Our 'Age of Anger'

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  • čas přidán 10. 03. 2022
  • Anger, rage, fury: it seems like everywhere we look right now, we see rising temperatures, smoldering resentment, blood boiling, floods of emotion. From Trump to Brexit, Hindu Nationalism to Black Lives Matter, from Hollywood me too to Pandemic Protestors, ISIS to white nationalists, Ukraine to Fox News, to my ongoing conflict with my unreasonably slow computer, it seems, as the historian Pankaj Mishra has argued, like we’re living in an age of anger.
    I look at the history and philosophy of anger. What is it? What triggers it? Is it ever good? I look at the Stoics - including Epictetus and Seneca - Aristotle, Christianity, Enlightenment figures like Rousseau, Hume, and Adam Smith, through to modern day anger management psychology. I make some surprising findings about the usefulness of a misunderstood emotion.
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Komentáře • 461

  • @violetchristophe
    @violetchristophe Před 2 lety +123

    I think anger can be a cover for more vulnerable feelings at times.

    • @ericarn
      @ericarn Před 2 lety +17

      Definitely! Sometimes when I’m afraid of something it manifests as anger in me. I try to understand my feelings before expressing them, though.

    • @tylercooper1551
      @tylercooper1551 Před 2 lety +6

      Of course it is, anger is a nasty defense mechanism

    • @jeremys1648
      @jeremys1648 Před rokem +12

      In Buddhist understanding anger is a secondary emotion, meaning it can never be the first response to stimuli. The primary emotion, sadness/fear/guilt are not allowed for western males and will be replaced by anger in a matter of milliseconds. Buddhist practice is turning those milliseconds into seconds so we have a choice how to respond. Sorry so long winded, hopefully something useful for you in there

    • @jeremys1648
      @jeremys1648 Před rokem +3

      @Merula Amethyst yes I did, nice catch ty

    • @ullintalulna7066
      @ullintalulna7066 Před rokem +3

      and that's all. i think that is the only answer needed to identify the essence of anger

  • @HoodGrownGenius
    @HoodGrownGenius Před 2 lety +150

    Only 15 mins in and this video has helped me more than my psychologists!!

    • @jalopenogardiner5323
      @jalopenogardiner5323 Před 2 lety +17

      It is comforting to examine History and see that our current situation isn't unique and is normal. History also provides tools & possible solutions to our challenges. The best thing about history ? Its FREE 😊

  • @leftykeys6944
    @leftykeys6944 Před rokem +37

    Anger has its place. It is the most appropriate response in situations where our personal boundaries have been crossed.

    • @unreliablenarrator6649
      @unreliablenarrator6649 Před rokem +8

      Depends on situation. Often people have personal boundaries that come in conflict with culture or situations where anger will only compound harm. Sometimes you need to stretch your boundaries or tolerate transgressions you cannot control., Put another way, some people are wound too tight for situations where their boundaries are impossible to observe.

    • @FringeWizard2
      @FringeWizard2 Před 11 měsíci +5

      As someone who has been through a ton of shit and never been angry, I don't think so. You don't need to be angry to beat people or otherwise deal with their transgressions. I sometimes wonder though if maybe displaying and feeling anger could have prevented some people from toying with me so much that it had to come down to some serious corrective action.

    • @leftykeys6944
      @leftykeys6944 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@FringeWizard2 -- Bully for you.
      You can think what you like. We’re all different, and we each have our own way of responding to boundary violations. Anger is my defense, and words are my weapon of choice. Have a nice day.

    • @FringeWizard2
      @FringeWizard2 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@leftykeys6944 I don't care what you do dude I just want to know would you recommend anger for me? Should I use anger myself?

    • @leftykeys6944
      @leftykeys6944 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@FringeWizard2 -- Angry much?
      Please re-read my opening statement. Have a nice day.

  • @jochananberohart3578
    @jochananberohart3578 Před rokem +9

    Buddhism in everyday life does not involve completely overcoming one's anger. Anger as an emotion that motivates action is recognized as valuable. It is a signpost, an indicator of something. Rather, practicing Buddhism requires seeing this anger, feeling it. Only when anger is repressed, not understood, is it a problem, because it then condenses into hatred. Therefore, anger is also something valuable in practiced Buddhism. It is about how I deal with this anger!

  • @middleofnowhere1313
    @middleofnowhere1313 Před 2 lety +42

    The fight or flight response carried into modern society turns fear to rage, and we have unscrupulous individuals who use that to manipulate and prey on people.

    • @middleofnowhere1313
      @middleofnowhere1313 Před 2 lety +5

      @@DimensionRunner Oh we've got a multitude of narcissists also. I tend to think those who enjoy creating problems at least have sociopathic or narcissistic tendencies. It's certainly not normal. But even regular normal people run around angry because they're scared. Unplugging from social media and not constantly watching the news are the best solutions I have for that.

    • @middleofnowhere1313
      @middleofnowhere1313 Před rokem +4

      @@lorishu48103 Good question. From the interactions I've had, the best answer I can give is "sometimes." They absolutely do fly into rages but they also use this to manipulate others. Sometimes I wonder how many narc rages are real and how many are fake. Everything, with them, boils down to how to use other people.

  • @hexapusink
    @hexapusink Před rokem +18

    Jerry: "You've got a little rage."
    George: "I know. And now they want me to bottle it up. It makes me so mad!"

