LIVE! Baldwin Trial Day 2: What Does The Jury Think Of The Lawyering?
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Tune in to the live coverage of the Baldwin Trial Day 2 as we discuss the jury's thoughts on the lawyering in the Rust shooting case involving Alec Baldwin. Stay updated on the latest developments in this high-profile case!
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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome
0:41 Intro
0:51 Crime Scene Technician - Marissa Poppell - Testimony
6:23 Q&A
7:27 What is Alec Baldwin's Duty?
9:08 Crime Scene Technician - Marissa Poppell - Testimony Cont.
11:20 Prosecution inapropriate Objections
14:33 Q&A
15:57 Crime Scene Technician - Marissa Poppell - Testimony Cont.
26:54 Prosecution Objections
32:42 Q&A
33:30 Prosecution Objections
37:44 Judge Ruling on Baldwin Statements
40:00 Q&A
40:55 What Baldwin Statements Will Be Used?
44:36 Baldwin Walks Out
49:26 Judge Punishing Defense For Turning Redactions To Statements In Late
50:23 Will Jury Know About Hannah Guitterez?
51:42 Someone Gave Police Live Ammunition From Rust Set?
59:50 Italian Gun Manufacture - Alessandro Pietta
1:00:35 Q&A
1:01:43 Pietta Testimony Cont.
1:04:54 Summarizing Day 2
1:05:10 Conclusion
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Have to say Peter after watching trials on multiple channels, you've become my favourite. I feel like you are the only one who is willing to take each case and be open to it's particularities, wait for the evidence and not come in with preconceived notions and project them onto your audience. It's refreshing to see someone else interested in fairness rather then having an echo chamber type of channel. Congrats, this says a lot about you as a human and as a lawyer.
It is hard to stay unbiased but Peter is good .
yess hes very humble and open to all perspectives
@@BlackStump172 oh absolutely, and we all are more or less biased towards the side we are leaning. What grates my gears is when people refuse to admit to bias, or god forbid you comment an opposing view and you'll end up with a bunch of people acting like you've offened the entire family of the youtuber. It feels cult like in my opinion. But on this channel I've seen multiple times, people actually having debates without throwing fits,and that's very nice.
❤
@BlackStump172 Totally agree! He is the only lawyer on law tube that I subscribe to because of just that. I do love EDB too she is pretty great but only a subscriber of one so far 😊
Baldwin asked his attorney if he could run to the restroom. The attorney said yes, as soon as Sparo saw him leave the other attorney told him he is just going to the restroom. That was completely fine with everyone, not a problem. Larry was in the courtroom, heard and saw it all and it was not a problem for anyone.
Then why did everyone act like they had a problem and approach the bench to discuss it?
His aghast expression and his swiveling head was, indeed, humorous.
I’m a lawyer of 30 years and listening to this condescending prosecutor is almost unbearable. Lawyers like her can make the practice of law a very unpleasant profession. Just brutal.
She’s so annoying.
@@marybethwelchcollins6673 If she didn't have someone's life in her hands, she'd have my sympathy. As it is, I wish her the acting job she seems to want.
wow, peter manipulated you well... LOL...
watch the firearms attorneys - particularly branca. baldwin is GUILTY AF and defense is distorting the facts, incriminating anyone but their client...
FACTS over EMOTIONS.
Not a lawyer, but yes, I agree, don’t care for her style of litigation
Sooo annoying!
As much as I have disagreed with Alec Baldwin's public mistreatment of people, and with how rudely he's treated people, at times, I still do respect him as a human and want nothing more than for him to get a fair trial under the law, because I want that for every U.S. citizen who's accused of any crime, in accordance with the United States Constitution. I'm from a military and law enforcement family, and we've had firearms for decades. As I watch this trial I think of the 5 basic rules for firearms handling:
1. treat every gun as if it were loaded;
2. always point gun in safe direction;
3. never point your gun at anything you don’t intend to shoot;
4. keep your finger off the trigger until you’re ready to shoot; and
5. be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
I know of no "Hollywood Actor Exception" to any of those rules, so I'm skeptical that "the Hollywood Way" will excuse AB from liability here. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. Personally, I think all guns used in all productions should be empty. Completely empty. The flashes and bangs can be added to films in the editing room. No need, with all the AI available, for any dangerous weapons to be used in film. Thank you for covering this case, Peter. It's an interesting one. RIP Ms. Hutchins.
we need to know WHAT THE RULES are on a movie set - simple as that! WAS Baldwin following set rules put forth - THE TOP ISSUE is allowing the live rounds on the set to do target practice -
Perfect comment 👏
Agree 100%. My stepdad taught me how to shoot first with just a pellet gun and even for a non lethal firearm those rules ALWAYS applied
@@patriotiac572 Agree 👍. Your rules are dead on.
I couldn’t care less. Baldwin would spit on and mock and belittle the likes of me - someone who supports 2A, voted Trump, dislikes Dems, thinks trans kids is weird and gross, etc. Why should I afford to him what he would never afford to me?
I tried to watch this live today, but got so aggravated by ALL the lawyers, I had to stop.
Waited for Peter’s recap!
Same.
Same same
Yes !!!! I really tried …couldn’t do it
Me too! It was too irritating to watch. I’d rather work. 😂
I was going to watch the entire trial, but between watching the witness continually smirk during cross and then look over at the prosecution table and struggling to watch Morrissey’s nasty attitude, I might tap out and just come here for updates.
Peter, you always cover cases with such class, respect, and Grace. Even when you point out a frustrating situation you have faced in court, you do it without trashing or Throwing Shade.😊
I'm surprised the defense isn't asking the judge to tell the prosecutor not to talk to him directly! She's running over him and the judge!
Peter, the judge made a definitive ruling that all objections will be made at her bench. Why is she allowing this prosecutor to disobey her ruling? I mean, who’s in charge of this courtroom?!?!
Especially after having watched Bolles trial. They should've been prepared for her antics and had a gameplan from the start.
