back in the day toronto was not like this toronto changed big time. Awesome Video
thank you for sharing that Mikey!
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Average salary in Vancouver is just a smidge above 69k, but you'll also wanna make six-figures to have a full comfortable life. Our downtown peninsula is quite busy, in fact it's the most densely populated neighbourhood in Canada, but easy to escape if you want some tranquility. I'd also caution people moving to Vancouver, but if they're adamant on the west coast, one of the metro areas would be a good place to start.
Thank you for sharing that! West coast has such a wonderful climate
Informative video, though I laughed a little bit of "rushed to eat my breakfast in 60 min!"
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I am a corporate banker recently got my PR, although I am 46, I was thinking that my dream of getting another masters from a top Canadian university + completing my CFA is doable there. Although I am also living in big cities and I am Dubai resident since 15 years, I am now regretting refusing a simple banking job offer in the Quebec northern regions. I thought 💭 that life sucks in northern small cities. But you changed my mind a bit. The problem in small cities that salaries are too little. I was offered only 60K before tax, as a start in a little branch after always working in Bank 🏦 Head Office in Dubai.
Thats interesting! Can you please share what do you think of living in Dubai? I consider moving there and would appreciate any thoughts about this city. Thank you!
You should make a video about the pro's of living in Toronto as well
We will soon!
Maybe I'm wrong but one thing I see in Toronto more than anywhere else , is that people staying in their own communities. Working and living surrounded with people with the same origins. I think you get more opportunities mixing with the locals and other nationalities.
I noticed this too and it surprised me. I guess people do so because it's the easy thing to do.
This is a natural phenomena I think and applies to most medium to large sized cities. Which makes living in the largest cities rather pointless IMO.
That’s a great point!
@@murraytown4 Ikr, I see living in a big city the same way as going to the army. You gotta get in there, do your duty and then get back to living your life. 😆
I've yet to meet one person that truly enjoys living in a big city.
Well said! Except Canadians probably will not get the reference since army in Canada is not mandatory like in some other countries.
Is Toronto a terrible city? Absolutely not. Is it worth anywhere near the cost it takes to live there? Absolutely not. Better options in the country for sure.
u have to pay for parking???????moving to Canada soon
would it be recommended for a student in Vancouver who graduated in Tecb/IT to move to Toronto or montreal ?
If you cannot find opportunities in Vancouver, Toronto or Montreal is definitely a good place to look, there are many more opportunities, but competition is also higher.
Why's the word Toronto upside down on your shirt lol
It’s symbolic to the video 😅
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Which city do you suggest except the city Toronto ?
Are you specifically interested in Ontario or other provinces?
I was living in Richmond Hill in 2010 and was paying $1,000 for 1B apartment.
In 2017 I went back to do a Master's and all I coul find was 1 bedroom in a shared basement in Richmond Hill for $550
I spend many nights sleeping in the superstudio of Toronto University and taking showers in the gym
Today, probably you won't find even a bedroom in a shared basement in Scarborough
Doing the Master, was open the door to work in US
Is not the point to be patience, as many inmigrants think, you have to do something, because everything will get worse
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Is there ANY place in Canada that Canadians would recommend? I know some talk about "lifestyle". I think "survival" might be a better argument. Also, it seems to me that those who do things like clean commercial spaces, fix plumbing, deliver mail, all these common occupations can't afford to live in this city.
People with low paid occupations would definitely struggle in this city, as there is always a cap on their income. The only way plumbers, cleaners can make good money is if they start their own business - this way they are in control of how much they can make.
@@MakeThatChange And here's the thing. There is a catalogue of professional skills needed anywhere. Don't WASTE those skills in a location where the compensation buys you the poorest lifestyle. I once recently did a little research project of skills most needed and least available in Canada. People able to do those things have the widest range of choice. Again, NEVER choose the most expensive place to settle. Reminds me of a company that moved its headquarters to Bali due to a radically lower cost of operation.
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Not to be political, but Toronto and Canada overall were a lot different before Trudeau. Went from being one of the most desirable and successful nations to one where middle class struggles to support the takers.
I've moved out of Canada to the US and its much better, much higher wages.
Is this true also about the cities in greater toronto?
Depends on the city. Which cities are you thinking of?