  • @krampusz
    @krampusz Před rokem +15

    As long as there are so huge differences in power between people, the main source of suffering and hurt is not anger.
    Powerful people can act level headed and calm when they hurt tens of thousands of employees in the company they own, can order the invasion of another country and mass murder by the military they control. They will not even flinch when they explain that this is the way of the world. That their interest is more important than others' and they must suffer or die for it. They will be so calm, so civil during all this.

    • @notexactlyrocketscience
      @notexactlyrocketscience Před rokem +2

      those people were, at some point, angry. and then decided to implement violent plants.

  • @emmettobrian1874
    @emmettobrian1874 Před rokem +19

    The most useful insight I've heard about anger, is that it's a secondary emotion. It never arises without the person first feeling pain or fear. So remember that the next time you see someone angry.
    On a basic level, displaying anger is often intended to cause fear. Why? Because fear is a demotivator. It's supposed to get someone to stop doing something. I'm not making a value judgement on that, just saying that it's the basic mechanism.

  • @baidawibai
    @baidawibai Před 2 lety +307

    As a certified angry black man I truly enjoyed this video. Might seem a bit trivial but I would've loved to see Mr. Rogers' bit on anger management in children featured somewhere in the beginning of this video. Nevertheless, excellent work as always!

    • @jayt7178
      @jayt7178 Před 2 lety +26

      Lol @ “as a certified angry black man,”
      That’s funny af.

    • @AdaptiveApeHybrid
      @AdaptiveApeHybrid Před 2 lety +11

      Why do you think you're so angry? Just curious. I'm also very angry, bona fide angry

    • @baidawibai
      @baidawibai Před 2 lety +62

      @@AdaptiveApeHybrid thinking of what I had to endure from childhood, throughout my life wrt to the color of my skin alone is enough to be angry, with a specific focus on colonialism. Then there were all the other things that came with it, growing up in a poor/working class neighborhood. Safe to say, I was radicalized from a very early age.

    • @AdaptiveApeHybrid
      @AdaptiveApeHybrid Před 2 lety +15

      @@baidawibai thanks for the response

    • @baidawibai
      @baidawibai Před 2 lety +16

      @@AdaptiveApeHybrid no probs! What made you angry?

  • @ktmggg
    @ktmggg Před rokem +23

    Twenty years ago when I was in college, I tried to write a term paper with anger as the subject matter. I gave up in frustration because the research needed was so vast, the time constraints burdensome, and my perfectionism lead to despair. Thank you for tackling this subject skillfully.

  • @satya3290
    @satya3290 Před 2 lety +66

    thank you so much for this video, it is a vital discussion. from the perspective of a non-white, non-western woman of some social privilege in my country of origin due to my caste... as an outsider to the west while being within the west, i see discourse coming from privileged genders/classes/castes that is tone deaf to what they will never encounter -- this absolutely happens in my country too. they won't be able to understand what anger triggered by millennia of social oppression is. there is a false equating of different types of rage produced by differing contexts, since we don't have front and centre in such discussions the voices of the most vulnerable and oppressed.

    • @kathyadair8552
      @kathyadair8552 Před 10 měsíci

      Thank for your extra, less recognized, input. Kinda like, Hindu vs. Jainist.
      And, here, in the States 🇺🇲 Minorities get trampled on. Most do not even see it.

  • @brianag1175
    @brianag1175 Před rokem +16

    My experience as a human so far is that anger is healthy, useful, and necessary.
    I was apart of a group that professed we can't afford to he angry and we must be rid of it or it will kill us. I took that to heart and wanted to fulfill that so badly. I would try and act slowly and rationally. I'd tolerate so much b.s. so much b.s I stayed in abusive situations and relationships because I wouldn't allow my anger to exist. Once I finally got angry, I started to protect myself and say fuck your comfortability, fuck being spiritually fit. In therapy my therapist said that my anger is good and is there as an ultimate form of self love and care. It's there to protect me. When I suppress it, of course I'll eventually get depressed and be more likely to take shit.
    As a human, I say listen to your anger. Its trying to tell you something just like every other emotion. EVERYTHING in life is about balance.

    • @ronnestman4696
      @ronnestman4696 Před 11 měsíci +2

      That was well said and is totally on target for me. From this day forward I’m going to embrace my anger and direct it towards it’s appropriate recipients. Thank you!

  • @dreamsinoctarine
    @dreamsinoctarine Před rokem +8

    As someone who has a low level burning rage at all times I've used it in my work as a community organizer & activist, went no contact with my abusive mother, and am working towards another degree that I think will be my best possible way of creating the better world I see in my mind that I wish for all of humanity. I LOVE my anger/rage because I've been able to use it as a constructive, motivating force in my life. (though still working on those road rage/slow computer frustration issues lolsob)

  • @0Shanna
    @0Shanna Před 2 lety +12

    Thank you. I've been suppressing my righteous anger towards injustices done to me so much I've been unable to do anything, to stand up for myself and speak out against those injustices just because out of fear for the anger, out of indoctrination or learned behavior that ALL anger is bad. I see now that I've been suppressing it so much that it's even been causing major lingering depression. I have been frozen by fear that all anger is bad.
    It is because of THIS VIDEO that I've been able to see this and break through that perpetuating vicious circle. And it truly is vicious! An apt naming.
    Thank you So Very Much.
    I hope I can make progress with this information, though progress is never easy or simple. And I hope I'm not the only one feeling or seeing that fear of anger is freezing (my) progress, even though anger is scary.
    Please leave a comment if you're like me and recognize this too. I'm sure talking about it will help us, even if it might be only a bit of help. Progress is never easy.

