Who’s The Bigger Club? | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Super Fan Debate ft. Sophie Rose, Rory & Matisse

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  • @stuartmcmillan9004
    @stuartmcmillan9004 Pƙed rokem +126

    Ashley Cole won 2 league titles, 3 FA cups and played in a Champions League final before he signed for Chelsea so to say he went to Chelsea to win things is bollocks.

    • @afckajjansi
      @afckajjansi Pƙed rokem +17

      HE DUMPED YOU FOR CFC.

    • @rossrobson1045
      @rossrobson1045 Pƙed rokem +24

      Went for money he was on about 30k a week at Arsenal then moved to Chelsea and got 100k a week

    • @arthuronyejekwe2146
      @arthuronyejekwe2146 Pƙed rokem +1

      The lack of pushback from the arsenal when that idiotic statement was made was bewildering to say the least....especially when you have donuts on the Chelsea side.

    • @mutebivation
      @mutebivation Pƙed rokem +3

      @@afckajjansi Yes buh state some facts not just sweeping statements. He was all about the money, he was willing to stay at arsenal but they refused to give him the increament he so desired and chealse at the time was trying to fish big whenever opportunity availed. So they offered the money

    • @liquidgeorge
      @liquidgeorge Pƙed rokem

      He saw that Arsenal were moribund.

  • @brianwahinya1245
    @brianwahinya1245 Pƙed rokem +60

    Before Abramovich,Man City had more league titles than Chelsea..Post Abramovich,The Arse still have more than double the number of league titles Chelsea have

    • @1969JohnnyM
      @1969JohnnyM Pƙed rokem

      Chelsea has more European titles than City up to today before Abramovich even took over.

    • @rs-by1dt
      @rs-by1dt Pƙed rokem +2

      ​@@1969JohnnyM lmfaooo and city had more league titles, more fa cups, more trophies, more years spent in the top flight, and were higher on the all time english first division table. relax brother, chelsea's European cups were not the ucl.

  • @hartz9921
    @hartz9921 Pƙed rokem +476

    Teams like Arsenal, Utd, Liverpool, Bayern, Madrid and Barca are literal institutions. They go beyond football, they’re that big. They’ve been big clubs for at least 85% of their histories, some are even approaching or surpassed a 100 years of being considered a “big club”.
    The likes of Chelsea, PSG and Man City are modern powerhouses in football, not historical.

    • @user-bx7tj2qf1p
      @user-bx7tj2qf1p Pƙed rokem +131

      Arsenal are no where near those clubs you mentioned it’s not even close

    • @cj2times955
      @cj2times955 Pƙed rokem +20

      lies Chelsea are in that as well, also don't notion that Arsenal have much bigger fans isn't true.

    • @thebrownExplorer99
      @thebrownExplorer99 Pƙed rokem +74

      Lol arsenal don't come close to those giants ! Have some shame

    • @Friday0891
      @Friday0891 Pƙed rokem +9

      what the actual F!
      are u lot really that delusional, what a disrespect to Liverpool Bayern Madrid Barca , no seriously that is disrespectful

    • @hartz9921
      @hartz9921 Pƙed rokem +27

      @@user-bx7tj2qf1p You making this comment does not make it true. Despite the fact that Arsenal did go a significant period without major silverware their name and global presence was still.
      A lot of this is due to the high influence arsenal fans have (shown by its fan channel Aftv as well as countless other Arsenal fan channels) and the influence players that have played at the club have had. Even someone like Ozil is weirdly enough (not for me because I’ve always loved him even before Arsenal) considered a sporting icon because of his unique style, his massive following, his upbringing and his work as a humanitarian/ ambassador for the worlds biggest brands. This is only one example.
      I will be completely honest, I can write an entire essay as to why Arsenal are factually actually an institution, even if they aren’t as big as the likes of Madrid, Utd and Barca etc but it would take ages and you probably wouldn’t read it because it would be INCREDIBLY long. I’ve done this a million times lol

  • @dragomn
    @dragomn Pƙed rokem +243

    As an Arsenal fan, Rory being here made this a more interesting conversation, because he knows his history. The other two are lost, and just going off emotion and champions league count.

    • @genericguy_
      @genericguy_ Pƙed rokem +1

      @@Chimera_166 how's ur russian sugar daddy?

    • @meme-ku6xn
      @meme-ku6xn Pƙed rokem +6

      @@Chimera_166 Delusional

    • @Sibstajimjam1719
      @Sibstajimjam1719 Pƙed rokem +3

      10 league title from the 60s and World War II.

    • @TecioNogueira
      @TecioNogueira Pƙed rokem +6

      @@SuperMikelArteta We have 13 bicycle and 14 scooters. So we have 2 Lamborghinis

    • @KlinsmannsMullet
      @KlinsmannsMullet Pƙed rokem

      Sophie Rose lost? Get outta here!!!

  • @magoo9066
    @magoo9066 Pƙed rokem +30

    Rory hit the nail on the head when he said if players only wanted to play for the biggest clubs then they would sign for Utd and not City. Recently City are more successful but Utd are the bigger club. Same goes here, Chelsea have had more success recently, but Arsenal are the bigger club.

    • @zogsz9637
      @zogsz9637 Pƙed 5 dny

      Ur clueless mate Chelsea are bigger end of

  • @stevearno9726
    @stevearno9726 Pƙed rokem +77

    Arsenal are the bigger club.
    More Worldwide fans.
    Bigger Stadium.
    Bigger Brand.
    Never been out of the top flight league.
    And most importantly... More trophies overall. 3rd most successful team in English Football behind only Manchester United and Liverpool....
    ..... that being said....
    Chelsea have done excellent at closing the gap over the last 20 years, in catching us up, in both trophies and fanbase. And with that they've gotten themselves into the conversation. So respect and kudos where it's due to the 4th* most successful club in English Football.

