Why I Actually Like Sonic Origins! - Sonic Origins Review
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- Sonic Origins is a fantastic Sonic collection that is definitely worth picking up if you are an avid player of Classic Sonic games!
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After launch, Sonic Origins was found to have many performance issues on PC. However more importantly, the PC port is not running for many people, especially for those who do not have a graphics card installed. I will once again HIGHLY recommend that you choose PC to be the final resort of buying this game collection. Please consider getting Sonic Origins on console if you wish to play this collection. Every platform has a ton of bugs and glitches too so if that's not your thing, I would skip out on Sonic Origins. From my personal experience, I ran into very few bugs and it was smooth sailing for me, although I can't guarantee the same for all of you!
Alright still gonna play it tho
Hopefully you're not a loser and you got the deluxe version
i would buy it on pc cuz the modding community has already fixed most of the bugs
@@AlexOnDemand Not yet Sonic 3K in particular has tons of bugs yet to be fixed (if you die with a shield you will respawn with the shield, getting a 1-Up completely restarts the level music from the beginning, certain areas being impossible to reach). And the awful Tails jumping bug in Sonic 2 (and it might be in Sonic 1 as well, haven't tested Sonic + Tails in that game) is not yet fixed.
Even though It has bugs and glitches it’s still an easy way to play old classic games I know this I am still going to buy this is a awesome And with no the accolades sonic is finally good
Trust me buddy I know exactly where you're coming from with the music. It's so iconic even my friend who hasn't played Sonic for 20 years and had a massive drug issue that horribly damages her memory, STILL remembers ice cap vividly.
It's THAT good
Is your friend still struggling with drugs?
@@pizzaboi1008 nope. She's completely cut herself from all that stuff
Bruh what lmao
@@chaozZX3 I thought it was a him? 🤨
@@HomieUnicorn her
Stupid autocorrect
Sonic Origins is a great classic collection at heart. But perhaps extra content and updates would be a warm welcome for sure.
No it ain't. The PC Version SUCKS like REALLY BADLY. It's absolute trash.
Sonic Mega Collection on 6TH GENERATION CONSOLES HAD MORE GAMES!
It had a gallery, Sonic 1-3, 3 and knuckles had its original soundtrack... Being Michael Jackson'd.Generally this port is terrible. It forgot about the Game Gear and Master System games.
40 for 4 games that are mostly there, to be fair it's Tax Man and Stealth versions of 1-2+CD, but not being able to disable Coins in favor of lives while having... WIDESCREEN is a turn off.
Poor framerate on PC IS ASTROCIOUS. Like these games can be emulated within in emulator via Dolphin, PSX2 for a collection.
There is a lack of love for 8-bit sonic, Neo-geo pocket color sonic, or even ackowledgment of GBA games.
@@MaoRatto bro let people be happy that’s your Opinion
@@MaoRatto i think you are Beeing a little salty but you have fair points to that, but if there is legal issues with the credit for brad buxer and the michael Jackson sound team, there isn't much to do to be honest and it's better to have sonic 3 widescreen than no sonic 3 at all. But i agree that they should have widescreen remastered the 8-bit titles sonic 1&2, chaos and triple trouble 😄
Think you’re being a little harsh on it. Yes, it sucks anniversary mode has no lives options, and yea it sucks they didn’t include the game gear or master system games or mj soundtrack for sonic 3, but what they put out is still awesome, and the absolute best collection Of sonic games available. Like everyone else I was pleasantly surprised. As a collection of he first four mainline games, it’s near perfect.
…But I didn’t pay for it, so there’s that.
@@zyriuz2 Not to mention the visuals look kinda bad. Like... A gamecube copy of Gems Collection looks more crisp than the actual "Sonic Origins collection" not to mention Gems Collection was more content for Cheaper, during a pre-digital age. It's somehow more crisp than origins when played via emulation. That's a major insult because that was my first exposure to Sonic as a kid with a PS2. That should tell you something.
I wouldn't be so spiteful if it weren't for the takedown on the original genesis versions of these games on PC or the removal of the singular Sonic CD. I rather have the 100% UNADULTURATED CHRISTIAN WHITEHEAD SONIC CD THAN ORIGINS. Atleast it runs on Windows 7 ( I don't use it anymore )
There is no INTERGER SCALING ON THE ORIGINS COLLECTION... There is no EXCUSE for that. It's 2022, if Capcom can do that for the Megaman franchises, Sega should've TRIED. I like options like Letterbox, 4:3 Something to make the in-game graphics not shimmer and be 100% pure clean and CRISP....
Also the De-compilation versions of sonic 2 and 1 look SO MUCH SUPERIOR, not to mention the same engine as Sonic Origins for the damn games.