  • @blackfeatherstill348
    @blackfeatherstill348 Před 2 lety +26

    What about passive aggression? Not being openly angry can be just as damaging and vindictive toward others than expressing anger.

    • @gregoryallen0001
      @gregoryallen0001 Před 2 lety +1

      imo america itself has such a poisonous culture of passive aggressive anger.. never talked about 👁

    • @oldishandwoke-ish1181
      @oldishandwoke-ish1181 Před rokem

      The classic female weapon.

    • @mr_b_hhc
      @mr_b_hhc Před rokem +1

      Very true, being passively aggressive can have a number of causes, fear of conflict, fear of violence, attempting to manipulate others psychologically, attempting to mask or thinly veil annoyance and many more. They all boil down to one thing in my experience, an inability to direct anger in a healthy way. And until humans are perfect, this is going to happen, it is just heading toward the opposite end of the spectrum from physically and aggressively lashing out at every sign of anger. The true opposite end of the spectrum being, as you alluded to, suppressing all outward signs of anger but having it fester and eat away at you internally. I think all emotions have the same scale. Take fear as an example, the slightest hint of fear can make some people have a panic response and at the other extreme, people who are terrified internally but show little to no outward signs but induce massive stress internally.

  • @laraparks7018
    @laraparks7018 Před rokem +2

    In my experience, those who cause rage , do it calmly.😮

  • @nUmBskulLL
    @nUmBskulLL Před 2 lety +35

    There are no wrong feelings. Anger is a function of the brain, same as joy or sadness. If you're angry, it's because your brain is trying to fight a perceived "assault" on your emotions. Let it fight, it will win.

  • @ashbirk4681
    @ashbirk4681 Před rokem +4

    Brilliant work on the neuroscience, I love that you cited Kahneman and Damasio

  • @artemismoonbow2475
    @artemismoonbow2475 Před 2 lety +11

    "Only a Sith deals in absolutes," says the Jedi that has an absolute prohibition on anger.

  • @karigrandii
    @karigrandii Před rokem +92

    It is such a priviledge to be ”calm” in political questions and not even try and understand the other persons anger.

    • @richmrstonestone
      @richmrstonestone Před rokem

      lol. " Privilege" ? So being calm is a privilege? I would call burning down a neighborhood without consequences because the police hurt your feelings, privilege.

    • @sisyphus_strives5463
      @sisyphus_strives5463 Před rokem +3

      Perhaps anger can be justified-but the response to anger, your remedy of unjust reality, could very well be irrational.

    • @richmrstonestone
      @richmrstonestone Před rokem

      Meh, it's just a cool way to be. Leftist and identity activist are high strung comedic monkeys.... entertainment purposes only

    • @joemahma3017
      @joemahma3017 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@sisyphus_strives5463rationality isn’t the gold standard or the highest ideal.

  • @karigrandii
    @karigrandii Před rokem +6

    The best advice I got was to understand the cause of your and others anger. This has helped me eliminate almost all anger.

  • @ericarn
    @ericarn Před 2 lety +12

    My favorite word for angry is “apoplectic”. 😊

  • @nolives
    @nolives Před 2 lety +15

    This channel is super under rated.

  • @ShahinNe
    @ShahinNe Před rokem +8

    A Breath of fresh air. I stumbled on this video and what a lucky 🍀 find can’t get enough ❤thank you 😊

  • @Chamelionroses
    @Chamelionroses Před rokem +5

    Rage that is consistent can also be a sign of depression. May need some doctors to help with that.
    Anger is fine but violence is not.

  • @beeinthehive
    @beeinthehive Před 2 lety +9

    Justifiable anger gets things done when channeled. Indignation is not the enemy.

    • @morganmayfair4755
      @morganmayfair4755 Před 2 lety

      Unfortunately it makes you like a bull with a ring in his nose, easily led. And anger is addictive.

    • @beeinthehive
      @beeinthehive Před 2 lety +3

      @@morganmayfair4755 For some who don't have as much selfcontrol as they perhaps should. For the rest of us, it is motivation. Anger isn't positive or negative. It's the actions which follow the anger that determine such things, and that is highly individualistic. When those individuals collect, things get done.

    • @morganmayfair4755
      @morganmayfair4755 Před 2 lety +1

      @@beeinthehive that depends on how you define negative. If you define it as physiologically harmful to your body then anger is negative. If you are saying anger is good fuel for rebellion, I would agree. But, the twentieth century has seen a buttload of rebellions turn into horror. I would rather see change come through debate, compromise, enforcement of the laws we have, prosecution of traitors... that sort of thing.

    • @beeinthehive
      @beeinthehive Před 2 lety +6

      @@morganmayfair4755 True, but there are ways to relax the anger when it's time to destress. You shouldn't be angry all the time for the reason you mentioned. But yes, to get things done, we agree it is helpful and has purpose. Nothing gets done by complacency.
      Insofar as the law goes, many of them shouldn't even be laws. If no one is being harmed from an action or has the potential of harming someone (unwillingly) perhaps it shouldn't even be a law. There's no reason for it other than an excuse to arrest and fine people. There's a difference between a crime and breaking the law, or at least there certainly can be.
      I agree with you about rebellion, although I'm for a revolution (in the literal sense) but revolutions don't need to be violent and in fact it actually hiders the Cause. I'm of the mindset it needs to be brought in slowly... Slow and steady wins the race. We need to collectively build mutual aid centers and co-op businesses and programs and programs to help the poor, etc. We need to teach by example. We can't force people to see a better way, we must show them.