    • @marcus8030
      @marcus8030 Pƙed rokem +7

      How do you know you have more world wide fans ? I think Chelsea have more global international fans than Arsenal

    • @Natedogggg
      @Natedogggg Pƙed rokem +8

      @@marcus8030 well I’ve been to a few countries and I’ll tell you fact, Arsenal has more fans

    • @marcus8030
      @marcus8030 Pƙed rokem

      @@Natedogggg What age range fans

    • @Emanuel-bm9vn
      @Emanuel-bm9vn Pƙed rokem

      @@marcus8030 don’t let their followers deceive you, there are a tonne of Arsenal fans in third world countries in Asia and Africa. Fans who don’t have access to common privileges like the Internet or Social media

    • @rachitshukla7111
      @rachitshukla7111 Pƙed rokem +4

      As Henry said, Arsenal will always have the streets. And that's true. Nobody in Africa chats about Chelsea. And even in India I have noticed a lot of Gooners around.

  • @Baldur452
    @Baldur452 Pƙed rokem +78

    Matis quickly forgot Chelsea wanted Jesus and he choose Arsenal.

    • @liquidgeorge
      @liquidgeorge Pƙed rokem +13

      Didn't Chelsea give Arsenal their cast offs like Cech and Willian?

    • @theparadox420
      @theparadox420 Pƙed rokem +23

      @@liquidgeorge Chelsea are a small club

    • @saqet7546
      @saqet7546 Pƙed rokem

      If it wasn‘t for the chaos the abrahmovich topic created he would have chosen Chelsea

    • @kazimhaider7502
      @kazimhaider7502 Pƙed rokem

      Tuchel didn't want Jesus, he chose sterling so no point in waffling

    • @kerrykerry2740
      @kerrykerry2740 Pƙed rokem +7

      If Tuchel did not want Jesus, why did Chelsea sign a 33 year old striker?

  • @extricos
    @extricos Pƙed rokem +74

    Liverpool fan: Arsenal are well clear of Chelsea in terms of silverware during the past century so why would a team that has more than double the trophies be considered the lesser team? These CZcams fan debates don't make sense at times.

    • @victorchibuko4002
      @victorchibuko4002 Pƙed rokem +6

      I’m telling you bro 😂🎉💔

    • @LDNboy
      @LDNboy Pƙed rokem +2

      They think 10cl games are more than 38pl games and disrespecting the pl coz they haven’t won it more than arsenal

    • @vicentecorreia83
      @vicentecorreia83 Pƙed rokem +4

      @@LDNboy winning the ucl is more prestigious than winning the premier league though . Beating madrid , city , bayern , barcelona and other great teams proves that

    • @gpilley1
      @gpilley1 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@vicentecorreia83 but it's easier to go on a cup run than a League run. Yeah you have the top class but it's easier to get up for that game than it is the middle to bottom of the league teams, but to win the league you have to perform in 35+ games not just what 7-8 games throughout a year.

    • @Bud_Jablonski
      @Bud_Jablonski Pƙed rokem +3

      @@gpilley1 so why couldn’t the mighty Arsenal win it..if it’s so easy?

  • @Lifestartsatforty
    @Lifestartsatforty Pƙed rokem +56

    I know Rory gets a lot of things wrong but it’s good to see him on here.

  • @kingyaroyaro5561
    @kingyaroyaro5561 Pƙed rokem +179

    Traditionally Arsenal is bigger, but you can argue after Abramovic Chelsea are now in contention because of Europe. But looking at fan base, tradition , consistency and all that, Arsenal is slightly on top

    • @jacobmurphy9728
      @jacobmurphy9728 Pƙed rokem +32

      nope arseanl have always been a bigger club, listen im a liverpool fan and i can say that we the second best biggest club in the country but for me arseanl have always been a bigger club than chelsea, chelsea have mightve been a better team but arseanl have always been a bigger club since 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s 00s 10s etc chelsea have been recent

    • @kenroyforte6175
      @kenroyforte6175 Pƙed rokem +3

      In business you use numbers to tell and Chelsea has a bigger income statement and balance sheet.

    • @adrianb2232
      @adrianb2232 Pƙed rokem +3

      chelsea will pass as another villa/forest in history. fluked 2 champions leagues. nothing special

    • @joyowen4494
      @joyowen4494 Pƙed rokem +3

      Arsenal have never been bigger even before Abramoivc Chelsea have been winning Europe cups my dear check very well

    • @Ry27_96
      @Ry27_96 Pƙed rokem +9

      @@joyowen4494 lool you clearly know nothing about football if you think Chelsea are Bigger than Arsenal đŸ˜‚đŸ€Ł

  • @KPAFC
    @KPAFC Pƙed rokem +30

    Rory makes good points has really matured since last season

  • @BestInTheWorld13x
    @BestInTheWorld13x Pƙed rokem +41

    We're still doing this debate😂. It's obviously Arsenal based on the main 3: history, fan base and trophies. Chelsea ain't nowhere near the size of Arsenal FC. The only thing Chelsea has on Arsenal is the European pedigree which is Arsenal's holy grail

    • @KristianDabeski
      @KristianDabeski Pƙed rokem +6

      "ARSENAL BIGGER FAN BASE". I just pulled up instagram to see Arsenal have 23.3 million followers while Chelsea have 36.2 million followers.