Not to mention she is STILL going way beyond scope in her redirect like the first trial. They should be objecting to all this behavior.
Well- we don’t know if he is doing that during sidebars or not. I’m sure he’d get struck down by the judge for “causing an argument” in open court. However- the judge gets swept into the antics as well. She came out swinging with pre-trial handing them so many restrictions on how they can’t act, but the second the jury came into the room, she’s letting the prosecution not just do speaking objections but literally moan and groan “your honor PLEEEEASE” instead of even actual objections! And the judge has made her own commentary like “they’re going to object like this so you need to do this” … like excuse me, you don’t get to object for the prosecution 😂 if they flop, that’s on them?? It’s so crazy
Yea makes me lose respect for the judge. She was so adamant beforehand that she wouldn’t allow that in her courtroom. Definitely favoring prosecution.
Seth Kenney needs to be charged!! I truly believe he started all of this by giving them a live ammo!!
It was proven that Seth Kenney didn't provide live ammo. It was proven that Hannah Gutierrez did.
28:14 You’re not overreacting, Peter❣️ Please don’t second guess yourself. Narcissists purposefully provoke their adversary to use their reactions as distractions from their own actions. ⚖️
The witness laughing at her isn't a good look, either.
Wait !! Hold up !! He walked out ? Was he sanctioned for it ?
@@tidusjecht9143You don’t run right to sanctions if a defendant run away to the washroom. Not unless there have been repeated issue of the same type with no change to the behaviour.
Their argument about how dummies v live rounds being indistinguishable from each other and ‘Baldwin never could of prevented the shooting.. it was an accident’ falls so short for me - it’s preventable by following basic gun safety.. just don’t point a weapon at someone.. and defs don’t point it and proceed to fire it directly at someone.. see easily prevented. The sheer arrogance and the ego of Baldwin irks me.
@@winterssea3455that argument doesn’t hold up in Hollywood when the role requires you to point it at someone or the camera (and a human is going to be near it). This is why safety before you do that is imperative
I want to have the Italian guy tell me all about his day! 😂. He’s so sweet
He had a lovely accent. Not always easy to understand but lovely.
That guy single-handedly calmed the whole courtroom-you could feel everyone’s tension dropping because he was so nice and calm
Love your dad!!
Mediterranean charm@@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468
@@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 Mediterranean charm!
While I think Morrissey makes good points at times, her condescending, snide tone makes me HATE every time she gets up. The other prosecutor is fantastic tho.
That said, I'm SUPER annoyed with the judge not reining Morrissey's nonsense in. She shouldn't need the defense to object, because she quit LITERALLY told them before they even started that she did NOT want speaking objections & Morrissey has ignored that order completely. Defense is clearly trying to stay true to that request even tho they seemed shocked that's the way the judge wanted it done but you can really see the frustration building from the defense when Morrissey is sniping at HIM in FRONT of the jury. I hate it, I hate it SO much & it's AWFUL that the judge isn't snapping at her to cut that sh1t out. 😠
💯💯💯
It’s ridiculous that she hasn’t chastised her in open court outside of the jury. After she made such a stink about telling the defence attorney that she wasn’t going to even allowed grounds.
Actually she said she wanted ALL objections to approach the bench. ALL. That’s how the other case went too. This rule was broken almost immediately and only a couple of times did the judge say anything. The judge even ANSWERED some speaking objections 🤦🏻♀️
Pete its so good to hear you doing your thing outside the KR case. Well done ❤
How I feel about prosecutor , right or wrong , if I was a juror , I would be soooo irritated, I would be rooting for the defense ….
Me too, on some level. Of course not sure yet how is vote.
I felt similarly annoyed in the previous trial. Now the defense's facial expressions also put me off bc its also unprofessional. I feel for the jury. The only break they get from eyerolls is with the other lawyers.
kudos.
on the side of the narcisst who killed a young woman and incriminates everyone - but himself 🤣🤣🤣
It makes her look desperate in my opinion.
Same. And I can't stand Alec Baldwin.
Regardless of my personal feelings of the defendant though, _every_ defendant deserves a fair trial and a fair prosecutor. Morrisey is disgusting.
The blond prosecuter acts entitled and the investigator was smirking. If I was on the jury, I would hate them both, and I am not a big AB fan.
I don’t like AB a ton as a person (though he is a funny comedic actor). Prosecutor makes me want him to be found innocent just to spite her nasty nature. Prosecutors wouldn’t want me on that jury at this point.
@@thathappensalot1352same and i hope the jury feels the same way. i want him to “best” her SO BAD!!!
I had a STRONG dislike of this prosecutor's behavior in Hannah's trial, and I am certain it would leave a bad taste in my mouth as a juror. At least she's asking for sidebars during some objections in this trial. I suspect Baldwin's atty sorted that out from the start.
It's frustrating, based on the information I've seen so far, I believe he's guilty of this charge. BUT, I absolutely hate shady tactics to try and "win" that charge. I don't believe they need to be underhanded to win this based on the facts they have, and that it's abhorrent for the state to prosecute through gamesmanship or corruption than actual facts.
Honestly, I would be far more annoyed that the defense wasted like two whole hours going over things that are not at all relevant to this case. Yes the prosecutor comes off as smug and entitled, but part of that fault lies with the judge for not keeping her in line, but the defense feels like they are grasping at straws here and trying to deflect the attention away from the actual issues in this case. Spending something like two hours talking about how the live rounds ended up on the set has literally nothing to do with Baldwin's handling of the gun on the day in question. The case involving how the rounds ended up on set has already happened.
He was rocking back and forth,, you could see the anger
Alec Baldwin KNOWS that you don't point a gun at someone and pull the trigger. It's literally, as you said... common sense. I don't believe for one second that he didn't pull that trigger. The fact is, Halyna Hutchins would still be alive if not for two people: Hannah Gutierrez-Reed and Alec Baldwin.