    • @Iamwolf134
      @Iamwolf134 Před 2 lety

      @@beeinthehive Agreed on that last paragraph. Though it's all too easy for infiltrators to compromise the revolution before it begins; remove as many threats to their own ambition as they can, such that they attain power uncontested.

  • @walterweizenauer3918
    @walterweizenauer3918 Před rokem +5

    On one hand anger and rage pretty much define my existence. But a really important insight here, anger and rage are emotional states that occur when other more healthy emotions and drives are blocked. Here are the givens of the world I inhabit. There is a 1% aristocracy who are ENTITLED to and receive 98% of the benefits of this society. They are denied NOTHING. They are above law. ANY crime they commit is at worst reduced to a cost of doing business. The rest of us have been reduced to the status of precariat. I have always characterized this economic state of swimming through icy seas. No matter how hard you swim the cold and waves have endless energy to beat you back. If you know of any exceptions please send me their address, but I can not tell you one enterprise that is not run by narcissistic psychopaths who use every kind of abuse to coerce their underlings. We live in a system based on exploitation and theft for the benefit of a tiny few. THIS social medium exists to really isolate and crush and remaining aspirations. I am not disturbed by how ANGRY people are. I am way more disturbed by their passivity.

  • @ppike__
    @ppike__ Před rokem +7

    I learnt from Buddhists something different. That anger is strong form of energy that can be transmuted into something positive, although very difficult. This is important in Kung Fu. To be energised naturally by the situation but not to be used by it. Perhaps its just no longer considered anger at that point. Anger can also be used as a signal for further reflection.

  • @soulmechanics7946
    @soulmechanics7946 Před 2 lety +19

    I have been watching you for a little while now, always figured your channel seemed a bit too polished, commercial in its presentation, to be working the ground war here with the rest of us, but this topic touches something vital and personal for me. Just wanted to let you know.. things are getting really rough out here, but you are an inspiration, and that is where we need the bulk of our reinforcements. 👊 Thank you for your service Sir.

  • @vaunniethayer1484
    @vaunniethayer1484 Před rokem +6

    Your videos are a great example of critical thinking. I also commend you on your ability to communicate and summarize such complex topics.

  • @elkiness
    @elkiness Před rokem +8

    Again, excellent. Food for thought, a way towards clarity. I appreciate your knowledge, research and honesty.
    I was there on the March on Washington, close to MLK. One of the most moving happenings in my life. And yes, I sang "We Shall Overcome'' until hoarse. (I was 15 years old.) I did, even then, feel some amazement that while the great majority, who were black, showed no resentment -- or anger--towards my friends and I. On the contrary, if I may say it--something like love for everyone who came, all with the same beliefs. But the hoped for changes did not come, and King was murdered.
    Anger towards me as a white person I experienced later during student teaching in a mostly black school in DC. Perhaps that influenced my decision to ''make aliyah''--go up--to live in Israel, where I could contribute to my people's new homeland.
    Your video made me aware of one of the reasons I could leave the US,. I was so horrified by the Holocaust as I learned about what happened; felt such great empathy for Anne Frank, for example, that I wanted to do something. Zionism , and the ideal of the kibbutz provided a joyful ideology....but here, too there was great disillusionment.
    It's tough, living and feeling in the real world, isn't it?! ;-)

    • @reba738
      @reba738 Před rokem +4

      Beautifully written, it's awful what's happening with the Palestinians at the moment. I wish it got more news coverage
      You seem to have a good soul and a rational mind.

  • @godot5643
    @godot5643 Před 2 lety +43

    what makes me angry is your videos not getting the views they deserve.

  • @soulmechanics7946
    @soulmechanics7946 Před rokem +6

    It keeps getting worse. I thought it had plateaued after my Mom died.. that I had learned my lesson, leveled out and up.. but a handful of months later I am growing angry again. Angrier and angrier and angrier.. almost hateful anymore. 😔 Perhaps this is how it beats you..

    • @LincolnDWard
      @LincolnDWard Před 10 měsíci +1

      Praying for peace for you ❤

    • @kathyadair8552
      @kathyadair8552 Před 10 měsíci

      If the medical system failed your Mom, or others are responsible, it's understandable.
      And, some of those problems can beget others. Know that you aren't alone.
      Trauma may play a part. Fear, or criminal acts against you Both. Etc.

  • @user-ci8gj4ex5o
    @user-ci8gj4ex5o Před 2 lety +7

    I have to meditate daily sometimes twice a day.
    Having children has also chilled me out a lot.
    I used to fly off the handle about tiny insignificant things. Books like the Power of Now and The Untethered Soul amongst many more have helped.

  • @moxarie
    @moxarie Před 2 lety +7

    You're videos are great and well thought out one of my favorite channels to watch keep it up!

  • @futurehistory2110
    @futurehistory2110 Před 2 lety +9

    Anger can be good and bad, I guess it really depends. I think my anxiety around this age of anger is this feeling, this dread that it will boil over and everyone will be suddenly at war and the world will fall apart. But it does seem very unlikely for things to actually escalate to that degree. I think social media has a lot to do with it. It hasn't been good for my mental health and I'm trying to use it in a smarter way thesedays because things that never once irritated me actually do thesedays and I think that's from Facebook, Twitter, etc.

