I mean, China has no labor cost, so they literally melt down our garbage and sell it back to us. It's called "pot metal" because they just throw whatever scrap they pick up into a pot and melt it. I can buy a pretty wide array of Chinese tools and equipment that are cheaper to ship overseas to the US than it is for me to just buy the steel it's made from.
@@brockoffnetjetszz6699 I don't think I've ever had paper clips on my desk. I'm not even sure I've ever used a paper clip, actually, never saw the point. I either want the papers to stay permanently together, in which case I'll staple them, or I don't. And very few of my papers are actual papers and not digital.
Hanlon's razor is endlessly abused by the powerful and unwittingly believed by the exploited. It's time for the world to let it go and see evil for what it is. Sorry for the off topic, I just despise Hanlon's razor.
If you spend more than a few hours with other people each day, in a setting where you are privy to their decisions, and you DON'T believe Hanlon's Razor, then you're an example of it.
I stayed at an Airbnb a couple months ago. Right before bed time, my kids managed to lock the door to the second floor (where all the bedrooms were). We asked the owners where we might find the keys, and they said there aren't any. I called a local 24-hour locksmith and they quoted an absolutely ridiculous price to come and pick the lock. Then I remembered the lessons from the lock picking lawyer, and got the door opened in about 30 seconds, using a steak knife from the kitchen. Thanks, Lock Picking Lawyer!
@@ban_tik_tok no idea, but I remembered a tool LPL was showing off for opening commercial doors, where he would basically stick a thin piece of metal between the doors and move the latch. So that's all I did, just stuck the knife between the door and the frame, and wiggled it about until the latch retracted. I didn't pick the actual locking mechanism with the knife.
Hey I have the same story! only I used a piece of soda can to shim between the door & the frame. Finally countless LPL's videos I've watched were put to use 😊
Me: Oh wow, a LPL video that's more than a minute, maybe the safe has something to it. LPL: Opens the safe with a tool, multiple bits of trash, and adds a behind the scenes section.
@@nooboftheyear7170 yeah 30 seconds to introduce the lock 10 seconds to open the lock usually twice to show not a fluke and 20 seconds to close out the video
LPL: "This is the lockpicking lawyer..." Lock: "Yeah, yeah, I will open up voluntarily!" *klick* LPL: "One more time, so people can see it was not a fluke!"
I really want to make an electronic safe that has a microphone and literally opens when it hears the phrase "This is the lockpicking lawyer". I unfortunately don't have the skills to make it happen though
when i see locks, i usually think "oh, that's some clever mechanism". This is one of the first ones that made think "is this a grade school arts and craft project?"
Exactly what I thought as well. And it seems to have so much give when you turn the knob while it’s „locked“, that I would imagine you could open it by applying just a little bit of excess turning force to the knob.
"Chances are you have something in your TRASH right now that will work" - this quote is going up on my refrigerator as I feel that it applies to so very many things in my Life lately!
All I can say is that is nice that the designers made such a lovely decoy safe so you can stash your valuables somewhere a bit safer, like under the mattress perhaps?
Somebody meant in a fake piece of plastic piping behind your sink. Really - nobody checks the piping if one of them pipes is lose and filled with valuables...
If you place your valuables directly on the floor it would be safer, because thief will need to collect them individually - comparing it to safe from video that provides a nice container.
When he said “let’s do that one more time,” I legit blinked and missed it the first time. I backed up 10 seconds and almost missed the first pick again. That was smooth.
I once locked myself, car keys and all my tools out of a house I was working in. Nobody home of course. Only thing I had on me were cigarettes and Redbull. Twisted the can apart, made a sort of wedge and opened the front door like so.
Well, he just failed step one... not be seen and 2 be noticed..Defense in depth is the best way to do things and not rely on any one thing to be secure.
As a feedback: I love when you take the extra time to take apart the object and show WHY an exploit works. Unfortunately oftentimes you avoid that and it'll be nice if you did this more often
Usually he doesn't show how an exploit works if he's showed it before on a different lock. Sometimes he may if it's been a super long time, but otherwise, you may just have to dig through his catalog of videos.
Still waiting for the LPL book "Not a Fluke" which shows diagrams and history of each type of lock, their strenghths and weaknesses,and the recommended picks and techniques used to defeat the lock. The videos are great, but the covert companion needs this book as a companion. Make it happen please.
Actually, all one needs to do is to open up LPL's CZcams channel on a mobile device. It saves paper and printing resources which might end up in landfill if a book is created!
This video has just reminded me why CZcams recommended this channel years ago. I had lost the key to my own safe, so I went to the net to find out if there was an easy exploit to opening it, and there was. I cannot remember what it was, but it was something similar to this. Thanks LPL for your great content
If I had a nickel for every time LockPickingLawyer picked a safe with a bottle of orange juice, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Yeah, but how many thieves carry empty orange juice or RedBull cans with them? If so then the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate!
I agree. Even without the exploit gap, there is so much slop in the fitment of that solenoid, that I can imagine slamming the thing down on a hard surface while turning the opening knob might work. Or it might just shatter something and make the whole safe only good for metal recycling.
Since the spring on the solenoid is weak you can also just turn it upside down on similar models and hit it while turning the dial. Opens most times way too easy. Great video!
I love that the video title includes "Costway", "safe" and "opened" so this video can easily be found with an internet search. Costway earned that infamy.
The safe's manufacture date was 2020, well after LPL became well-known. They had to have been thinking "there's no way he'll come across our piece of crap. Let's go with it."
The first time it opened it was so quick, I genuinely wanted to see it again. I'm sure it wasn't a fluke, but, just wow. If I owned one of these I think I'd use a pick just because it's so quick and easy! As for what were they thinking I imagine it was something like "how awesome is this integrated keypad, fingerprint reader, knob thingy we made! Send it!"
You can also open that by bouncing it on the couch with a properly timed turn of the knob (and probably many other ways to get the solenoid to move). The momentum of the solenoid will pull it down when it bounces. We opened a different brand safe (but similar mechanism) this way when my friend had trouble with the combination.