    • @KristianDabeski
      @KristianDabeski Pƙed rokem +3

      Let me just remind u that one champions leugue trophie is worth more than 10 of your FA cups lol

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Pƙed rokem +1

      @@KristianDabeski I'm not gna bother with u young Chelsea fans 😂. By that logic city a club (u guys like to hop on the joke abt them not having fans have similar to u and a bigger subscribers on their CZcams channel) is a bigger club than Arsenal for that reason 💀. There's a reason I don't take u uneducated Chelsea fans seriously

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Pƙed rokem +4

      @@KristianDabeski "more than 10 of ur FA cups". Say another stupid invalid point so I can ss it đŸ˜‚đŸ€ŠđŸŸâ™‚

    • @KristianDabeski
      @KristianDabeski Pƙed rokem

      @@BestInTheWorld13x The fact you have 0 is ridiculous who is bigger now. Maybe u can speak under cold war times but since 97. chelsea just took over more and more both in the leugue and europe. Its not stupid nobody value that trophie but inside England. Champions leugue is the pinnicle which is something Arsenal never reached

  • @screwbigtechsanti-sciencem9438

    ManU, Liverpool, Arsenal in that order. Anyone who disagrees is biased. That's just the objective fact regardless of how anyone feels about it! Everything else is picking and choosing whether history, recently or right now matters most. If we combine it all, it remains like I already stated! đŸ€·â€â™‚

    • @afckajjansi
      @afckajjansi Pƙed rokem +1

      HAHAHAHA there's no facts that support your argument that arsenal are bigger than chelsea. Just emotions lol.

    • @donnyannessa654
      @donnyannessa654 Pƙed rokem +2

      Liverpool eclipsed us under Klopp

    • @Natedogggg
      @Natedogggg Pƙed rokem +8

      @@afckajjansi the fact I see you under every comment, just shows how insecure you are about being smaller than Arsenal 😂

    • @Emanuel-bm9vn
      @Emanuel-bm9vn Pƙed rokem

      @King Darwin yeah it sucks that Chelsea won those champions leagues. It’s the one argument us gooners have no comeback or rebuttal for whenever their fans bring it up 😂

    • @bricktop2090
      @bricktop2090 Pƙed rokem +1

      There are only 5 clubs in Europe that have Won Everything in club football to win, Juventus, Ajax, Bayern, Chelsea, Manchester United. There's no debate!

  • @daffy6099
    @daffy6099 Pƙed rokem +19

    Robbie always putting Arsenal at a disadvantage in these debates when he includes himself as one of their representatives 💀

  • @festavision
    @festavision Pƙed rokem +101

    Only one club in London with over ten league titles. Almost three times as many as Chelsea. Almost twice as many Fa cups.
    Can't say Chelsea is a bigger club when it's only came to talk in the last tens years while Arsenal have been the most dominant London team for many decades, Chelsea have been relegated in my lifetime so it's extremely difficult to see Chelsea as a bigger club. But it depends how you define 'bigger' club

    • @afckajjansi
      @afckajjansi Pƙed rokem +3

      13 is only 2x 6 and nowhere near 3x but you're gooner so I suppose you can't count. 2 ucls vs 0 ucls plus 2 europas to nothing. There's 0 logic in your claims.

    • @madmoxxi7397
      @madmoxxi7397 Pƙed rokem +2

      Champions league is the biggest trophy at club level.
      Something that seperates the elite

    • @virgilmead3710
      @virgilmead3710 Pƙed rokem +7

      @@lukealex6428 you are oh so wrong buddy!!! Worldwide Arsenal brand is way bigger than Chelsea.. From North America,Central America,Caribbean,South America onwards to Europe,Africa,Asia,Philippines to Australia!! Chelsea cannot come close to Arsenal better come with facts when your commenting bro or you will look like a đŸ€Ą

    • @freindimania11
      @freindimania11 Pƙed rokem

      That was 20 years ago

    • @freindimania11
      @freindimania11 Pƙed rokem

      @@virgilmead3710 not in Asia, we have limited sports HD channels and when we have a simultaneous match they broadcast the Chelsea game.

  • @onssereactions5459
    @onssereactions5459 Pƙed rokem +29

    Arsenal ❀

  • @De3dSh0t
    @De3dSh0t Pƙed rokem +51

    As a Madrid fan, I'd still consider Arsenal a bigger and more followed institution and a more "prestigious" club, but it's pretty close given Chelsea's continuous success for the past 20 years. Not a big gap at all for me.

    • @victorchibuko4002
      @victorchibuko4002 Pƙed rokem +2

      Yeah 😱

    • @marcus8030
      @marcus8030 Pƙed rokem

      You said as a Madrid fan but then put respect on a team that has never won the champions league ? It’s not making sense to me Chelsea have surpassed them

    • @victorchibuko4002
      @victorchibuko4002 Pƙed rokem +7

      @@marcus8030 Man how many trophies have Chelsea got both league and the Champions league combined then you can understand why Arsenal is still began than them including Man City and Spurs combine đŸ€”đŸ€”đŸ€”đŸ€”

    • @victorchibuko4002
      @victorchibuko4002 Pƙed rokem +10

      @@marcus8030 the only teams ahead of Arsenal not by much totally is Man United and Liverpool đŸ€”đŸ‘Œ

    • @marcus8030
      @marcus8030 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@victorchibuko4002 Bro Chelsea and City take your best players for fun you ain’t on United and Liverpool level.

  • @streetsiswatching9660
    @streetsiswatching9660 Pƙed rokem +10

    16:40
    When Rory started talking facts and stats it got real quiet 😂😂😂😂

  • @ckdc2052
    @ckdc2052 Pƙed rokem +18

    I’LL CONCEDE IN THE FOOTBALL WORLD CHELSEA ARE MORE RESPECTED RIGHT NOW BUT NEVER ARE THEY A BIGGER CLUB. (Haven’t watched the video yet)

  • @youssefhijazi1132
    @youssefhijazi1132 Pƙed rokem +11

    Arsenal: best ever premier league player in history- Henry
    More league titles
    More FA Cups
    Better stadium
    Bigger fan base
    Invincibles
    Chelsea-
    More European glory
    Bigger managers
    Better recent history
    I’m an Arsenal fan so I’m biased but I’ll say Arsenal lmao

    • @danniwilder2198
      @danniwilder2198 Pƙed rokem

      youssefhijazi1132 Arsenal USED to have a better stadium, in fact they had the best stadium in the country when they had Highbury. Now they have a stadium that is modern, smart, big, sophisticated, but it is also void of any character. It is just another modern stadium built to a similar template as so many countless other modern stadiums are.
      Stamford Bridge has history, it has character, it is the one & only home Chelsea have ever had. Arsenal have had 3 different homes, they travel around more than Gypsies do.
      Arsenal have a bigger fanbase? Historically they don't. In both of the club's early life it was Chelsea who far outweighed the support Arsenal had. That changed after the war or thereabouts. According to all the social media platforms & to the worldwide sales of club shirts it is once again Chelsea who has the bigger numbers.

