What They Don't Tell You About IBUPROFEN- Affects Healing?
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- "Famous" Physical Therapists Bob Schrupp & Brad Heineck welcome Chris the Pharmacist who discusses the good, the bad, and the ugly about Ibuprofen. Other names for Ibuprofen include Ibucon, Ibulite, Myofen, Bren, Brufen, Bufferin, Emflam, Febrillix, Ibubid, Ibuflamar, Ibugesic, Nuren, Sugafen, etc.
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Thank you very much.
I'm almost 75, I have left knee paining for almost a year, tried all kinds of remedies, but
pain subsided a little and walking better with Ibuprofen. Thank you Bob, Brad and Chris.
You guys ALWAYS crack me up! I appreciate the valuable info you provide as well. The (unintended) humor is on point though 👌🏻
I love this information and your commitment to educate people every single day. Thanks Famous PTs on the Internet.
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Every video you guys do is excellent. I always hit the like button before your videos even start playing. I just know they will be good :)
This is so informative! Thank you so much, Bob and Brad xoxoxo
Dr. Chris looking at them while they are saying/doing their intro, and he thinks when they will be done cause he can't hold this laugh anymore :D .. I really love the intro and the videos, subbed recently and watching any video adds to my knowledge, much love
Informative video. One correction in your listing of ibuprofen names: Bufferin is *not* ibuprofen--it is aspirin, 325 mg, with buffering agents calcium and magnesium. Thanks.
I'm so glad I found you guys. Love your videos. Lots of great information. Keep up the good work!!!
physicaltherapyvideo love you guys, I go to all your videos and you both have helped me in many of my back issues
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I was advised to take Ibuprofen when I had injured shoulder tendons but it no effect whatsoever, went through a variety of prescription drugs ending with high dose Endone but still not much help with pain. Finally in desperation I worked out 1/2 a bottle of neat rum did the trick, it either dulled the pain or knocked me out so I could sleep. I sort of count rum as a "natural" remedy not a drug. Your CZcams stuff is great, very informative, I love how you are "the most famous PTs on the Internet, in our opinion, of course" - love it.
Grumpy Tony I had rotator cuff and biscep and I was told not to take Ibuprofen that it messes up healing of tendens
Love that you invited a pharmacist
Very good controlled discussion with nobody shouting anyone else down. All very clear and it has to be said good objective information. Viewing from the UK and it's good to know all the extra information about Ibuprofen that you never read in the information leaflets that come with the tablets. I found this very useful indeed.
I watch your videos often and always appreciate the information. WIth this one I was a little disappointed that the drug wasn't talked about in more detail... such as, my daughter ran college track and actually had to sign an agreement that she would not take Ibuprofen. When I asked why this was the coach explained that Advil causes bruises and soft tissue injuries to bleed more than it would have otherwise (simplistic explanation). Also, there was a Banff film about a cyclist that had pain that got worse and worse and swelled. When she got to the doctor he said that Advil was actually harming her condition. It would have been helpful to hear the details of when it is not recommended and how it hurts the body, other than stomach and kidney.
Hey. Just wanted to make you aware on the fact that Ibuprofen should not be taken in Acute injuries or any type of acute pain. Because Inflammation in our bodies is a natural healing response to injuries or stress of any kind. And suppression it with NSAIDs will definitely worsen it. It can be taken in chronic Inflammatory conditions which is not resolving but not in acute Injuries.
Thank you for the great information! Good to know about the downside of taking ibuprofen.
Very interesting! Going to share this video with my Facebook friends. Hope some of them will take the time to watch it.
I was in a serious accident back in 1991, after a few weeks in the hospital the doctor put me on ibuprofen. I thought it was safe. I had total knee replacement in May 2018, I did not want to take the opioid medication, I went with ibuprofen. Bad idea. The past week, Jan 26th, I was hospitalized with a server GI Bleed. When the GI doctor finally showed up the first thing he asks me. "Do I take any of the NSAID or aspirin?" A. Yes! He took me off of both. The doctor in the hospital said they were seeing more and more GI bleeds even in young people 20 and up. I have been on a steady diet of ibuprofen for almost 27 years.
