ANTIFA and Marduk.... seriously?

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  • @JustinWhangYt
    @JustinWhangYt Před 7 lety +121

    Basically, Marduk is as much pro-nazi as a Call of Duty game.

    • @theworstguitarever1470
      @theworstguitarever1470 Před 6 lety +8

      Even Richtofen betrays the Nazis lol

    • @DankFuneral
      @DankFuneral Před 5 lety

      @@theworstguitarever1470 Group 935 wasn't even a nazi facility. Just so happened to be based in Germany.

  • @runnerjma
    @runnerjma Před 7 lety +143

    I was there at Grizzly Hall to see Marduk and Incantation last night, and the minute I saw those "protesters" with their poorly drawn signs, masks, megaphones, and hypocritical hate rhetoric, I could not stop laughing. Fucking clown shoes, they didn't do a fucking thing and when things seemed to get out of hand, Austin PD and a few friends who happened to be concealed carriers wouldn't allow any stupidity to take place. I commend the venue and the promoters for not allowing these pseudo protesters stop this show, and because of these assholes protesting, it only generated more revenue for the venue, more merch to be bought from bands, and a united front within the Texas metal community, a truly diverse and strong crowd to witness all of this. You do not fuck with Texas metal! Thanks for making this video dude!!

    • @ewq123ify
      @ewq123ify Před 7 lety +7

      don't mess with texas period and good for austin police and your friends who are concealed carriers for stopping that awfulness

    • @ceylinfunderburk6585
      @ceylinfunderburk6585 Před 7 lety +2

      Fuck yea! I can't believe I missed that show....

    • @seananon4893
      @seananon4893 Před 7 lety +3

      I wish I was there, I hope Houston beat a few ANTIFA down in the dirt.

    • @wildbucky
      @wildbucky Před 7 lety +5

      that's probably the best way to handle antifa. as much as I'd like to kick their teeth in or see someone else do it to them, a fight is just what they want. Just laughing at them gets the point across just fine

    • @adamusein
      @adamusein Před 7 lety +2

      Dont underestimate them. They'll come again and do serious harm to property and things.

  • @funeralopolis1337
    @funeralopolis1337 Před 7 lety +32

    I bet these guys would label Sodom as nazis.

  • @darkendless8060
    @darkendless8060 Před 7 lety +38

    2016
    -Destroyer666 incident in Denmark
    -Morbosidad europe tour cancelled by vegans
    -Graveland show in canada cancelled
    The war have started guys.

  • @chandlerbrown3172
    @chandlerbrown3172 Před 7 lety +37

    In the wise words of George Carlin: "pc culture (antifa included) is fascism disguised as manners." It's fine to be against that shit, I'm not a fan of fascism at all, nor am I racist, but just let people think what they want. It's not like neo nazis have any real influence or power anymore anyway. Great vid, everything said was perfect

    • @swagsukeuchiha7599
      @swagsukeuchiha7599 Před 7 lety

      Chandler Brown all these damn ethno-terrorist groups need to go. blm, klan, fascists need to go.

  • @PPGIRL420
    @PPGIRL420 Před 7 lety +15

    Since when did Marduk do ANYTHING that's fascist?

  • @barbaricnomad9302
    @barbaricnomad9302 Před 7 lety +7

    FUCK ANTIFA

  • @MrQuagmire26
    @MrQuagmire26 Před 7 lety +11

    1) Varg is actually not even a nazi, he is just promoting European values and culture. Being proud of our own ancestry is not nazism. He is politically incorrect, but at the same time he is right about the development of Europe we see nowadays.
    2) If the Antifa is so damn sure that Marduk is nazis. All they had to do was to approach the band in a civil manner, they're probably cool enough guys to elaborate and set the facts straight. The media is known to fuck people over and people rely way too much of them as a source of truth.
    3) These antifa wussies are nothing but angry cry babies. Marduk is not the first BM band having WW2 inspired lyrics and song names. And btw, Frontschwein (Front pig) was a less pretty way of describing someone who worked longterm for the nazi front. It's similar to Etappenschwein which was used to describe someone who worked for the front away from danger. Front pig is not exactly a sympathising term for a nazi soldier. In other words, the title of the album is not even nazi supportive.