    • @InnitInnot
      @InnitInnot Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      Bro I think your forgetting hazard😂

  • @ezeukwujoshua8371
    @ezeukwujoshua8371 Pƙed rokem +13

    It's funny to think,but in the past 20 years which has been Chelsea's golden era with 20 trophies and Arsenal in their worst ever era with eleven trophies
    To bad not many people noticed it

    • @danniwilder2198
      @danniwilder2198 Pƙed rokem +1

      Arsenal have won 11 trophies in the last 20 years? Please tell me you're not including things like the Community Shield & the Emirates Cup?

  • @mikailmirzasafdar6803
    @mikailmirzasafdar6803 Pƙed rokem +89

    Arsenal. This isn't even a question

    • @thogdenthegoat
      @thogdenthegoat Pƙed rokem +19

      You know ball

    • @afckajjansi
      @afckajjansi Pƙed rokem +10

      2 ucl vs 0đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @jacobmurphy9728
      @jacobmurphy9728 Pƙed rokem +8

      @@afckajjansi yeah and we 6 champions league bruh, but in all seriousness i much as i hate to admit it just becuase you have more champions league doesnt mean your bigger its like say forrest or villa are bigger, no although they are bigger clubs than chelsea i mean your not even the 2nd biggest club in london

    • @jbrew7396
      @jbrew7396 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@jacobmurphy9728 European trophies aren’t the only requirements but they are a requirement. You can’t be a big club without European trophies.

    • @jbrew7396
      @jbrew7396 Pƙed rokem +2

      @King Darwin historically yes.

  • @deeray4637
    @deeray4637 Pƙed rokem +6

    As an arsenal fan, you can see Rory is a proper Chelsea fan, and his knowledge of his club is far superior to anyone else at the table, bar maybe Lee, who does know his Arsenal history. There was no bias from him, he was just presenting the facts. Sophie and Matisse probably know about Chelsea as much as a can of paint does... On a side note, Cecil, my brotha, you need to cream them elbows, smh.

  • @RoryJenningsFootball
    @RoryJenningsFootball Pƙed rokem +4

    Thanks for having me on.

    • @andrewkabugo2836
      @andrewkabugo2836 Pƙed rokem +1

      Credit to you Rory. You know your stuff about your club. Enjoyed itđŸ‘đŸŸ

    • @ysl6364
      @ysl6364 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

      We need another debate

  • @khalidtaib7590
    @khalidtaib7590 Pƙed rokem +6

    As a Chelsea fan 💙 😂 I love these debates between ARS & CHE fans
    As how I see it , they’re both the top 2 London clubs no doubt.
    Regardless of the order of it

  • @arthuronyejekwe2146
    @arthuronyejekwe2146 Pƙed rokem +3

    And Trevor brooking scored the fa cup winner for West ham in 1980 when they beat Arsenal. Not Frank lampard Sr.

  • @samdlamini5232
    @samdlamini5232 Pƙed rokem +8

    Rory knows his football wow

  • @haemeshks
    @haemeshks Pƙed rokem +7

    Cecil is a brilliant host but I would take someone who could argue better in these episodes â€ïžđŸ€Ł

  • @SorenBeaulieu
    @SorenBeaulieu Pƙed rokem +6

    I think the Chelsea super fans are confusing 'bigger' with 'better'.

  • @tashrif46
    @tashrif46 Pƙed rokem +2

    17:20 yeah its true actually. Because Chelsea was on an upward trajectory before Roman Abrahamovich came to the club. They won the FA Cup in 97, the Cup Winners' Cup in 98, they finished third in the league 4 points behind treble winners Manchester United in the 1998/99 season and they went toe to toe witn Barcelona in the quarterfinals of the 2000 Champions League and then was in the final of the FA Cup of 2002.

  • @Lifestartsatforty
    @Lifestartsatforty Pƙed rokem +4

    I know Rory gets a lot of things wrong but it’s good to see Rory on here.

  • @dhruvkashyap8024
    @dhruvkashyap8024 Pƙed rokem +12

    Chelsea got oil money in 2004 and rose tp prominence.

    • @aleixbrowne2644
      @aleixbrowne2644 Pƙed rokem +8

      That stopped you from winning trophies and qualifying for Europe

    • @calastyphon3414
      @calastyphon3414 Pƙed rokem +6

      @@aleixbrowne2644 that supports his point

  • @adeshas83
    @adeshas83 Pƙed rokem +7

    Damn Rory spitting facts against my beloved Arsenal

  • @wankicho7061
    @wankicho7061 Pƙed rokem +9

    I love the argument on both sides. I'm an arsenal fan but I love how Chelsea is defending itself

    • @KristianDabeski
      @KristianDabeski Pƙed rokem +2

      "ARSENAL BIGGER FAN BASE". I just pulled up instagram to see Arsenal have 23.3 million followers while Chelsea have 36.2 million followers.