@@amandamiddleton6987 After so many years as an actor with no such incidents I have to wonder if Alec just trusted this production company hired the right people and went with “the flow” truly believing nothing was going to be coming out of that gun and that it was “all dummied up” or whatever. It’s certainly not an excuse, you should always follow safety when it comes to firearms but I don’t think he had any intention of murder - negligence? Perhaps - not sure of that either honestly… but intentional murder? It’s a no from me
@@lisap8547 I do NOT believe he intentionally murdered this woman. I believe he's guilty of involuntary manslaughter... just absolute negligence.
I thought the crime scene woman came off as very uncooperative and smug at the end. I was annoyed with her and with the prosecutor.
Any time a witness begins looking at the prosecutor with a “can you believe this / save me” look during cross examination, it makes me immediately question their testimony from then on out 🤷🏻♀️
I agree with this 100%. It was obvious to me that she was trying to be uncooperative with her not recalling anything and her facial expressions. Morrissey was extremely annoying, abrupt and rude to defense council. Very, very off putting if I were a juror
I agree they also spent way to much time crossing her imo.
Where did her attitude come from? What was up with that?
SAME
With all those live bullets floating around, I as a juror would feel that this unfortunate accident was bound to happen, by anyone. How scary that so many live bullets was on the set. This fact alone I could not find AB guilty.
So because anyone could do it, he’s not guilty? He disregarded safety protocols, all of them.
THIS is what I believe should be everyone’s main concern.
The fact that they were also in Jensen’s belt (or whatever the terminology was) made my eyes pop open! It really was bound to be a catastrophe regardless of who did what! Yikes
@@BlueDauntlessI don't think it exonerates him, but I think it's a piece of the puzzle, and this trial (imo) will be a balancing act of facts very specific to his situation.
For example, based on my knowledge of his reputation, I think this would be a VERY different case with VERY different coverage if it was Jensen Ackles that had the gun.
@@amandamacabreHe’d already have served his time or took a plea. That’s the difference.
He knew using guns with blanks could be dangerous and be fatal And he still pointed the gun and pulled trigger.
There were no blanks. They were supposed to be dummies…completely inert.
@@DocTJBAnd yet they weren’t. If he knew, this would be a homicide trial.
Alas, it’s an involuntary manslaughter trial, which the defense keeps getting wrong.
Why comment when u don't know the facts
If she handed you the gun and said "cold gun" would you point it at yourself and shoot without checking? Someone else's life is just as important.
Bingo
It’s a little more than that. There were two separate people (professionals) who cleared that gun. And if you take the time to watch all the filming behind-the-scenes, you’ll see Alec Baldwin, and others constantly pointing the guns, not only at others but themselves.
Yes I would, and have, in a scene calling for that action and using a gun that was filled with dummies…completely inert. Blanks are dangerous, dummies are not. If after safety check by armorer and second and told cold gun, yep…that’s called acting and actors do it all the time. We were actually forbidden to recheck it cuz it would have to go back to the armorer and start over then…
@@sunsensationalIt’s not more than that. It wasn’t cleared in front of him. I don’t believe he’d point it at his head and pull the trigger if they didn’t clear it in front of him. Maybe a less experienced actor, but not one with decades of experience/
@@BlueDauntlesshe didn't do anything wrong actors point guns all the time
I've heard the same thing about actors not opening their own gun and I also heard that even if they were to open it and check it that the armorer is supposed to come back over and recheck it just in case.
It has to stop somewhere. If a licensed Armorer loads a weapon & declares it a
“ Cold Gun” & hands it to an actor who then removes each individual round to check for himself is the armorer supposed to take that gun back, remove each round & recheck to ensure the actor reloaded it properly?
Does every actor in the country have to become a firearms expert experienced in all types of ammo ? Blanks, dummy rounds, 1/4 loads, half loads, etc?
It’s ridiculous! Actors hire professional armorers to ensure that the weapon they are handed is loaded with the Ammo that the scene calls for. Also, I keep hearing from gun owners who say “ cardinal rule…never point a gun at another person”.
They ignore the fact that ITS A MOVIE! How can you possibly film a scene involving a gun fight without pointing the gun directly at a person or in the general direction of several people. The other actor, the director, the camera crew are all in the line of fire. They don’t magically edit a film to make it look realistic.
Actors have to deal with all sorts of theoretical risks and situations. You can't make safety from moment to moment be their responsibility.
Imagine if they are playing a character who is careless as a core part of their personality.
It is up to everybody else on set to do whatever is required to let that actor BECOME that character.
@michaelcalland801 Finally, a logical discussion on the difference between actors using firearms, and everyone else.
@@michaelcalland801THANK YOU 🤯 a big question I have for this case is if AB (or any actor for that matter) is supposed to essentially be a firearm expert WHAT is the point of hiring armorers and safety coordinators?? His job was to sling a gun, their jobs were to ensure it was safe to do so. I definitely wouldn’t discourage actors from wanting to take extra precautions if that makes them feel more comfortable handling them, but to insinuate that he should’ve had the same level of knowledge as those who handed it to him and called it safe really seems unrealistic for the industry as a whole. But who knows, maybe we will see changes in the future because of this.
The armorer the prosecution brought in HGR case said this!
I found that tech evasive and snide. Gave me Jenn Mcabe vibes.
Exactly
I wonder why. She was being asked questions that weren’t related to her and should have been asked of detectives. Instead defense badgered her for HOURS over it. I’d be snide too.
The judge told them in pretrial that they were not supposed to do this..the DA is really interrupting alot
And this is so confusing because judge said "no" but she's not holding Morrissey to the standard she set!!
As a juror I would be annoyed with the prosecution for so many interruptions and annoyed at the defense for not being a little more assertive with that first “expert” witness.
Agreed the blonde prosecutor is absolutely annoying with all the interruptions and sidebars and the Judge is weak and not pulling her back in line!
The whole trail appears a bit shambolic, they should have preagreed what evidence can be admitted and what cannot.