  • @xXTotalDIsCordXx
    @xXTotalDIsCordXx Před 7 lety +12

    I kinda wanna see an Antifa and Metalhead brawl.

  • @ritualdeathmetal
    @ritualdeathmetal Před 2 lety +6

    So let's talk things straight. A lot of people call Morgan from Marduk as a Nazi sympathiser who is the band's leader and has participated in every album. Back in the day, Marduk's vocalist was Andreas Axelsson (Dread). Specifically on Fuck Me Jesus and Dark Endless. He was the guitar player of Edge Of Sanity. So Edge Of Sanity as you may know have a song called Black Tears. And this song was covered by Heaven Shall Burn (Metalcore band from Germany) who are a 100% left leaning band (according to the Metal Archives they have Anti-fascist lyrics). And as you said, antifa went deep into Incantation's history and label the whole band as a Nazi band even though Craig hasn't been in the band for 20 years. Do you really think that this band would have covered a song by a band whose guitarist sang in a supposed "Nazi sympathiser" band? I don't think so. Anti-fascists feel really strongly about these types of things so even if they didn't know that Dread sang for Marduk, someone may have pointed that out to them and they certainly would have done something about it. Personally I don't give 2 shits about any type of ideologies and I just listen to the goddamn music. I mean I like NSBM beacuse of the music and I can also enjoy old school classic hardcore punk beacuse of the fucking music. So, my advice: Stop being that fucking wimpy and just listen to a goddamn band if you enjoy their music without politics getting in your way.

  • @johnmotherfuckincoltrane1242

    "The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists."-Winston Churchill

  • @TheReturnOED
    @TheReturnOED Před 7 lety +8

    Hail MARDUK most consisting and enduring Black Metal band ever! make albums and tour worldwide!

  • @therealseanthedon
    @therealseanthedon Před 7 lety +14

    "In the future fascists will call themselves anti-fascists" I'm pretty sure Winston Churchill said that. also, we all have to tolerate sjw, PC culture: everything is racist, everything is patriarchy, everything is homophobic, Etc. this nonsense is more destructive and damaging to racial relations than the virtue signal of "racism" they are claiming to "call out".

  • @fitnessandfightingisfun3565

    I love your cd collection by the way

  • @zachmoonlit7845
    @zachmoonlit7845 Před 7 lety +6

    you should put up the link to the petition!!!

  • @clarkkent4080
    @clarkkent4080 Před 7 lety

    What's the name of the album between "d" and "b" on the shelf to his left?

  • @Dragginballs325
    @Dragginballs325 Před 7 lety +15

    I was at the show in Reggie's it was a awesome time the guys in Marduk are really chill.

  • @IAteTheAntiChrist
    @IAteTheAntiChrist Před 7 lety +3

    "go out there and stop it" Thats how this happens....

  • @gardendwellerTX
    @gardendwellerTX Před 7 lety +1

    The very next night Grizzy Hall hosted a Magic Mike show lol

  • @Voidwatcher
    @Voidwatcher Před 7 lety +4

    Marduk has been around since the 90's. First released album was officially in '92. So you were on the mark there! 27 years since they formed.

  • @blobmarlis6180
    @blobmarlis6180 Před 7 lety +1

    didn't that come out three years ago, and they're touring for it now?

  • @grandadmiraldonitz1059
    @grandadmiraldonitz1059 Před 7 lety +13

    Why should anyone, racist or not, be denied essential rights in the US?
    Anti-fa has zero right or justification to prevent American citizens from exercising their right to freely move about and participate in commerce, no matter what opinions they hold.
    Think about what you're saying, Americans that don't necessarily like other races aren't allowed to have rights? What the fuck is that? You care that much about someone's personal preferences, and so little about freedom, that you're willing to forcibly strip them of their rights? That is what thought policing is, that is communism.
    Try not to go down that slippery slope, my friend.