  • @a48266
    @a48266 Před 2 lety +24

    An excellent and timely analysis. The history of emotions is an area that needs to be brought into the public's attention more and more.

  • @nestorar
    @nestorar Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for these videos. Also, congratulations on the production and usage of classical music. You are contributing to a better world!

  • @carloslinares991
    @carloslinares991 Před rokem +3

    I only found your videos a few weeks ago. I think your content is absolutely stellar! You have some of the highest production on long-form videos. You're up there with Philosophy Tube and Some More News, I want to try to spread your name as much as I can. You definitely are doing something great and I can't wait to watch more!

  • @roberth9814
    @roberth9814 Před 2 lety +2

    I always hesitate to commit to these long video essays, and cannot be happier each time I finish one

  • @martijncrowe3901
    @martijncrowe3901 Před rokem +2

    I always wanted to write a phenomenology of anger. its stil on the list. Thanks for the introduction. Anyhow a point not discussed is the problem of power in daily interactions. But also in political processes. When people are angry they can do things they wouldn't do if not angry. So if you are able to make somebody angry, you can use the "mistakes" to gain power. I make also in the line of Ronald Laing a different distinction. When anger is the consequence of crossing (personal) borders, it is good to use your anger (ig rape). First of alle to feel it and then act accordingly. Most people don't even feel anymore: alienation. Acting against one's own experiences. In any other case like being angry about "the foreigners," it seems to be manipulated to gain political gain. Using your anger by starting to feel it and by than using it to protect what is important to you seems to me necessary but like Althusser said: killed at school: Control your anger! Slaves of the ideology? Do we get punished for being ourselves? Maybe we can only be there if we are not there anymore. I love to be angry and show it. Even when I cannot permit it myself.

  • @bellasears
    @bellasears Před 2 lety +3

    Great video. I love finding new philosophy youtubers, especially when they go beyond just the Western cannon like you did at the start! Keep it up :)

  • @leealexander3507
    @leealexander3507 Před 2 lety +9

    I became mildly irritated over things that would normally amuse me although I would feign exasperation. It happened twice in one month. It turned out I have a severe bone infection behind my right ear caused by my hardware slipping out of place. Becoming actually angry is a rarity for me but it does happen on rare occasions over seeing something that is just not right. If I can't right the wrong I'll try to get help from others in order to do it but there are times one just can't fix something. That's when I get angry. The other thing I become angry over is if my body and health fail me I don't know why but that will really set me off.

  • @leftykeys6944
    @leftykeys6944 Před rokem +3

    Thank you for this! An introspective, non judgmental, nuanced, thoughtful analyses of our most controversial emotion! Examining it through a cultural & historical lens was interesting too. Bravo!

  • @adamgorelick3714
    @adamgorelick3714 Před 2 lety +11

    Behind anger usually lurks fear. So the question becomes, why the fear? Most fear comes down to concern of losing something that is valued or not getting something that is perceived as important. Even more basic to fear is the belief that one's boundaries are being trespassed upon. The current political trends are leaning toward authoritarianism, fascism, and demagoguery as economic insecurity and lack of social cohesion take there toll. The more people fear their needs and desires are in jeopardy, the more anger manifests. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the U.S.A.; an empire in decline that, with increasing desperation, is trying to control the "narrative" through censorship and censure. Perhaps it's not too reductive to suggest that capitalism has played a major role in accelerating civilization's dissolution of the way humans had existed for most of our history - self sufficient, in small communities, with extended families and a great deal less narcissism. Capitalism tends to create a culture of selfishness, disempowerment, loneliness, and fear - all of which results in nagging psychological fear that exists independently of any external triggers that one might have control over.

  • @MrPoonomatic
    @MrPoonomatic Před rokem +5

    recently at my work as a security person someone threatened to kill me for no apparent good reason. My life is a meditation where this guy found its way through and wakened the same anger in me. I felt sick with this for me new emotion of anger. It kills you from the inside. After talking with my dear friends one said:"it is easy to go on the road of the hatefull because of the temptation of feeling hard done by life and the bestial lower brain lizard.

  • @joshrodoski2034
    @joshrodoski2034 Před rokem +1

    This channel has fast become my favorite thing.

  • @ZsoltSzentirmai
    @ZsoltSzentirmai Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic essay, thank you so much!

  • @apostoloszacharopoulos8171

    May be petty, but watching him hitting the clock with a leek brightened my day. Good channel!

  • @arturbaluyev2873
    @arturbaluyev2873 Před 2 lety +9

    Please level the music quieter. Sometimes it's really hard to hear your voice because of the loud music.

  • @nopasaran191
    @nopasaran191 Před 2 lety +10

    Anger produces lots of great art. And people are right to be angry.

  • @jimicunningable
    @jimicunningable Před 2 lety +2

    Your vids are consistently great, thank you very much. I found the music off on this one, tense perhaps? Keep up the good work.

  • @PeterHamiltonz
    @PeterHamiltonz Před rokem +1

    Very glad I've discovered your channel.

