This is a great video. I am setting myself with the same air compressor you have so what you are sharing is exactly what I need. i will be painting my car in June in my garage. Thank you for posting!
Just wanted to give you a heads up it's generally recommended to put the air regulator after the filter. This is to keep oil contaminants and later on in the compressor's life rust particles out of the regulator.
'great tip, i never thought of using air hoses instead of the black pipes i use to have on my 60 gal compressor, and this set up you have is a lot less expensive than the black pipes i had, and like you said as long as it works thats all that matters great tip again.
Quick easy setup. Nice. I made mine with 1/2 copper Used flexible line between compressor and wall mounted copper pipe with ball valve drains at bottom to bleed water out. Not sure how your bleeding water out? Maybe take it down to drain it out?
That’s how I’ve set up all my shops run a large inner diameter hose 50 feet from the compressor to the water drop on the wall to another 50 feet of hose I’ve never had a problem👍🏼
@@lex5.060 I run 1/2 copper tubing horizontally along the wall. It's about 30 feet worth total as it goes there and back. Works like a charm. Went to 3/4 when original 1/2 galvanized was giving up. 3/4 did not allow as much cooling (less copper per given volume) and got water. 1/2 works perfect.
I wish I could have! I tired my hand at it and all I did was cause a bunch of micro scratches so I got scared and quit. Haha. I spent a couple hours on one small area under the wing and it got rid of the orange peel but left those scratches.
???What kind of fan setup did you use to remove overspray and what paint products. I'm researching to do my first paint job, one more your air filter what type is it, I need to complete plumbing for my compressor as well, sorry so many questions but I'm a newbie to painting. Thx...
I just used a cheap Lowe’s fan I had laying around. I should have used a couple box fans to move the air more though. My filter is the desalt desiccant system and it seemed to work well. The paint was whatever my local auto paint store carried, I can’t remember the brand offhand but it was their cheaper version. Still cost around $300 in paint and clear alone though. Good luck on your project!
I have the same air compressor you have I was just wondering how well it keep up when you was painting your car did it run continuously or shut off every so often.
i use to have black pipes connected to my 60 gallon compressor , anyways i like this set up it's a lot less expensive, but i think ill go witih 25 or 30 ft of hose up and down the wall, like you said if works thats all that matters and most important is keeping the moisture out of the lines good tips thanks,
@@scottmcbride2237 try doing a relatively big job with it and see how much water water spits from the tool so a larger diameter gives more working time. For painting it's real bad
@@romellyarde907 lol. There are ways to keep water out. Guys are painting Tahoes with this gun with no problems. There are many videos on how to keep water out. You just have to know the tricks to prevent it.
Hey brother is the setup still working good? If so how do you drain the water inside the air hose? Im thinking about doing the same 💩 bec times is hard rn.
I understand that! I only painted two cars with it but it worked well for me! I drained it through the desiccant system. I’m sure there was still water in the red hose but it wasn’t enough to effect my paint. Using hard piping with valves at the low points would be better if you wanted to do a lot of cars!
Thank you! I used the 1.8 for the high build primer and the 1.3 for the paint. I think I used the 1.2 for the clear. The guy I bought the paint from was nice enough to label each one with a nozzle size and I matched it pretty close to what the kit came with.
interesting . I'm ion a 16w class for painting cars. According to my instructor 13.5CFM is minimal with the HPLV guns. and the set up ALONE tank and piping and the filters all about 2k.... and i was like WHAT hell to the NAW.. not for a at home set up. I do plan on getting a inflatable paint booth for about 900$... but god dam theres gotta be a better way
As far as the setup in the garage it is legal where I live but using it for commercial purposes may not be. I would check your local laws and zoning for that!
Thats not very clever. At each low point in the air hose, there should be a drain. Water will collect in the bottom loops, build up until a big amount of water prevents air moving them blow in one hit, a load of water
If I were to do it full time I would have done that but it was just a one time paint job. I just needed 50 feet of hose before my desiccant system so that’s how I hung it. Worked out well for my car as you can see!
If you're painting on a warm or humid day, you might try coiling that 1st run of hose in a cooler with a bag of ice to condense the water vapor in the line before it hits the desiccant filter.
30 gal will not keep up when painting a car. Ive done it many times. you can do it but the compressor will run continuos, heating the air and causing more moisture/water. A good baseline compressor for painting cars should be 60 gal.
@@sierraridgereaper damn!!! 60? I've thought about it before and you're right. Even a 30 gal tank seemed like not enough to me when thinking of witch tank to buy
It's really about the CFM that's gonna keep up while spraying. Need 16 and better so pressure don't drop. Not sure what his is in video but maybe he can share with us...
I am no expert by any means, but I had read that at least 50’ of hose was needed to allow the air to cool down. So yes they are close but the air traveled further. Someone mentioned I’d be better off putting the hose in ice water but I didn’t try that.