The person that designed it had a specific tumbler mechanism in mind. When the finance people found there was a cheaper one that did the same thing, they went with that one.
Yes. Thats what I thought. Its great that the cylinder is fixed to a plate inside and not directly to the door to recess it away from being turned with pliers etc, but its chamfered part doesnt fit up or fill the hole in the door enough. I think the finance dept made the same mistake/alteration with the solenoid too as the solenoid is too short to do its job properly.
First things first, I'm glad to see a returning guest, Red Bull can! Second, with how stupid people seem to be getting, and how bad companies are about putting profit over everything else, I really can't decide if it was intentional or just the kind of incompetence I've learned to expect from corporations
I doubt the bypass was intentional. Probably just really poor design or they used a cheaper lock than the original design had but forgot to notice it didnt fill up the hole space in the door. Similarly, its possible that they used a cheaper shorter solenoid too which doesnt do much of a job blocking that mechanism. BUT... This type of design where its easy to pry off the knob and use a lever to force it open is intentional. So avoid this type of 'safe'.
The fault of Capitalism is that it relies on consumers to have some degree of intelligence to be able to ascertain the difference between products of value and trash. The foil of companies trying to turn a profit is supposed to be consumers not buying products they determine are not worth their money. But when consumers are too inept to make that distinction (or even bother _trying_ to make that distinction), we are left with companies putting out products made of cheap materials at high prices with reason for the prices to be competitive.
@@R3_Live Every system suffers when its participants are ignorant, not just capitalism. Luckily, other people buying shitty products doesn't mean you have to as well.
@@R3_Live truth in advertising is suppose to help that but seeing as how lock companies can put "pick proof, maximum security, etc etc" buzzwords that dont mean anything but fools dumb people into buying their product. Government is suppose to be cracking down on that type of stuff but they don't care since a dumb populace is what they want
I think you wrote exactly what is the problem. What standard? Is there some agency for lock security that will mark your lock as 1/10, 5/10, 7/10? There is something for water/dust resistance. You can see it on a lot of electronics, my phone has IP 68, so it should survive in water for hours. But is there something like that for locks? I don't think so, so any company can write "pick proof" or "10/10 secure" or anything like that and face no consequences.
@@simonspacek3670 In US? Probably nah. But in my country safes can be submitted by manufacturer to be certified. The safe is tested whether it meets the requirements laid out in norms and receives a rating based on that. In fact if you are, for example, a gun owner you are required to store the guns in a safe with a certain rating or better. The result is that even in the budget market you have some pretty decent safes. I own two (small and big one) and I see absolutely no way of getting into them other than picking the lock or actually destroying the safe. Speaking of which, i would love to see LPL pick the kind of lock that is required on those...
It's surprising how bad things are when look behind the curtains of any industry. I can tell you that a lot of software (that's my industry) is shockingly bad even for important systems where you would expect high standards.
The effort placed in the balance, tolerances, and precision of the machined parts and components to allow such smooth movement that a strip of plastic can operate the mechanism suggests great care and detail into the design of this master class piece of s***.
Woo! I love it when the 'random things I found in my trash-can' comes in! :D It's one thing to say that a lock can be defeated with a low-skill attack, but let's face it, not everyone has a wave-rake or tubular lock pick lying around. When you can do it *literally* using some random junk, that's when you know you've got a real 'winner' on your hands!
A crappy safe like that would never keep an actual criminal out anyway, even if you couldn't pick or bypass the lock. It's only use is to keep honest people from opening it.
With how that solenoid is angled, I wonder if you could put tension on the latch knob and just vibrate the safe to slowly creep the solenoid into the down position.
Looking at how little of the solenoid is engaged by the bolt, you can likely brute force it with a pipe wrench on the locking ring. Maybe even channel locks.
Hey LPL! Loved the "behind the scenes" showing how the selenoid lock works...is there a possibility that you can show us the inside of a lock that you pick in the more "traditional" way? (Like when you say "Nothing on one, there's two....") That would be incredible! Thank you!
I know he has some instructional videos out with cut away locks so you can see what is happening, check his playlists. There are others who have put out instructional videos using cut away locks also
It appears that you will have a never ending supply of content for your channel as more badly designed products appear on the marketplace .. keep up the good work!
This safe is almost what I would expect the answer for an age old question "How bad would a safe be if the safe manufactures marketing department made it?"
Seeing how loose that solenoid is I am guessing one can very easily open the safe by bouncing it on a bed or even just tapping the top with a mallet (or old phone book).
I was just wondering the same thing because the spring doesn't seem all that strong. But, I was thinking about perhaps holding the safe a few inches above whatever surface it's on, and then while turning the knob to apply light pressure, set it down hard so that the downward momentum causes the solenoid to continue moving downward (it doesn't need to go down that far, what 1 mm, maybe 2 mm?).
Always fascinating how LPL finds even worse products. I am waiting for "High security safe opened with a week-old doughnut" ;-) Love the explanation of the mechanics!
That would be the one where he fools the fingerprint recognition system with the powder from the doughnut and scotch tape, aka 'lifting a print'. 😁 But that's too slow and cumbersome a method for the LPL.
Hi LPL! Another great video as always. A while back I saw a video titled "A 3D Printed Unpickable Lock" from a channel named "Tim Hutt" and the designer said in the comments they'd sent it to you to have a crack at. Did you get it? I'd love to see your thoughts on it!
I have a feeling that brute force would open this, if you just turned the dial hard enough. Either the "bolt" section of metal that hits the solenoid rod would buckle, or it would shear off to the side, around the curve of the cylinder. If you don't care about destroying the Costway, it would be interesting to see a video of what happens when you just force the dial as hard as possible, perhaps using a belt as a makeshift strap wrench, to stick with the theme of "improvised" solutions...
It seems to me that dropping it might temporarily push that spring down far enough that you can unlock it. Unless the spring is much stronger than it looked, but then the red bull can probably wouldn't have worked since it seemed pretty flimsy.