  • @Prizzlesticks
    @Prizzlesticks Před rokem +2

    I don't believe anger is a primary emotion for most people. That is, when someone is angry, it is usually because they're feeling something else very strongly and it is expressed as anger. When a parent screams at their child for running across the street without looking, it's because they were afraid. When a significant other starts yelling that you came home late, it probably comes from a sense of sadness they weren't considered, worry for you or for the relationship, or affront from the lack communication or respect boundaries. When an employee is angry about a pay raise refusal, it's from stress of managing expenses, hurt from not having their work valued, or maybe even disgust at the way the company values profit over people. If you get peeved at jumpscares, it's because you dislike that style of surprise.
    I find if you dig into anger, it is rarely just pure rage, for no reason. I hesitate to say that is true for all people, but at least for the majority of people I've met, that seems to be mostly true. And that differs from other emotions, because while you can get into the why or find synonymous emotions (sadness from rejection, or melancholy from a sense of chronic loneliness, or depressed from recent events), what's buried under the emotion usually not a completely different emotion. They're all the same shade, if you will, whereas anger is often vastly different from the emotion associated with the inciting incident, and what lies beneath the anger can be a wide array of other emotions.
    I don't know if that makes sense, I've had a long day and my brain is jelly in a jar rn.

  • @arizonakaren
    @arizonakaren Před 3 měsíci

    I just watched four of your productions. I'm so impressed with the references to ancient philosophy. I subscribed, and then I joined.
    Anger has been useful as fuel for me to leave an abusive relationship. I held onto that anger until I finally moved out. Letting go of the anger took a while, but I managed to release it through therapy.

  • @Zaillith
    @Zaillith Před 2 měsíci

    Hey man thanks for the great video! I really liked how you laid out so many different interpretations of the meaning, purpose, and pitfalls of anger. Really helps add new perspective

  • @businessgoose6057
    @businessgoose6057 Před rokem +1

    Man.... this touched my heart

  • @jkam2524
    @jkam2524 Před 2 lety +2

    Very good! Thank you.

  • @planlosubertroffen2282
    @planlosubertroffen2282 Před rokem +1

    Thank you.
    This opened me a Door.🚪
    Im ready to walk through it.
    much love from me ❤️,keep on.

  • @gardener_jojo
    @gardener_jojo Před rokem +3

    maybe ppl are so angry bc they now realize that all those ‘calm people’ were simply just not listening

  • @carlosperez5054
    @carlosperez5054 Před 2 lety +1

    Anger is a response to the inability to cope or express pain(physical or psychological). Anything that can cause pain(physical or psychological-i.e.fear, sadness, shame...etc) can be transmuted psychologically to anger and anger to violence. It is considered sign of emotional immaturity and disdained by psychologically matured cultures. Buddhism is more equipped to explain because it is the most psychologically mature ideology conceived(anger to hate to violence to suffering to anger...). You just need to translate the old language to modern psychological language and it explains more. Anger can override frontal lobes making people irrational temporarily one reason may be because our ancestors required to move without thinking maybe due to predication(flight or fight). Of course a combination of reasons most probable. Emotions help archive information and behavioral algorithms. You can program your reaction to pain and avoid anger. Pain is fuel for anger. Thank you for another thought provoking video! Excellent job!

  • @tamiltigerlady
    @tamiltigerlady Před 9 měsíci

    i really appreciate your videos, the hard work and research that goes into them really pays off. Thank you!

  • @unreliablenarrator6649
    @unreliablenarrator6649 Před rokem +1

    When a party or person injures you, anger is about injustice and/or harm. The trick is to stop & think about scale & outcomes.

  • @lizzie7138
    @lizzie7138 Před 2 lety +1

    The music is definitely putting me on edge 🤣

  • @juaffle
    @juaffle Před rokem +1

    Anger is a devine gift.

  • @vsssa1845
    @vsssa1845 Před 2 lety

    that was phenomenal content

  • @sybilvane2343
    @sybilvane2343 Před 2 lety +6

    I really love your videos very much but at times the music is a little too intense for me and makes it hard to follow what is said. But also Im not a native english speaker and that might be the reason why Im having issues with it.

  • @PjotrFrank
    @PjotrFrank Před 2 lety +2

    You did a great job tackling such a huge and important topic. Although Wodan/Odin as the god of anger, and the blood feud as a huge historical problem, would have been worth mentioning as well, IMO.

    • @artemismoonbow2475
      @artemismoonbow2475 Před 2 lety +2

      He is a god of ecstatic fury, but also poetry, travel, guardianship, wisdom, and many more. It is symbolically interesting that he had to give one eye to the well and thus one eye looks externally and one is directed internally; as above, so below. If I had to make my case, it was the left eye that he gave to Mimir as the left eye connects to the right hemisphere of the brain. A person that explores their internal as furiously as the external is an person that is a bridge between upper and lower, a "Tree Traveler" if you will. There is a lot of wisdom to be learned from the old Seidmadr and Gangradr and it would be a massive oversimplification to envision him as a hyper-masculine head thumper like his son.

    • @PjotrFrank
      @PjotrFrank Před 2 lety +2

      @@artemismoonbow2475 I merely wanted to point out the common etymological roots of „Wotan“ and the german word „Wüten“ (to rage angrily).

