Guido Mista VS Hol Horse
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- JoJo's Bizarre Adventure discussion comparing two pistol wielding characters Hol Horse and Guido Mista to see who's stand is superior. Also included a death match at the end.
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Hol Horse is one of the coolest characters. In a world of time stops, time skipping, reversing damage, etc, his power is fucking GUN.
If only he'd been more competent or was less often foiled by plot armour.
IchCharacter I still enjoyed him as a character. His episode with Boing was pretty funny.
He was a pretty cool and funny character, all around. I just think he could have done a bit better, without being obstructed by the plot every other chapter.
My 『STAND』『A FUCKING GUN』
Kool Kid Kak NANI!!!!
I like how he says that Mista would easily win, even though in 99% of the fights Mista is in, his bullets end up hitting him
He doesn't die
he has "araki's favourite character" armor
@@furexu noice pic
Still the swiss cheese guy wins
i mean, he's 98% bullet shrapnel and even with 6 little shits begging for food all the time he'd probably win just because he's really good at surviving bullet wounds.
like bruh he survived 3 shots to the head because number 5 saved him.
Emperor: *Is a hecking gun*
Stats: B in range, take it or leave it
Also Emperor: *has aimbot*
Stats: e in precision
If Emperor really had an A, Hol wouldn't have to constantly redirect
@StartKnight 54 it's because the user is controlling the bullet and not the stand
@@s.a.l.t.4072 the bullet is part of the stand
@@Garfewloid Seriously,this excuse makes no sense bcuz many automatic targetting Stand also get an E in precision
Anthony plays01 but doesn’t he have to put bullets in the gun?
"A stand is a manifestation of one's own spirit..."
Hol Horse: G U N
Massive yeehaw energy
Fun fact: hol horse had the emperor ever since he was a kid
@@kasaundraf Bruh imagine having a gun as a kid
This post was made by the Canadian gang
*AMERICA*
@@coolkidmccool2769 Americans: not that hard to imagine
does he really fight THE ENTIRE HORSE?????
mistah would probably win unless the entire horse had j. geil with him. or even boingo.
Now, if Mista only fought one-fourth of the Horse, he would probably lose.
Hol horse secret mc of sbr confirmed1?
ENTIRE EQUINE
FULL FOAL
500th like
Is Hol Horse secretly a Joestar ?
After all, he knows Josephs secret technique.....
gasmanoo
And you can call him HoHo for short
@@troglodyte4207 HoHo's Bizarre Adventure, sounds like a title for Santa Clause
Johnwa Dwende Santa: Witness the power of my stand “Deck The Halls” the winter punching ghost
@@juswadweebus HoHo's Strange Escapades
Tide pods and Bleach Deck the Halls allow its user to travel to every house with a chimney at the speed of light
Mista: Feeds Sex Pistols salami
Guy on the street: “Yo why this guy putting meat in his gun”
that is a surprise tool that can help us later
Putting his meat in the gun lol
Mista: Gonna kill a Vegan.
*everyone laughs*
@@jakomioftherose2434Reminds me of those bullets made of pork that were intended to be used against Muslims to prevent them from going to heaven when they died.
We all know that the strongest gun user is
Joseph with tomy gun
overdrive
Yep
TOMMY GUN OVERDRIVE!!
Straits would agree.
* Joseph with sex pistols requiem
Imagine if Emperor had A in potential
Eventually it would just turn into a nuclear warhead launcher
Holy Horse with a nuke is a bad idea
Witness the absolute destructive power of my Stand!「Fat Man」!
A nuke who's trajectory he can control and he can control the explosion.
@@xForts
You're a bad idea
@@xForts HOLY HORSE EMPEROR OVER HEAVEN
Remember that time when Hol Horse was hit by his own bullet? EVEN THOUGH HE COULD STILL CONTROL IT?
yes i felt that was a horrible error. i expected for the ending for horse to betray dio and join the crussaders but that was almost impossible.
Well. Araki *almost* did that
+Saiphe another thing i expected was when this minor villain i dont remember the name turned polnareff into a kid if joseph would have fought that guy he could return to be to the best and kick this freaks ass in an epic way but didnt happen
It was Alessi with Seth. And yeah, i wished that too. At least we got that on Heritage for the Future
+Saiphe yes or have another joseph part in the second universe after stone ocean. another thing that would made part 4 my favorite would be that josuke could regenerate to a point that joseph would be like in part 2 again or at least regenerate his hand couls have the same effect
Imagine having to feed 6 tiny people just so your stand works
- this meme was made by the Emperor Gang
Imagine needing 6 entities as a stand to match a stand-GUN
This meme was also made by Emperor Gang
Imagine being hospitalized because your watch was fast
@@georgeruiz9211 imagine being scared of a number
Imagine being a missed main-cast character
Marco De Luna imagine not talking to your stand
Hol horse ain't an idiot, he knows when to quit, and i think more villains should do that.