It’s a blood thinner
i don't think you're supposed to take ibuprofen and aspirin at the same time
Aspirin *is* an NSAID, if you took that in addition to another NSAID, you were overdosing
Thats why you take it with food
Thanks for the information, I hope yoy have a full recovery.
Question: Over the many years of taking Ibuprofen, did you take it on an empty stomach or with food?
Love the episodes when the Pharmacist is there….very cool dude!
Such a great idea for a video, I use it all the time for headaches and period cramps!
Dangerous Woman
Treat the cause behind your headache Ma'am.....
Stop intoxicating your body...
Seek help from a Osteopathic Doctor, Chiropractic Doc and a good Nutritionist
me n my girl always lol at the intro xD
"2 most famous physical therapist on the intenet"
Ibuprofen inhibits prostaglandins, we need prostaglandins to heal , robbing peter to pay paul tho every illness is different. Do your due diligence,
Truth! Long term use of nsaids (ibuprofen and naproxen) almost killed me. It inhibits repair.
Big Pharma doesn't care! They have unregulated Shareholders that want a return on their investments!
@@bethannsmith4969how did it almost kill you may I ask cuz my doctor told me to take it for two weeks a few x per day, but I’m scared to take it
Inhibits by how much, completely irrelevant unless its measurable
Interesting! Thanks for the great video!
Did I miss the part about no NSAIDS for Chronic Congestive Heart Failure? That's the first thing they told me when I woke up in ICU after a heart attack that left heart damage. They told me I'd have chronic Congestive Heart Failure for the rest of my life and could never take Ibuprofen or any other NSAID again because it would negate all my heart medicines. Might want to add another video to your list to talk with that pharmacist again... about NSAIDs, high blood pressure and heart conditions again. Most people who take meds for high blood pressure... and those with high blood pressure who don't realize they have high blood pressure... don't realize how dangerous ibuprofen is to them... and how it can be the catalyst to pushing that BP problem into a full-fledged heart problem, heart attack or worse. Just saying... y'all not finished with this Vitamin-I series yet.
Damn
well that's why you should talk to your doctor before taking it. This is a physical therapy channel...
😊🎶🎶🎶Bob and Brad! The two most famous-physical therapists-on the internet 🎶🎶🎶😊👍🏼
I sing it everyday. 🤣
I do too!
@@bayha5065 same here
Bob's reference to working out as "weight lifting" and when he said "when you lift" gets all my respect!
This video has really helped my understand some of the side-effects I've been having while "weightlifting". I think the drug is messing with my gains as well as compromising my high blood pressure. I'm glad I came across it!
Nutrition is going to play a bigger part in pain aspects with strength training. Yes, you are going to hurt a bit no matter what, but if you are feeding your body properly it can be mitigated. Also remember... if you had a lay off for more than 3-4 weeks. Your first workout is going to be a killer. Many of you muscle fibers of become dormant and don't have electricity firing through them. The first week or two of coming back is soreness due to the fiber endings getting use to the electricity. Then after that is what I call the good pain.
@@jonlanier_ Form and compensation for certain weaknesses when lifting can also lead to pain later on even if eating perfectly. The pain is often an indicator to address that even if it felt okay when doing it.
This pharmacist said he takes Ibuprofin almost daily, which would seem to be over-use. Why not adjust diet to be anti-inflammatory? I think by featuring a Pharmacist, you might want to consider featuring a nutritionist or some other natural alternative point of view. Any drug like Ibuprofin that can raise blood pressure, used over the long term, would seem to have some perhaps unquantifiable effect on vascular health, which in turn is a strong factor in vascular dementia. Please do not be so softball on these topics. Now you have an audience and that brings responsibility. Much appreciation to you.
I agree and Paracetamol should be used when possible because it has less side-effects compared to NSAID's like Ibuprofen.
Lisa LaMagna is ibuprofen good for a toothache
@@SimonAZ Except for chronic liver damage...