I've been watching and enjoying your videos for a while now. It amazes me to see how many poorly designed systems are out there that put the unaware consumers at risk for loss. It looks like you will not run out of material for your videos! Thanks for the education and entertainment!!!
My guess is that the design originally used a longer lock body that avoided creating a gap. I used to work with a lot of these types of locks and there was a wide variety of lengths, mounting styles and tabs available.
The suspended walkways at the Kansas City Hyatt-Regency came down (1981), killing 114 people and injuring 216. The cause was a seemingly minor design change, made to simplify construction. It doubled the load on a series of suspension points.
Thanks to take the time to explain the why. And yes, it is indeed very suspect that they left a gap, specially considering that it take more material probably to make that gap than not having that gap!
Looking forward to browse the newest intallments in Covert Instruments: Juice. I hope there'll be different kinds even if flavour won't have a practical impact.
I lived on a large multifamily development with central cluster stand mailboxes installed sometime in the late 1990s. The USPS, not the property management, issued the keys to the residents on "turnovers" and changed the locks each time (or so the local Post Office claimed). Individual mailboxes in the clusters got broken into quite regularly because the lock on the "customer side" had a round body which went through a round hole and was held via friction with spring clip on the inside. A screwdriver in the key slot would rotate the entire lock body - along with the lever that prevented the door from opening!!! The thieves would open every mailbox could open them more quickly with a screwdriver than they could have done with the keys -- even if they were all keyed the same so only one key was needed. I assumed this _must_ be an intentional "flaw" as it was _SO_ easy to have prevented and was _SO_ obviously insecure. These were, at the time of installation, USPS approved. Perhaps it was done this way to make it easier for the USPS to switch locks when one resident moved out. Even without a key, they could change the lock from the "front" instead of opening the large back with their "arrow key" and then reach in through the "tunnel" of the small mailbox (~12" deep?) to the lock from the backside and pop the clip off. Amazingly, last I looked, those same mailboxes were still installed and still had the same flaw. When I lived there, I considered cutting a piece of metal and sliding it over the lock body inside in an area where it _wasn't_ round and "key" it to the door so the screwdriver trick wouldn't work -- but I wasn't sure that it wasn't a federal crime to alter a USPS owned "security" device.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." I can also imagine a lot of scenarios where workers saw this issue and were told they aren't smarter than the engineer and just do your job...
I have followed your channel for quite a while and love the ease in your delivery and talent at opening virtually anything I opened my first door lock yesterday I don’t know who was more surprised the lock or me 😂😂
I have another theory: The ppl who designed this thing wanted something way safer but slightly more expensive to produce (like super tight tolerances or some sort of sleave for the lock)... But then their design went through process optimisation and the bean counters decided the extra work was unnecessary (probably bc they didn't understand why it was designed that way) and nobody checked back on potential problems with such changes to the design. (:
Yeah, this looks like a very cheap and simple solution that was meant for better tolerances to actually work. Maybe not well, but that's beside the point :D
As someone who used to build safes back in the deepest depths of time, I find that after watching this video, I now have to be treated for a very deep handprint on my face from facepalming so hard. I once made a small safe/lockbox for myself (out of scraps, with permission, paid for the lock itself) and brought it home. Wifey thought she'd be cute and changed the combination, but wasn't paying close enough attention when she set the new combo, and what she wrote down did not match what she actually set it to. After many hours of trying, she gave up and I had to actually destroy the door of the box to open it. I managed to do so without harming the lock unit itself (the real expensive part), but I did have to pay for material to remake the door. My supervisor was not pleased with me, and I stored the combination reset key elsewhere from then on. I still have the safe, many, many decades later.
@@SianaGearz These were banking safes. 100 number dial, 3 to 5 numbers needed. Potential for time locks as well. Mine is a 3, but you vastly underestimate the time required to try all possible combinations. For a 3 number combo, it's 100^3 or 100,000 possible combinations. As it's actual banking equipment, if you're off by just a fraction of a number on the dial, that attempt is invalid. So say one number is 52, and you get just a tad sloppy and dial 52.125. Nope, not yours, thanks for trying, please dial again. This is not the junk a consumer could buy, this is the kind of gear you find protecting, for example, a diamond exchange. I suspect when she set the new combo she got sloppy and set one or more numbers just a bit off the mark. While I was there, we actually made one for a diamond exchange. It was about the size of a refrigerator, but due to its construction, the owner of the company rejected over 25 semi-trailers (flatbed) as insufficient to hold the load. It took a brand-new one, and when they placed it on the trailer, it not only flattened the arch, but actually reversed it a bit. If you don't know what I mean, a new flatbed trailer empty and 'level' will have an upwards arch, such that the center is higher from the ground than either end. This increases the load capacity of the trailer. Flattened that sucker right out, and bent the center downwards. I can't even imagine how much it weighed, but the forklift we used was ungodly massive, and we had to have a lot of additional weight on the rear to keep the forks off the ground.
Seems like such an easy fix to put a ridge around the cylinder mount. It would seem reasonable to assume the designers don't have a lock picker or security expert of some sort on staff or even hired occasionally to double check their designs
Thank you for showing the innards of the lock and what happens inside the lock when you pick it. It would be interesting to see the insides of other locks as you pick them.
Looks like even I could work my way into that one -- LOL!!?! Thank you LPL for showing us that "security" is only an illusion. Our trust is often misplaced in products that don't measure up to even the smallest expectations. Cheers -- Jason
Many of these safes that use a solenoid can be opened by giving them a good thump on top when you turn the handle or if not fixed in place, lift 1 end an inch or 2 and drop it when you turn the handle.
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The amount of raw materials used to create, ship and sell junk always surprises me.
It is amazing.
✨capitalism breeds innovation ✨
You just described China's business model
I mean, China has no labor cost, so they literally melt down our garbage and sell it back to us. It's called "pot metal" because they just throw whatever scrap they pick up into a pot and melt it. I can buy a pretty wide array of Chinese tools and equipment that are cheaper to ship overseas to the US than it is for me to just buy the steel it's made from.