Diavolo almost did save for his kingly pride
Yeah, because the part 3 end fight would be climactic if dio just said ‘aight, I’m out.’. This was a joke.
@@kegwa2002 Dio wasn't put in a situation where he would consider it. When Jotaro and Dio fought, Dio was put in a situation where it would be stupid to run, or where he couldn't have ran. At one point, Dio actually ran by stopping time to reach a speeding car to escape and reach Joseph's body. The next part where he wanted to run was when Jotaro stopped time, and broke his legs. If Dio tried to run after his legs recovered, then the blood he splattered on Jotaro's eyes would be gone before he could.
@@KiyanPocket I was speaking hypothetically, but yeah, I agree.
Hol Horse is fully aware of the drawbacks of his Stand, which is why he prefers working with a partner
Heres the reason as to why Hol Horse could easily defeat Mista every single time.
The Emperor is the 4th tarot card.
Johnny black damn you’re right... mista probably won’t even try to fight him
Damn I never thought about that
Mista seems to have forgotten about this fear in the anime, does he also forget in the manga?
Okay I get that
Edit May 26: Oh sh!t I have 4 likes
Edit 2: Good I’m still not unlucky
August 13: Ok I’m mad now why 44
September 29: 5 lines now
January 13: You guys are trying to trigger me
September 3: I’m backk
January 14: Bruh 400 likes
@@hassann07 You're the 4th reply.
(kids in kinder garden)
kid 1:my stand can explode any thing that it touches!
kid 2:MY STAND CAN STOP TIME AND PUNCH PEOPLE!
kid 3:my stand is a gun.
WELL my stand fixes AND PUNCHES THINGS
Manopla Guy I actually came up with a stand for Pumped up Kicks
What is it’s stand
what does it do
Boku No hero! Well it basicly paralyzes people with fear within the range of the user. The target will become hysteric but will not be able to move. Other stand users can be affected by Pumped up Kicks but theyre still able to use their stands. The targets will regain its movement when either PuK's user leaves the area, deactivates that ability, deactivates his stand, or is defeated
0: The Fool
I: The Magician
II: The High Priest
III: The Empress
*IV: The Emperor*
V: The Hierophant
VI: The Lovers
VII: The Chariot
VIII: The Justice
IX: The Hermit
X: The Fortune
XI: The Strength
XII: The Hanged Man
XIII: The Death
XIV: The Temperance
XV: The Devil
XVI: The Tower
XVII: The Star
XVIII: The Moon
XIX: The Sun
XX: Judgement
XXI: The World
Mista (Sex Pistols)
Hates number 4
The almost always bullets hit him in fights
Can change a bullet's trajectory by kicking it
Hol Horse ( *4* = The Emperor)
Infinite ammo
Brainless
Mista believe that he have bad luck (4: the emperor)
@ghirgabby he means the stand is brainless to use, dead easy
"Stands are physical manifestation of your soul"
Hol Horse's soul: *[Earrape Star Spangled Banner]*
Nah you thinking about Funny Valentine
Mista eats bullets that's how he is immune to them.
Maybe his torso and head eats his bullets yeah
Keep in mind that hol horses bullets are WAAAAY faster than silver chariot, possibly too fast for mista's stand to react.
@@justsomeone7883 off armor silver chariot can make a shadow clone so how fast can emperor be
@@sumting9769 well considering that silver chariot went head to head with star platinum and had one of his shoulder pads removed and that name is right side faster, I would say better star platinum speed y'know. And keep in mind star platinum can catch bullets when there fired, so hol horses bullets are faster than a regular bullet. But somebody explained in the comments that hol horse needs to concentrate on where his bullets are headed, they're not homing missiles.
When they both shoots, all the bullets went to mista
Well, Hol Horse is always number 2, so I can accept this.
Probably Dio this video makes me think that if hol horse and mista joined they would be an awesome team
Or if he joined the Crusaders he would be with Polraneff in Part 5 and be Mista's mentor
Probably Dio what was the song at the end
If he mentored Mista, Musta would've freaked the hell out because of his fear of 4 because 2 if too close to 4
4/2=2
4=/=3
I wish he would have change changed sides and helped polranff
1's last words before fighting Emperor: "Did that Bullet just do a U turn?"
Hol Horse's Last words before fighting Mista: "Did ya miss those shots on purpose?"
(Stand-wise)
Mista: Daniel
Hol' Horse: the cooler Daniel
If you say stand wise you could always say sex pistols and emperor
I want a buddy cop/spaghetti western movie starring Mista and Hol Horse working together.
p l e a s e
Y E S
Hol Horse unloads Emperor on the target and Sex Pistols just rebound the bullets between them and the target.