    • @coreyblakee332
      @coreyblakee332 Pƙed rokem +5

      @@KristianDabeski you think fan base is based on instagram? 😂

    • @danniwilder2198
      @danniwilder2198 Pƙed rokem

      @@coreyblakee332 Most people think that all the social media platforms combined is about the best indicator there is of a club's global following. Plus things like worldwide sales figures of things like clubs shirts, global TV viewing figures.

  • @GTPLAYBOY
    @GTPLAYBOY Pƙed rokem

    Great video guys! đŸ™ŒđŸœ

  • @bub-games
    @bub-games Pƙed rokem +2

    This should be a fan channel home and away event.
    Live debate, mediator watching comments, fans decide who win the debate by numbers in chat.
    Js. Maybe hosted on Don robbie.

  • @ruicklive7006
    @ruicklive7006 Pƙed rokem +3

    Sophie constantly repeated ‘what does that mean tho’ what a great argument!

  • @antidumbcomments
    @antidumbcomments Pƙed rokem

    Big up production for what they did with the lighting

  • @kevivramuk
    @kevivramuk Pƙed rokem

    Credit to James. I like the way he involved Cecil in the discussion! đŸ‘đŸ»

  • @tom4156
    @tom4156 Pƙed rokem +7

    Can't believe Rory was the voice of reason in this....

    • @Emanuel-bm9vn
      @Emanuel-bm9vn Pƙed rokem

      Goes to show that he has shite takes for the sake of it. When he decides to be serious he actually has decent insight

  • @Dede-xd9vt
    @Dede-xd9vt Pƙed rokem +6

    Commercially Arsenal is the bigger club when it comes to the premier league

  • @MarceloDinoYT
    @MarceloDinoYT Pƙed rokem +2

    “Ashley Cole went to Chelsea because he wanted to win trophies” 14:28
    He had literally just won the league as an invincible. Arsenal offered a contract extension, Chelsea doubled every figure Arsenal offered. It’s a well documented fact.

  • @bobolyswagz4176
    @bobolyswagz4176 Pƙed rokem +3

    How deluded can Rory be to say that Chelsea will win the Quadruple this season ?
    This guy đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł
    I swear he said that Lukaku, Werner and Morata will the Ballon D'Or

  • @jabra7793
    @jabra7793 Pƙed rokem +4

    These fan debates best content on aftv for sure. Maybe only invincible pod ia better or fourever arsenal

  • @Arsenal4lyf23
    @Arsenal4lyf23 Pƙed rokem +5

    3 v 2
 Cecil may as well have stayed at home lol.. no input

  • @93amilsa
    @93amilsa Pƙed rokem +1

    Arsenal was actually relegated from the league back in 1912/13 playing as Woolwich Arsenal. Everton was also relegated twice, first in 1929/30 and then in 1950/51 season.

  • @Wazza1095
    @Wazza1095 Pƙed rokem +4

    I’d say Arsenal Liverpool and United are the 3 biggest premier league clubs . Remember English clubs were banned in the champions league at a time when arsenal were peak !

  • @wildgoose8803
    @wildgoose8803 Pƙed rokem +22

    Is this an actual question?

  • @desf1365
    @desf1365 Pƙed rokem +11

    Only one of these clubs got sold for ÂŁ1 not so long ago.

    • @Kevin.Anthony3
      @Kevin.Anthony3 Pƙed rokem +2

      I remember that 😂😂😂

    • @thomastuchel1726
      @thomastuchel1726 Pƙed rokem +3

      Acting as if arsenal didnt get saved đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @theparadox420
      @theparadox420 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@thomastuchel1726 didn't you just get fired? Pipe down Thomas

    • @visianwatson1047
      @visianwatson1047 Pƙed rokem

      Used to keep dog races at the bridge to fund the stadium and club lol

    • @thomastuchel1726
      @thomastuchel1726 Pƙed rokem

      @@theparadox420 didnt u finish 8th 2 seasons in a row? Stick to europa ur level type

  • @andrewwhite5868
    @andrewwhite5868 Pƙed rokem +2

    James, your chair, it’s your job to make sure everyone has their say and you let down soffie.

  • @kwaku9009
    @kwaku9009 Pƙed rokem +1

    I’m an Arsenal fan and Chelsea are bigger than Arsenal right now. In the U.K. , Arsenal are have more fans but globally Chelsea are bigger. 20 years is a long time and in those years Chelsea have been dominant and have reached heights that Arsenal have never ever reached.

  • @mavlaw
    @mavlaw Pƙed rokem +11

    I was in Dubai for a month, only ever saw United and Arsenal tops. United mostly. Arsenal second biggest club in England

    • @arsenalfc7596
      @arsenalfc7596 Pƙed rokem +1

      3rd behind liverpool

    • @mavlaw
      @mavlaw Pƙed rokem

      Not globally, Arsenal are huge

    • @thogdenthegoat
      @thogdenthegoat Pƙed rokem +2

      1. Utd
      2. Arsenal (debateable)
      3. Liverpool (debateable)
      4. Chelsea
      5. City (Maybe 4th, also debateable)
      6. Spurs

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Pƙed rokem +2

      We're 3rd behind Liverpool

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Pƙed rokem +1

      @@thogdenthegoat Tottenham ain't in the top 6 big clubs

  • @lifetimesofamultiplemediam1003

    I would have said Chelsea, but Robbo made some good points that I agree with. Interesting debate still. Arsenal have been there, or thereabouts literally for ever. You can't count that out!

  • @londonsfinest6070
    @londonsfinest6070 Pƙed rokem +2

    The three biggest clubs in the country when you accumulate factors like culture, tradition, history, size are: Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal. I do agree Man City and Chelsea could change that in the years to come but at this moment in time, that’s the top 3 in my opinion!

  • @andrewwhite5868
    @andrewwhite5868 Pƙed rokem +1

    15.01 Robbie you can’t just ignore the point soffie raised and move on with your own thought process. I felt for soffie trying to make a really good point and ignored.