@@tasteslikepennies2549 oh for real?
When it's actually faster to open your safe with random bits of trash than with the electronic panel.
idk I'd probably take forever to cut a strip off a plastic bottle
Especially, given that a ten cent washer would've protected against this exploit.
@@limiv5272 but then you could reuse the bit you cut from it as many times as you want
@@limiv5272paper clip off your desk lol
@@brockoffnetjetszz6699 I don't think I've ever had paper clips on my desk. I'm not even sure I've ever used a paper clip, actually, never saw the point. I either want the papers to stay permanently together, in which case I'll staple them, or I don't. And very few of my papers are actual papers and not digital.
Don't forget about Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
That’s a fair point, but I I’m not sure that it’s possible to be this stupid, and still breathe.
Hanlon's razor is endlessly abused by the powerful and unwittingly believed by the exploited. It's time for the world to let it go and see evil for what it is.
Sorry for the off topic, I just despise Hanlon's razor.
@@lockpickinglawyer I have the impression that the manufacturers usually don't really care about the back-up locks.
If you spend more than a few hours with other people each day, in a setting where you are privy to their decisions, and you DON'T believe Hanlon's Razor, then you're an example of it.
Hanlon's Razor is the most consistently disproven axiom
I stayed at an Airbnb a couple months ago. Right before bed time, my kids managed to lock the door to the second floor (where all the bedrooms were). We asked the owners where we might find the keys, and they said there aren't any. I called a local 24-hour locksmith and they quoted an absolutely ridiculous price to come and pick the lock. Then I remembered the lessons from the lock picking lawyer, and got the door opened in about 30 seconds, using a steak knife from the kitchen. Thanks, Lock Picking Lawyer!
WAIT WAIT... what kind of lock was it⁉️🤔
@@ban_tik_tok no idea, but I remembered a tool LPL was showing off for opening commercial doors, where he would basically stick a thin piece of metal between the doors and move the latch. So that's all I did, just stuck the knife between the door and the frame, and wiggled it about until the latch retracted. I didn't pick the actual locking mechanism with the knife.
@@MrVovansimI keep an old Walmart giftcard in my wallet for this. Works better without the potential danger of the blade.
Hey I have the same story! only I used a piece of soda can to shim between the door & the frame. Finally countless LPL's videos I've watched were put to use 😊
@@user-zi8jn1go8k My son thinks he's so smart when he locks himself in his room to avoid getting in trouble lol.
Me: Oh wow, a LPL video that's more than a minute, maybe the safe has something to it.
LPL: Opens the safe with a tool, multiple bits of trash, and adds a behind the scenes section.
60?!?
@@nooboftheyear7170 yeah 30 seconds to introduce the lock 10 seconds to open the lock usually twice to show not a fluke and 20 seconds to close out the video
@@BlitzerXYZ add maybe another 10 seconds for a covert companion plug
i love these dissasembly videos
This was almost going GoT on the thing. Stripped it naked and paraded it through the streets shouting "Shame! Shame!".
LPL: "This is the lockpicking lawyer..."
Lock: "Yeah, yeah, I will open up voluntarily!" *klick*
LPL: "One more time, so people can see it was not a fluke!"
😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'd love to see an actual fluke! just ONCE :D
@@ewerybody I bet those only might exist in April fools uploads.
I really want to make an electronic safe that has a microphone and literally opens when it hears the phrase "This is the lockpicking lawyer". I unfortunately don't have the skills to make it happen though
You should open this safe using it's own packaging! 😂
that would be a violation of nature😂
I bet its harder to unpack than unlock !
The box is more secure than the safe!
LPL is rapidly approaching a critical mass of lockpicking power where all locks near him will just telekinetically open.
The guy's a sonic screwdriver incarnate. (I believe there 's an upcoming Doctor Who episode about just that.)
There was that one time he used a magnet to open a lock without touching it
@@francisboyle1739 Can't wait to see him unlocking the tardis with a parperclip (maybe for an april 1st video ?)
I need to prototype a (fake) lock that opens upon hearing the phrase "This it the lock picking lawyer"
One of these days I hope to see LPL visit a fishmonger to get some bones from a fluke and use THEM to open locks. "This time it indeed IS a fluke..."
Underrated comment!!
I wanna see this happening^^
I mean, there's a decent chance that would work here...
This one definitely deserves a /rimshot. XD
Or use a piece of FLUKE-branded measuring equipment to decode / bypass some electronic mechanism...?
It never gets old watching this guy open safes with random bits of trash.
You mean he opens trash with trash... 🤷🏻♂️😁
That looks like you could open it via the dial by cranking really hard.
The twig was my favourite.
"Something thin and rigid" I'm feeling called out
@@bmxerkrantz no the crap dial would break first
I was absolutely not ready for the pick to shyly peek its way through the hole and gently press the plate down like a tiny finger. Had me cackling 😂
So funny 😂
Thinking about you cackling got me cackling as well.. we would make a coven full of mirth 🧙♀️
Saaaaaaaame!
Huh? It was entirely set up for this. He even said he was going to do that before he did it?
How could you not have been ready?!?
@@oggyoggy1299 that went wayyyyyyyy over your head, didn’t it?
I like the three huge rods that look secure from the outside, but are just tacked onto a flat piece of steel inside the door
More proof of my theory that this safe is designed to BE SOLD, not to actually be secure.
I used to think that breaking out the wave rake was the biggest insult to the lock makers, but then LPL breaks out the juice bottle. Well played, sir.
No. The comb is worse. The wave rake is a bit of luck and simple skill. The comb is just insert, lift, open. Not even a turning tool.
I still think the ones opened with a twig or LEGO minifigure were the most insulting. Though a suitable twig could probably open this one too.
Yes, the wave rake is something purchased for this task. Sending you to check your trash can for something that will work 1:20 is a new level.
Don't forget the piss hammer
RED BULL
Dr. House:”it’s never lupus”
LPL: “It’s never a fluke”
Popehat: "It's never RICO."