*get this message to araki*
Part 9 battle tendency 2 electric boogaloo,
*orange hued black and white postcard of Cairo and the supposed pillar men location*
Soo, this is the location *removes cigarette in his mouth* I hate sand, it’s all hot and dry and it gets everywhere* camera pans up to an agitated hol horse, alternate universe version*
What a pain in the ass
Well quiet down then it’s already annoying,*camera pans to the right, revealing a tired mista driving with a detective hat tipped slightly downward * Those two are sleeping, besides we’re gonna be driving.....
To be continued
A stand's weakness is ironically it's user
Honestly I'm still wondering HOW Hol Horse wasn't a legit treat in Part3. HE HAS A HOMING GUN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
Well like you said, its because hes Hol Horse
I believe Araki said in one of the Jojonium interviews that he planned on making Hol Horse join the main group, but A. His stand is kind of OP and B. It wouldn't have fit well after he (supposedly) killed avdol
so he made him a more sympathetic villain and made him incompetent.
xForts do you like Adeyum
Not only what Pyroniusburn said, but plot armor.
+Pyroniusburn for real??? that makes a lot of sense, during the enyaba arc, it felt like that almost was going to happen. that would've been pretty cool
"So, Six pistol is the same stand type of Emperor"
Other way around
5:14 gotta disagree, he gave number 5 a bullet in the giorno vs green tea and sanctuary battle, number 5 shot it through giornos hand without a gun.
The Pistols also redirected an incoming bullet that Sale shot back to his head and that's pretty impressive since they managed to turn a bullet 180 degrees around
Another point to remember is that Emperor can harm other Stands, since the bullet is part of the Stand, so it can hit Stands, not only their users, while Sex Pistols can't harm other Stands, since Stands can only be harmed by other Stands.
NataliaNeeSama. Fair point.. However, it isn't the Emperor that Sex Pistols is attacking, now is it? Vice versa, yes. But notice how Sex pistols has an A in precision, meaning that it can easily dodge a bullet coming from the Emperor.
The stats are pretty much bs either way, or unreliable, at best. Emperor's E in precision, as pointed out in the video, is nonsense, especially since Hol Horse can make the bullets fly however he wants them to, so long as he isn't being a goddamn idiot. And Sex Pistols might evade Emperor's bullets, but Mista probably couldn't. Also, A in precision doesn't do it any good at evading, if I'm not mistaken. C in speed would probably be too slow, since Emperor has a B in speed. Anyways, the real disadvantage of Mista would be that he requires certain objects, like his gun and bullets, otherwise Sex Pistols wouldn't do him much good against Emperor. Emperor is pretty much better in any category that isn't defence.
Precision =/= Speed. Speed would be evasion, Precision would have relatively little impact on evasion, if I'm not mistaken. Sex Pistols might be able to pinpoint where the attack would come from, but that doesn't mean it would be fast enough to dodge Emperor's bullets. Emperor is supposedly faster than Sex Pistols.
in VA Mista shooted Chariot Requiem
imo, mista doesn't really need his gun. because sex pistols can just carry the bullet. and sex pistols can carry other things too,which can make an advantage,but situationa
I believe that in your assessment of Hol Horse's character, you left out/missed one crucial detail. During Hol Horse's confrontation with Dio, where his first intention was only to report to him, Dio begins to turn on him, using his all too familiar charm and imposing aura (the same kind that he uses to control all those who he seemingly doesn't control with money or flesh buds, ex. Maria, N'doul, Enyaba) in an attempt to scare Hol Horse into submission. While this does spook him at first, when Dio dismisses him, seemingly expecting him to go sacrifice his life fighting the crusaders alone, he turns 'round and points his gun right at him. As Dio later appreciates, as Hol Horse did this his breathing was steady and his hands were still. Hol Horse had fully intended to unload his Emporer into his employers skull, while said employer was a *vampire* capable of controlling someone who can literally summon and command *The Sun*. What I want to convince you of is that while Hol Horse is cowardly at times, mostly when faced with unfavorable situations, when he is behind the barrel of his emporer he needs no partner. Sadly this idea of mine wasn't much touched on, but I regardless loved that scene.
One thing all Stand users have in common is that they all have strong will power and fighting spirit. Even those that seem cowardly on the surface like Hol Horse, Koichi and Pesci were still granted Stands because they do have strength and courage lurking within them.
I'm not even gonna read that.
@@Zetr0 yet you replied
@@Zetr0 tl;dr Hol Horse ain't a pussy when he's determined to do something
im sorry hol horse is still a pussy whip and can't do shit without people the only reason hol horse almost (sorry i said almost) attempted to kill dio was because he a pussy and was scared for his life. plus he had to think for a whole 5 minutes before he made his mind. someone like mista would attempt to kill dio before hol horse even thought of it. and btw mista would still win cause mista is a badass and is just better at guns then hol horse.
I think you forget that the times we see Hol Horse needing a partner, he was outnumbered to begin with; He ran after J Geil was killed and was up against both Kakyoin and Polnareff. He was spooked as three out of six Crusaders were heading towards him during his second meeting. The one time he wasn't outnumbered was against Dio himself
Mista's stand is so cute like its 6 little bratty bean babies😂
“The emperor has no recoil” shows gameplay where it has recoil immediately*
Finally someone recognizes that!