  • @stevaughan3374
    @stevaughan3374 Pƙed rokem +10

    Excuse me? Fan debate with no Ty 😼 shocking!

    • @Kevin.Anthony3
      @Kevin.Anthony3 Pƙed rokem +2

      Well said 😊 it's not a real debate without Ty

    • @bricktop2090
      @bricktop2090 Pƙed rokem

      Because Ty is a Mong!

    • @anwarahmed2134
      @anwarahmed2134 Pƙed rokem

      He would have just cut people of like he did on ladbible no way 😂

    • @sambarker4750
      @sambarker4750 Pƙed rokem

      I still remember when he said Arsenal are bigger than Liverpool with chest on ladbible😭

    • @anwarahmed2134
      @anwarahmed2134 Pƙed rokem

      @@sambarker4750 yh 😂😂😂 we all know he doesn’t mean it

  • @shkafity6418
    @shkafity6418 Pƙed rokem +4

    I literally remember Robbie arguing with Prat in the hat that chelsea have eclipsed arsenal after the second ucl win

    • @jaydenmerrick5837
      @jaydenmerrick5837 Pƙed rokem +1

      Was literally thinking the same thing. I remember Troopz done a video about it too (yes I know he’s not on here)

    • @logansam4763
      @logansam4763 Pƙed rokem

      @@jaydenmerrick5837 chelski small club with 29 year history that was paid for by Russian bloody money, now that’s gone their a finished club

  • @SMlFFY85
    @SMlFFY85 Pƙed rokem

    The little star next to a word is call an "asterisk". Asterix is a little Gaulish fella.

  • @arthuronyejekwe2146
    @arthuronyejekwe2146 Pƙed rokem +2

    The lack of pushback from the arsenal side when that idiotic statement was made about Ashley cole was bewildering to say the least....especially when you have donuts on the Chelsea side. 'Bimbo saying he went to Chelsea to win things...he won 2 league titles and 3 fa cups...and played in a champions league final.

  • @viviancabral8478
    @viviancabral8478 Pƙed rokem +4

    Man I watch this and I want Arsenal to shut Chelsea up and then do this debate again after the match 😊

  • @mkdisciple
    @mkdisciple Pƙed rokem +4

    Chelsea were winning trophies before the money. FA Cup and Uefa Cup in 97. And made top four in 2003. Had big players like Zola and Gullit. It wasn’t the same as Man City where it felt like the trailer park winning the lottery. The Chelsea takeover was easier to stomach and made sense.

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Pƙed rokem +6

      They weren't winning trophies like that. Why does ppl make it out like Chelsea was that type of club 😂. Yes they were a cup team at times by ending they're 27 year record of no trophy and was in the CL here and then but they were obviously not known for being a big club.

    • @amma9518
      @amma9518 Pƙed rokem

      Rudd gullit waz a very good footballer gullit man he waz one of the best footballerz ever

    • @liquidgeorge
      @liquidgeorge Pƙed rokem +1

      You literally cannot are with a man who has Illmatic as a display picture. 💯

    • @rs-by1dt
      @rs-by1dt Pƙed rokem +1

      if that's the case, ​ how did city have more league titles, more fa cups, more trophies, more years spent in the top flight, and higher on the all time english first division table pre takeover. relax brother, chelsea's was just as big a deal. don't forget save the bridge either lmfaooo

    • @superflyjimmysnucka9068
      @superflyjimmysnucka9068 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

      It was the cup winners cup! Not the uefa cup!

  • @andrewgreen352
    @andrewgreen352 Pƙed rokem +1

    Great debate when a club wins trophy's in virtually every decade never relegated and have history and fan base that says it all 💯 Chelsea are big but not bigger than Arsenal love the show 👍

  • @Clintzino
    @Clintzino Pƙed rokem +2

    We are forgetting Omari Hutchinson

  • @abdulispedro1915
    @abdulispedro1915 Pƙed rokem +4

    Sophie killed it at the endđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł 👏👏👏

    • @bricktop2090
      @bricktop2090 Pƙed rokem

      There are only 5 clubs in Europe that have Won Everything in club football to win, Juventus, Ajax, Bayern, Chelsea, Manchester United. There's no debate!

  • @mikeyparker727
    @mikeyparker727 Pƙed rokem +8

    That kid who said let's talk about Jesus he was on bench at city...
    He forgets he still chose Arsenal over Chelsea 😆

  • @stuartmcmillan9004
    @stuartmcmillan9004 Pƙed rokem +2

    European heritage, before 2004 Arsenal and Chelsea both had 2 European cups. Can I also remind Chelsea fans that their 2013 Europa League was won after being knocked out of the champions League. I won't talk about Baku.

  • @arsi982000
    @arsi982000 Pƙed rokem +2

    14:29, he literally went 38 games unbeaten in 03/04 and won the Premier League title before he went to ChelseađŸ€Šâ€â™‚ïž

  • @CFC.NobarR
    @CFC.NobarR Pƙed rokem +1

    It’s like comparing Liverpool and United.
    Liverpool’s the biggest English club since they’re the most successful, United’s the biggest club since they’re the most popular.
    Same goes for Chelsea and Arsenal.
    Chelsea - Success
    Arsenal - Popularity

  • @2three362
    @2three362 Pƙed rokem +11

    As much as it hurt to say it, these lot have one up us with those two CL trophies. BAku was just the cherry on top. Generally though, as far as impact is concerned on the way people see the game and enjoy it, they will never be as big as The Arsenal. People don't get the influence of that club. No club in England can compare to the influence that The Arsenal has on the game. The Arsenal is literally an institution of football!

    • @danniwilder2198
      @danniwilder2198 Pƙed rokem

      Good grief what delusional drivel. Arsenal are minnows on the international stage, hardly seen, hardly known of.