@@lex5.060 . Planning my first DIY project so I totally get it. That makes sense though. It didn't occur to me that the air coming out would be warm. The ice water solution sounds quick and easy but I wouldn't want to keep going to the store for ice lol.
What may have helped me was that it was in the teens outside when I painted so it lowered the air temperature all around. Good luck on the project hope it turns out well!
Don’t mess around with all of the ice water and stuff that’s way too much screwing around, what I always do is just get an extra roll of hose and run it into the house and put the slack in the freezer and then back out to the shop, it gets way colder and way faster and then you don’t have to keep stopping to put more ice into the dam bucket because it melts too fast! Plus when I did the ice water trick I accidentally pulled the bucket over with the hose and didn’t know it and when I came around the front of the car with the sprayer I slipped in the water and fell on my ass and broke the sprayer and paint and shit flew all over the place and I had one hell of a mess! Ruined my whole paint job dammit!
I have the desiccant system after the red hose to assist. If it were hard piped I would definitely have drains where you mentioned. Just my cheap setup!
Maybe! Haha. I just did this to save space. Not sure it helps much other than looks interesting. I think the best is a solid pipe with drains at the bottom from what I researched but this worked for my one car I did!
No issues. I’ve only painted one other mustang but it came out just fine! Not a professional setup by any means but it saved me a $8,000 minimum paint job! Haha
My setup involves me running a hose out of girlfriends ass, about 1/2 inch diameter setup, with high pressure methane hose. I get plenty of air, runs about 1 hour. I give her beans 🫘 and then she can run for about 2 hours give or take. Looking to upgrade my setup soon due to odor.
having your air hose zip tied to the wall mimicking a copper air cooler/water separator is really doing nothing for you. You could have it coiled up on the ground and it would do the same thing it is doing on the wall. The hose material has poor heat transfer so its not dissipating the heat anywhere near like a copper manifold setup. Not to mention there is no ball valve drains at the low points to get rid of moisture.
I appreciate the input! I did it to save space and not look like a heap of line laying on the floor. Haha. If I had hard piping I would have done that, it worked well for the two cars I did. Not professional by any means!
Please everybody go to an auto body shop. Doing it by yourself will be 100% crap. Believe me. I had an auto body shop for 28years. Now I am 56 and retired😎
I agree on a car with more value. If I wanted to pay $5,000 for a paint job on a $4,000 car I would have taken it somewhere, but the numbers don’t quite add up there.
Ok. But is a 4000 $ car worth it to do some crap paint on it ?🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ is it not better to keep it like it is..... I mean 4000 $ is a crap car as well , right?
Haha depends on who is looking. This car was covered in plasti dip that would not come off so I had to sand it down thus requiring a paint job. It was not worth it in my mind to pay someone to do it. My other mustang I would have no problem paying a professional to do it. The point of this is a first time paint job on a budget.
@@DeeNo909 I never worked for insurances !! Always just for privat people / all of them loved their Cars and all of them were super happy with the results of our paint job 😎
This is a great video. I am setting myself with the same air compressor you have so what you are sharing is exactly what I need. i will be painting my car in June in my garage. Thank you for posting!
Good luck! It’s a lot of work for sure. Just make sure the air is dry when it gets to the gun!
@@lex5.060 Quick question, you got your tubing/air line from Tractor Supply. What type of tubing is it? or what brand? Thank you
@@josequevedo8439half in' hose with 3/8 fittings
Nice setup
Thank you bro .. I like your videos man hopefully your channel gets big soon... Keep up the good work 👍
Thank you very much!
Good info. Thanks.
Perfect just what I need
Great news! Good luck!
Just wanted to give you a heads up it's generally recommended to put the air regulator after the filter. This is to keep oil contaminants and later on in the compressor's life rust particles out of the regulator.
Thank you for the tip!
'great tip, i never thought of using air hoses instead of the black pipes i use to have on my 60 gal compressor, and this set up you have is a lot less expensive than the black pipes i had, and like you said as long as it works thats all that matters great tip again.
Thank you very much! Good luck!
Copper piping is the only way to go for setting up an air drying system for painting cars. A set up like this is complete crap.
Can't go wrong with the flexzilla.
Quick easy setup. Nice.
I made mine with 1/2 copper
Used flexible line between compressor and wall mounted copper pipe with ball valve drains at bottom to bleed water out. Not sure how your bleeding water out? Maybe take it down to drain it out?
That’s how I’ve set up all my shops run a large inner diameter hose 50 feet from the compressor to the water drop on the wall to another 50 feet of hose I’ve never had a problem👍🏼
Glad to hear it sir!
@@lex5.060 I run 1/2 copper tubing horizontally along the wall. It's about 30 feet worth total as it goes there and back. Works like a charm. Went to 3/4 when original 1/2 galvanized was giving up. 3/4 did not allow as much cooling (less copper per given volume) and got water. 1/2 works perfect.