Just once, I would like to see LPL say: "I'll do it again to prove it wasn't a fluke" then not be able to open it. 😂
when i see locks, i usually think "oh, that's some clever mechanism". This is one of the first ones that made think "is this a grade school arts and craft project?"
So You are new in this channel?... ;)
Ristar!
I think a safer version could be made with lego.
Right?? The bar that kept it from opening while locked looked just barely tall enough to even stop it.
Exactly what I thought as well. And it seems to have so much give when you turn the knob while it’s „locked“, that I would imagine you could open it by applying just a little bit of excess turning force to the knob.
"Chances are you have something in your TRASH right now that will work" - this quote is going up on my refrigerator as I feel that it applies to so very many things in my Life lately!
"Honey, do you have container to put these leftovers in?
..... "uh, yeah just found one"
"Hey honey where is the remote control?"
"Uh use this orange juice container babe".
I shimmed a bearing with a coke can once. It worked.
When really the juice bottle should have been in the recycling, not the trash
Best response, and a testament to the times we're living in.
The gap is there for rapid access. Those cheap fingerprint readers are slower than molasses.
Or, access if you forget to bring your fingerprint.
@@robertbamford8266 Still a form of rapid access
@@robertbamford8266 I so hate it when i forget my fingerprints in my other body.
@@Llortnerof I always keep a spare fingerprint in a safe location (not inside this safe).
Always hilarious when the bypass is faster than opening it normally would be.
All I can say is that is nice that the designers made such a lovely decoy safe so you can stash your valuables somewhere a bit safer, like under the mattress perhaps?
Or on the coffee table in the living room
Somebody meant in a fake piece of plastic piping behind your sink. Really - nobody checks the piping if one of them pipes is lose and filled with valuables...
@@robertnett9793 that seems like an unironically good plan.
If you place your valuables directly on the floor it would be safer, because thief will need to collect them individually - comparing it to safe from video that provides a nice container.
Or go John Wick style and cement it in under the basement floor.
When he said “let’s do that one more time,” I legit blinked and missed it the first time. I backed up 10 seconds and almost missed the first pick again. That was smooth.
same, i literally legit missed the first time too. that's crazy
I once locked myself, car keys and all my tools out of a house I was working in. Nobody home of course. Only thing I had on me were cigarettes and Redbull. Twisted the can apart, made a sort of wedge and opened the front door like so.
Lol me too.
I was looking at the fingerprint scanner but DIDN'T see the pic go into the hole the first time WHATSOEVER lol.
LPL calmly approaches fort nox with paper straw, a cig butt he found the ground and a twig. The security watching him on feed: "oh no"
Well, he just failed step one... not be seen and 2 be noticed..Defense in depth is the best way to do things and not rely on any one thing to be secure.
For everybody on the planet, that's just trash... For the lock picking lawyer it's called going equipped to steal... 😂
@@wolphin732 and what they gonna do? LOCK him up in prison?
Where do you think MacGuyver learned his lessons?
LPL
"Don't mind me, just heading down to the garage..."
As a feedback: I love when you take the extra time to take apart the object and show WHY an exploit works. Unfortunately oftentimes you avoid that and it'll be nice if you did this more often
This. I enjoy the behind the scenes when it is possible.
Usually he doesn't show how an exploit works if he's showed it before on a different lock. Sometimes he may if it's been a super long time, but otherwise, you may just have to dig through his catalog of videos.
He's got 5 videos with "inside perspective" in the title (maybe should make those into a playlist). Check those out.
he spoke about this a while back on some other channel, he reduced the length of the videos so people would have time to watch them.
@@terrymiller1512 I'm familiar with his philosophy but like in this case the extra information is well worth the extra couple of minutes
Still waiting for the LPL book "Not a Fluke" which shows diagrams and history of each type of lock, their strenghths and weaknesses,and the recommended picks and techniques used to defeat the lock.
The videos are great, but the covert companion needs this book as a companion. Make it happen please.
Ohhh, good idea! I'd also like a "Not a Fluke" sticker for my multimeter.
...or 'Not A Fluke...This is a Fluke' with an included picture of the parasitic worm. Id stick that on my picking tools box.
Do you remember the ad many years ago by that electronics equipment company?
"If it works, it's a Fluke!"
Actually, all one needs to do is to open up LPL's CZcams channel on a mobile device. It saves paper and printing resources which might end up in landfill if a book is created!
So the book would be a Covert Companion companion? (:
This video has just reminded me why CZcams recommended this channel years ago.
I had lost the key to my own safe, so I went to the net to find out if there was an easy exploit to opening it, and there was.
I cannot remember what it was, but it was something similar to this.
Thanks LPL for your great content
The thing that always gets me about these particular videos is just how little pressure is needed to move the necessary piece aside.
If I had a nickel for every time LockPickingLawyer picked a safe with a bottle of orange juice, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
You could put the nickels in a quality safe
I understood that reference! 😄😛
I'd take a penny for every time he uses a Redbull can and probably be slightly richer.
Yeah, but how many thieves carry empty orange juice or RedBull cans with them? If so then the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate!
It’s not weird. He’s just showing that it’s not a fluke. :3
The lock design looks like something you would build in a school tech class in an hour
Exactly lol
Exactly my thoughts
And you wouldn’t get away with more than a D
... and you are limited to use some random trash on the table!
I agree. Even without the exploit gap, there is so much slop in the fitment of that solenoid, that I can imagine slamming the thing down on a hard surface while turning the opening knob might work.
Or it might just shatter something and make the whole safe only good for metal recycling.
Here I am thinking that somehow LPL used a fingerprint from the OJ bottle to open it... Little did I know it was so much simpler than that...
Since the spring on the solenoid is weak you can also just turn it upside down on similar models and hit it while turning the dial. Opens most times way too easy. Great video!
I love that the video title includes "Costway", "safe" and "opened" so this video can easily be found with an internet search. Costway earned that infamy.
The safe's manufacture date was 2020, well after LPL became well-known. They had to have been thinking "there's no way he'll come across our piece of crap. Let's go with it."