@@Jels1979 I think defense is on a different tight rope. They know Morrissey will obstruct (that's what her objections are) so he has to land the questionable doubt carefully.
@@SandyKnauerMorgan true, I can see that.
because peter is telling you to.
Someone tweeted they were in the courtroom and heard him excuse himself to go to the bathroom
I didn’t see it the first time I watched, but in replay I did see him talk to his lawyer before leaving.
But it was a little jarring if you didn’t see him with the lawyer first.
Yeah ive never seen that before I know Jury wasn’t in there.. his other lawyer is like wtf lol then walked in with coffee wasn’t a good look!
Yet his lawyer seemed quite stunned and confused as to him leaving. Then Alex comes in with coffee, if I couldn't hold my bladder or otherwise I think perhaps it would behoove to lay off all liquids just in case because he will be looked at and scrutinized closely and today, imo, he really failed to present himself in a respectful and conscientious manner.
@@TheIllumineGroupHe talked with the lawyer at the table… not Spiro, I can’t remember his name.
@@Peigirl1985It’s a bad look for the public and the judge though. So not completely inconsequential, but it would be much worse if he did that in front of the jury.
I've watched several other channels, but you're the first to say some of the things I'm thinking.
I don't understand why an actor is not expected to be held to the same rules.
Thank you for adding such detailed chapters on all your new videos Peter!!
It’s remarkable
I don’t think AB’s actions and expressions are helping him either.
Sure winning my sympathy- and the hateful, irrational criticisms of him double it.
Typical crybaby Democrat he has expressed...
@@JamieKenny-h5b thank you for noticing! I have loved myself forever because I am able to care about others.
@@JamieKenny-h5btypical Republican turning it into politics!
@@kimr808 I agree. I think Kari Morrissey, the blonde prosecutor, might be aware that she's pushing AB's buttons and maybe she's trying to get a rise out of him. I recall he attacked a photographer, in New York City, many years ago when he was married to Kim Basinger, and he also has has other outbursts in public ever since. I wonder if the prosecutor is intentionally subtly annoying AB so that the jury can see that he can be reckless at times, i.e. willing to ignore the substantial and unjustifiable risk of harm (to his defense case) that his reactions might cause.....
I’m so glad you’re covering this. I was shocked when he got up and walked out!! How entitled!! I’ve been on the fence about him as a person, but now, oh man, he rubs me the wrong way. No respect whatsoever for the court, the hardworking people in the court, and the laws, rules, and ethics of court. That walk out said everything (as a person, not saying he’s guilty because he walked out). What a POS.
That's how I felt with the Gwyneth paltrow trial, I felt she was so fake and entitled and knew she hurt that man, everyone kissed her ass and lied for her
“ On the fence about him as a person….”
Have you ever heard the voicemail he left for his daughter Ireland who was 12yo at the time ? He screams at her & calls her a “Rotten Little Pig” & some other very nasty comments. Anyone who talks to a 12yo little girl that way, never mind their own daughter is an irredeemable POS in my book…
I think it might have been medical. He came back holding what might have been a handkerchief.
@@debbievalentine6810Don’t like Paltrow but she had reason to be angry with the con artist .
What if he just needed the bathroom?
Think AB has anger management problems.
I don't know about the jury, but she gives me feelings that could land me right where Baldwin is at the moment!!!!!!
😂🤣
😂
Best comment! She is unbelievable. And I don’t understand why she is allowed to get away with her antics!!!!!
Yikes!
She's just intolerable. So hard to watch. She's perpetually pissed and snarky which may not bode well to the jury.
Not a fan of Alex, but I think his lawyer handled the issue very professionally.
Alec
Great actor though
@@user-gn8mr8jt5l😮
Were we watching the same trial?
@@garysmith1863yes he is and he was gorgeous back in the day. Love his older movies. But he definitely can be obnoxious
I read lips. “I can’t {take it anymore} I’m stepping out.
I do too! I saw, “gotta run to restroom.”
Me too! I read, “Gonna crap my pants”.
@@Jade_902maybe he has a leaky balloon knot as well.
Me too “this is so mundane, I need some coffee. BRB!”
the fragile celebrity inflated ego is showing and Baldwin isn't doing himself any favors sitting there, arms folded, steam coming out of his head. If I were on the jury, I would interpret this as impatient, arrogant behavior that may have set the stage for safety protocol to be bullyed-down.
Definitely dislike the prosecutor! SO rude! As a juror, I would be offended by her constant interruptions because it would make MY role more complicated!
Was her objection valid? Yes it was
@@tuscanyjcBut they are not really as she is losing a lot of them once at the bench which is obvious as spiro is allowed to keep re asking the question etc
Never be a juror, you don’t understand how it works.
poss is a rude and condisending when she talks to witnesses all the objections spiro doesnt know where to turn when she keeps pbjecting. thx peter like how u break it down.
Most jurors have never watched a jury trial before so they have no measuring stick for what is rude or not. They would just assume that prosecutors are always like this, defence lawyers are always like this etc
YYK is so friggin stable and can be so neutral when explaining. Awesome
You missed some stuff here, Peter. When the judge decided on Baldwin’s words being kept in, the defense attorneys were soooo upset saying that they relied on ruling. The judge said they completely misunderstood. Also, The judge (after lunch) made a point of wanting Baldwin present. That’s why his attorney looked so worried and everyone approached.
Was gonna say the same.
He did address how the Defense said they relied on the prior ruling. He said it could be a big issue on appeal if the Judge did indeed reverse her prior ruling.
YEP! Wonder if Peter’s thoughts would change if he knew the judge had ordered him to be there.
@@peterbruno657 Yes but it seems he missed the bit about the judge ordering Baldwin to be in the courtroom for those arguments. (Which is probably why his poor lawyer was freaking out! 🙃)
Wasn't this witness well versed in Hannah's trial? This trial I can feel her hostility.
I was wondering what that was about when he walked out of court. That wouldn't look good if the jury was there.
