One bad thing about this mower. There is no self propelled. It would be perfect for Bermuda grass and bahiagrass or any grass that can be cut 3" and shorter.
There is a propelled version for a bit more money. But it only has one speed, and it's fast! Not quite a walk behind, more of a run behind. But this mower is not hard to push at all. Really like this one.
It's pretty heavy as well. I think the shipping weight was 85 lbs. It's heavy enough that the handlebars flex a little more than I would like when maneuvering it around. The handle connects to the mower deck via a big piece of plastic instead of metal-to-metal which might be a problem in terms of longevity.
@@LawnmowerMaster It's because the GXV-160 is only 158cc's and has NO cutting torque. Those mowers you speak of are no longer made I hope you know. Honda is out of the mower biz. And yes I own a Snapper with the commercial Honda GXV-160 on her. The weakest mower I have.
@rickjames6948 Now that Honda is not making mowers I am now scared of not having parts for my brand new mower. Also, the mower has less cc’s but the torque is crazy on it.
Can you please do a review of the 21 " 170cc Gas Self-Propelled 3-in-1 Lawn Mower DB2321 2024 Version DB8602S I thinking of buying it but I’m not sure if it’s going to work?
You and I know you are not supposed to mulch that low in one cut. Must say she was doing okay. Looks like she loves the side slinger only. I know a new Honda won't cut the same as that one.
Horizontal shaft engines are for things like 4 wheeled edgers or pressure washers with a separate pump or even a go cart where you need the shaft to drive a vertical wheel or pulley.
The shaft position has nothing to do with torque, but given it goes from the crankshaft of the engine directly to a 90 degree bevel/worm drive gearbox, you'll get more torque that way, but its belt drive from the gearbox to the blade, so you'll have slippage issues under heavy loads eventually, just more stuff to break and wear out, and from a no-name brand company you won't be able to get parts.
@@solomonshaffer832 My guess would be availability of engines, and they're all Chinese mowers, so whatever they had in the parts bin is what they used.
I have 3 of these mowers so far. The weak spots are the cheap wheels and you really need to yank the cord hard to get it started. Dont slam the mower on the ground to unclog it. The front axle will break off. $35 new from powersmart if you do break it. They are a mulching monster once they are running. Ive cut foot high wet grass and weeds with mine. Once the mowing components die the engine will be fun to repurpose. Cant beat the mower for $35.
Yeah, ditch the bag, who has time for that? Let it much and you won't need the bag. I have heard the engines on these are crap and won't last over a season. I hope yours lasts and proves that wrong. It looks and sounds like a nice machine. I have heard the engine is a Honda knock-off. Also that the engines are known to sieze and when they do they are nearly impossible to get parts for. Hoping that isn't the case. Good luck!
I am told that the real engine name is under the sticker. I have yet to look under it. But it is a Chinese company I think and, yes, where do you get parts. But this one is in it's 2nd season with no problems.
@Something2LookAt I've just been seeing parts are nonexistent and there are only like 3 authorized repair shops in the US. Then independent shops won't touch them.
@@towboatjeff Independent shops won't touch them because they have no clue how to work on them, as its a horizontal engine VS the normal vertical shaft engine seen on pretty much every walk behind out there. Problem is the price is way too high on these things for what they are, and its not self-propelled either. Given the horizontal shaft going into a 90 degree worm drive gearbox it'll produce more torque, but more stuff to break...they're already out of stock, so I don't see them coming back at all, and this particular model is the only one built with that horizontal shaft engine, every other mower they have is a vertical shaft engine, or electric/battery.
Look at that engine shake while mulching LOL.
No “dip stick” jokes. Thanks for the video/information.
Lets CRUSH SOME GRASS!!! 🎉
lol, oh, stop it. But that is a good question for ya. Ever load a rider mower into your garbage truck?
Non-self propelled mowers are a better form of exercise, offer more control and have less parts to break!
One bad thing about this mower. There is no self propelled. It would be perfect for Bermuda grass and bahiagrass or any grass that can be cut 3" and shorter.
There is a propelled version for a bit more money. But it only has one speed, and it's fast! Not quite a walk behind, more of a run behind.
But this mower is not hard to push at all. Really like this one.
It's pretty heavy as well. I think the shipping weight was 85 lbs. It's heavy enough that the handlebars flex a little more than I would like when maneuvering it around. The handle connects to the mower deck via a big piece of plastic instead of metal-to-metal which might be a problem in terms of longevity.
Mowing that big yard with a 21 would really be Something to Look At. LOL.
I used to mow 2 acres every week with a 22" push mower. Great exercise and fun. I wore the engine out in just two years.
That Bahia is easy to cut. Try it on a Tifway Bermuda lawn that tall, cutting down to the same level you did. It will lock up that engine.