It’s less recoils of the gun and more of the motion of pulling the trigger. It’s likely that Hol Horse doesn’t have to worry about trigger control due to the bullets being a part of the stand. He can pull the trigger as fast/wildly as he wants, it will not effect his aim
@@lintroller919hol horse prolly tryna act cool
bruh u best not be disrespecting Hol Horse. He respects women.
What a villain
So is Mista
Fuck
He respects WHAMEN
Johnwa Dwende Trying to fuck a 15 year old isn’t respect
"Sex pistols is way more precise"
Meanwhile, emperor moved the bullet around no armor SC's sword within mili-seconds. And sex pistols misses most of the time
No to mention, Emperor has infinite ammo while mista has to reload constantly.
@@holyredeye381 yeah
It’s because of Mista’s terrible luck
Wtf you say mista always misses his shot?! He always had good aim to shoot himself
We all know Mista can easily win by shooting himself instead of the enemy because Mista is aware of his plot armor
I think the reason The Emperor has an E in precision is because the stand doesn't control the bullets, the user does. Therefore the precision is dependent on the user rather then the stand.
Then I guess that makes it easier for the user since he can freely control the bullet like a Mouse cursor
Mystic Gamer4252 the thing is he has to focus on the bullet which means he needs a main dps.
Jay Vwj spam
if he does control the bullets then howd the bullets go through the tube thingy all the way to jotaro without even looking
@@runby6053 That was Boingo.
Come on, Hol Horse isn't stupid, he's realistic. He knows that without immense amounts of preparation, his stand can only distract opponents for a few seconds before they get too close and end the engagement. That's why he always partners up with a stand user who can better utilize Hol's gun.
Nick Johnson he still sucks though
Ye he is one of my favorite villains
Nick Johnson In Jojo being realistic is stupid
Mista still can outwit him
How stupid is it that all the assassins that attacked the Stardust Crusaders by themselves? 1 vs 5 is never going to be good odds. He's the only character smart enough to realize he could try 2 vs 5. :p And lets not forget that he legit killed Avdol. It was only because the wroter decided that he didnt want to kill of Avdol that it turned out he Hol Horse failed.
My interpretation of the E in accuracy of Emperor is that the stand itself if fired normally (not using its power) is as accurate as Hol Horse is.
Hol Horse: “So it’s the same type of stand like The Emperor.”
It'd more than likely be a draw because they'd realize that they're actually father and son and have a heart warming reunion
AirOfSpace I'd kill myself
AirOfSpace
Nah I reckon Hol horse would just throw a woman at him and say it was his Mum (maybe it is not even he knows)
Jaxolotle he respect WAMEN
If Hol Horse was my deadbeat dad....the renunion would not be heartwarming.
Guido Hol Horse.
I just realized something, so Mista is literally a nerfed Hol Horse.
So would that make him half a horse or a quarter of a horse?
3/5 of a horse
Does that mean Hol Horse is the *WHOLE* Horse
No he just got stuck in a hol
QUARTER?!!??!!? ISNT THAT 1/"4"?!
No that makes him a half ass
We all know the strongest gun user is
Rudol von Stroheim using german science
Facts
the original was "Nazi Science" but it's more fun to yell German Science because it'll give you fewer weird looks
@@Snavels smart change
Mista: has little things aiming his shots
Hol horse: aims automatically to his enemys
@ur demon at 3:00 am )
It’s not an automatic aim, Hol Horse has to control his bullets
@@The_Olive_Dragon but he can respond fast enough to dodge the light speed sc his mind is fast enough to shoot the pistols individually
@@saiyanfang1047 Mista can aimbot through buildings and around walls he can't see though.
@@LiamFarleyMA doesn't really matter unless he has the element of surprise and even then his bullets and reaction time are off the charts even enough to dodge the light speed unarmored chariot
@@saiyanfang1047 I disagree, any time where hol horse doesn't have line of sight he'll lose and mista can block bullets well enough to buy him time to get behind cover
I think people misjudge the crap out of Hol Horse because of plot armor.
yea he would have killed avado/ponoliff(i cant spell sorry)and be the first villan to kill a main cast
He did kill Avdol but Araki just said fuck it and wrote him back into the plot.
Stand name [ PLOT ARMOR ]
Stand master : some buff dude
@@CorruptedMaterial wasnt it was bcs the Japanese fans asked for Avdol to be bring back?
Jangles exactly, we even see Avdols spirit leave his body
I think Hol Horse would try to talk his way out of it, probably trying to convince Mista they should join forces. Barring that, he'd just run away.
or... stick his fingers up Mista's nose.
ah yes, the joestar secret technique
@@jectblade
I just think it eould be like:
Hol Horse: (introfucing himself) My name is Hol Horse, my stabd represents the 4th card of tar-
Mista: (Nigerundayo'ing)
Hol Horse: “Finally a worthy opponent, Our battle will be legendary!”