I used it for my back that was injured. Somethings not right! Do not overuse. It started tearing up my stomach and I dropped it immediately! My relief gummies
I remember seeing a study that claimed taking over-the-counter painkillers on a daily basis caused people to get headaches and other painful conditions, i.e. the body became dependent upon the meds./created an imbalance unless taken
Also the colors used in the pills are highly toxic to the body, not to mention Bayer is the producer.... Which is the same company that thinks it's ok to sell HIV infected products to less fortunate countries, among other heinous things. These pills should be used on extremely rare occasions. If your body is aching then you have an imbalance within your body that needs to be addressed through nutrition, exercise, mental health etc., masking the problem will always be detrimental unless it is an acute injury or extreme disease. But there are many much safer and natural alternatives out there.
Ibuprofen has been recommended to stop uterine bleeding..like 600 mg during the day for prolonged period of time till ceasing. Isn't that unsafe?
Good information, Thanks!!!
love it , been taking I for years and doing fine.
Awesome ! Thanks for posting
Interesting info in light of an Australian study that was in the news on Feb 2. It concluded NSAIDs like Ibuprofen are no more clinically effective on back pain than placebo. That the G.I. risks out way the benefits. Based on my recent experience with back pain, I'll take the G.I. risk as needed. There was about a week that 4 tablets allowed me to sleep for a few hours in my hardwood chair. Thank you so much for your videos on exercises and stretches to relieve that pain. 7 weeks of doing the ones that help and I can't say I feel like a million dollars yet, but many days are $999,000 and sleeping at nights in bed...Priceless! . THANK YOU!
You should try Tylenol 3 for back pain. Ibuprofen only work for headaches for me and not as good as BC powder which is good. I’ve noticed wit a Tylenol 3 u can take one tablet and it relieves pain 5x better .
it's good to know, I used it all the time
I had a recent flare-up of Diverticulitis, which I haven't had for 15 years, and to relieve the pain and cure it faster, I "Water Fasted" for 4 days, and took Ibuprofen for only a couple days, primarily to relieve some headache in the morning, but I also feel that it helped reduce the bowel inflammation as well...
I never had any stomach upsets on an empty stomach, while fasting, or any other times..
But, in general, I only only use it sparingly...
I was hoping you would have spoken a lot more about how it can effect your stomach and how to heal from too much ibuprofen use
How much did you take how long yo stomach been in pain ? Bc my stomach been in pain as well but I only took one 200mg pill the other day or the day before and my stomach still feel funny
Such a good/helpful video.
Thanks Bob and Brad
I have inflammatory arthritis and take Advil pretty regularly but I’ve started to spontaneously bruise, did it in July and again last week after lifting weights for a few minutes, one on the inside of my right bicep and a dime size one on my left triceps. In July I fell in my yard just being a jackass and ended up with a nasty bruise that didn’t hurt. It’s disquieting because I convince myself it’s leukemia before calming myself down.
Once in the blue moon when I can't stand the inflammation any longer I take one, the relief lasts quite a while so I am thankful for them! I woke up a few days ago to an excruciating back pain where I never had pain, so off to the chiropractor and came back a bit better but still sitting sideways as it still hurts, back on tuesday, (friday today) and hope she can fix it!
Grind down 2 pills, sprinkle the bits on the top half of a damp wet wipe fold the bottom half up. Place wipe on the affected area and hold into place with cling film wrapped around your body a couple of times but not to tight. The pills go direct to the sore area and leaves your organs alone.
Have you heard of arthritis caused from leaky gut because of NSAIDs?? I looked at my health journal, and each time I have taken ibuprofen, My body flared up into joint pain!! Now I’m going to heal my gut and never take it again.
In Australia we only sell 200mg of ibuprofen, and it's HIGHLY regulated. It's considered very safe so....
Thanks a lot ... I have been getting root canals I haven’t been to the dentist in ten years and the dentist told me to go a week without ibuprofen but I feel like breaking my head on the door ! So I take 2 morning 2 at night now instead of 7 a day.. I been taking for 3 weeks straight now
Chris needs his own CZcams channel.