Is the compressor 240v ? Because I was thinking what if I used a 110v adapter ? Or would that be bad for the circuit
cool video
Thank you!
can you do a video of the wet sending like you did for when you painted the car !
I wish I could have! I tired my hand at it and all I did was cause a bunch of micro scratches so I got scared and quit. Haha. I spent a couple hours on one small area under the wing and it got rid of the orange peel but left those scratches.
You're awesome
Thanks, you are too!
Thanks
???What kind of fan setup did you use to remove overspray and what paint products. I'm researching to do my first paint job, one more your air filter what type is it, I need to complete plumbing for my compressor as well, sorry so many questions but I'm a newbie to painting. Thx...
I just used a cheap Lowe’s fan I had laying around. I should have used a couple box fans to move the air more though. My filter is the desalt desiccant system and it seemed to work well. The paint was whatever my local auto paint store carried, I can’t remember the brand offhand but it was their cheaper version. Still cost around $300 in paint and clear alone though. Good luck on your project!
Does it matter if I run the flexzilla tubing first and then the red stuff? I like the way it looks better that way! Great video and help!👍
I wouldn’t think it matters! Just keep the desiccant system between them. Thank you very much!
So the zig zag hose set up, is supposed to help cool the air before the desiccant oil separator. Thanks cool set up.
Just the length of hose helps. I zig zag’d it just to save wall space!
lex that air filter desiccant system is it for oil also the one i'm looking at to buy says oil and desiccant thanks
This Dewalt one I used said it filters both. I know it’s small for a paint gun but it seemed to work ok for me for the one car at least!
That’s the brand of you water filter system
I have the same air compressor you have I was just wondering how well it keep up when you was painting your car did it run continuously or shut off every so often.
During painting it basically ran continuously. It would cut off for 20-30 seconds then kick back on.
i use to have black pipes connected to my 60 gallon compressor , anyways i like this set up it's a lot less expensive, but i think ill go witih 25 or 30 ft of hose up and down the wall, like you said if works thats all that matters and most important is keeping the moisture out of the lines good tips thanks,
That design can work in the short term but the hose due to its small diameter will fill up with water
Thanks for the tip!!
It's simple to remove the water out of the hose. It's commonsense. I use this same setup for years. Never had a problem.
@@scottmcbride2237 try doing a relatively big job with it and see how much water water spits from the tool so a larger diameter gives more working time. For painting it's real bad
@@romellyarde907 lol. There are ways to keep water out. Guys are painting Tahoes with this gun with no problems. There are many videos on how to keep water out. You just have to know the tricks to prevent it.
Hey brother is the setup still working good? If so how do you drain the water inside the air hose? Im thinking about doing the same 💩 bec times is hard rn.
I understand that! I only painted two cars with it but it worked well for me! I drained it through the desiccant system. I’m sure there was still water in the red hose but it wasn’t enough to effect my paint. Using hard piping with valves at the low points would be better if you wanted to do a lot of cars!
hi Lex did you use the same tips for primer---color coat and clear coat what size tip did you use thanks nice vid
Thank you! I used the 1.8 for the high build primer and the 1.3 for the paint. I think I used the 1.2 for the clear. The guy I bought the paint from was nice enough to label each one with a nozzle size and I matched it pretty close to what the kit came with.
interesting . I'm ion a 16w class for painting cars. According to my instructor 13.5CFM is minimal with the HPLV guns. and the set up ALONE tank and piping and the filters all about 2k.... and i was like WHAT hell to the NAW.. not for a at home set up. I do plan on getting a inflatable paint booth for about 900$... but god dam theres gotta be a better way
Yeah it gets expensive really quick! I’m CZcams taught so don’t consider me a professional by any means! Haha
you don't need a booth you can paint a car in your dirive way as long as you know what your doing .
Lex 5.0
Very good
Thank you!
Is this legal to have ! ? I wanna start painting in my garage some small jobs !
As far as the setup in the garage it is legal where I live but using it for commercial purposes may not be. I would check your local laws and zoning for that!
Thats not very clever.
At each low point in the air hose, there should be a drain.
Water will collect in the bottom loops, build up until a big amount of water prevents air moving them blow in one hit, a load of water
If I were to do it full time I would have done that but it was just a one time paint job. I just needed 50 feet of hose before my desiccant system so that’s how I hung it. Worked out well for my car as you can see!
You think 10.0CFM is good enough for most jobs? I love flexilla
Me as well! And it seems to work well for me! Painted two cars now and it’s been good.
If you're painting on a warm or humid day, you might try coiling that 1st run of hose in a cooler with a bag of ice to condense the water vapor in the line before it hits the desiccant filter.
Thanks for the tip!