My commercial Honda has trouble cutting it down on a weekly basis
@@LawnmowerMaster It's because the GXV-160 is only 158cc's and has NO cutting torque. Those mowers you speak of are no longer made I hope you know. Honda is out of the mower biz. And yes I own a Snapper with the commercial Honda GXV-160 on her. The weakest mower I have.
@rickjames6948 Now that Honda is not making mowers I am now scared of not having parts for my brand new mower. Also, the mower has less cc’s but the torque is crazy on it.
It seems to vibrate a lot but im surprised the power it has
Can you please do a review of the 21 " 170cc Gas Self-Propelled 3-in-1
Lawn Mower DB2321 2024 Version
DB8602S I thinking of buying it but I’m not sure if it’s going to work?
I'm sure it's coming. They haven't specified that one yet.
Alls i gotta do is change 2 high ah battery's
Electronic lawn management is not to terrible of an idea
Itl save my next door dude on gas
You and I know you are not supposed to mulch that low in one cut. Must say she was doing okay. Looks like she loves the side slinger only. I know a new Honda won't cut the same as that one.
So what's the reason from Powersmart to make this type of an engine, does anybody know? Maybe to protect the crankshaft in case hitting a rock, ect..?
I think that's exactly why. The blade belt would just slip on a impact.
Saw this mower for $220 on their website.
Don't have to bug ne one to maintain my damned lawn
That and i don't have to bother him about the mower just leave it at my crib
Are you still using this mower and if so, how is it holding up ?
Yes, I still use it and it still works great!
Wow what you going do with all them mowers 😂
I was thinking of tying them all together to make one big 84 inch wide mower?
@@Something2LookAt ohh that be a dope video. Definitely might get alot views
@@Something2LookAt This was my first thought when I saw how many you have now in the beginning of the video.
Never understood this design....what's the purpose of a horizontal shaft engine? Assuming torque?
Horizontal shaft engines are for things like 4 wheeled edgers or pressure washers with a separate pump or even a go cart where you need the shaft to drive a vertical wheel or pulley.
@@Something2LookAt Right. I meant on a mower
The shaft position has nothing to do with torque, but given it goes from the crankshaft of the engine directly to a 90 degree bevel/worm drive gearbox, you'll get more torque that way, but its belt drive from the gearbox to the blade, so you'll have slippage issues under heavy loads eventually, just more stuff to break and wear out, and from a no-name brand company you won't be able to get parts.
@@wildbill23c Interesting - just wondering why they are doing this. Nobody else seems to be....
@@solomonshaffer832 My guess would be availability of engines, and they're all Chinese mowers, so whatever they had in the parts bin is what they used.
Tarly fixes all just did a video on this mower, it’s called avoid this brand at all costs
Ha, I will have to check that out. Mine has had no problems, really! And it's one of my favorite mowers. I guess I'm getting lucky. :)
Leaves a ton of clippings behind while bagging. Still NO competition to any Snapper Hi-Vac from 1985 or newer.
Turning all those gears, pulleys and shafts will kill the mowing slash grass cutting torque.
A horizontal shaft engine on a traditional rotary mower deck, that is weird!
Indeed it is, but it sure works well.
I have 3 of these mowers so far. The weak spots are the cheap wheels and you really need to yank the cord hard to get it started. Dont slam the mower on the ground to unclog it. The front axle will break off. $35 new from powersmart if you do break it. They are a mulching monster once they are running. Ive cut foot high wet grass and weeds with mine. Once the mowing components die the engine will be fun to repurpose. Cant beat the mower for $35.
Yeah, ditch the bag, who has time for that? Let it much and you won't need the bag. I have heard the engines on these are crap and won't last over a season. I hope yours lasts and proves that wrong. It looks and sounds like a nice machine. I have heard the engine is a Honda knock-off. Also that the engines are known to sieze and when they do they are nearly impossible to get parts for. Hoping that isn't the case. Good luck!
I am told that the real engine name is under the sticker. I have yet to look under it. But it is a Chinese company I think and, yes, where do you get parts. But this one is in it's 2nd season with no problems.
This is strange
No electric trust me saves on gas
Worst mower ever built.
Oh, there are surely worse. This thing is very strong!
@Something2LookAt I've just been seeing parts are nonexistent and there are only like 3 authorized repair shops in the US. Then independent shops won't touch them.
@@towboatjeff Independent shops won't touch them because they have no clue how to work on them, as its a horizontal engine VS the normal vertical shaft engine seen on pretty much every walk behind out there.
Problem is the price is way too high on these things for what they are, and its not self-propelled either.
Given the horizontal shaft going into a 90 degree worm drive gearbox it'll produce more torque, but more stuff to break...they're already out of stock, so I don't see them coming back at all, and this particular model is the only one built with that horizontal shaft engine, every other mower they have is a vertical shaft engine, or electric/battery.
This is trash. PowerSmart is trash. They won’t even answer their phone for customers.