They waited to start the hearing on Baldwin’s statements after lunch because the court said he needed to be present so even the though the jury wasn’t there, the court was in the record and Baldwin wasn’t free to just walk out as he pleased.
I was late to that and I wondered what happened.
I always wondered about bathroom breaks. If you're a Juror or a dependent and need to use the bathroom really bad, what happens? Some people have to use the bathroom way more often than others.
I would want to know also
Thank you Peter for continuing to keep us updated on this trial! 💗 I always value your insights and expertise. Have a wonderful time tomorrow evening with your wife! 💞
I live in Santa Fe. Lots of movie people here that won’t work with him!
Lots of movie people on Santa Fe??
Before or after the accident? Just curious.
It's Santa Fe 😂 He'll survive. 😂
There is a general rule that you do not point a gun at anyone ,unless you aim to shoot them. Even in this situation,Alec Baldwin should have never pulled the trigger or pointed the gun at anyone.He is responsible for his actions regardless of rules on the set. It is simply Personal responsibility for safety while holding a gun All he had to do is say ,move back , I'm not comfortable pointing this at anyone. Camera angles can be improvised to accomplish a scene . His personal irresponsible actions caused the death of another and he should be held accountable.
When I was learning to shoot, the first thing was: NEVER point even an EMPTY gun at a person. It was in my hunting class and if he knew about guns, what the heck was he doing pointing that gun directly at her?
Whether he should've checked the gun or not is really irrelevant.
He still recklessly pointed it at her. That violates basic gun safety and the SAG guidelines.
Even if he didn't pull the trigger. He was liable because he pointed it at another human when he knew (or should've known) it was reckless to do so.
I don't see how he gets over this fact.
Add in all of his other reckless behavior and this should be a very easy conviction.
It is also dangerous to drive at high speed and to launch a car off of a ramp
@@MinusEighty That is dangerous. So is jumping out of an airplane or off a building.
@@MinusEightyObjection. Relevance.
I agree Peter. She’s annoying and interrupting him continually.
THE ATTY'S reaction was more out of line than Baldwin storming out. I wanted to punch the DA myself, and I am NOT a Baldwin fan ....im a person who dislikes his "type" ...but especially arrogant angry sttitudes that he has practiced t o perfection!
I read a post that stated while the armorer was trying to meet with AB before the incident he was constantly on the phone with his family. Also that he was “to busy” to attend the firearms training made available
I think Baldwin walking out like he did and the look on his lawyer’s face, was the highlight of today…I didn’t know you could just get up like that, without telling anyone, and go to the bathroom. Then stop for a drink on the way back.That just seemed ballsy to me!
I know! I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before
He had to use the restroom. A drink was offered to him, he accepted it, but he didn’t even break stride on his way back to the courtroom.
Did you see him rocking right before he left? Something was bothering him. Could have been a bathroom emergency, but I think he was angry and about to lose it.
I thought so too, but he came back w/coffee. 🤦♀️
Side effects of the meds he is likely on... akathesia.. not anger..
Totally agree!
@@carly4445he went to the bathroom and his SISTER handed him cofee. Her own words and people in court
That prosecutor is driving me crazy! I can't believe the judge is not keeping her in line. It reminds me of the Crumbly trial.
If I were a juror, I would be put off by the prosecutor. I don't like people breaking the rules. It makes me think that if she's not willing to follow courtroom rules, she might be bending rules in other places too. Not fully trustworthy.
I would be sympathetic towards the defense lawyer, since he is obviously trying harder to keep decorum and fairness.
She knows her shit.
@@grumylynnshe does indeed. If I had a family member have something terrible happen, I would want her getting justice for them.
I have more smoke for the judge honestly. She is supposed to be the ref keeping the lawyers in line and she is not doing anything to stop this even though she gave a direct order to the lawyers not do do what they are doing. If a lawyer knows they can get away with something, they are going to keep doing it. It is the job of the JUDGE to keep the lawyers in line and she is doing nothing.
She's a defense attorney in New Mexico that kicks the regular prosecution's butt so hard they actually hired her to be the prosecution on this trial. Last summer she got snowboarder Dean Cummings acquitted of murder, and he shot a guy with an AR15 from 3 feet away with no witnesses. It's Kari Morrisey, btw.
She’s a career criminal defense attorney. She was appointed as a prosecutor in this case.
And I think she’s awesome. She’s picking apart the defense’s weak cross line by line.
And the defense is hella shady by constantly talking about this case as a homicide charge, which it isn’t. And only confuses the jury, which is what they want!
Common sense, to me, would be you never ever ever point a gun at a person and pull the trigger! NEVER
I don’t care for the prosecutor at all. The reading glasses off n on, the squinting. She makes good points but her mannerisms drive me nuts!!
Same!!!🤦🏻♀️
Morrisey rubs ppl the wrong way, but she is an effective lawyer. Spirit will hold her to the law though, I feel she got away with a lot (leading) in Hannah’s trial that stronger lawyers will hold her feat to the fire and require her to follow the rules.
Agreed- both of the prosecutors are annoying
She appears to be working on very little sleep, her outfits look unkempt not crisp and sharp as they should. And her hair? Not the best look for her. 😊Just my humble opinion.
@@anaventura2356 may be true, curious if you would comment same if it were a man?
I’ve never seen that happen, not with counsel either. Disrespectful
The answer is to just let them have audible objections. The jury can then see if she is just being obstructive or if she has valid points.
It seems that objecting and at least giving the reason for the objection is second nature to them.
No…because arguments around objections can include arguing inadmissible information.
The jury already knows because however the lawyer questioning her continues will tell them if they won or not. If they move on, that means they lost. It’s not appropriate to discuss this stuff in front of the jury. Hence the rules of court that require the lawyer to JUST say “objection” followed by the name of that objection (hearsay, not in evidence, calls for speculation).
The lawyer chick’s objections seem effective. You keep saying the judge runs a tight ship, but lets her keep doing it.
