The price tag to extend the Capital Line LRT south to Ellerslie Road is up more than 20%, frustrating some city councillors. #yegcc #yegtraffic #yegtransit
Tiny in the long term plus putting the brakes on the project only delays future cost increases. Have you ever seen a project get cheaper over time? I don't think so... Just get it done already...
they should learn from china, japan or korea then..... USA, Canada and many european countries are a joke now... you cannot deny the fact. as a white american, i admit that.
"preserve it for later" = costs balloon exponentially. Ever wonder why the New York Subway got built at the turn of the 1900s for dirt cheap and could never be built today? Cause it happened back then. "In the future, cost is going to be higher". Exactly.
Love the Idea but wheelbarrows are a bit slow. Can we invest in an adult tricycle service with a wagon attachment? $100,000 is only like some useless city councillors salary, I'm sure we can scrounge it up!
I am not an expert on Edmonton transportation so others may know better. But I believe it is about 20KM from the closest LRT stop to the airport with no viable place to put stations along the way. No place to pick up additional passengers to gain more fares. It would be a 20KM straight line from the closest stop to the airport meaning no stops along the way so the total number of daily passengers getting on at the closest LRT stop would need to be high enough to justify the cost of the single line. It would probably cost a small fortune in fares or you would need several thousands of daily riders to justify the cost and operation of that single line. It is probably cheaper to run buses, or take a cab or uber.
@@pacman3556 Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. The furthest south station is a round 20km from the airport and the distance between is pretty industrial or newer developments on the very southside of the city. There is a bus that runs to and from the airport ( route 747 it costs 2 bus tickets equivalent to 7$ ) that I think is a very reasonable option for people that need to get to the airport. A few years ago there was a proposal for a High Speed train from Calgary to Edmonton floating around, I had to scoff at that because of the cost vs. potential ridership that you mentioned in the scenario above. I would love if some of these projects went through as I work in a metal fabrication shop that supplied alot of material for the recently opened south-east line here in Edmonton (Davies station looks really cool, Strathearn, grey Nuns, Avonmore, Quarters, Muttart, we started producing the metal for those places almost 2 years before they were open to ride and these projects contribute to my job security but some of the ideas are really not worth the cost in the grand scheme.
in western world, we blame, we are slow, VERY expensive and people oppose you and we are still arguing about a few stations LIGHT RAIL and costs a few BILLIONS and still takes decades to just discuss, NOT building it yet. But in China and many other developed world, which we also deny that they are developed. hahaha, in just a few years, they have completed a top tier UNDERGROUND metro with little to ZERO accidents with high tech finishes. quality of living for the people and also infrastructure is at the top in the world in just a few decades, nevertheless, high speed rail has already been finishing extension to other countries already. meanwhile, we are still debating whether if we should have high speed rail and old gasoline cars which pollutes our world but we still blame other countries for the pollution. Light rail in Edmonton is still on debate and NOT within budget again..... we are worse than a third world country. People may not agree but if they were really to open up their minds and TRAVEL more, they would realize the difference. But i am sure people here wouldn't want to see the reality.... Me, as a white american, I have already woke up from our dreams. edmonton, you can do better than that.
83,000 people take the LRT everyday. I travel back home to visit family in edmonton monthly, if there was an airport LRT I 100% would take that every trip. When I went to UofA the LRT was packed. Students use it all the time. Edmontonians also complain about traffic, but safer public transit with better routes reduces load on roads meaning less need for repairs, less accidents and less traffic. I live in New York now, everyone takes the subway here. NYC has a bit more area than Edmonton but it still takes 30min if I want to uber from one side to the other (same as Edmonton). Because traffic is managable, because of good public transit.
@@brizzo8697 you say climate but montreal + northern europe have harsh climates and good transit. Plenty of people work downtown. Just because it doesn't apply to you, doesn't mean it doesn't apply to everyone. Yes, Edmonton is car centric and most people probably like that, but as a Canadian I'm okay with other people also getting what they want. If some people want better transit, let them have it. Transit expanding is good for pretty much everyone. People say Edmonton is dead, but more walk-ability and transit centred areas create culture. Just like in NYC, just like in Europe. The LRT during the oilers game was alot of fun. Every spots in the city that were super walkable and centered around LRT was fun. We need more of that. We need safer and better transit. We spent billions on new police headquarters and expansion, but do nothing to LRT crimes (and crimes in general) everyone's out the next day. Create safer and better transit, create culture.
I say that's a waste of money. They couldn't build a village community for homelessness!? A jackpot millionaire winner built a village community for homelessness.
homelessness are a choice here in canada, they are addicted to drugs and refuse to work and this is WHY. they can simply get a job and don't get drugs but do you think they can do that? why do we have to work and pay high taxes and still are poor, but those people just get free money for something that is not necessary? you should wake up.
Tiny in the long term plus putting the brakes on the project only delays future cost increases. Have you ever seen a project get cheaper over time? I don't think so... Just get it done already...
All the citizens who been paying taxes. I ask. Just spend the money already. Its needed. The earlier the better.
No.
Build it now! Any form of transportation is a good thing
they should learn from china, japan or korea then..... USA, Canada and many european countries are a joke now... you cannot deny the fact. as a white american, i admit that.
"preserve it for later" = costs balloon exponentially. Ever wonder why the New York Subway got built at the turn of the 1900s for dirt cheap and could never be built today? Cause it happened back then. "In the future, cost is going to be higher". Exactly.