Sonic Origins just pisses me off for being a Grand Theft Auto " Definitive " edition for Sonic fans if played only on PC.... Sega knew people bitched at them for putting Denuvo on Mania, but they still did it AGAIN. There is no excuse for this.
Sonic Origins was bastardized due to Sega Publishing than anything else. I love Sonic, but damn his movies are his only revenue of good content, but his games are just pathetic? Sonic Frontiers is gonna be the death of the company... As seriously it looks as complete as sonic 06 is. Sega isn't full of talent, but bean counters. They're no actual gamers in it at all or fans of Sonic.
Sonic 3 ice cap zone is actually the jetzons “hard times”
But it sucks that they still couldn’t get THAT music in the game!
Michael jacksons producer worked on tbat song aswell
@@buttbootynaked4455 Brad Buxer basically is the Jetzons.
There is a mod already that change the music on pc🙃
@@09jesusm yeah about that…
Denuvo be fucking up everything tho!
The stiffness issue of Sonic 1 and 2 is how the rolling mechanic works. When jumping out of a role from pressing down at high speeds, spindashing, etc, you will loose all air control. Sonic 3 also has this issue, but the insta-shield let's you regain air control, effectively canceling this mechanic which was a thing in the original genesis version. Sonic CD doesn't have this mechanic. This is why the controls of Sonic 3 and CD feel better, and they used the CD approach with Sonic Mania.
Yeah I realized this as I was playing lol. I kept getting pissed off because it gets you killed very frequently😂.
i don't get why they can't just use the mania physics for all of the games. if the remakes run on taxman's retro engine it'll be pretty easy to pull off
@@georckbread3403 they basically dont want to- and yea they could pretty much just flip a switch to turn it on
Eh, i’ve gotten used to it due to playing the whitehead ports on mobile, but it is a trip up for anyone going from Mania straight to Origins, i am personally not bothered as it’s not my first rodeo with 1, CD, and 2 but it was my first time with 3K and it made me just appreciate the insta shield ability a lot more
Update: That part I talked about with Sonic 3 is wrong in Origins. The insta-shield still cancels the mechanic in the original, but the air control loss mechanic was removed in the Origins remake. So no insta-shield is not required to turn around.
I'm not supporting it for d listing classic Sonic games to 40 to 45 dollars not worth it and then locking features that shouldn't be behind a paywall I am glad everyone else is enjoying this collection but I won't be supporting it.
Why keep the inferior versions around?
@@breadordecide inferior versions really that's your argument preservation matters especially cause I own Sonic the hedgehog 3 I just go to the extra menu I can play the original Sonic the hedgehog 3 and Knuckles with the amazing sound track.
That’s petty 😂
@@STAXONDECK1 Rea no it's not locking features and taking away options how to buy Sonic the hedgehog 3 and Knuckles is not petty you are the ones being getting upset cause I refuse to support Sega's dumbass business practice.
Sonic fans are so petty. I think this is a great collection and can't wait to get home from work to play it. It's been over 15 years since I played the classic games. So color me excited. Sorry for the positivity
Fun Fact the issue with the drop dash in Sonic 1 & 2 is it’s programmed that Sonic actually does a quick Spindash when landing if you look at it frame by frame you can see the Spindash activate.
Could've been better, but honestly this is just a really nice collection. Nice vid dude!
hi! I'm assuming you've played the game/know about it. Is it worth it? I wanna buy it but don't wanna be dissapointed. I am just looking for sonic games to play (never played any proper sonic game except from the roblox one). Would it be worth buying?
@@DarrGabb If you haven't played any of the classic titles, then yeah! It's great! Personally, there are some things that seem a little rough. The settings by far are some of the more rough parts of the compilation, since I had a lot of difficulty actually finding the settings, and then changing the soundtracks. Other than that though, it's a great compilation. The best parts of the mobile versions of the classic titles are here, including updated graphics, 16:9 aspect ratio, and improved physics and controls. The missions are fun, the story mode is interesting, and the cutscenes are just fantastic. Some of the updated soundtracks are... well, they leave a lot to be desired. However, if you've never played the classics, or lack nostalgia for them, I doubt they'll be an issue to you.
As for the price... it's a little expensive, and honestly, out of any of the versions, I'd easily say the Switch or Console. PC seems to be having some issues with Denuvo, a poor anti-piracy software that SEGA tends to use for their games.
TL;DR: if you haven't played the classics, go for it. It's a solid compilation. The remastered versions of the games are great, the cutscenes are awesome, and the coins actually help a lot with restarting special stages, which can get very difficult later on. There's a lot here to sink your teeth into. The price is debatable, but I'm personally enjoying it, and I've played these games hundreds of times. The worst parts of this compilation are mostly minor inconveniences than real issues. Best option is easily the switch or console. Pc is a little rough rn.