You missed the part where they had to wait for Alex after lunch because he was late. Also in the beginning the Judge told the press if they don't start throwing away their water bottles and coffee cups, they will not be allowed to bring them in court anymore. Then Alec, entitled, privileged Alec, walks out because he needed a coffee? His brother could have gotten it. The ACTOR You did not name is Jensen Ackles!!!! Many of us are horrified by how close he was to this!!! He told the police he ALWAYS checks! Always!!
I totally 💯 agree with you Peter on Morrisey (sp.) Sidebar !! She drives me NUTS ! Always !
Justice has been served. Alex is a free man so he should be.
The other thing that boggles my brain as a gun owner. Why in the world did they need ANY ammo in the gun for practice? There was zero reason to have any explosives in a rehearsal, especially since Baldwin felt the need to rush so badly.
Wow. that's a good point? Apparently this is how they do it in the movies... but if so,, why?
@@Lariiah see, I thought when they said cold gun it meant there wasn’t supposed to be any ammo in it. If that’s true, they told him it was cold (if I understood correctly). We have more guns than people in our house, and gun safety started when my kids were little playing with nerf guns. Don’t put your finger on the trigger until you’ve ready to fire. They got lectures on real gun safety every time they messed up - “you learn safety now so it’s ingrained into your soul how to respect a deadly weapon”. However, if AB never grew up in steeped in those types of lessons and movie guns are his only experience, would he treat weapons the same way actual gun owners do?
@thathappensalot1352 You raise a valid point. I had 3 sons and lived upstate NY. I worked at a hunting lodge from October through December, and my boys were taught gun safety from a very early age as well. They were given 22. Rifles for their 11th birthdays, but we removed the bolts and had the ammo, so there was never an opportunity for an accident. That being said. It shouldn't matter if you're using a prop gun, which is a real gun, because it can fire live ammo or any other gun. You have a responsibility to know what you're doing.
AB was also a producer and hired an inexperienced armorer after being turned down by 3 others from what I saw. He rushed them, put responsibility on them that they never should have had, and in my opinion, that makes him culpable
@@Lariiah I haven’t followed this that much after the first few days it happened. I also heard rumors people were shooting cans on the set (which I haven’t heard since then), so unless it’s entered as evidence, I’m not going to consider. I do think actors should have to complete an independent gun safety training for each film - not someone who is hired for the set, but an actual gun store owner type person. My 8th and 10th grader will be getting lessons this year as auxiliary days for school.
@thathappensalot1352 I agree with you 💯 on the training. I'm sure your children will be very responsible when handling firearms. Even though it's just my husband and myself in our home now, everything is in a safe. That way, when anyone comes to visit, there are no concerns. It's a very simple and logical thing to do.
Good luck with your 2 and their adventures! 💙
Rule #1 - Never point a gun at anyone in a non-threatening situation.
Rule #2 - Always assume a gun may be loaded until verified by the person receiving the gun. Basic rule of gun safety.
This was not a prop gun per se! It was a functioning revolver. Should it have even been on the set for a rehearsal!
Prop gun, just means property of the studio.
The scene required actor to point at camera
@@LisaPeterson227That’s not how the defense is wording it.
@@z-hy8hh 1. The woman who was killed didn't look like a camera. 2. They didn't film at that time.
If a prosecutor said page and line please like that to me during a case I would be just as offended as you. This is not a minor deal.
I will preface this by saying I could be wrong, but as the daughter of a self-righteous narcissist, I feel I can spot them a mile away. That’s Carrie.
I for one find it hard to abide the smugness of Morrisey- really wanted your take on her, Peter.
AB had an odd look on his face and was rocking his chair before he walked out. Also, Spiros had a smile on his face after he turned to the other lawyer. AB was moving very quickly on the way out. I’m going with he needed to make a dash to the restroom.
But he came back with coffee! Not a good look!
@@carly4445he can't do right from wrong with u haters...sad..
The fact that the defendant tried to escape from his own criminal trial, and the bailiff didn't try to stop him it's nuts
I think there were things going on off camera. The bailiff was to the right of him, so was his other lawyer. Apparently he asked to leave and that's why he didn't get stopped at the door.
@@elysemckenzie3334 Look at his attorney's reaction when he gets up and leaves.
That is complete misinformation, he asked permission and was granted permission.
@@geoffpoole483He didn't know the other attorney had given him permission, as soon as he realized it there was no problem at all.
@@geoffpoole483reaction was priceless
Unfortunately in these adversarial environments, witnesses tend to become advocates as well. Witnesses should be instructed that they have a duty to testify to what they know and how they know it with the objective being the truth. They should have no bias, whichever side they are on.
I also think it's hard not to get defensive on cross! The lawyer is trying to undermine you and make you look less credible, and it probably sucks. I think you have to really know your stuff and be confident in your testimony to be a good witness.
@@amandamacabre Yes, no doubt there is the desire to defend one’s testimony. However, a person who accepts that they could be wrong should be prepared to answer with straight forward truth and logic.
Academics face scrutiny every single day. But we also accept that we could be wrong, so most of us will be happy to accept a new reality. The witness, like the academic is the messenger of the truth, not the owner of it.
Thanks very much for your comment!
Could you hold on for 3 hours?
Thank you Lauren!! Great job as always. Not a Petreon member but will join to catch your Gloria interview! Also my hero!! I’m fortunate to have met her 2x and she was super gracious! Gave me her card and told me to call her if I ever needed her for anything! Totally sincere!! Thank God I don’t need that kind of help!
I especially appreciate your recaps on this one. I watched the entire HGR trial. Tour De France has priority for the next couple weeks!!
Baldwin looked angry before he walked out.
He was doing a lot of self soothing rocking before he left
Yes
@@judistocker1811i do that during meeting when I have to use the bathruom
I’d be angry also! That prosecutor is freakin rude AF
He looked like he was pinching cheeks. Look at how he walks.