Go Butler Bulldogs! I grew up about a mile from the Butler campus. :)
Remarkable, after the COVID season... Discussing how you have a cold, with a fever, and sit in a group together--
We may never do that again!!
I used to have asthma when I was really young. I got prescribed iboprufen for my jaw a last week . I was so happy coz the pain was unbearable and this solved 70 percent of the pain . After a week of using it I started finding it harder to breathe and got scared so now I'm going to stop using it. The doctor said the jaw pain should gradually disappear but it's been nearly a month . I don't know what to do. I used to take other NSAIDS but I only have problems with this one.
It was probably harder to breath because of overdose or taking them before eating, you need eat when taking ibuprofen
Bumping this intro everyday 😎😎
My doctor told me to always drink lots of water when taking Ibuprofen - flush the kidneys.
Your doctor should have told you “drink lots of water” PERIOD
why would you use Ibu on a daily basis? sending mixed messages. 7:44 Bob you hit the nail on the head about the healing cycle. Would look into arnica as long as you have no allergies.
If your doctor says... I'm studying to become a dr and I will look after my patients by recommending as little medication as possible. Often for example ginger and apple cider vinegar do better job than any meds.
I guess this is what all doctors should do? It depends on the case. But sometimes a higher dose over a shorter period of time is better, for example with drugs that you shouldn't stay on over a longer period of time because it'll damage your body long term more with a lower dose. So as little as possible is a very vague term. Although I agree with you 100% on recommending diet tips. Diet should always be part of a treatment plan, and even to prevent. So if that's the kind of doctor you'll become, someone who cares for a holistic approach, you'll be of great service! Wishing you and future patients the best!
Sadly, ibuprofen is known as a prostaglandin/COX-2 enzyme blocker. Prostaglandins in the vasculature fight against the effects of things like hyaline deposits and other inflammatory processes which can cause issues ranging from embolisms all the way to atherosclerosis and fibrosis of the vasculature.
These prostaglandins also are in the vasculature of the renals or kidneys, so if you take that ibuprofen for too long, it can take away a good enough amount of prostaglandins to set off a scarring process called mysangial cell deposition in the vessels of the kidneys, which can bring the filtration rate way down, causing you to be threatened with serious kidney disease or failure.
So how much can you take? Most/all drugs have side effects but can be critically important. So the rub is finding a balance between benefit and harm. I take a little ibuprofen once or twice a week and my doctor said I could take about 3x that much. Inflammation is bad, sometimes mortal, so why ignore it?
So informative thank you!
I don't know why, but it really helps me sleep. I don't often have trouble sleeping but when I do, 1 or 2 Ibuprophens work very well.
They will make you addict . Dont use constantly
@@AhmadAli-yb3pr exactly...... Use them with atleast a week gap minimum(doctor suggestion)
The problem I had with ibuprofen is the high dose stuff can kill you quick. I'm referring to the 800mg stuff. I was using as prescribed and I nearly died in my sleep. Fortunately I started vomiting blood. The coffee grounds looking type. Which got me to the first hospital. They quickly sent me to the second hospital and started transfusions 3 bags later and lesson learned. Experience is the best teacher. Learn from mine... Be very cautious with high dose ibuprofen. The danger is undeniable. I have no opinion on moderate use.
Why do you use it on a daily basis? In the UK, you can only buy small quantities at a time.
Am watching this at 3AM trying to see what to do. I took tab of ibuprofen on a full stomach after dinner.My stomach is on fire.I should have stayed with my headache. Thanks for the info
Thank you norm McDonald for your information
Used it for sinus Infections helped loads!
Ive got arthritis...my doctors told me to take them long term 1 in morning and 1 at night ,200mg each dose.....is this safe to do.....I also go to the gym 4 times a week....
You shouldn't take NSAIDs when you've bruised / injured yourself that may involve bleeding as it can make it much worse. Can take Paracetamol, then switch to Ibuprofen later. (note: notadoctor). For Osteoarthritis Ibuprofen can at least get you moving again with no or less pain, which should help the condition and keep your blood-flow going.