@@MakeThatChange Like Etobicoke, Mississauga, Richmond Hill and etc
Personally, I find Mississauga noisy because it’s surrounded by highways and has an airport.
Etobicoke and Richmond Hill are much nicer
@@MakeThatChangehow about all the negative points you mentioned about toronto? like prices and public transportation and ...
Richmond hill is expensive. Etobicoke is a bit less expensive than Toronto.
Not for me anyway I love people but also I m looking for quiet live I'm waiter I don't know where I should go in Canada
Waiting in big cities definitely has a big upside! But there’s plenty of places to choose - you will find a place that suits your lifestyle!
@@MakeThatChange hopefully 🙏 😌
Try out Whistler. Great place for hospitality gigs and you can try it out for a season :).
How is montreal and calgary for international students in 2024 regarding part time job and accommodation ?
Montreal is facing a reel crisis of housing offers especially for student. If you have already found your apt or studio you could handle the rest otherwise good luck to find an accommodation! Be ready for the price that you will pay for grocery as well !
@@LALA-ld2zw what about calgary and edmonton regarding job in present situation ?
@@learnerents2861 Sorry I have no clue about those cities. Can’t be a good advisor ;)
@@LALA-ld2zw sure thanks for response
Calgary is a larger city that Edmonton, so you will naturally get more job opportunities,You can go on linkedin or indeed.ca and search for your desired job position - look at how many openings you have and the results will show you which city has more opportunities in your desired field
I wouldn't agree with the statement at 2:25 that Toronto has no soul. I definitely always get a good vibe from the people, and the nightlife is actually pretty great if you can somehow afford it. There's also lots of groups of people exploring different hobbies like photography, dance, film, etc. I've been to many cities and Toronto is definitely has a good vibe but I agree with the rest of the critisism.
Thank you for sharing that!
Soooo what can you suggest Smallest province Settal and Low Earning low Expansions Happy Life...🤔🥳
There are second tier cities or the cities outside the top 5 that are still great for a good life.
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I have relatives they live in Toronto city
How do they like it?
@@MakeThatChange beautiful city and people so friendly and comfortable
that's great to hear! Come visit!
I'm from Toronto and live in Toronto as a renter. The best advice I can give you: Get away from Toronto. It's not worth it. If you can, go to the USA instead. Everyone I know who is at the top of their career wants to get out, is in the process of getting, or has recently left.
Me and the people I know are exactly the same. In fact, most people get into this mindset either before even coming here or very shortly after realizing how things work. It only makes sense to build up your resume here and then dip to a place that's much more comfortable.
Yup. I'm doing my PhD, wife is in an MBA. We're preparing our exit.@@KeroŞero
@@christiann-pl1yo That sounds awesome! 🥳 I’m sure it’s been a challenging journey so far but you guys seem to have a handle on things. Wherever you end up, I wish you the best of luck!
No place in Canada is worth the price that you have to pay. Whether you want to live in a big city or a small town, you can find a similar place in the USA or other countries for much less.
Yep I had to do the same a few months ago. Was making “great” money in Toronto but refused to live a lifestyle three levels below everyone else at that income in the US. When I say lifestyle, I don’t mean anything extravagant but buying decent groceries, going out to decent dinners, doing activities with friends, occasional travel etc. I can tell you that nobody in the US at a similar income level was discussing budget, real estate and immigration after every two sentences (atleast in the two cities I’ve spent time in so far - NYC and San Diego). We are all struggling with inflation etc, but Toronto (CA) seems to not have a plan or change of pace. I really hope we can move back at some point and not need to be crazy rich, because I would’ve lived in Dubai or Mumbai if I wanted such a huge gap between different economic classes. It’s heartbreaking.
After all these years you claimed Canada is not what you wanted, you are still living in Canada! Find a better place to stay?
I'm sorry, I honestly don't remember we ever claimed that "Canada is not what we wanted". Where did we say that?
better to stay in winnipeg
winniper is a hidden gem! ( if you don't mind the cold)
@@MakeThatChange i mind about crazy inflation( despite my income 80k + i live alone )
I feel you
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Man, clearly you have never been in Tehran! 12 million poeple living in a place which is just a little bigger than Toronto city. When people complain about traffic and crowded public transport, it makes me laugh!