Nice shirt, Peter👍
My biggest problem with this whole situation is that the person holding the gun should be criminally responsible for their actions with a gun. An armorer is a civil shield for an actor. You can not disabuse me of the idea of someone handing you a firearm and claiming cold gun does not mean you should not check it. If you have a real gun you have 7 bad places you can get into. I hate all this it was a movie set, someone else was responsible, it's not my fault. Fuck that. You always have a duty to check the gun you hold with an observer as you yourself is ultimately responsible for your own actions, period. No one should be above the law period if we do not hold that line then we get to levels of society where consequences for your actions no longer matter. I hate that fact in our society. Pickles not politics.
Say it louder for people in the back!!!!
But u don't know so how can u comment on something u know zero about
Peter need another update!! Can't wait to hear your reactions from today!
Love the Italian guy ❤
Mental health therapist here, he was angry, rocking in his seat, and then he walked.
yeah, well like a lot of your kind . you have issues yourself. That was no anger , you fool - the guy is a wreck. And he's clearly medicated , with some of the crap your cohorts the psych's push . the side effects are obvious - either that or he has early PD. He needed to leave the room - could have been a multitude of reasons.. including to use the toilet....
He also asked for a bathroom break according to people in the room who tweeted. Both things can be true.
Maybe u would be angry to in his shoes
Go back to school maybe. Youre wrong
I know this is late but, look at Baldwin rocking forward and back just moments before walking out. Not seen him this way through the trial so far. He seems upset.
Great analysis tonight! Thank you so much!
As a juror, I wouldn’t be favorable to Morrissey. Her behavior & attitude really grated on me, and seemed like bad theatrics & unscrupulous harassment. If she can’t win by playing fair & respectfully, why not?
Yeah same. I don’t really care for either side at this point, but her “page and line, PAGE AND LINE” attitude is really irritating. Then her interrupting him, making him wait for her to hand him a document, etc. We can all probably relate to having a co-worker or boss or family who treats us with disrespect, and it annoys the hell out of me. And I’m no lawyer, even I know they generally don’t allow speaking objections. So when she says what she’s thinking out loud, it’s obvious she’s trying to put that thought into the jury’s mind.
Judge looked super annoyed at times today …. and Morrissey can’t resist calling out! She needs to go on the naughty step.
If the judge doesn’t enforce the rule, the lawyers are going to keep doing it. And it’s probably against all of their experience to go to the bench for every objection.
I see her with a waterbottle a lot. Maybe she doesn't drink coffee and so the threat of coffee being removed doesn't deter her. That's my working theory.
His statements are going to bite him on the rear. Team Spiro not meeting meeting time frames is prob bc Morrisey is going to make an example out of him.
Don’t out this on her. He was behaving like this in the pretrial motions, never giving the state what they needed in a timely manner. He’s not in the big city anymore
I didn’t watch Hannah’s trial so can’t compare. I have gone back and forth and back again on the attorney’s behaviors and successes or failures. I like the defense team, they are trying hard. I don’t care for AB but it’s fun to watch his postures and facial poses when he’s ticked. I was gobsmacked when AB walked out, as was his attorney. I think the judge is trying hard to keep courtroom decorum but sometimes one of the kids slaps the other and Mom has to remind them to behave. I’m going to remember to use I Can’t Recall if I’m ever called as a witness. Now that I’m retired I would have time to be on a jury without worrying about my job. I’ve learned so much watching live court and your commentary explains so well what is going on. I think Bev treated Karen Read’s jury poorly after watching this one hand over questions constantly. Bev seemed to discourage KR’s jury from interacting.
Justice has been served properly in this case. The charges have been dismissed with prejudice due to the withholding of relevant evidence by the prosecution. Gutierrez's attorney said he'll be filing a motion to overturn her conviction. I absolutely love when the system holds firm!
Of this was a ‘regular citizen’, would have been in jail awaiting trial. If someone, not a celebrity, was in this situation, we’d be found guilty. Plane and simple.
Not true.
Nope. If this was a regular citizen, they would have already served their sentence. That’s how ridiculous the shenanigans are with this celeb.
And in fact, regular people are often charged with involuntary manslaughter and convicted. I read a story about a father showing his son how to check the safety on a pistol. His daughter walks in as he accidentally pulled the trigger. She passed away and he’s in jail.
I doubt that father intended to harm his child, just like I doubt AB intended to harm Ms Hutchins.
Yet here we are.
@@BlueDauntlessthat dude didn’t accidentally pull the trigger. He didn’t check the gun, aimed and pulled the trigger at his 9 year old daughter when she walked in the room-calling it gun safety. That’s not the same.
Many who cannot afford bail are held without. True unfair treatment in this justice system. Although, he had less potential to harm another person while out on bail than say, someone like Chad Daybell
I found this prosecutor OBNOXIOUS during Hannah's trial, and as then, this judge is making zero effort to rein her in. I have noticed that she hasn't done her speaking objections like she did in the other trial. I suppose Baldwin's atty made sure that wouldn't happen in this trial. As a juror, her behavior would affect me.
nothing obnoxious about PUTTING THE FACTS STRAIGHT.
peter is being rather manipulative here...
@@geebee3100how is Peter being manipulative?
yes objections and reasons why should be stated and articulated out in the public in front of the jury not as sidebar, as as the the karen Read judge did making rulings on objections for reasons not evident to the jury. If we want justice we cant be handcuffing the jury.
@@geebee3100 except she is testifying instead of eliciting the correct information from the witness on redirect.
It’s dirty.
Huh? There have been MANY speaking objections. The judge even told her “one word” after Carrie went on a rant and the word the judge was seeking is what the objection is (e.g.: objection: hearsay), and Carrie said that and then went into an explanation of why (so it turned into a speaking objection). And the judge didn’t correct THAT 😂
Oooohhhhhh waiting for your next video on the edge of my seat!!
Kari is exhausting. She is not following the rules of the judge.