Build it to the airport now! No excuses. It’ll never get cheaper building it later
hahahaha. we dont' have that here in 99% of cities in north america. hahaha.
I've used this train what an asset to have be thankful its being built
30-40 % increase in property taxes to existing tax rate ... Buckle up
LRTs were seen as cheap alternatives to heavy rail but now we are seeing across the country the costs and issues aren't worth it
our LRT costs is so much higher than high speed rail in other countries. so you know why.
Bogus city management, you can not expect anything from this city in a reasonable budget
Sohi is out of control
more dark tunnels to be helpless in!
That’s too much money I’ll buy $100,000 in wheelbarrows and people in Edmonton can cart each other around in them money saved❤
Love the Idea but wheelbarrows are a bit slow. Can we invest in an adult tricycle service with a wagon attachment? $100,000 is only like some useless city councillors salary, I'm sure we can scrounge it up!
save those money for what? for people that are into drugs and give them for free? hahahaha you are funny
No, we’re buying wheelbarrows you silly wiener. Not drugs😢
Never to the Airport thats ridiculous the City is behind schedule for progress and advance.
You know that was just word salad right? I can do that too! Banana yellow brain buzz fruitloop jazz time Thursday Hitachi!
I am not an expert on Edmonton transportation so others may know better. But I believe it is about 20KM from the closest LRT stop to the airport with no viable place to put stations along the way. No place to pick up additional passengers to gain more fares. It would be a 20KM straight line from the closest stop to the airport meaning no stops along the way so the total number of daily passengers getting on at the closest LRT stop would need to be high enough to justify the cost of the single line. It would probably cost a small fortune in fares or you would need several thousands of daily riders to justify the cost and operation of that single line. It is probably cheaper to run buses, or take a cab or uber.
@@pacman3556 Yeah, you hit the nail on the head. The furthest south station is a round 20km from the airport and the distance between is pretty industrial or newer developments on the very southside of the city. There is a bus that runs to and from the airport ( route 747 it costs 2 bus tickets equivalent to 7$ ) that I think is a very reasonable option for people that need to get to the airport. A few years ago there was a proposal for a High Speed train from Calgary to Edmonton floating around, I had to scoff at that because of the cost vs. potential ridership that you mentioned in the scenario above. I would love if some of these projects went through as I work in a metal fabrication shop that supplied alot of material for the recently opened south-east line here in Edmonton (Davies station looks really cool, Strathearn, grey Nuns, Avonmore, Quarters, Muttart, we started producing the metal for those places almost 2 years before they were open to ride and these projects contribute to my job security but some of the ideas are really not worth the cost in the grand scheme.
oh, the west has collapsed long time ago. this is not new to us. but we just refuse to acknowledge it.
in western world, we blame, we are slow, VERY expensive and people oppose you and we are still arguing about a few stations LIGHT RAIL and costs a few BILLIONS and still takes decades to just discuss, NOT building it yet. But in China and many other developed world, which we also deny that they are developed. hahaha, in just a few years, they have completed a top tier UNDERGROUND metro with little to ZERO accidents with high tech finishes. quality of living for the people and also infrastructure is at the top in the world in just a few decades, nevertheless, high speed rail has already been finishing extension to other countries already.
meanwhile, we are still debating whether if we should have high speed rail and old gasoline cars which pollutes our world but we still blame other countries for the pollution.
Light rail in Edmonton is still on debate and NOT within budget again..... we are worse than a third world country. People may not agree but if they were really to open up their minds and TRAVEL more, they would realize the difference. But i am sure people here wouldn't want to see the reality.... Me, as a white american, I have already woke up from our dreams.
edmonton, you can do better than that.
Nobody rides the LRT. Green delusion strikes again
83,000 people take the LRT everyday. I travel back home to visit family in edmonton monthly, if there was an airport LRT I 100% would take that every trip.
When I went to UofA the LRT was packed. Students use it all the time.
Edmontonians also complain about traffic, but safer public transit with better routes reduces load on roads meaning less need for repairs, less accidents and less traffic.
I live in New York now, everyone takes the subway here. NYC has a bit more area than Edmonton but it still takes 30min if I want to uber from one side to the other (same as Edmonton). Because traffic is managable, because of good public transit.
@@yahyak6433 Edmonton will always be a car city because of the climate and the fact nobody works downtown.
@@brizzo8697 you say climate but montreal + northern europe have harsh climates and good transit.
Plenty of people work downtown. Just because it doesn't apply to you, doesn't mean it doesn't apply to everyone. Yes, Edmonton is car centric and most people probably like that, but as a Canadian I'm okay with other people also getting what they want.
If some people want better transit, let them have it.
Transit expanding is good for pretty much everyone. People say Edmonton is dead, but more walk-ability and transit centred areas create culture. Just like in NYC, just like in Europe.
The LRT during the oilers game was alot of fun. Every spots in the city that were super walkable and centered around LRT was fun. We need more of that.
We need safer and better transit. We spent billions on new police headquarters and expansion, but do nothing to LRT crimes (and crimes in general) everyone's out the next day.
Create safer and better transit, create culture.
I say that's a waste of money. They couldn't build a village community for homelessness!? A jackpot millionaire winner built a village community for homelessness.
homelessness are a choice here in canada, they are addicted to drugs and refuse to work and this is WHY. they can simply get a job and don't get drugs but do you think they can do that? why do we have to work and pay high taxes and still are poor, but those people just get free money for something that is not necessary? you should wake up.