Reminds me of a stand I made up.
High Hopes, a humanoid stand wielding two revolvers, a Bowie Knife, and a bugle.
Abilities:
Stand Bullets: Bullets can phase through anything until a chosen point in space. Used to pierce armor.
Dreamcrusher Blade: When someone is struck with the knife, they would feel as if a big dream were crushed. Effectiveness depends on victim.
Call to Higher Hope: High Hopes plays a tune on the bugle, reinforcing allies' mental and emotional vigor. Most effective when paired with Golden Experience or angry teammates.
I mean Hol Horse has the cooler hat so he wins by default.
by that logic Gyro should've never died then
hope u aint driving with that fucked up vision
Skeleton War So speedwagon solos the verse?
Skeleton War Mista doesn’t have a hat, that thing’s flesh
@@thevagabond5017 oh shit man
I think a lot of you are forgeting emperor biggest weakness: the fact that he needs to control the bullets, they are not homing bullets, they are controled bullets, so he needs to stay focus while shooting, thats why he always stand still while shooting, thats why he didnt shooted the crusaders while he was escaping in horse, and thats also why the bullet he shot to pollnaref lose his trajectory when kakyoin used emerald splash, because he losed focus.
Thats also why he needs a main dps and he can only be a support character, because he has great offense, but if he is the main focus of an attack he is totally vulnerable. He knows for a fact that in a 1v1 if he cant kill his opponent with the first attack, he pretty much lose
He'll win, because he's a Josturr who uses the secret technique.
He says the N word so often
But he doesn't have to control a bullet in course it will keep flying straight
not to mention it's mista we're talking about here, he would easily tank 1 bullet from Hol Horse if it meant his 6 would get Hol Horse
C _ W Hol horse could just spam it faster than mista
In short,
HE WIELDS A GU-
OH MY GOD I JUST REALIZED SOMTHING
THE EMPEROR IS THE FORTH TERRO
Nah man it's a statemate hol horse misses and mista just shoots himself
I know this is a year old, but if Mista shot himself, wouldn't hol horse be the winner?
@@bernardomedina356 It would take like six hours for mista to die from shooting himself, and I imagine hol horse would have given up by then, but I guess hol horse would win by default?
It’s funny cause Hol Horse was defeated due to getting himself shot lol
@DonkeyKong Be kinda thic no, the bullets trajectories back, since like in alot of his fights he shoots himself
@@atoaster5676 he will take 4 hours 44 minutes and 44 seconds
top ideas for standoff:
-Gyro Vs Caesar (Spin Vs Hamon)
-Jolyne vs Giorno
-Okuyasu vs Cool Ice (both erase stuff)
-Jonathan Vs Kars
-Joseph (young) Vs Dio (part 1)
-Rohan Vs Narrancia
-Koichi Vs Johny (both evolve a lot their stands)
Okuyasu v Vanilla ice coming soon, Rohan v Narrancia maybe, Jolyne v Giorno definite maybe.
(Josuke Voice)
Great-o- Daze xFortse
yare yare dawa
+xForts favorite jojo? (mine joseph in part 2
Can't tell I wanna save it for a vid
imo another important factor is the Emperor is a stand, and therefore can likely harm other stands ; however mista's gun is just a regular gun and cannot do that, mista has to target the user himself for it to be useful
Facts
1:49 "emperor has no recoil"
*Animation shown has recoil*
Yeah, but the recoil doesn't affect his aim.
The biggest problem with your proposed "Mista with Emperor" suggestion is that Mista would never be able to use Emperor.
Since it's the Tarot's Number 4
Underrated, fucking funny
@@tidalripplewave5130 he stole the comment lmao
@@syyruppallaround damn srsly?
@@tidalripplewave5130 Yee
@@syyruppallaround he probably didnt steal it it could be that they both thought the same and he didnt see the older one
Y'all think Sex Pistols could deflect an Emerald Splash?🤔
silly question, no-one can deflect the emerald splash.
DIO's finger might have something to say about that
John Bailey N O B O D Y C A N D E F L E C T T H E E M E R A L D S P L A S H
Yes.
@@Quaelandys *N O B O D Y*
bruh araki be like:
New Update!
Changed:
We nerfed emperor.
Hol horse is superior since he can use secret jojo technique, NIGURENDAYO
You right, you right…
And HIS Stand Is The 4th Tarot Card
More like HoHo secet thecnique, Run away with a horse.
Okuyasu vs Vanilla Ice
I second this
Yes please
Possibly
okyuasu would lose LOL
The video is up
But if Hol Horse had Boingo at his side during the fight...
Boingo: "My Manga says that the one with the gun will be pierced by 6 bullets at once! And that prediction will be 100% true!"