@@hotchocolate8008 thanks for the info! I’ll probs wait for future updates to see if pc is gonna be better in the future as that’s what I wanted to buy it on. It was just hard to know if it was worth it because the comments on steam were basically 50/50. Some were saying there’s fps issues while others were saying it’s worth it and it left me a bit stuck 😂
@@DarrGabb yea it's worth it also you should start with story mode
@@DarrGabb it's worth it now that they've made sure you can't go by the other versions that were much cheaper.
For the most part, I’d say it’s worth it, but man, the problems are definitely glaring. Mostly how the new versions of the prototype S3 tracks are just terrible, and the game still uses the same blurry linear scaling that the 2011 Sonic CD port used. (Also Denuvo.) I do think overall the fan decomps and S3AIR are better, and that’s how I’ll continue to play on PC, but this is still a solid way to play them, and at this point, I’m just glad to have 3K on my Switch.
EDIT: After finishing Story Mode, there’s definitely some issues. Audio mixing’s all over the place (especially in CD), Tails’s AI is broken in S2, Drop Dash doesn’t feel right in 1 & 2, and I ran into some collision bugs that caused some cheap deaths (notably in 3K). Also, I’ve heard about a particularly nasty bug in Story Mode that can mess up your save file. Thankfully, I never ran into it myself.
But I love many of the changes that were made in 3K like restoring some unused animations and backgrounds and adding new looking animations. These are still good ways to play the games overall, but I’d understand waiting for these to hopefully be patched.
You kind of counter argument yourself. You make it seem like it's not worth the price at all but you still bought it just because of the value the original games has to you and the portability of the switch. NGL I'd like to have them on my switch but I think Ima just mod mine and get S3 air on my switch along with mods
To me prototype S3 trucks are not at all terrible and sound perfectly fine to me.
It was the original composition for the game and I think they more accurately represent the trilogy than MJ's involvement.
Wait did they re orchestrate or recompose the prototype tracks?
@@Zinkolo yes, they did. Jun remade them and “finished” them, but they sound worse than in the prototype.
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I personally find no issue with how they did they animations - personally I liked that they filled in the gaps I'd always had in my head about how the games themselves connected to each other, and I'm super happy to see them in cartoon form. Connecting the games together with animations is a huge deal for me, and it was never about the lore - for me it is just about being able to see it all seamlessly. It makes it all feel like much more of a whole piece, and I love it.
To fix the stiffness in Sonic 1 & 2 I usually go to the level select menu and turn on Sonic 3 items. This gives sonic the insta-shield from Sonic 3 which helps him course correct his jumps much easier.
Plus this adds the elemental shields which makes levels like Marble and Labyrinth Zone so much more playable (and dare I say enjoyable)
Marble Zone is fine as is but I can see dashing across the lava with a flame shield being fun
Marble Zone has been my favourite zone since I was 5. It doesn’t need anything to make it playable
Marble is already based wdym
To me, that's the definitive way to play Sonic 1 now. I don't play it without those now
This is one of the only positive reviews I've seen. The missing Michael Jackson tracks is a bummer though the presentation and and cutscenes are a nice addition.
Denuvo on these games is absolutely insane. Yeah it's a new release but it's still just four games from the 90's.
I think this needs some patching going forward but I doubt Sega cares. They need to add options to the classic mode to make them accurate to the originals and they need to figure the fucking music stuff out with 3K. The renditions of the prototype music isn't even as good as the prototype music.
For me I don’t really care about the music because I just don’t like any music in general but I can sorta see why people are mad at their favorite sound tracks being gone
@@sweet5754 how does one live without music, what the genuine fuck?
@@lootria I guess my ears just don’t like it and that’s why
I don’t really listen to music but I really like vgm
@@sweet5754 I feel bad for you
Also I will say, the dropdash is kinda overpowered. You can just spam the dropdash and go to the future or past
Considering the original concept was to timetravel effortlessly, that is a cool way to sorta restore that without actually changing the function.
@@lpfan4491 Except that the levels weren't designed for it and the ability to do so makes it even easier to get stuck in walls when you time travel in a spot the game doesn't expect you to.
Just started the video, happy to see you liked the same thing I did. I have fond memories of scrolling through the Sonic Mega Collection gallery, and to see the history and franchise so lovingly and thoroughly documented in Origins was a treat. I fired up the game and the very first thing I hit was the museum; there's just a magic to looking at these scans of all these games manuals, art, and animations that takes me back to being a kid again. Sonic 2 was the first game I ever played at 3 years old, I almost cried existential tears perusing what's on offer here; filled with bittersweet nostalgia.