Or it was designed years ago and they still make them.
REALLY good article of CRAP for sale enquire within, oppen door an its a trashcan !
The first time it opened it was so quick, I genuinely wanted to see it again. I'm sure it wasn't a fluke, but, just wow. If I owned one of these I think I'd use a pick just because it's so quick and easy! As for what were they thinking I imagine it was something like "how awesome is this integrated keypad, fingerprint reader, knob thingy we made! Send it!"
Have you seen the episode about the gun holder from a police car? 3 ways (I think, maybe 4) to open it quicker and with less skill than using the key.
You can also open that by bouncing it on the couch with a properly timed turn of the knob (and probably many other ways to get the solenoid to move). The momentum of the solenoid will pull it down when it bounces. We opened a different brand safe (but similar mechanism) this way when my friend had trouble with the combination.
The person that designed it had a specific tumbler mechanism in mind. When the finance people found there was a cheaper one that did the same thing, they went with that one.
Yes. Thats what I thought. Its great that the cylinder is fixed to a plate inside and not directly to the door to recess it away from being turned with pliers etc, but its chamfered part doesnt fit up or fill the hole in the door enough. I think the finance dept made the same mistake/alteration with the solenoid too as the solenoid is too short to do its job properly.
First things first, I'm glad to see a returning guest, Red Bull can!
Second, with how stupid people seem to be getting, and how bad companies are about putting profit over everything else, I really can't decide if it was intentional or just the kind of incompetence I've learned to expect from corporations
I doubt the bypass was intentional. Probably just really poor design or they used a cheaper lock than the original design had but forgot to notice it didnt fill up the hole space in the door. Similarly, its possible that they used a cheaper shorter solenoid too which doesnt do much of a job blocking that mechanism. BUT... This type of design where its easy to pry off the knob and use a lever to force it open is intentional. So avoid this type of 'safe'.
that's what happens when the whole management group consists of the friends of the owner rather than having qualified people
The fault of Capitalism is that it relies on consumers to have some degree of intelligence to be able to ascertain the difference between products of value and trash. The foil of companies trying to turn a profit is supposed to be consumers not buying products they determine are not worth their money. But when consumers are too inept to make that distinction (or even bother _trying_ to make that distinction), we are left with companies putting out products made of cheap materials at high prices with reason for the prices to be competitive.
@@R3_Live Every system suffers when its participants are ignorant, not just capitalism. Luckily, other people buying shitty products doesn't mean you have to as well.
@@R3_Live truth in advertising is suppose to help that but seeing as how lock companies can put "pick proof, maximum security, etc etc" buzzwords that dont mean anything but fools dumb people into buying their product. Government is suppose to be cracking down on that type of stuff but they don't care since a dumb populace is what they want
I liked the "inside" scoop! It's nice to see the nuts and bolts of how the mechanisms are manipulated.
That is so insanely simple and easy to fix the issue. I cant believe their engineers just left it like that.
It’s shocking how low the standards are for these security devices. Thanks again LPL for the funny and informative review!
I think you wrote exactly what is the problem. What standard? Is there some agency for lock security that will mark your lock as 1/10, 5/10, 7/10? There is something for water/dust resistance. You can see it on a lot of electronics, my phone has IP 68, so it should survive in water for hours. But is there something like that for locks? I don't think so, so any company can write "pick proof" or "10/10 secure" or anything like that and face no consequences.
Bet it meets Commiefornia's DOJ requirements for handgun securment ...
@@simonspacek3670 In US? Probably nah. But in my country safes can be submitted by manufacturer to be certified. The safe is tested whether it meets the requirements laid out in norms and receives a rating based on that.
In fact if you are, for example, a gun owner you are required to store the guns in a safe with a certain rating or better.
The result is that even in the budget market you have some pretty decent safes. I own two (small and big one) and I see absolutely no way of getting into them other than picking the lock or actually destroying the safe. Speaking of which, i would love to see LPL pick the kind of lock that is required on those...
It's surprising how bad things are when look behind the curtains of any industry. I can tell you that a lot of software (that's my industry) is shockingly bad even for important systems where you would expect high standards.
@@lieutenantcoloneltanyavond8273 Well, LPL is American, so that is why those ratings mean nothing.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Hanlon’s razor at work, right here.
LPL, you are one person I would want on my team in the zombie apocalypse to deal with all those locked doors etc ! 🤣
The effort placed in the balance, tolerances, and precision of the machined parts and components to allow such smooth movement that a strip of plastic can operate the mechanism suggests great care and detail into the design of this master class piece of s***.
I loved being able to see the view from behind. I'm sure that's harder to accomplish with most locks, but I found it really informative!
Woo! I love it when the 'random things I found in my trash-can' comes in! :D It's one thing to say that a lock can be defeated with a low-skill attack, but let's face it, not everyone has a wave-rake or tubular lock pick lying around. When you can do it *literally* using some random junk, that's when you know you've got a real 'winner' on your hands!
A crappy safe like that would never keep an actual criminal out anyway, even if you couldn't pick or bypass the lock. It's only use is to keep honest people from opening it.
Personal favorite is the small twig attack method
I really liked the gun lock picked with a Lego man
i like the heavy-duty bolts on the side and the wimpy plate there attached to
"Never attribute to malice that which can be simply accounted for by incompetence" -Napoleon
It’s getting to the point where LPL says “if you tap the top with a pen, it just pops right open”
Coming up next: LPL opens a lock by breathing on it, thereby picking a lock with nothing but ASMR.
probably had that already
... and not just a pen.... here's a soda lid ... and an empty can .... yep they all work
I’m pretty sure he’s opened a lock box with a fork so he’s probably used a pen in an earlier episode.
what kind of pen?
With how that solenoid is angled, I wonder if you could put tension on the latch knob and just vibrate the safe to slowly creep the solenoid into the down position.
Bounce the safe and the it will drop that cheap solenoid pin easily. Time it right and twist the knob and it will open too
You could probably grab the knob with a pipe wrench and just force it open, give the flimsy construction
Manufacturing quality looks to be so good that most of these will open just by turning the knob.