  • @oneeyed569
    @oneeyed569 Před 5 lety +3

    Don't they have 2 WW2 themed albums out of like 20?

  • @scottmetal6664
    @scottmetal6664 Před 7 lety +11

    they should go after Slayer next, they started the whole thing

    • @ducatista695
      @ducatista695 Před 5 lety

      Tom Araya is one of those converted Latino Nazi's.

  • @J_Stamps86
    @J_Stamps86 Před 7 lety +2

    Nice to see you wearing a shirt from a band from my home city of Sheffield! Also, totally agree, big black metal fan and this crap doesn't happen in the UK!

  • @666MalodorousCast666
    @666MalodorousCast666 Před 7 lety

    Love yor videos!

  • @TheTrueMattiMan
    @TheTrueMattiMan Před rokem +2

    antifa is more anti black metal action than antifascist action

  • @TheSolfilm
    @TheSolfilm Před 7 lety +1

    That Triptykon album behind you... you have greetings from Switzerland. In that Marduk story as in a lot of protest stories by SJW is that a little group of poeple that yell so loud may appear as it was a majority. I hope that's not the case 'cause humanity is doomed so.

  • @djynfxxbdhtbrn6854
    @djynfxxbdhtbrn6854 Před 6 lety +1

    Have Antifa ever made a genre-defining Black Metal album? I think the fuck not.

  • @nathanswift3592
    @nathanswift3592 Před 7 lety +1

    Couldn't agree more.

  • @bleakforecast9906
    @bleakforecast9906 Před 7 lety +5

    Thing is,There ARE actual Pro NS Black Metal bands out there. Arghoslent,Grand Belial's Key [who I've seen], Blood Order Company etc. Protest them if you must. Only problem is,They ARE legit NS and fully willing to stand up for it. Seems to me Antifa is picking soft targets who WON'T fight back. That's not accidental,thats deliberate. [bit of a shift in genre] but in England in the early to mid 80's there was a thriving skinhead music scene headlined by Skrewdriver,No Remorse,Brutal Attack,Skullhead etc.[All open nationalists] and the AFA,Searchlight,Anti Nazi League [Orgs. who are basically the British equivalent to antifa] would routinely show up to protest AND routinely get tuned up for doing so! So.....my guess is antifa got tired of getting kicked to fuck by REAL NS and has now opted to bully up on bands who wont stand up for something that they don't actually believe in in the first place,or beating up 50 to 70 year old men who voted for Trump. That seems a lot easier,i guess.

  • @SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG
    @SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG Před 7 lety

    Also I was told that I was giving money to racists by going to Inquisition and Mayhem on Thursday.

  • @latenightmusiczombie2352
    @latenightmusiczombie2352 Před 7 lety +1

    Marduk is playing next Sunday in my area. Too bad I have to work.

  • @greenreptile8649
    @greenreptile8649 Před 4 lety +1

    I live in Austin TX how did no one tell me about this.

  • @shanecarroll164
    @shanecarroll164 Před 7 lety +1

    Antifa has ruined Marduk shows here in Vancouver for a long time. Their last 3 shows here have been cancelled due to Antifa. Same with Death In June.

  • @wolfcult
    @wolfcult Před 7 lety +8

    Dig the video and your wall dude, Revenge/Conqueror flags? good taste :) :)

  • @corendubose6755
    @corendubose6755 Před 7 lety +1

    Marduk is literally a World War 2 band like Truppensturm... Anything related to Scandinavian culture is associated with Nazism, even though you cannot place a one like Oten, in the same light as Hitler, especially if he's the All Father... With such a title, is he the Father of Africans?

  • @ValzRon
    @ValzRon Před 7 lety +1

    Who is next? Sabaton?