    • @artemismoonbow2475
      @artemismoonbow2475 Před 2 lety +1

      @@PjotrFrank For sure, that is certainly a part and that is why he is the Alfadr. ;)

    • @saxogatley1166
      @saxogatley1166 Před 2 lety +1

      @@artemismoonbow2475 if you think Thor is just a “hyper-masculine head thumper” you haven’t read the actual Eddas. If that’s what he was, why does he engage in flytes, such as with the Ferryman and the Dwarf

  • @mileswilliams9737
    @mileswilliams9737 Před rokem +1

    On mlk and Malcom x - King admitted his own efforts would have been met with a heavier hand if it was not for the fact that Malcom X was the other camp, the authorities didn't want to push people towards X.
    King wrote a number of letters to Malcom and said as much a number of times, even questioning if Malcom didn't have the right idea, basically saying "however, I am who I am. A preacher" as to why he was continuing to be non violent

  • @p5rsona
    @p5rsona Před 2 lety

    Your channel is amazing

  • @ellDiavolo666
    @ellDiavolo666 Před 9 měsíci

    Wow what a video, instant subscribe and respect

  • @pikidipod
    @pikidipod Před měsícem

    What an insightful video. Thank you for making it. Just yesterday I had a minor meltdown and beat my knuckles to a brick wall. I wish i had more self control when it comes to my emotions. But i do love the rush of adrenaline coursing through my veins.

  • @ThenNow
    @ThenNow  Před 2 lety +33

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    • @tnix80
      @tnix80 Před 2 lety +1

      This would be better content if left wing ideological spin was left out

    • @HermeticallyHermeticThricGreat
      @HermeticallyHermeticThricGreat Před 2 lety

      Hello you beautiful soul 🌹 I'm looking for like-minded people to talk to, and bounce some ideas off of. Please reach out 😌 if you're interested in conversation outside The narrative.

    • @TheFriendlyAnarchist
      @TheFriendlyAnarchist Před rokem +1

      Hey, Practicing Buddhist here. Buddhism doesn’t support the Status Quo. Very much the opposite.
      Some of my favorite quotes from Daisaku Ikeda:
      “It is the function of evil to divide; to alienate people from each other and divide one country from another. The universe, this world and our own lives, are the stage for a ceaseless struggle between hatred and compassion, the destructive and constructive aspects of life. In the end, the evil over which we must triumph is the impulse toward hatred and destruction that resides in us all.”
      “Those who fail to fight against the devilish nature of authority fall victim to it themselves”
      “Only by confronting,
      exposing, breaking open
      the pompous, poison-scented hearts
      of those who wield power--
      only in this way
      will genuine peace
      be given the chance
      to live and breathe,
      in seen and unseen ways.”

    • @robertschwartz6897
      @robertschwartz6897 Před rokem

      thank you for all of your insight and hard work.

    • @robertdegruchy160
      @robertdegruchy160 Před rokem +1

      I may be missing something here but I am not seeing any particularly left wing spin in the content. I am not enraged if there is any.The Jan.6 crowd did present an irrational out of control angEr.

  • @dorithezencat
    @dorithezencat Před 2 lety +21

    Very timely…we’ve just got K-Trump elected in Korea. Thank you for the great contents.

    • @amulyamishra5745
      @amulyamishra5745 Před 2 lety +1

      Congratulations!

    • @CPSPD
      @CPSPD Před 2 lety +4

      @@amulyamishra5745 haha 😐

    • @amulyamishra5745
      @amulyamishra5745 Před 2 lety +1

      @@CPSPD well it's better thank getting a K-Biden!

    • @ZA-zf1qs
      @ZA-zf1qs Před 2 lety +10

      @@amulyamishra5745 let me explain something to you: No.

    • @terrystevens3998
      @terrystevens3998 Před 2 lety

      @@amulyamishra5745 it’s so gross that people just ignore that Trump got a million Americans killed lying about a virus and then tried to overthrow our democratic election. Biden can’t be blamed for the fact he inherited a post truth, angry fascist country that is reeling from the damage the worst president we have ever had did.

  • @jadedoddity
    @jadedoddity Před rokem +1

    I'm always angry, and I have always been. It's either anger or a deep sadness from which I cannot emerge. At least I can channel anger into productivity.

  •  Před rokem

    Excellent!

  • @rehmankhalid7415
    @rehmankhalid7415 Před 2 lety

    Really cool and interesting video

  • @patrickparson9628
    @patrickparson9628 Před 2 lety +6

    It's all Ben Stiller's fault. Watching his cameo on friends taught me how to rage at an early age.

    • @FINNSTIGAT0R
      @FINNSTIGAT0R Před rokem +1

      He was also Mr. Furious in the film Mystery Men.
      His superpower in the superhero group depicted in the film was being really angry 😡

    • @natalyawoop4263
      @natalyawoop4263 Před rokem

      I blame Ben Stiller for more than just anger. I blame him for almost everything

  • @dismith73
    @dismith73 Před rokem

    Thank you

  • @TennesseeJed
    @TennesseeJed Před 2 lety +2

    The carrot on a string is made of plastic, and knowing that perpetuates a lot of anger.

  • @damilolaaduragbemi1838
    @damilolaaduragbemi1838 Před 4 měsíci

    The irony of telling an angry person to calm down is what even infuriating it the more

  • @intellectually_lazy
    @intellectually_lazy Před 9 měsíci

    feelings aren't right or wrong. they are something that is, and they are whether or not we acknowledge them. feeling also aren't the opposite of logic, though they can make it harder to think clearly and can lead us to decisions we regret, but they can give us direction too. without feelings, why anything? how would anything matter?

  • @randymcgrane3738
    @randymcgrane3738 Před 2 lety

    Thanks!