My eyes saw his mouth saying "I'm going to leave" or "i have to leave" to hos attorney before he walked out
#1 rule for handling a gun is safety. You are responsible for the gun you hold. Period.
Amen!
I am so thankful for your daily wrap ups, Peter. They are so informative and I learn from your expertise.😊😊😊
I have a bit of experience as a background actor/extra working on movie/tv productions with prop guns. Safety is always paramount even with non-firing replica’s and polyurethane firearms. On one production, the role was law enforcement officer, and we were told in no uncertain terms that if we lifted our “weapons” from our holsters, we’d be immediately sent home. I still can’t understand how it would be possible for live ammunition to be loaded into a weapon that was supposed to be a prop. Mind boggling.
And yet read some of the comments here. “It’s a movie, gun safety doesn’t apply.”
Boggles the mind.
I don't care if he checked the gun/ammo, but you never point any gun at a person, let alone pull the trigger.
Hé was supposed to point the gun…THEY WERE MAKING A MOVIE…..this is so ridiculous.
He could have had a faulty gun!
@@GerdaPeterson LOL! No he was absolutely NOT supposed to point the gun at people, cock the hammer and pull the trigger! What are you even talking about...the scene he was REHEARSING did not call for him to do ANY of that...
Obviously in the real world, you don't point a gun and pull the trigger, but they have hired and paid trained professionals to check the gun, check the gun again and give it to him and tell him cold gun. as an actor in a movie, you point the gun and shoot. We have all seen that in thousands of movies. You point and shoot. To me doesn't matter if it's a rehearsal or not. Even if he checked the gun he wouldn't always be expected to know if the bullets are real or fake.thats why they hire people to check it. Otherwise, why have 2 people check the gun first?
@@AcmeRocketexactly
Baldwin walking out TOTAL A-HOLE move. Bad, very bad.
The prosecutor acts like she owns the court. It’s irritating when lawyers act like this.
I am so frustrated with the prosecutor. She sounds so whiny when she objects and it drives me crazy. I wonder if the jurors feel the same way.
Isn’t this the judge who said they couldn’t object without approaching the bench and whispering ? Now the prosecution gets to object like this??
If the judge doesn’t enforce it then they’re going to do it.
They’ve probably never had to object then approach before, so it’s probably part habit.
Morrissey did it during the Hannah Gutierrez trial, which is why she told the lawyers there would be no speaking objections, instead to approach the bench. I don't know why she doesn't put a stop to it.
Baldwin leaving like that seemed rude and he should have waited until a break.
Hes shitting himself?? He is a human being and not a murderer. Is he just supposed to piss himself where he sits ?
Props to trial lawyers for their persistence in battles of all sizes, day after day. Even the ones that are insufferable and exhausting. It's mind melting just being a spectator.
2 things. 1) Since HGR's trial my gut screams that Seth Kenny definitely knows something or is complicit somehow 2) The prosecution and all their witnesses try to protect him. The crime scene tech being cheeky about searching the boxes in the prop house was just really off putting to me. I'm thinking some of the jury will think so as well.
This Morrisey chick is unhinged. Her behavior, courtroom decorum and being so unprofessional. The judge needs to maintain control her courtroom n tell her to stop or else. It's ridiculous & unfair to the defense attorney for her behavior. It's just disgusting 🫣 🤐🙄
I 100% agree with you
Absolutely!! I actually find both sides of the aisle have very valid points in this trial- but YEESH I feel like a bratty teenager intentionally trying to “lalala” every time I hear the lead prosecutor talk. The other prosecutor is SO much more likable and (for me) that makes her so much easier to understand.
Yes ma'am!
Yes, and let’s add to that a hairdon’t that makes her look like she just rolled out of bed. So, she disrespects EVERYONE: the Court, the involved parties, and the public. You can’t comb your hair?
Yes! She is so snarky and acts like she owns the courtroom. I don't think I can handle watching this anymore. My sympathies go out to the members of the jury and anyone who has to stay in that courtroom for the duration of this trial.
At this point, I see the prosecution as overbearing and rude toward the defense attorney. She’s not scoring points but I would definitely focus on the facts and evidence.
Things like this DO happen. I got hurt when a guy next to me had "zoomed-out" and didn't notice he'd loaded a belt of LIVE AMMO in an M60 machinegun, with the Blank Adaptor in place. Fortunately, I was the only person hurt.
Combination of STUPID MISTAKES by 2 guys. The Armorer and the gunner.
I KNEW it was a stupid mistake. Plus, we STILL tease the gunner about it, almost 50 years later.
BUT. What if someone had been killed? They would've court martialed them both. They might have gotten sent to Leavenworth for a while, or other, lesser sentences.
There's a fine line between a negligent mistake and Involuntary Manslaughter.
AND: This firearm is a very high- quality, single- action revolver. That means that before the weapon can be fired, the hammer has to be cocked back by hand until it locks in position. Then the weapon can be fired by pulling the trigger.
THIS MUST BE DONE FOR EVERY SHOT. That's why it's called a SINGLE ACTION.
They DON'T "go off." Since the 1950s- 1960s, firearms of all types have become ALMOST IDIOT-PROOF.
Baldwin is an anti-firearm activist. His understanding of how they function is minimal. STILL, he would've had to FULLY pull the hammer back to its locked position before the weapon could be fired. He no doubt did so, thinking there were nothing but blanks in the cylinder. And frankly, I doubt Baldwin would be able to tell at first glance if it had blanks or live cartridges in it.
I don't LIKE Alec Baldwin as a person. I've been in the same room a few times and he IS a total ass. But regardless, there's Reasonable Doubt.
I have no reasonable doubt. He pointed it at someone and pulled the trigger. I don’t think he did it on purpose, but he should still be accountable.
If he had to go to the bathroom, as some people are saying, he should have told his lawyer to ask for recess. Not just get up and leave the courtroom.
It looks like he told someone he was leaving.
Apparently you've never suffered GI distress....