  • @austinspitler9177
    @austinspitler9177 Před 7 lety +1

    well said bro. you are on point and I agree with your message in this video.

  • @M310GL
    @M310GL Před 7 lety +2

    For all Antifa out there... please, read Kaczynski, see Thulean Perspective, and stop watching porn!

  • @kuolematonkuolaaja
    @kuolematonkuolaaja Před 7 lety +1

    Totally agree. Thank you for this nice rant, I was so pissed when I read about the gig that got cancelled because of these assholes.

  • @rainerwahnsinn8411
    @rainerwahnsinn8411 Před 5 lety +1

    ,,Smashing your face, crushing your race“
    -Marduk on ,Marduk Panzersivision“

  • @darrylwoodbury
    @darrylwoodbury Před 7 lety +2

    I agree with everything you said.

  • @cursondemon
    @cursondemon Před 7 lety +1

    Saw MARDUK in San Antonio Tx I got the new shirt typicalTexas crowd Fuck yeah MARDUK MUCH SUPPORT BLACK FUCKING METAL !

  • @ratatui66
    @ratatui66 Před 7 lety +1

    Maybe hip hop labels are selling poorly today!

  • @j2kae
    @j2kae Před 7 lety +1

    I recently saw Carnifex with Fallujah and Lorna Shore at Grizzly Hall in Austin. It's a great venue, and it's a shame to hear what's happening. I will continue to support it. Thanks for bringing attention to this.

  • @jameswardo666
    @jameswardo666 Před 7 lety

    you are right Shawn

  • @minion568
    @minion568 Před 7 lety

    and now i hear about another thing that got shut down before. this seriously needs to end. before it continues to get worse and yes it can get worse.

  • @Pontiki1977
    @Pontiki1977 Před 2 lety +2

    Antifa people shouting over black metal artists in general, is beyond ridiculous. But, using the word Antifa to mock every human being that knows what fascism is and chooses to live as an antifascist, is also ridiculous.(not talking about the uploader here, but the world wide trend). I am an antifascist because unlike some people who were raised in countries that never had problems with fascists, i was raised up by two grandmas who saw their villages burned to the ground, plus numerous executions of innocent people by nazi's. Then both my parents lived 7 years under the sadistic military Greek Junta regime of the late 60's. The fascists were torturers and thugs. There is no room for debate here. Portuguese people went through the same shit, Argentinians too, other people faced the same shit while they were living under communist regimes. Our 80 year old neighbor was crippled by that regime. Every town in Greece had victims. No one can call all these crimes a leftist hoax. So i was raised leaning towards the left, but later on i read history of the Communist regimes so i soon left all that behind. I call myself an antifascist leaning to the left because i believe that socialism holds ideas inside that can work in our world. But that needs a lot of reading. Reading about socialism, not the thugs who used it as a weapon. So i would not take time to explain here to people who never read books, why socialistic ideas are not monsters. Unfortunately, every system must exterminate the other people in order to prevail. So only via fascist methods can a system, left or right, win. Thankfully the world has tons of people like me, people who refuse to place themselves inside already created camps, either left or right, so i don't feel an urgency to join any group. (i am not centrist either. They are simply boys who adore and worship anyone who has power inside the system). I listen to black metal since mid 90s, i hold my own ideas for myself and i express them calmly with people who are interested in learning my thoughts. If you are a NS dude who wants dialogue, fine. If you are a communist, fine again. But political discussion, remains discussion. And in my books, discussion means talking calmly and listening with respect. Never liked Marduk much, but i loved and still love Carpathian Forest who had a skeletonized wwII victim as a cover in one of their albums and Tiammat who started as Treblinka, and more than 50 other bands that are def not leftist. Some of them are 100% ultra right wing, or even nazi.
    And still, i never stopped enjoying the music and admiring the art. And no, black metal cannot turn me into a fascist. Hip hop cannot turn my child to a street gangsta thug.
    Only humans who are empty vessels could be transformed by listening to music.
    Peace.