Why is it always a mess when they try to make some anniversary shit? For god's sake, Sonic Jam was just a placeholder for another Sonic game that was delayed and eventually got cancelled. Yet it was far superior than this. Tails does not respawn once I lose him yet you hear constant jumping sounds from him. Knuckles is not playable in SCD. The quality of the music of S3&K is awful. 1-ups got replaced by coins yet 1-up orbs are still there. These are mostly patch fixing issues so please Sega, release the patch and make this the definitive edition to play Sonic 1-K....as far as it can be a defintive edition without MJ's great tracks.
Right on my man your one of the ONLY reviewers that's been positive about this game EVER💪
You know what's even more OP? In sonic 2, you can restart a stage a re-use checkpoints for another Emerald
Damn!
sonic 2 special stages were usually annoying (at least with sonic and tails) so I'd say that's a welcome change
Would be cool if they added zone transitions like sonic mania or since they are really marketing the animations it would be cool to get animations between zones, like how did sonic get to green hill to chemical plant??
I was just gonna say "he ran there" but tbh your right. Seems kinda like a massive jump from lush green rolling hills to a harsh black and blue factory. Huh. Never thought about that.
My best guess is that they simply didn't want to change the games even a bit. I mean, the cutscenes that do exist don't even connect with the ingame-cutscenes, both versions just sorta play and it is a weird disconnect.(As a reference for what I mean, it would make a lot more sense if the ingame-cutscenes played in the solo-versions of the games and the new cutscenes would play for the storymode. But that would require tweaking the games to cut out the credits-portions if the current gamemode is the storymode.)
it would be cool if they changed all of the games to be consistent with sonic 3 and add all the minibosses and the victory animations and spinning singposts etc etc..
and of course all that stuff will be absent in clsssic mode so you can play the games as intended
I appreciate you showing only the Intro cutscenes, because I am playing through S3&K right now. I'm having a blast! Got 5 Super Emeralds as of typing this!
About the music in sonic 3 the music they used was from the sonic and knuckles collection which is the pc version and the music in that version was actually the prototype of sonic 3&k
As a Sonic Lore Master, I was hoping for cutscenes in between new zones. Like it would be cool seeing the journey Sonic and Tails have or a cutscene showing Amy bing excited that Sonic saved her.
Not with that price tag, but I'll consider it once it goes on sale.
I have yet to play this game, and it already looks like the best collection of the Classics. Once I will play it, I will share my thoughts. 2D SONIC FOR THE WINNNN!!!! Great video, my dude! 👍
Sonic Origins is easily, without a doubt the absolute best Classic Sonic collection of all time thus far, possibly the best Sonic collection in general. I'm very satisfied with the final product.
Oh man, from what I've heard this will be AWESOME
@@primalvelocity3811 Too many bugs to be the best ever. If they patch out those, it’d be a fun collection.
@@ExtraordinaryFate I've only ever experienced one single bug in Sonic Origins thus far after playing all games, and it was in Sonic 3 and Knuckles, in Carnival Night Zone, when I jumped on a barrel, the game crashed. Other than that, the game has been smooth, fun, and enjoyable. I haven't experienced any other bugs or glitches since as of yet.
I’ve experienced no bugs whatsoever, and I haven’t even updated it yet
Happy Birthday Sonic! You make 31 Years look Good!
This is promising, also those animated cutscenes, they're so good! 🥺💙💛❤️
You know. I love that this is a positive review of Origins. Sonic Origins is way better than other Sonic CZcamsrs say. I was hesitant to buy it because of what others said about it, but I bit the bullet and I was not disappointed. I spent an entire day just in the blue spheres.
Like the Dark Side, mirror mode is a pathway to many abilities that just feel _unnatural._
This collection may be the best way to play sonic from a gameplay perspective but it definitely isn’t the best from a content one. Widescreen and mission mode and mirror mode with 8 animations that are like 30 seconds each don’t justify a $20 price increase when all of the games were $5 a piece. Mega collection plus had art from every game up to it and the menu music was top notch. We also can’t forget there were a bonus like 10 games that you could play (3D Blast, Spinball, Bean Machine, Ristar, etc.) So overall Mega collection plus will never be dethroned but I can see where your coming from. Personally I’m not gonna purchase this until it’s under $20 but it seems to be a decent collection, it’s just not worth the price point for the same experience some had 30 years ago
You see I would be totally fine with this statement if Nintendo didn't get away with much worse.
I mean they sell the bare minimum for 60€ not 40€ and this collection has actual effort put into it besides a resolution upscale.
Not to mention it will go down in price at some point especially when the sales will come in.
Something Nintendo still doesn't do properly as their sales always only go down to 40€ from 60€.
So I think it's 100% justified for SEGA to release this collection at this price considering the time and effort that was put into it.