Well... maybe not when brand new, but after some use.
Use a magnet
You cannot creep the solenoid into down position. The pin is spring loaded. That being said inertia works nicely.
“Pretty much anything thin and rigid…”
I gotchu
This video was so hilarious that it forced me to subscribe. I am quite sure I will not regret it. Well done Sir.🤣
The juice carton open is an absolute classic.
Looking at how little of the solenoid is engaged by the bolt, you can likely brute force it with a pipe wrench on the locking ring. Maybe even channel locks.
Or jig it enough by bashing the top of the safe with a full juice bottle whilst turning the knob.
The spring return is obviously not very strong. I bet it could be opened by the shock of dropping the front by an inch or two. See? No trash needed!
Looks like the solenoid has already started rotating too. Four anchor points but only used 2. That’s a savings.
Would a magnet work also?
@@MongooseTacticool Perhaps the magnet in the badge (he mentioned it was held on by a magnet). That would be funny.
That was the cleanest used orange juice carton I've ever seen, lmao.
Well done sir! Smooth, easy, and completely destroys the garbage being sold today.
I like when you show the inside of locks. Really helps see the problems :)
The LPL does not see 'problems' only opportunities 😂
Tubular lock be like:- Why are we still here just to suffer.
Hey LPL! Loved the "behind the scenes" showing how the selenoid lock works...is there a possibility that you can show us the inside of a lock that you pick in the more "traditional" way? (Like when you say "Nothing on one, there's two....") That would be incredible! Thank you!
I know he has some instructional videos out with cut away locks so you can see what is happening, check his playlists. There are others who have put out instructional videos using cut away locks also
It appears that you will have a never ending supply of content for your channel as more badly designed products appear on the marketplace .. keep up the good work!
I like how LPL manages to entertain me despite 5 repetitions
It gets better with every repitition 🤣
It's never a fluke!
This safe is almost what I would expect the answer for an age old question "How bad would a safe be if the safe manufactures marketing department made it?"
Costway: Nobody cracks our safes!
LPL: Hold my beer!
Absolutley BONKERS. as always I luv your videos!
Seeing how loose that solenoid is I am guessing one can very easily open the safe by bouncing it on a bed or even just tapping the top with a mallet (or old phone book).
I was just wondering the same thing because the spring doesn't seem all that strong. But, I was thinking about perhaps holding the safe a few inches above whatever surface it's on, and then while turning the knob to apply light pressure, set it down hard so that the downward momentum causes the solenoid to continue moving downward (it doesn't need to go down that far, what 1 mm, maybe 2 mm?).
or a nokia 3310, those things were built like bricks
How about a pineapple?
@@BitSmythe A Nokia is cheaper 🤣
A what-book? /s
Always fascinating how LPL finds even worse products.
I am waiting for "High security safe opened with a week-old doughnut" ;-)
Love the explanation of the mechanics!
To be fair, you'd need the stiffness of a month-old doughnut to open this Costway safe ... and who keeps doughnuts around for that long?
That would be the one where he fools the fingerprint recognition system with the powder from the doughnut and scotch tape, aka 'lifting a print'. 😁 But that's too slow and cumbersome a method for the LPL.
Hi LPL! Another great video as always. A while back I saw a video titled "A 3D Printed Unpickable Lock" from a channel named "Tim Hutt" and the designer said in the comments they'd sent it to you to have a crack at. Did you get it? I'd love to see your thoughts on it!
I have a feeling that brute force would open this, if you just turned the dial hard enough. Either the "bolt" section of metal that hits the solenoid rod would buckle, or it would shear off to the side, around the curve of the cylinder. If you don't care about destroying the Costway, it would be interesting to see a video of what happens when you just force the dial as hard as possible, perhaps using a belt as a makeshift strap wrench, to stick with the theme of "improvised" solutions...
It seems to me that dropping it might temporarily push that spring down far enough that you can unlock it. Unless the spring is much stronger than it looked, but then the red bull can probably wouldn't have worked since it seemed pretty flimsy.
Just when I thought security designs couldn't get any worse, you find this safe. Thanks for another expose
It only barely seems to hold back the lock as is, so I wouldn't be surprised.
the gun safe is worse.. opened with a FUCKING STICK FROM HIS FRONTYARD BUSH!
@@Thermalions yeah, that looked a lot like it'd wear and leave you with a safe that didn't stay closed.
I've been watching and enjoying your videos for a while now. It amazes me to see how many poorly designed systems are out there that put the unaware consumers at risk for loss. It looks like you will not run out of material for your videos! Thanks for the education and entertainment!!!
With the amount of Red Bull you get through I'm amazed how calm you always sound.
Soon to an “Amazon Choice” product!
My guess is that the design originally used a longer lock body that avoided creating a gap. I used to work with a lot of these types of locks and there was a wide variety of lengths, mounting styles and tabs available.
The suspended walkways at the Kansas City Hyatt-Regency came down (1981), killing 114 people and injuring 216. The cause was a seemingly minor design change, made to simplify construction. It doubled the load on a series of suspension points.
Thanks to take the time to explain the why.
And yes, it is indeed very suspect that they left a gap, specially considering that it take more material probably to make that gap than not having that gap!
Haha, you kill me with the ease you open these locks with. Cheers mate.
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I love the LPL videos where he opens the lock with literal trash.
Looking forward to browse the newest intallments in Covert Instruments: Juice. I hope there'll be different kinds even if flavour won't have a practical impact.
When the safe manufacturer finds out how you got in, they're going to be *SOL-ANNOYED* .
I lived on a large multifamily development with central cluster stand mailboxes installed sometime in the late 1990s. The USPS, not the property management, issued the keys to the residents on "turnovers" and changed the locks each time (or so the local Post Office claimed).