But yes, it is very expensive. If I ever want to leave toronto, that would be my primary reason. Speking of which, I'm considering Kitchener/Wareloo. Please tell me what you guys think.
Kitchener/Waterloo is a great area and nice overall location. It is a vibrant and student-centric city since it has some of the best universities in Ontario. We liked this area a lot when we visited.
And people like to throw shade on boring, little, old Ottawa. Really?
Seriously, I’ve lived my adult life in Ottawa and thought decades ago…I’m retired now…that Toronto would have been ideal. I just visited TO again and came to realise that I would never want to live there. The older I get the less chaos I want in my life. And to be honest, while I made good money , and my pension is much better than most, I could not afford the lifestyle I want in TO. (It’s simply not worth what you pay.) So, it’s a fab place to visit but that’s about it. It used to be said that the best thing about Ottawa was the train to Montreal (substitute Toronto if you wish). Now all I can say is the best thing about Toronto is the train to Ottawa.
Thank you for sharing that! Glad you’re enjoying your city!
I've seen a couple of other people say some nice things about Ottawa. It really seems like a smart choice nowadays.
I lately visited Ottawa, I found it nice and family friendly city. BUT homeless &drug-addict persons are everywhere, it shocked me a lot in a known safest city in the world ! I think it is a serious issue now in all big cities in Canada. It is crucial to act before the situation would go out of control. I thought that homeless were numerous in Paris underground But being in OTTAWA and reading some bloggers feedback, I realized that it is a reel problem in North American big cities!
agreed we were also shocked to see homeless people just a few streets away from parliament... I thought if all else fails, at least the capital city is kept well taken care of.
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Thanks for sharing
Silly video, most of these problems apply to any large major metropolitan city…
Yup
Toronto is definitely not for me. I prefer the smaller Canadian cities
Smaller cities have so much to offer indeed!
@@MakeThatChange yes and I do believe that it pays to get to know the cities as much as you can. Each ha sits own vibe and character. I've been to Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. All 3 are different and I don't feel that I would want to live there though I don't mind visiting Montreal. Furthermore Ive experienced Canadian winters and can handle it. I once drove from Fredericton to Toronto stopping over Montreal, in winter and got caught in a white out blizzard on the way back. Not recommended. Have also taken a train to Montreal from Halifax. Quite pleasant. Passed through beautiful Quebec City. I miss Canada a great deal and intend to migrate when conditions in Canada improve
thank you for sharing this Azrai!
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@@MakeThatChangewhat about restaurants and warehouse job for someone in their 20s
toronto does not define Canada but Asia ( India ) Define the whole world ? You mean China and Inda ... plus crimes, no internet in the subway, people are sharing houses to survive , USA Car culture , Toronto is the only city in Canada that includes cities as far as 140 km away ( Niagara ) on the Greater Toronto which does not make any sense .. Toronto has also a lot of homeless , crimes in public transport , horrible old subway and the city has no soul ,
If you are a WHINER, don’t leave in Toronto!
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lol! Good Lord .... the same old cliche that Toronto has "no soul." That tired old chestnut has been used by Montrealers since the 1930s. Toronto is the most multicultural city in the world with plenty to see and do .... "no fun" in Toronto lol! Your video has lost all credibility.
Funny you say that. I used to think that too, until I traveled more and realized how much Toronto lags behind other North American metropolitan cities. It’s all about perspective.
I've travelled extensively ... (was a travel writer for a while). European cities are great ... as far as North America cities go Toronto holds it's own ... yes, my perspective is different ... old enough to have been established for a while so the cost of Toronto doesn't affect me. But as far as "transactional romance" and "no fun" "no soul" ... well, as I said ... old chestnuts that have become tiring. Montreal's Old Town is magnificent ... but the rest of the city is nothing special ... I was there last summer ... had a great time. Enjoy your time in the GTA ... I grew up in Willowdale, lived in the city core for about 15 years and now I'm in Whitby.
Thank you from fellow Whitby neighbours 😉
@@MakeThatChange lol!! See ... there's something for everybody in the Toronto area. I enjoy where I live now but if I want to go to a concert, a game, museum etc. I just jump on the GO Train!!