@@YTDani75 I agree. That’s why I don’t purchase any of the nintendo rereleases as well. If all rereleases/remasters were priced at half of what they were when they were originally released it would be much more consumer friendly and nobody would have an issue. Like the Skyword Sword rerelease. The game came out in 2011 for $50-$60. If the Switch remastered was priced at $30 there would be no animosity.
The biggest issue with the Sonic Origins debacle is that they intentionally pulled a rockstar games and removed the original ports of the games from digital stores just so the unaware consumer could purchase their “shiny new edition”. Each game was $5 and you could experience all the games in their original forms for half the price and get the same experience tbh. Even though I still think $40 for Origins is steep it would be the worst thing if the alternative was still available for people
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I have the Christian Whitehead remakes on my phone so I can play them first hand and the Origins versions are basically better versions of it.
I do agree with the fact that these games are really damn old and shouldn't cost this much, which is why I'm waiting for a sale instead of buying it day 1.
Besides all the goodies like mods will come later anyway.
And yeah screw Nintendo's 60€ ports honestly. Atleast SEGA actually lowers the price of their games over time.
The prototypemusic for ice cap is amazing bro
Exiting special stages with rings still on hand isn't a glitch, Christian Whitehead changed that so you wouldn't die when leaving a special stage.
That’s a nice change then,
Thank you for not spoiling the cutscenes bro
Aside from the scummy artificial "DLC" gimmick, this collection looks beautiful. I'm just happy to have Sonic 3 and Knuckles on my Switch. If they do future DLC, playing as Amy and Metal Sonic would be awesome additions, since they're already featured in the cut scenes.
Y yo estoy feliz de que mi Switch, después de caer de un segundo piso, siga funcionando xd
I really like the game so much and this is a nice collection, I might play it when I buy the game in the future as I can hope so
That thing about keeping your rings after a special stage in Sonic 2 is not a glitch, that's been a thing since 1994 when you locked Sonic 2 onto Sonic & Knuckles to make Knuckles in Sonic 2. They just rarely did it like that in future ports of Sonic 2.
As a huge and OG fan of Sonic, I have always wanted to play his classic games on my console, but it was only available for PS3 and Xbox 360 on consoles like Xbox and Playstation. When I heard Sonic Origin's announcement, I was super duper excited. For me, Sonic Origins is a wish come true to me.
Never mess with Matt while on the grind
Love the vid 👍
After fully completing Origins on Switch just yesterday, I can say it is my favorite way to play these games, especially since we finally have Sonic 3&K back cus it's my favorite game in the series. Even though the music for Sonic 3 was replaced, I actually enjoy the new tracks a lot. (Yeah, even the new Super Sonic theme, I said it.) And the only glitch I ever encountered was the rubble glitch in Marble Garden Act 1, which is a relief after what I've heard about the bugs. Thankfully most of my problems stem less from the remasters and more so from how Sega handled the collection. (things like the price and the chart.) Although it would be nice to have things like multiple saves for Sonic 1, 2 and CD, new playable characters and new games, I'm hoping that the DLC being teased through those surveys could fix those though. A good collection altogether, I had a good time!
it's simple: the 2013 ports of sonic 1 and 2 coming to consoles is worth it ALONE.
Thank You Matt this was a five no TEN STAR VIDEO BUFFET
The "new" music for Carnival Night Zone, Ice Cap Zone, and Launch Base Zone is actually just a remixed version of the music used in the original PC version of Sonic 3&K.
I AGREEE! I loved playing it and when I preordered it I wasnt disappointed at all
the island models are gorgeous, i wish we could have gotten something like a small side thing like sonic jam on those 4 islands
You know Denuvo is bad when it makes you prefer the Switch version over the PC version.
Im waiting for a physical copy then ill get it.
I did the same for Maina and it was worth it.
Me too
Hopefully Sonic Origins Plus
@@DeathNeff you’re right
Fun fact: the songs that replaced CN, IC, & LB are remixed prototype Sonic 3's music for the respective zones using the Sonic and Knuckles Collection's versions instrumentation.
I actually think the prototype's instrumentation is superior to the Sonic and Knuckles collection to Origins instrumentation especially CN.
Well, between the fact that:
1. These are games that have been ported to every system in existence (except this time, with added DRM)
2. The ridiculous pricing for said games (not including the pre-order bonus content)
3. No bonus games. They could have thrown in 3D Blast too or even Spinball just to pad out the collection.
4. No extra playable characters. We got Mighty and Ray in Mania, yet they are absent here. Metal Sonic and Amy are heavily advertised but they aren't playable.
5. The butchered Sonic 3 music (mastered by Jun Sunoue, reinforcing the notion that the guy is a hack whose music has become extremely generic now)
6. Like I said before, there's DRM.
7. And the behind the scenes developer drama,
I'd say... No. In fact, Sonic Origins is not actually worth it.