Hol Horse: "So I only have to shoot 6 times...?"
Meanwhile Mista already shot all the bullets and sex pistols are on their way...
Winner: still Mista
thanks for the nonspecifics boingo XD
if you look at the way ""jotaro"" died in the boingo manga, its the exact same way Pucci killed him in part 6
I think that Boingo's failure with Hol Horse made little sense, considering his predictions supposedly always come true and Hol Horse can control his own fucking bullets. Oh well...
+ditalos and how his head exploded in part 4
IchCharacter it's because his predictions are unspecific
"Mista!!!! Mista!!!" I miss those little guys ^-^
Then again, The Emperor is the 4th Tarot Card.
Interesting.
Wham or ACDC vs any stand user would be interesting.
i think a pilar man vs fugo would be an interesting match because those ones could stand the purple haze stand virus
+adrian Perez yes thats really a good idea but besides that id like to think what would young joseph from part 2 would do if he fought a stand user but im not so sure who
+adrian Perez in what is hamon skills i think joseph would be a bit outmatchet by jonathan and on strategy jonathan would be way surpassed by joseph (im not so sure but i guess jonathan's hamon was stronger joseph's)
Diego Master Well I'm not sure about that. Joseph went through a harder training than Jonathan and used hamon in situations under even more pressure. Also, Joseph awakened his own hamon when he was little without even noticing.
Diego Master Jonathan's hamon is (I'd say) at least twice as powerful as Joseph's. He did inherit William Zeppeli's hamon, and he was a master, after all. Joseph would probably win, since his strategy allowed him to beat some of the most powerful villains in the JJBA universe.
I haven't read the JoJo manga, so I might be lacking some crucial info, but considering that The Emperor's bullets can evade even Silver Chariot's speed, could the Sex Pistols actually be used as defence? And if so, considering The Emperor's bullets can damage Stands, could Sex Pistols play around them without being damaged by the sheer kinetic force behind the bullets?
Sex Pistols has an "A" in durability, so...
Well Durability doesn't always means that a stand can survive an attack from another stand.
Bryan Merrill
Hermit purple has an A in durability but was easily broken, just didn't translate back to Joseph.
@@account8158 the only one that got hermit purple destroyed is DIO he has an A in power,while emperor only has A in power.
@@combativeThinker didnt you see ciccolate easily destroy almost all of them without even using his stando *prob spelled the name wrong oofs idc*
Mista: Makes Hol Horse lose for the 4th time
Also Mista: So 4 IS unlucky
“GUN” vs “when a mommy GUN and a daddy GUN love each other very much…”
Two of the best JoJo characters ever, both in a world with stupidly overpowered abilities, they got a fucking gun.
I like most of this however I think you got Hol Horse a bit wrong, he only freaks out when its obvious that he is going to lose not when he is by himself. He almost turned on Dio with out anyone being there to back him up despite not know what his stand even looks like because he had the upper hand being with in point blank range with Dio facing away from him, the only reason he didn't try blowing Dio's brains out was because he could sense that if he did he would be killed making the attempt meaningless.
He is smart when it comes to his weakness, if he doesn't have some one helping him then there was no way he could defeat a whole group of stand users, but every time he was confident enough he stood a chance at winning he walked out in plain sight ready to fight.
If he went against Mista it would be a bit different as he doesn't have the same intimidation factor as some one like Jotaro or Dio has and once he figured out how his stand works he would get confident in his abilities seeing that he has the better stand. After that Its hard to say, Mista is smarter so he does have the possibility to over come that weakness in stand power but all it would take is one lucky shot to destroy his gun and he no longer has an ability to fight back with out getting close. Not only that but Hol Horse can track bullets by himself while Mista relies on his stand to do it for him, meaning against Mista he actually does have a pretty good defense as he could tell where the bullets are going if he sees them and possibly attack Mista's stand directly by avoiding its hits to deflect his stand bullets.
But in the end I do agree Mista would win majority of the time but just not 10/10, maybe some where between 6 to 8 depending on how lucky Hol Horse is during the fights.
There's also a major question if Sex Pistols can even deflect Emperor's bullets.
Yes, they can deflect normal real world bullets but Emperor's bullets are part of the stand meaning that these bullets can harm other stands.
So maybe if Sex Pistols tried to deflect Emperor's bullets it would actually kill Sex Pistols and thus killing off Mista.
Hatesh Warkio that's a really solid point i didn't even think of that
Riko Wolfin I agree this video did downplay Hol Horse too much he definitely isn’t the better user but he can still would have like a 40% chance of winning.
@@HateshWarkio
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Dont forget that he is the 4th tarot card
Imagine if Mista somehow managed to switch bodies with Hol Horse, he'd be absolutely unstoppable.
Dude, they still have the same stands and memory.
What I meant to say was if Mista and Hol Horse somehow got their *Stands* switched, then Mista would be unstoppable
Why Does Mista's Stand Play Soccer?