Individual mailboxes in the clusters got broken into quite regularly because the lock on the "customer side" had a round body which went through a round hole and was held via friction with spring clip on the inside. A screwdriver in the key slot would rotate the entire lock body - along with the lever that prevented the door from opening!!! The thieves would open every mailbox could open them more quickly with a screwdriver than they could have done with the keys -- even if they were all keyed the same so only one key was needed.
I assumed this _must_ be an intentional "flaw" as it was _SO_ easy to have prevented and was _SO_ obviously insecure. These were, at the time of installation, USPS approved.
Perhaps it was done this way to make it easier for the USPS to switch locks when one resident moved out. Even without a key, they could change the lock from the "front" instead of opening the large back with their "arrow key" and then reach in through the "tunnel" of the small mailbox (~12" deep?) to the lock from the backside and pop the clip off.
Amazingly, last I looked, those same mailboxes were still installed and still had the same flaw.
When I lived there, I considered cutting a piece of metal and sliding it over the lock body inside in an area where it _wasn't_ round and "key" it to the door so the screwdriver trick wouldn't work -- but I wasn't sure that it wasn't a federal crime to alter a USPS owned "security" device.
LPL is unironically one of the funniest guys on CZcams.
His April Fools videos are all classics! He's a great writer, and his dry delivery of lines is perfect.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
I can also imagine a lot of scenarios where workers saw this issue and were told they aren't smarter than the engineer and just do your job...
The issue here is adequately indeed. 😂
The first sentence is GOLD.
I have followed your channel for quite a while and love the ease in your delivery and talent at opening virtually anything
I opened my first door lock yesterday I don’t know who was more surprised the lock or me 😂😂
I have another theory:
The ppl who designed this thing wanted something way safer but slightly more expensive to produce (like super tight tolerances or some sort of sleave for the lock)... But then their design went through process optimisation and the bean counters decided the extra work was unnecessary (probably bc they didn't understand why it was designed that way) and nobody checked back on potential problems with such changes to the design. (:
Yeah, this looks like a very cheap and simple solution that was meant for better tolerances to actually work. Maybe not well, but that's beside the point :D
I'm not sure I've ever heard LPL use such strong words before and I've been following the channel for a while XD
So good.
As someone who used to build safes back in the deepest depths of time, I find that after watching this video, I now have to be treated for a very deep handprint on my face from facepalming so hard.
I once made a small safe/lockbox for myself (out of scraps, with permission, paid for the lock itself) and brought it home. Wifey thought she'd be cute and changed the combination, but wasn't paying close enough attention when she set the new combo, and what she wrote down did not match what she actually set it to.
After many hours of trying, she gave up and I had to actually destroy the door of the box to open it. I managed to do so without harming the lock unit itself (the real expensive part), but I did have to pay for material to remake the door. My supervisor was not pleased with me, and I stored the combination reset key elsewhere from then on. I still have the safe, many, many decades later.
Uhm it only takes 3 hours to try all possible combinations in order doesn't it?
You should have sent it to the LPL!
@@SianaGearz These were banking safes. 100 number dial, 3 to 5 numbers needed. Potential for time locks as well. Mine is a 3, but you vastly underestimate the time required to try all possible combinations. For a 3 number combo, it's 100^3 or 100,000 possible combinations. As it's actual banking equipment, if you're off by just a fraction of a number on the dial, that attempt is invalid. So say one number is 52, and you get just a tad sloppy and dial 52.125. Nope, not yours, thanks for trying, please dial again. This is not the junk a consumer could buy, this is the kind of gear you find protecting, for example, a diamond exchange. I suspect when she set the new combo she got sloppy and set one or more numbers just a bit off the mark.
While I was there, we actually made one for a diamond exchange. It was about the size of a refrigerator, but due to its construction, the owner of the company rejected over 25 semi-trailers (flatbed) as insufficient to hold the load. It took a brand-new one, and when they placed it on the trailer, it not only flattened the arch, but actually reversed it a bit.
If you don't know what I mean, a new flatbed trailer empty and 'level' will have an upwards arch, such that the center is higher from the ground than either end. This increases the load capacity of the trailer. Flattened that sucker right out, and bent the center downwards. I can't even imagine how much it weighed, but the forklift we used was ungodly massive, and we had to have a lot of additional weight on the rear to keep the forks off the ground.
@@OGSontar Ah, so that's why that lock was so expensive. Good stuff.
Seems like such an easy fix to put a ridge around the cylinder mount.
It would seem reasonable to assume the designers don't have a lock picker or security expert of some sort on staff or even hired occasionally to double check their designs
@Crudely Made: The one and only expert in the making of this safe was the cost cutting guy.
It's a nice looking decoy safe.
Dang, just when I thought I was going to get to use my C4, along comes Lpl with his juice bottle...🤯
Thank you for showing the innards of the lock and what happens inside the lock when you pick it. It would be interesting to see the insides of other locks as you pick them.
Oh no not again 😭
That is just...wow!
Costway could even easily put some kind of physical barrier behind the door to prevent that, but they are too lazy to do even that. Just.... wow.
Looks like even I could work my way into that one -- LOL!!?! Thank you LPL for showing us that "security" is only an illusion. Our trust is often misplaced in products that don't measure up to even the smallest expectations. Cheers -- Jason
Does this work with Monster Energy cans as well or just Red Bull?
If you’re drinking monster you can just punch a hole right through it
@@hamburger512 That would risk damaging the contents, Capitan!
You can open can with this safe
That juice carton strip also works great as a toothpick if you cut one end to form a sharp point.
'LPL upload new video'
*Literary every lock manufacturer shivering*
That looks like you could brute force that by using a large set of channel locks to turn the tumbler and overpower that solenoid.
I had this same thought, that solenoid is very weak looking.
Well, you can brute force it with a small piece of plastic, so that seems rather overkill.
Just when I think it couldn’t get any worse 😂 I’m face palming so hard rn
The return of the juice carton and Red Bull shim
Many of these safes that use a solenoid can be opened by giving them a good thump on top when you turn the handle or if not fixed in place, lift 1 end an inch or 2 and drop it when you turn the handle.
LPL: "Nobody can be that stupid."
Costway: "Hold my beer."