  • @darkbydesign1031
    @darkbydesign1031 Pƙed rokem +4

    the sad thing is for these 2 clubs Newcastle has arrived to take everything

    • @danniwilder2198
      @danniwilder2198 Pƙed rokem

      As big as Newcastle are, they don't compare in size with the likes of Chelsea & Arsenal these days.

  • @iculucas4086
    @iculucas4086 Pƙed rokem

    Matis randomly says Bodo Glimt had me dying

  • @Sadiq111
    @Sadiq111 Pƙed rokem +6

    Their argument is based on the 2 CL trophies they have won. What happens if Arteta wins CL in the next 4 years.

    • @skyguysXD
      @skyguysXD Pƙed rokem +1

      Sane people know arsenal was bigger than Chelsea but it's flipped. Two ucl in the last decade and baku alone. If arteta wins the ucl and he is building a squad that could do that

    • @amakky1989
      @amakky1989 Pƙed rokem +2

      Funny thing is I KNOW he will

    • @victorchibuko4002
      @victorchibuko4002 Pƙed rokem +3

      I swear the don’t know what Arteta might do in the next few years 😂💔🎉

    • @Sadiq111
      @Sadiq111 Pƙed rokem +4

      2 CL don't make Chelsea bigger than Arsenal. It's a weak argument. Chelsea has been lucky with a generous owner and the fact there was no FFP until 2011. FFP is not perfect, but it would have slowed them down.

    • @Sadiq111
      @Sadiq111 Pƙed rokem +1

      ​@@amakky1989 I believe it too.

  • @bigdaddynuts.
    @bigdaddynuts. Pƙed rokem +5

    Oh Arsenal - 48 trophies....Chelsea - 32 trophies

  • @OkA-007
    @OkA-007 Pƙed rokem +1

    This conversation brought the Arsenal vs Barca 2006 final to memory. That was OUR time and had we won it, this lot wouldn't be running thier mouths like they are now😒

  • @CitehFan1894
    @CitehFan1894 Pƙed rokem +6

    We won more trophies than Chelsea pre money

    • @JUFFAIR101
      @JUFFAIR101 Pƙed rokem +2

      City still has more league titles than Chelsea

    • @CitehFan1894
      @CitehFan1894 Pƙed rokem

      @@JUFFAIR101 ya but no one speaks on it

    • @strzebowiska
      @strzebowiska Pƙed rokem

      As far as I remember MC won the league twice pre-PL and couple of FA Cups as well plus one European title in 1970, which I remember watching as a kid, but not a fan :)

    • @CitehFan1894
      @CitehFan1894 Pƙed rokem

      @@strzebowiska exactly

  • @tashrif46
    @tashrif46 Pƙed rokem +1

    7:52 yeah what was that Sophie đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

  • @gdogg4002
    @gdogg4002 Pƙed rokem +1

    Rory is a realist, good debate

  • @Baldur452
    @Baldur452 Pƙed rokem +7

    Arsenal.

  • @Charlie-xi4kc
    @Charlie-xi4kc Pƙed rokem +7

    Love the show. I swear every time I hear Rory on a show I learn a new word 😂😂

  • @mrkray7515
    @mrkray7515 Pƙed rokem +2

    Chelsea fans literally said we have more European trophy’s and then in the next sentence they say it doesn’t matter 😂😂😂😂

  • @JEUXolim
    @JEUXolim Pƙed rokem +1

    Arsenal fan here but it’s been almost 2 decades and that last champions league cemented Chelsea kings of London sadly. But we’re hunting them down watch out

  • @Perera_95
    @Perera_95 Pƙed rokem +6

    Who has more trophies đŸ†đŸ€” also a gold one in fact hmmm 


    • @thomastuchel1726
      @thomastuchel1726 Pƙed rokem

      Ty burner account

    • @thomastuchel1726
      @thomastuchel1726 Pƙed rokem

      @King Darwin 10 seats are better then 1 lambo then innit?

    • @stevearno9726
      @stevearno9726 Pƙed rokem

      @@thomastuchel1726 if those 10 seats are in a truck your Lambo is still gonna get crushed.

  • @theblackprotagonist5936
    @theblackprotagonist5936 Pƙed rokem +1

    In the last 18 meetings,(two of which had an fa cup on the line) Arsenal have won 9 and drawn 5.
    Between 98 and 04 we played 18 times without Chelsea getting a single win.

    • @danniwilder2198
      @danniwilder2198 Pƙed rokem

      theblackprotagonist5936 I believe those 18 meetings not only had two FA Cups on the line but also had one European trophy on the line as well, yes?
      In the last 19 seasons Chelsea have finished above Arsenal in the league 16 times.

    • @theblackprotagonist5936
      @theblackprotagonist5936 Pƙed rokem

      @@danniwilder2198 Did football start 19 years ago?
      The 100 years before that Arsenal finished above Chelsea for majority of them 😂
      Arsenal have more then double the league titles.

  • @MadaraUchiha-vd2bx
    @MadaraUchiha-vd2bx Pƙed rokem +1

    Both clubs are big in their own way, hate to say it but Chelsea overtook us with ucl titles though. We may be a bigger club in theory but at the end of the day it’s the “Big trophies” that count!

  • @bySoundz
    @bySoundz Pƙed rokem +3

    Champions of Europe you’ll never sing that! 😂😂

  • @thebrownExplorer99
    @thebrownExplorer99 Pƙed rokem +5

    There's only one club in London with 2 champions league:)

    • @hugobossman1509
      @hugobossman1509 Pƙed rokem

      Only one with a champions leauge fullstop

    • @fenty331
      @fenty331 Pƙed rokem +2

      Bought and paid for

    • @goldenstateswarriorsbandwa4842
      @goldenstateswarriorsbandwa4842 Pƙed rokem

      Bro there’s not even one London club other than Chelsea who has one champions league. Chelsea has won more European competitions than all London clubs combined.