  • @tcdavidson5934
    @tcdavidson5934 Před 5 měsíci

    Great content!
    As an audio only headphone user, I would prefer much quieter violin solos etc during the transition between parts

  • @edge21str
    @edge21str Před rokem +1

    Anger is only useful if it's channeled into something productive. What you're supposed to do with it is not scream around like a maniac, but realize what caused you to be angry and what can be done about it. If it's possible and feasible to take action, you do that. If there's nothing to be done, you listen to the stoics and realize that your impotent rage only serves to damage yourself.

    • @edge21str
      @edge21str Před rokem

      Also, anger itself is unavoidable, what you do with that emotion is entirely up to you though.

    • @thesevenkingswelove9554
      @thesevenkingswelove9554 Před rokem

      @@edge21str if it's unavoidable then it's going to burst out. You can't control your emotions but you can control your actions

  • @mstran1897
    @mstran1897 Před 2 lety +2

    Great work as always!

  • @EroticInferno
    @EroticInferno Před 4 měsíci

    IMHO There’s a fundamental difference between being angry and feeling angry. One is a state of being that’s non-constructive while the other is simply a feeling. Feeling aren’t bad if they are allowed to be what they are and not morph into a persons state of being. It is from this state that we can justify and rationalize negative thoughts and actions.
    Anger is a signpost, not a tour guide. Don’t let it lead you, just let it assist you.

  • @Billcruxley
    @Billcruxley Před rokem

    I’ve been listening to your videos all day at work. It’s broken the rut of boredom I’ve been stuck in the last week or so. This is really well-made and researched.
    Also if someone doesn’t tell me the name of the song at 21:03 I may perish. Help!

  • @kevinheise7
    @kevinheise7 Před rokem

    Thank you🍻

  • @TheFriendlyAnarchist
    @TheFriendlyAnarchist Před rokem

    Hey, Practicing Buddhist here. Buddhism doesn’t support the Status Quo. Very much the opposite. While Buddhism sees no use in hatred, righteous anger has its place. There are actually Dharmapalas who are mythological embodiments of a Buddha’s wrath-My favorite being Acala/Fudo-Myoo.
    Buddhism isn’t about accepting the world as it is-rather it’s about realizing the hidden connection between the world and ourselves-seeing through the illusions created by consciousness.
    We aren’t especially wrathful and hatred absolutely is a poison, but so is passivity.
    Some of my favorite quotes from Daisaku Ikeda:
    “It is the function of evil to divide; to alienate people from each other and divide one country from another. The universe, this world and our own lives, are the stage for a ceaseless struggle between hatred and compassion, the destructive and constructive aspects of life. In the end, the evil over which we must triumph is the impulse toward hatred and destruction that resides in us all.”
    “Those who fail to fight against the devilish nature of authority fall victim to it themselves”
    “Only by confronting,
    exposing, breaking open
    the pompous, poison-scented hearts
    of those who wield power--
    only in this way
    will genuine peace
    be given the chance
    to live and breathe,
    in seen and unseen ways.”

  • @marcussassan
    @marcussassan Před měsícem

    thank you

  • @sabar2453
    @sabar2453 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Aquinas took alot of his thought from Ghazali, who had studied the Philosophers in depth

  • @lj5116
    @lj5116 Před rokem +2

    Not one mention of envy? Why? It’s a very relevant insanity and permissive aberrant emotion that’s fostered for political, and social aims.

  • @steinarbruun3852
    @steinarbruun3852 Před rokem

    All emotions give rise to thoughts of one kind or another. All emotions can be seen as "fuel". But feelings alone are generally unhelpful. Misdirected emotion can have catastrophic consequences. Rational thought needs to be employed.

  • @psychedelicartistry
    @psychedelicartistry Před 5 měsíci

    Anger is like a knife. It can be helpful or harmful depending on what it's used for. Anger is a good defense mechanism against real threats or when people violate our boundaries. In terms of immediate threats, it's a primary emotion. In terms of boundary violation, it's secondary. It's taken to extremes today and used to cover other emotions like anxiety, stress, sorrow, and so on, b/c a lot of people have trouble regulating their emotions these days, and I believe this is by design. If it weren't, DBT would be mandatory in public schools.

  • @pumkin610
    @pumkin610 Před rokem

    Anger is a response to being hurt or being threatened. Anger is there to make us destroy the threat.

  • @baraahhamdi8533
    @baraahhamdi8533 Před 7 měsíci

    I was angry , so much , it was burning me , till i got to point i will have a seizure attack when i can't control my emotions , i felt unjust , my anger reflected on me , It is really something i find hard to talk about it , i feel so empty

  • @NickOleksiakMusic
    @NickOleksiakMusic Před 7 měsíci

    Star Wars has a decent metaphor for anger with the Force. The Sith let their anger (as well as other impulses) be their guide. Anakin turned to the dark side because he channeled his anger improperly and let it become his entire person. The Jedi are essentially sci-fi Buddhists that feel their emotions but never let them override their morals and reasoning. Be a Jedi Master, not a Sith Lord.

  • @anejnuhanovic1723
    @anejnuhanovic1723 Před rokem

    honestly mate...got me angry..how good this came out.

  • @rightplaceeverything464
    @rightplaceeverything464 Před rokem +1

    Nietzsche lived off a small pension and wrote of power in an angry tone. Stoics wrote of calmness and passivity from mansions and castles having never worked a day in their life. Traditional western philosophers should be taken with a grain of salt with this contrast in mind when they write of what it means to be human.