And no, some badly designed mission modes and little 3D dioramas on the menu screens is not enough. If you want me to care, then let me run through those worlds as Sonic like in Sonic Jam.
But hey, I'm not gonna stop you from buying it. That's your choice to make, not mine.
Also, they litterally removed the og games from steam so people would buy origins... and dude 5 minutes of cutscenes and a mission mode are not enough to make paying 5 times the price
This appears to be a guy that makes sonic videos and if Sega told him that they are selling Sonic the Hedgehog shit that is straight from Sonic's ass, buying it would be totally "worth it"
@@jamesmiller5331 LMFAO epic comment
"I expected them to change the music, not to commit a CRIME!?" lol so good XD
Dude it's not worth quit praising on it Headcanon themselves said they never worked with Origins smh Sega themselves fucked it up once again
Some people thought that the classic Sonic 2D formula has reached its limits, but what the Mania team proves day after day that they are so Passionate and they can deliver so many creative ideas if they are given the chance, mission mode is awesome and way better than what I expected and if they work one day on Sonic Mania 2 they should include it with all new ideas, I like the boss rush and the mirror mode, I didn’t play them yet but I know I will enjoy the boss rush, and I will hate the mirror one but I appreciate adding it to the game, extra content to enjoy after finishing the game is always a plus for me, I love Sonic Origins yes the music are awful in comparison to the originals but still this game is made with love, and I give all the credit to the team working on it not Sega, I am super excited for a DLC maybe they can add more missions, playable Amy, Sonic Spinball, 3D blast, Knuckles chaotic and more.
Small thing, but what I REALLY love is how they used the soundtracks and sound effects recorded from the real hardware as opposed to emulated. Sounds so good with the Mega Drive distortion.
until sonic 3 belts in pain from being fed horrible midi renditions of pre-existing mega drive soundtracks.
@@remix7345 Hey now, people don’t like facts like that
@@remix7345 it’s actually not midi, it’s presumably from an even earlier prototype than the one we have.
@@Hamster_Pants i mess with a ym2612 emulator like daily. the sound of those tracks is completely off. not to mention theyre quieter than the rest of the game's tracks. even if they ARE earlier version, it makes no sense to use them. and the super sonic theme is one hundred percent some kind of garbage midi arrangement.
@@remix7345 the super sonic them was the only track actually made for origins by Jun. you can tell because it’s the only sonic 3 song to use the sonic 1/2 drums. Any song with the proper S3 drums is the prototype.
I bought the game on steam and i can say it's GREAT. I haven't encountered any issues with the and it feels pretty good
Oh cool, they actually made the Tarrot Card thing Amy does in the comics cannon.
It was actually always canon, it's just sorta obscure lore-wise.
If your talking about the IDW comics than those have always been canon
Funnily enough the replaced Ice Cap music is the best replacement track to me xD It sounds like an actual finished song.
Wtf I can't believe u're being serious
There are some games in this collection I've never played so this would be nice for me.
i love icecap too, but the new music didnt hurt me as much XD
Despite playing these games many times before, I have been loving this collection. Would not complain over a little bit more content of course.
the special stage thing where you keep the rings was part of the sonic 2 and knuckles originally. it's great!
I don't have a clue why people are complaining about it. As someone who's played these games many times in the past, they've never looked or played better. I'm playing on Switch, and there are no issues in my playing experience. The only gripe I have is the 3 Sonic 3 songs they replaced, which wouldn't even have been that bad if they replaced them with something GOOD. Oh, and placing Sonic CD between 1&2 which frankly feels odd, but whatever. And I've just found the mission mode and all new Blue Spheres levels. This is a complete package, there's never been a better way to play these games.
I think the collection is fantastic and definitely worth the money. I just hope they release a physical version so more people pick it up.
Sonic Origins is easily, without a doubt the absolute best Classic Sonic collection of all time thus far, possibly the best Sonic collection in general. I'm very satisfied with the final product.
I think it’s mega collection
@@alegamer_real I respect your opinion, most certainly. I just personally think that Sonic Origins is better. It has the Drop Dash in every game, you can retry special stages, you can restart acts, etcetera. It has the definitive versions of these games.
can't wait to play it
A few things you forgot to mention is that CD has some sounds changed and I particularly don't like the way how the boost pads in Stardust speedway sound which in my case would be also a 9/10 like every other game on the collection. Also you actually can turn the spindash off in classic mode in the level select screen so I would consider that as a point why classic mode isn't as bad and I like to play with lives so eh yeah it's alright.
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Can’t wait for a month or so from now when you change your mind about the game and start to hate it similar to what happened with colors ultimate
Literally
He never said he hated colors ultimate
But i do think hes gonna change his opinion at least a little bit
About the music thing at the sonic 3, that is easily overcome with mods now, there is already a mod to change the music back, Recommend it, it makes your experience the best it makes it a near perfection 2D sonic game in my opinion.