DIO!
Hi, im Cheestaro
Emperor has an E in precision because the stand stats for it don’t take into account the bullet control aspect. It treats the stand as if it were a regular gun fired by a regular person. That’s my justification.
He's the leader of the bunch, you know him well, he's finally back, to kick some tail...
CG
Coconut gun
Magus the Outrageous GS: GilvaSunner, SG: SiIvaGunner
His coconut gun, can fire in spurts.
ProtoZilla If he shoots ya, He's firing in spurts
Inflate his balloon, just like a balloon.
The precision stat for Him Horse is unfair because of how the Emperor works vs how Mista's gun works with his stand.
Since Mista's stand is the bullets and not the gun itself, stand, ie, the bullets can control where they go. So of course the precision would be an A and not an E.
With Hol Horse, it's the exact opposite. The stand is the gun, not just the bullets. Both the gun and bullets are the stand. And because of that, the Emperor has ∞ ammunition instead of just 6 like Mista. Also, unlike Mista and sex pistols, the Emperor can't redirect it's shots, Hol Horse has to do that himself. With Mista and his stand, he can kinda just fire and forget and the stand will do all the work to hit a target. With the Emperor, the only work that Hol Horse would have to do is to control where the bullets go. And with a bottomless magazine and the ability to fire as quickly as he can pull the trigger and fire as many shots as he pleases, against most people, they'd look like swiss cheese in a matter of seconds.
Also, The Emperor has very high recoil. Similar to a real gun. That also plays into the E rating on the precision stat. But again, to counteract that high recoil, he just controls where the shots go.
I can't believe they got the entire equine to hold a gun
Mista: Ends up Shooting Himself
Hol Horse: Also Ends up shooting himself
I think it's worth mentioning that, even though Hol Horse is a colossal fuck up, when he had The Emperor to DIO's head he was completely calm. That tells you something about a man.
since he's able to control the bullets, i find it reasonable that the emperor has an E in precision, because it's a gun. there's a lot of recoil, so it's not very precise. hol is able to control the bullets, which means that he's just making it move towards the target, and around silver chariot's sword.
Fun Fact: Josuke is Araki's favourite JoJo. Which might be the reason none of the main group died in Part 4.
You forgot about Shigechi, he got blown up by Killer Queen
Mista wouldn't have a *chance* against Hol Horse, because Emperor is the *4th* tarot card.
@@loksize4588 mista is scared of the number 4 which means he would be scared of the emperor
@@loksize4588 4 is unlucky
No, Mista Will Laugh Because Hol Horse Has 4th Tarot Card
I think the moment hol horse says 4. Mista would shoot him right then and there
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I find that the biggest difference of the two is that Hol Horse needs a visual to target while Mista, just like in the train, can command Sex Pistols to individually search for the enemy even when he can't see it and they can plan for themselves as well. In other words, Emperor is fast and unlimited but Sex Pistols is sentient meaning it can adapt.
But then how did hol horse control the bullet in the pipe scene where the bullet was turning from pipe to pipe to shoot jotaro?
@@maketemmiegreatagain5246 That was because of Boingo
@@fakedan6568 did boingo like show a map of the pipe and where it should go to get to jotaro? Because from the anime it just looks like boingo shows hol horse how jotaro can die not the map of the pipe and remmenber boingo stand is very vague
@@maketemmiegreatagain5246 I think it is more of Boingo predicting the bullet's trajectory and letting fate take the wheel from there, or at least that is was I have been told
@@fakedan6568 if fate guided the bullet then it would have hit jotaro since it is Fated to happen in boingo stand instead it hit hol horse, and if it predict hol horse bullet trajectory then it wouldv have made a map of the trajectory aka the pipe, and you know boingo stand is vague so no
Mista he realises that he has 4 limbs: 👁️👄👁️
Alternate title: Mafia member with Kitchen Gun vs. Cowboy with Kitchen Gun
Just some quick suggestions off the top of my head:
Man in the Mirror vs The Hanged Man
Stray Cat vs Iggy & The Fool
Aerosmith vs Bad Company
Aqua Necklace vs Geb
Little Feet vs Goo Goo Dolls
Horus vs White Album
Notorious B.I.G. vs Sheer Heart Attack
Made in Heaven vs D4C Love Train
Limp Bizkit vs Justice
Killer Queen (Bomb #1) vs Boku no Rhythm wo Kiitekure
Bites the Dust vs Gold Experience Requiem
agreed, but the last one, Gold Experience Requiem would just deny the reality of Bites the Dust activating, so nothing would happen
「Dai San no Bakudan」
From all this...
Aerosmith vs Bad company
MiH vs D4C Lt
because all of the other ones are so much said or Just aren't enough fair if you put them in the same scene togheter.
Alexyahoo10 Actually, I think Gold Experience Requiem would do that and then proceed straight to the whole endless-deaths thing that it did to Diavolo. "Anyone who tries to destroy my reality will be punished" or something like that.