Grind down 2 pills, sprinkle the bits on the top half of a damp wet-wipe, fold the bottom half up. Place wipe on the affected area and hold into place with cling film wrapped around your body, leg, arm, head carefully a couple of times but not to tight. The pills go direct to the sore area and leaves your organs alone.
I don’t think that makes any difference. Ibuprofen tells you body to reduce elements that cause inflammation and such. That’s what affects your stomach lining, for instance, rather than tablet consumption.
Hi guys, so I have osteoarthritis in my ankle, I'm heading skiing in Feb and am wondering what is the best approach to taking ibuprofen, I was thinking of taking it daily for a week before I go and then throughout the trip, I can ski but it does cause me pain, but hey life goes on so I'm just trying to make the best of a bad situation.
I take very little pills and potions but I appreciate that sometime needs must.
Thanks for the help.
I find it even helps my chronic rhino-sinusitis.
Paracetamol works well. It's theoretically COX 3 inhibitor ( wilson & gisvold) while other literatures say it's a COX 2 inhibitor. But still it wouldn't be as bad as ibuprofen.
I just stripped my esophagus taking ibuprofen. I had new false teeth and needed something like this but I didn't take with food and not enough water.
I have a friend who's in his late 50s and runs marathons. He also has bad knees. His doctor has him take FOUR Advil before he runs. He says he couldn't run without it.
Maybe he should stop running.. His body is telling him to stop and he's not listening to his body
one runs to stay healthy not run to take drugs , cant he go swim or something
It's likely the meds that are causing his bad knees. He's not taking time off to heal because the meds make him feel like there's no issue
When I allow ibuprofen to dissolve on my tong it stung so much, I didn't like the idea of something so irritating going down my GI tract, but doing the same experiment with aspirin it wasn't so irritating.
As a heart patient, my cardio doc say they cause heart attacks , I wonder who is right
Can you guys do a video on pain and cannabis ?
Ibuprofen withdrawal can cause tension headaches, the pain in the back of your neck for months after the last dose.
NSAID'S are dangerous. This guy on video is pushing it. Try Terry Naturally's Curamin Extra Strength. It is safe and natural. (Turmeric) and is effective in relieving inflammation.
Marijuana works the best for me. Reduces pain. It also puts you into a more "sensitive" head space. Makes stretching slowly feel amazing.
Can you pls tell me more about back neck pain after taking ibuprofen...i just stopped 12 400 mg tablets of ibuprofen and i am experiencing non stop neck pains.
Extremely informative! Thanks!
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Gel form of ibuprofen is better on your stomach. Don’t use the powder kind, just gel caps
I guess the people in the office didn’t know you were recording.
Hi, does Ibuprofen affect bone healing? I have a femur neck fracture.
Thank you for addressing the fact that ibuprofen slows healing !!!! If you have Sciatica do not take ibuprofen!!! Research the latest studies.
Thank you for this video 🙏😇🌈❤️
Unfortunately I’m using 800mg every 4-5 hours (minus sleep time). I have DDD & it’s the only thing that helps. Hope it doesn’t cause harm in the long run?
Thankyou for this video. With this information I have chosen to cease use. Great channel.
^fyi only on non prescription dose.
for me, taking ibuprofen chronically for hip pain eventually led to more pain.
i think ibuprophen can mask the sciatic symptoms so after 4 weeks I have only been taking it after a doctor appointment and using ice which helps the pain go away temporarily so far. i wish this video had addressed this situation. what do you think?
squatting and deadlifting cured my sciatica in a miraculous way
@@thyrassword9698 worst advice ever jeez
Horrible on the skin,itching,hives
I started to take ibuprofen every morning for my lower back pain.
Try using magnesium oil spray on the pain
I just took the 800 mg for pre-Influenza pain and aches and within 30’minutes I felt like a brand new me!!!
There is a study grading nsaids a "c" in treatment of respiratory infection but that was from several years ago.
I don't take it often but will include it in part of my regimen during an URI
Doctor here saying, actually ibuprofen & Tylenol can help mildly with acute heartache.