Glad too see I’m not the only one who like sonic orgin
Fun fact: The feature of maintaining your rings after the special stage was introduced as far back as Knuckles in Sonic 2 on the original Genesis.
Should I buy origins or use the money for another sonic game?
Drop Dash in 1 & 2 works like the roll, which has deceleration and you can only move in one horizontal direction.
The Senoue Massicre of 2022. If it's chiptune he's AWFUL at it, just like Sonic 4. The only reason his work sounded good on the Genesis was because other members of the team probably fixed the soundfont lmao
I’m upset about the original 3 & K MJ music not being in the game, the prototype versions aren’t as good and don’t fit as well
Plus the prototype music they used is worse than the original prototype music
Why can’t they get this issue sorted out so they can use the release versions, these versions don’t fit as well and the tone and feeling isn’t the same at all.
IK there are still versions with the original music and origins will have mods on pc (and the music is online) but still it’s not ideal
I am at least glad CD still lets you select the soundtrack versions
Also I wish they had included other games as well as have other options like playing 3 or sonic and knuckles on their own and maybe a few more modes or something (perhaps even a few more characters even as just skins)
the licensing company that held the copyrights for all of Jackson's music has dragged their feet quite intensely ever since the investigations post mortem began. the last time we ever saw the original jackson music was in the rom dlc release available for Steam in the Sega Genesis Collection.
Actually, the music of Sonic 3 & Knuckles isn't new, they're the soundtrack of the Windows 95 port. Although I feel like the "unpolished" prototype soundtrack was superior than these new tracks.
I mean it's aight for what it is. I do really like the amount of effort that went into the presentation tho
I will buy it today, it looks fun
The problem I have with Sonic 2 is when Tails gets stuck somewhere, he doesn't respawn off-screen until I reach a boss, so I can't use his flying ability for assistance. Well, at least for the Switch. I dunno if any platforms have this problem.
That is literally the only glitch I've found in the game. No idea what all the other so-called glitches are supposed to be. I guess if the Sonic fandom finds ONE glitch they want to hang everyone at sega :/
I played it on steam and am glad to say I haven't experienced any performance issues : D
100% agree any fan of the classic games needs Origins, Yh we already got these games and they’re in other collections but the new features really make it worth it imo
can you disable the spindash and dropdash in sonic 1? i swear, i cannot stand playing sonic 1 with those, it A) feels weird and B) feels wrong
Let me just say, while the Sonic 3 & Knuckles music issue is, well, an issue, I can’t believe that they not only re-added Big Arms, but how they handled the ending of Launch Base Zone Act 2. I absolutely LOVE how they reimplemented the unused Eggman animations, AND USED THE SONIC & KNUCKLES INTRO SCREEN!
I LOVE IT!
This is the best port for Sonic Origins
I freaking knew they would change the music ever since last year
My review of the cutscenes as a storyguy:
Pretty cool. There are some lore-inaccuracies, but most of them can be pushed onto them not wanting to ruin the pacing and some of the context only working with dialogue. I feel they still do a good job representing these games. Heck, one of the inaccuracies actually improves the story because according to the fantranslators, Knuckles in the Sonic 3 manual went like "Where are the Chaos Emeralds!?", even tho they weren't on angel island for a long time, which makes absolutely no sense. And this was omitted in the cutscene where it just shows him and Eggman meeting.
My thoughts on the "new tracks" in Sonic3&Knux:
Not good. They sound worse than any prior relevant versions of these themes. Jun dropping the L big time. And I'm not kidding. I listened to the prototype, clean uploads of the PC-version, the genesis conversion of the PC-version from the fanmade complete-version and the remasters of the prototype from AIR, they all surpass the new version. Ice cap is the least bad case because it only sounds slightly worse, but...that doesn't say much, it is not supposed to be inferior at all.
I can't give any thoughts on the gameplay because I don't have it and won't have it for a while because I will pick up Fire Emblem Three Hopes instead next time I have enough money to buy something. Those are just my personal priorities. I want to say tho that it is ironic that they still use denuvo, because it is counterproductive. One needs to go to the pirates to get a better experience because a copy that has the DRM removed runs better and is easier to mod. Legit players have a worse experience than people who do not pay, which should never be the case. I get that DRM of any kind is important to push week1-sales at the least, but they really should think of one that gives the consumerbase less grief.
One last thing, preserving the original experience vs QoL:
This product very much fails, everyone already knows. Annivmode is pointless because of lack of options and Classic mode fails because it does not replicate how the game was originally. Yadayada.
Fun fact: a lot of the old cheat codes from the classic genesis games work with these ports.