1. Man in the mirror > Once J. Geil gets pulled into the mirror he's done
2.The fool > Stray Cat is a sitting duck
3. Bad Company > More projectiles
4. Geb > Stronger overall + Angelo isn't that careful so N'doul would hear him easily.
5. Little feet > A more diverse range of ability
6. White album > Way stronger in general
7. Notorious B.I.G HAS NO WEAKNESS! (tbh Kira wouldn't beat an unkillable stand)
8. D4C Love Train > Can't be hit by Pucci even if he goes that fast
9. No idea right now
10. GER > Sets everything to 0 including Kira's timeloop. etc..
「Dai San no Bakudan」 to think about how many of these he actually did.
Honestly tho, The Emperor would've been an absolutely broken stand, it's just that Hol Horse is absolutely braindead.
Yeah like imagine joseph with emperor
@@Silancet DIO would not survive a week. Let alone 50 days.
Same reason why 【The Hand】
is underused.
Polnareff and Hol Horse probably share a braincells
Imagine if hol horse and Joseph teamed up
The reason Emperor has an E in precision and can move the trajectory of bullets is because Hol Horse controls the bullet,not Emperor.
The Emperor is the fourth tarot card, that’s enough reason for Mista to want to kill him.
Hol horse would win because of the fact that whenever Mista shoots something or someone it always ends up hurting him instead.
Don't forget he can withstand bullet and keep on fighting... Even if he aims for the head, it would not work that easy cuz of his stand
Imagine nearly dying every battle youre in
dont remember that emperor is the 4th tarot card
This is the first time I heard Mista 's stand name and I was expecting like "Minion Shot" or "Trickster Bullet" But I never expected "Sex Pistols"
Admiral SkyMarine I just call is six bullets so I don’t get in trouble but Sex Pistols is a preeeetyyyy funny stand name
Mista's stand's is named after a British punk rock band named 'Sex Pistols'
Thats it im calling Sex Pistols Minion Shot now.
@@greph And that is the problem with just taking random names xD
I'll say six pistols if I need to avoid saying sex pistals
Emperor: a literal gun
Araki: thats a B in speed
It's not actually that fast for a stando. StPl's punches are like wayyyy faster
1:51 “zero recoil” Game: I’m about to ruin this mans whole career
*SPOILERS FOR 5 AND 6*
GER (Giorno) Vs MiH (Pucci) anyone?
This needs to be done.
imo GER wins without a sweat since it's immune to it's time acceleration ability and universe reseting
He's only immune in the Jorge Joestar novel, which is not canon.
Suu GER doesn't get affected by other stands even if it were to get affected, GER has infinite reaction time, meaning he would protect it's user, by nullifying it
GER's own existence is the biggest plot hole to the whole universe reset. Unless GER nullified the effect _only_ for Giorno, in which case he would be perfectly fine in the new universe. Now that I think about it, would be really cool to see him again in Part 9 exactly as he was in Part 5.
But, He is the HOL horse. You can't stop a HOL horse
Just Monika
And the award for Jojoke if the century goes to you
Okay think about this, Hol Horse redirects HIS bullets but Mista redirects ANYONE'S bullets, it's a stalemate
6:23 “So it’s the same type of stand as ZA HANDO”
2:34 -God- Giorno I love those transitions
*4*
4:44 @Mista is not amused
This conclusion makes perfect sense.
Now, what if you had these two working alongside each other? Would Sex Pistols be able to redirect the infinite stream of bullets from the Emperor to just absolutely maul their common foe?
The question is if they would be able to redirect even 1 bullet.
They can easily interact with real world bullets because those can't harm them but Emperor's bullets are part of a stand which mean those bullets can harm other stands.
Sex Pistols might die during deffending of Mista because of this.
Also as you said, Hol Horse can go full machine gun with his stand.
Hatesh Warkio
You're forgetting that Sex Pistols has a durability of "A" while Emperor's destructive power is only "B."
Bryan Merrill durability isn’t just physical durability in Sex Pistols case is referring to how it defends the user not its self.
@@combativeThinker Didn't they get sliced by a scalpel?
Josephs tommy: I heard you were talking about characters guns without me
the gun is mightier then the sword mmmm what a genius quote
xForts rocks! He has some of the best JJBA coverage hands down. You've made me a bigger Jojo fan. Keep being awesome bro!
nooo my lovely hol horse!!!!!!!
Imo, he sin't that much of an idiot. He knows his Stand is weaker than most, and that it'd be better to pair up. It's his reliance, or doubt, on the partner that causes his downfall.
2:17 I think the percision stat is like that because Hol Horse's full potential percision would've been A, but because development is E Hol Horse can't really master his stand any more. What I'm saying is right now Hol Horse's percision is only growing (if it could), and so it's considered E tier as there's a lot of room to grow.
6:50 shocked Mista face