😂😂😂😂Heard the opening song and had to check the sub count.
is it safe for people with hypertension to take ibuprofen for reliefing pain for their injuries regularly or daily?
Had bowel obstruction with perforation after taking naproxen routinely. I never take nsaids. Too risky!
I get migraine head aces I end having to take IBUPROFEN to get rid of them fast because they are bad I take 6 I have told my doctor this and he said that this is OK is that right.
Another great video by the way can it be used for arthritis. I'm beginning to get arthritis in my fingers.
get off gluten and grains and dairy
The drs. here in GTA (toronto) often recommend otc tylenol, advil, etc. anti inflammatory diet is helpful, but suffering from osteoarthritis as I do, it is something I need on a daily basis. thank you for offering this talk, it is very informativde.
Susan Lee-Hamilton I also have osteoarthritis, and have taken Celebrex for many years, then changed to 4-5 Advil on a daily basis- cuts back a bit on the pain. The Celebrex, which they didn’t mention, seemed to make me puff up more with water weight, and made me anxious, but I think it was slightly better at relieving pain. I got no relief from Celecoxib, the generic, much less expensive, and my pharmacist insisted it was the same as brand name, but the price was too high and so now it’s Advil for me.
Can you take ibuprofen with Norco?
Had oral surgery and my mouth is sooo sore... I'm trying to stretch these few Narcos but im in pain
I have never had a problem taking Ibuprofen before. But about 2 weeks ago I woke up in ghe morning extremely dizzy after taking a Ibuprofen when I went to bed that night! I have a terrible ear infection right now and I want to take Ibuprofen so bad but I'm so scared I'll wake up dizzy 😢 the messed up part is I don't even know if the ibuprofen was the cause of the dizziness 🥺
i also was having blurry vision,went to evry specialist all told me my eyes fine.i as taking 6-8 ibu at a time 2-3x day on average.stopped and no more blurry vision
Your kidneys thank you.
Ibuprofen is the best at pain relief over the counter I have ever used and when taking the night time version it knocks me out within a half hour. I don't use it much mostly just for bad head aches, which are usually due to dehydration and I drink about a quart of water to help with the hydration.
What about if taking 2-3 even 4-6 200mg Ibuprofen pills and it literally has no effect on my pain level? Then what?
I took ibuprofen daily for a few weeks and it gave me a double umbilical hernia. My sister worked at Phiser and said it actually had small particles of glass in it to reduce swelling but not to take it every day. She did and it gave her a stomach ulcer. I also heard of it doing the same thing to someone else who took it daily for a while too. I also can't take aspirin because my blood is too thin. A baby aspirin makes me dizzy and a regular size makes me fall down and sometimes blackout. Asprin should also not be promoted for everyone's use too for medical reasons.
There is a big variety of anti-inflamatory drugs and pain relievers, you dont need Ibuprofen, its the worst medicine ever !
Yeah I agree. It would be great if more of this sort of info was shared in the above. Some may thinks ulcers are rare and unlikely so, nah won’t happen to me, til they talk to someone that has ulcers from this, and see that’s probably what they also used to think.
Laura Cosgrove, how much did you take daily?
Sorry, can I just check, did you say THEY HAVE GLASS IN THEM?!? No wonder they put holes in your stomach 😲😲😲 That is criminal! They should be done for murder!! I wondered why the coating felt gritty 🤬🤬🤬
@@1dayfreeI’m pretty sure the “glass” in the pills is silicon dioxide which is an anti-caking agent to prevent clumping of the medication
I've been using IBEBROKEN for years and the advil gel caps are my preferred NSAID
I think my liver is damaged from ibuprofen use I have a pain in my right abdomen
So is it safe to take with peripheral neuropathy?
1 was living on them for 35 yrs with no probs,recently i started getting rebound headaches and my pressure was high.i stopped taking and everything normaal mow
very bad long term..
"if it makes you feel better you take whatever you want" - whatever you say dr.
If you have joint problem you take NSAIDS to reduce inflamation and to stop rebuilding cartiledge.