Do you think a 30 gal air compressor would work with your setup?
It should as long as your scfm is around 7 or more. It may kick on and run longer but the flow rate is what’s important.
@@lex5.060 what size tank you using? 30 gallons?
30 gal will not keep up when painting a car. Ive done it many times. you can do it but the compressor will run continuos, heating the air and causing more moisture/water. A good baseline compressor for painting cars should be 60 gal.
@@sierraridgereaper damn!!! 60?
I've thought about it before and you're right. Even a 30 gal tank seemed like not enough to me when thinking of witch tank to buy
It's really about the CFM that's gonna keep up while spraying. Need 16 and better so pressure don't drop. Not sure what his is in video but maybe he can share with us...
With the air compressor being so close to the regulator, whats the purpose of running so much how to the regulator?
I am no expert by any means, but I had read that at least 50’ of hose was needed to allow the air to cool down. So yes they are close but the air traveled further. Someone mentioned I’d be better off putting the hose in ice water but I didn’t try that.
@@lex5.060 . Planning my first DIY project so I totally get it. That makes sense though. It didn't occur to me that the air coming out would be warm. The ice water solution sounds quick and easy but I wouldn't want to keep going to the store for ice lol.
What may have helped me was that it was in the teens outside when I painted so it lowered the air temperature all around. Good luck on the project hope it turns out well!
Don’t mess around with all of the ice water and stuff that’s way too much screwing around, what I always do is just get an extra roll of hose and run it into the house and put the slack in the freezer and then back out to the shop, it gets way colder and way faster and then you don’t have to keep stopping to put more ice into the dam bucket because it melts too fast! Plus when I did the ice water trick I accidentally pulled the bucket over with the hose and didn’t know it and when I came around the front of the car with the sprayer I slipped in the water and fell on my ass and broke the sprayer and paint and shit flew all over the place and I had one hell of a mess! Ruined my whole paint job dammit!
You need drains in the drops to remove the water or a pre or after cooler a hose with drops does nothing to remove water inside it
I have the desiccant system after the red hose to assist. If it were hard piped I would definitely have drains where you mentioned. Just my cheap setup!
Can you just add a valve to the hose at the end near the bottom and then continue with the regulator and filter? Would that work to drain out of line?
Should the tubing be horizontal? Water would flow down to filter.. ?
Maybe! Haha. I just did this to save space. Not sure it helps much other than looks interesting. I think the best is a solid pipe with drains at the bottom from what I researched but this worked for my one car I did!
What compressor do you have?
It’s an old Husky I bought from Home Depot probably 15 years ago. Works great still!
Looks like husky is the best bang for your buck. 12 cfm for about 600$
Have u had any problems after this video
No issues. I’ve only painted one other mustang but it came out just fine! Not a professional setup by any means but it saved me a $8,000 minimum paint job! Haha
My setup involves me running a hose out of girlfriends ass, about 1/2 inch diameter setup, with high pressure methane hose. I get plenty of air, runs about 1 hour. I give her beans 🫘 and then she can run for about 2 hours give or take. Looking to upgrade my setup soon due to odor.
having your air hose zip tied to the wall mimicking a copper air cooler/water separator is really doing nothing for you. You could have it coiled up on the ground and it would do the same thing it is doing on the wall. The hose material has poor heat transfer so its not dissipating the heat anywhere near like a copper manifold setup. Not to mention there is no ball valve drains at the low points to get rid of moisture.
I appreciate the input! I did it to save space and not look like a heap of line laying on the floor. Haha. If I had hard piping I would have done that, it worked well for the two cars I did. Not professional by any means!
I'm a chevy guy
I’m sorry.
Please everybody go to an auto body shop. Doing it by yourself will be 100% crap. Believe me. I had an auto body shop for 28years. Now I am 56 and retired😎
I agree on a car with more value. If I wanted to pay $5,000 for a paint job on a $4,000 car I would have taken it somewhere, but the numbers don’t quite add up there.
Ok. But is a 4000 $ car worth it to do some crap paint on it ?🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ is it not better to keep it like it is..... I mean 4000 $ is a crap car as well , right?
Haha depends on who is looking. This car was covered in plasti dip that would not come off so I had to sand it down thus requiring a paint job. It was not worth it in my mind to pay someone to do it. My other mustang I would have no problem paying a professional to do it. The point of this is a first time paint job on a budget.
Yeah u were one of them dudes that did insurance scams and most likely were overpriced.
@@DeeNo909 I never worked for insurances !! Always just for privat people / all of them loved their Cars and all of them were super happy with the results of our paint job 😎
You're gonna ruin that fluid needle man!
I’m sure I’ve ruined a lot! Haha
The way you’ve done that pipe work is idiotic I’m 20yr automotive refinisher
Congratulations to you! I did this one time and have never done it before. It worked for me.