    • @thogdenthegoat
      @thogdenthegoat Pƙed rokem +4

      And only one with 0 loses in a season :)

    • @festavision
      @festavision Pƙed rokem +4

      Only one club in London with over ten league titles. Almost three times as many as Chelsea. Almost twice as many Fa cups.
      Can't say Chelsea is a bigger club when it's only came to talk in the last tens years while Arsenal have been the most dominant London team for many decades, Chelsea have been relegated in my lifetime so it's extremely difficult to see Chelsea as a bigger club. But it depends how you define 'bigger' club

  • @Robert-rt9li
    @Robert-rt9li Pƙed rokem

    The guy said 1955 to 1997 is 25 years with a straight face 😂😂😂

  • @lukelocks9083
    @lukelocks9083 Pƙed rokem +1

    Arsenal but the gap has closed significantly.
    It isn't just about European cups, it's also size & spread of the fan base is also a factor, stadium, TV draw, history.
    When Arsenal played the Thai national team, the stadium was full of Thai's wearing Arsenal shirts, that wouldn't that have happened with CFC.
    For me in EPL, taking all in consideration the Top3 is: MUFC, LIverpool, Arsenal, then CFC.

    • @strzebowiska
      @strzebowiska Pƙed rokem

      Forgot MCFC with 6 PL titles, which is more than CFC-5, AFC-3 and LFC-1.

  • @clairedouglas1726
    @clairedouglas1726 Pƙed rokem +3

    Arsenal are the biggest club in London

  • @khaderogle9482
    @khaderogle9482 Pƙed rokem +3

    European heritage is something arsenal don’t have.

  • @angelacollins8495
    @angelacollins8495 Pƙed rokem +1

    Been going chelsea years arsenal probably bigger club but chelsea fan base always been good especially away support in the 80s and 90s

    • @strzebowiska
      @strzebowiska Pƙed rokem

      It's gone. Nowadays people call the Bridge a library. Watch the Chelsea fan tv cover from the games and you'll get why's so.

  • @lateefhassan9447
    @lateefhassan9447 Pƙed rokem +1

    Think that t-shirt's a bit too big for you Cecil

  • @francie6278
    @francie6278 Pƙed rokem +15

    I think the answer to this question is definitely a lot closer than Arsenal fans want to admit, Chelsea have made staggering progress to catch Arsenal over the years.

    • @GoopGaming66
      @GoopGaming66 Pƙed rokem +6

      they have, but there is still a clear gap there

    • @Sadiq111
      @Sadiq111 Pƙed rokem +1

      Progress you have made is realized by spending funds the club hasn't generated. Abramovich money. FFP was introduced in 2011.

    • @thomastuchel1726
      @thomastuchel1726 Pƙed rokem

      @@Sadiq111 not our fault ur owners are greedy whats stopping ur owners from spending? His richer then abramovich I bet if he spent the same u wouldnt had said this 😑

    • @mrmaestro1896
      @mrmaestro1896 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@thomastuchel1726 let me school you during 2010s we had two majority owners fighing for control soon as kronke gained full control in 2018 we have spent money since then now you see the spending coming to fruitin watch the space ⌚

    • @afckajjansi
      @afckajjansi Pƙed rokem

      @@GoopGaming66 Chelsea are bigger than arsenal, it's not even a debate. Arsenal fan channel hosting this says it all.

  • @heilandgunner
    @heilandgunner Pƙed rokem +1

    What I'd really like to know is how, under FFP rules, were Chelsea allowed the write off the ÂŁ1.7Billion that they owed the Russian?

  • @ar5006
    @ar5006 Pƙed rokem +1

    If it was the other way round and arsenal had beaten chelsea in baku, We would never hear the end of it from Robbie

  • @Baldur452
    @Baldur452 Pƙed rokem +2

    Matis quickly forgot 80% of their summer targets choose Barca over them.

    • @thomastuchel1726
      @thomastuchel1726 Pƙed rokem +1

      And those players got sent into europa

    • @skyguysXD
      @skyguysXD Pƙed rokem +1

      Those barca players might face you in europa league bud

    • @Baldur452
      @Baldur452 Pƙed rokem +2

      Matis said arsenal can't get players of real madrid and these big clubs, convincingly ignoring his club can't either.

    • @amakky1989
      @amakky1989 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@thomastuchel1726 And your manager (account name) was sent to the shadow realm

    • @thomastuchel1726
      @thomastuchel1726 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@amakky1989 and that manager won chelsea another ucl which 26 managers from arsenal couldnt even do đŸ€«

  • @user-bn9fc1lv3v
    @user-bn9fc1lv3v Pƙed rokem +3

    Cecil clearly out of his depth , just the occasional awkward laughter đŸ€Šâ€â™‚ïžđŸ€Šâ€â™‚ïžđŸ˜‚

  • @KrisCollymore
    @KrisCollymore Pƙed rokem +1

    I thought that Rory and Matisse had beef?

  • @user-cw7uu8wh1j
    @user-cw7uu8wh1j Pƙed rokem +3

    As a Juve fan I have to say that chelsea has taken over in terms of titles over Arsenal. In all their history they’ve been to one final. That not enough. Chelsea for me is a bigger club now.

  • @austinhoward381
    @austinhoward381 Pƙed rokem +3

    Arsenal have won two European trophies before they were called UEFA. They were prestigious competitions for the time.
    The 3 biggest clubs in England are
    1 Man UTD
    2 Liverpool
    3 The mighty Arsenal
    Chelsea aren’t in the conversation Facts!
    This video forgot to mention all the work Arsenal did for multicultural community’s and the woman's game. The club is utter class! It’s more than just trophies.