I love how he doesn't know that the emeralds get saved every time you reset, so you can get all chaos emeralds in all Sonics in the first stage every time you reset
I pre-ordered the deluxe version on Steam only to have it crash just after the autosave prompt came up. I wish I could give my own review, but unfortunately Denuvo is just fucking up the experience for me. I should be getting a better PC soon, so hopefully I can play it then, but it's good to see that people are enjoying it right now.
Apparently some people are saying frame rates are even an issue which is crazy if true.
Those 3D menus look nice, but are they really worth an added premium price tag?
When I woke on release day I went straight to the music museum. After hearing ice cap zone I knew I just wasted $70 aud
A lot of work was put into Sonic Origins, I hate seeing all the people who say it’s lacklustre.
A "Buttery smooth" game with a "buttery smooth" port, nothing like having all this "buttery smooth" content by having a nice "buttery smooth" gallery on top of a "buttery smooth" menu. I had a blast playing through the "buttery smoothness" of the controls and framerate, the music just gives this "buttery smooth" vibe that everyone can enjoy, a true "buttery smooth" masterpiece of a game.
I give this a........ buttery smooth/10
can't be any more "buttery smooth" than that with this vocabulary
That was buttery smooth writing.
I think this is the definitive way to play the classic games
The songs in sonic 3 aren’t new. They’re the original songs for those zones from the beta. I actually like them better, they sound more like the other zones.
Honestly? It feels good to play the whitehead ports of Sonic 1, CD, and 2 on something other than mobile. And this is how i experienced Sonic 3K for the first time, yes i know i should have probably experienced it sooner. For the levels with the music changed i just put on some earphones with the OG tracks playing on a CZcams video, after i did that i did give the new tracks a shot, and they are just ok, not horrible just weird and they feel sort of out of place, like if a game played a happy song during a sad moment, it felt that strange, overall tho, the package is good with the extras it comes with, overpriced? Yes definitely, at least in my opinion, but it was a nice way to spend Sonic’s 31 years of existing, and i know this game will probably be the Sonic Mega Collection of new fans for their childhoods, bringing new fans into the series, especially those on the Switch version…
Jackson's team songs were the replacements on Ice Cap, Carnival Night and Launch base. The ones are in the game are the original compositions as in the PC colection
End Credits theme was Jackson's team too.
"but that is NOTHING, compared to my CHILD, Ice Cap Zone"
matt now owns ice cap zone, no questions asked
I unlocked everything in the museum. Definitely took advantage of debug mode for coins. lol
Do you unlock Xbox achievements/PlayStation trophies on debug mode?
The music changes are to the beta versions. I saw that setting in the sonic 3 air
Can you really get mad at sega for changing the music though? I mean they didn't really have much of a choice. I'm sure they would keep the music but it would literally be against the law of copyright.
True.
I prefer the new one anyway
I've honestly been a big fan of the Sonic output we've been getting after the first movie. Sure, Sonic Colors Ultimate was, not gonna sugarcoat it, REALLY broken at launch, but I ended up loving it after the most recent patch. Sonic Origins on the other hand, I loved it as soon as it launched
It's so good to finally have Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3 & Knuckles officially remastered on modern consoles and this is probably the way I'll be playing the Classic Sonic games from now on. The new animated cutscenes are SWEET! I have a lot of fun looking through the gallery, just like I did with Mega and Gems collection (thought I do have to agree that I wish they had some calm and "nostalgic" music playing in the background like with those collections). I really like Mission Mode, it's a great way to practice the games' mechanics and even though most of the S-ranks are on the easier side, they're still a lot of fun to get. Mirror Mode is neat, even though it feels REALLY weird to play if you're used to playing these games normally
Overall, Origins is definitely worth it and it's a fantastic package for both newcomers and Classic Sonic fans alike. I hope this introduces many new fans to the Sonic series, they have a blast with it and maybe will become interested in checking out other games in the series. Happy 31st Birthday, Sonic!! 🎉🎂🎊
Also, even though the game just came out, I guess this can be considered a super hot take: I actually like the versions of the S3 Prototype music they used for this collection. I don't think I would say that I prefer them to the originals, but I don't think they're terrible in the slightest (It's like the Sonic Colors Ultimate remixes all over again)
Carnival Night sounds bit weird (feels like I'm listening to Ristar music, like some people say) but Ice Cap and Launch Base sound nice to me.
Also Origins Launch Base's lowered pitch gives it a somewhat less cheerful feel to me? I'm surprised people hate it so much, considering many people prefer the more serious feel the Michael Jackson track gave the stage.
As a side note I also quite like the Colors Ultimate remixes, especially Aquarium Park (Gives it an extra Japanese flair)
there's a really strong chance that when someone will mod the classic s3&k soundtrack into the game.
The Frame Drop the Classic versions even had on the Sega Genesis.
I never experienced any frame drops on the Genesis.