  • @swagsukeuchiha7599
    @swagsukeuchiha7599 Před 7 lety

    the only thing im worried about is klansmen here in Mississippi. idc about black metal with nationalist themes.

  • @edgarsanchez4862
    @edgarsanchez4862 Před 7 lety +1

    100 % agree Sean and this sjw Crap needs to stop

  • @dirkroman1597
    @dirkroman1597 Před 6 lety +1

    best albums of the world:frontswein,warchauw and incantation blm sobs

  • @Iconoclastithon
    @Iconoclastithon Před 7 lety +1

    Personally I am libertarian centrist

  • @nocturne6548
    @nocturne6548 Před 7 lety

    Hej Shawn! Where's that petition? I wanna sign it,!

  • @BlackMetalNomad82
    @BlackMetalNomad82 Před 7 lety

    WELL SAID!

  • @hermanfrodit7442
    @hermanfrodit7442 Před 7 lety

    Never mind. No point on posting to youtube video.

  • @shaolindynasty
    @shaolindynasty Před 7 lety

    Marduk just sings about World War 2. Alot of bands have done that. Nothing new.

  • @ReyExtremeCinema
    @ReyExtremeCinema Před 7 lety

    Well said

  • @infernalmajesty845
    @infernalmajesty845 Před 7 lety

    a slippery slope we are on. hail marduk.

  • @williamzambotti8131
    @williamzambotti8131 Před 7 lety

    so true..every fucking word he spoke...

  • @derreichsminister8210
    @derreichsminister8210 Před 6 lety

    Marduk is trendy Black Metal band. I believe it was their singer who actually did an interview from some snotty looking Jewish kid.

  • @dirtydan5146
    @dirtydan5146 Před 6 lety +1

    I love murduk now :D

  • @SexRobotOfDoom
    @SexRobotOfDoom Před 7 lety +1

    Black Metal Matters?

  • @metalviking82
    @metalviking82 Před 7 lety

    hails

  • @laurac_351
    @laurac_351 Před 6 lety

    We are all racis ,because freedom of speck taken away, we all need freedom I just love metal

  • @captaincrunch413
    @captaincrunch413 Před 7 lety

    dude don't worry about it. Humans will get along.....lolz

  • @PipeofPeril
    @PipeofPeril Před 7 lety

    No German?? Kellner? Ein Schnitzel, Bratkartoffeln und ein Pilsener, bitte. Ich zahle mit Reichsmark !

  • @theaussiepatriot7874
    @theaussiepatriot7874 Před 7 lety +6

    There is nothing wrong with nationalism, racial pride and keeping european for the white european people.
    What I dont like however is white supremacy which is dying out extremely fast.

    • @doveyboy2
      @doveyboy2 Před 6 lety

      That kinda what fascists say lmao bunch of idiots

    • @dropshot5791
      @dropshot5791 Před 2 lety

      Not surprised shit coming out of your smelly mouth. Well, an aussie.

  • @zachlasseter1568
    @zachlasseter1568 Před 6 lety

    I don't think black metal fans give a shit about what antifa thinks. Taake rules

  • @s2lech86
    @s2lech86 Před 7 lety

    come on guys, this guy is so close to 666 likes!

  • @DoubledogDare
    @DoubledogDare Před 7 lety

    Marduk put out like propaganda posters saying they wanted people to kill varg.

  • @zachmoonlit7845
    @zachmoonlit7845 Před 7 lety

    so sad.

  • @emi_fisher
    @emi_fisher Před 5 lety +4

    of course an NSBM nerd hates antifa lmfao

  • @carlooo00s
    @carlooo00s Před 6 lety +1

    fuck antifa

  • @masteryi3747
    @masteryi3747 Před 4 lety

    Im antifa and still fucking love marduk

  • @laurac_351
    @laurac_351 Před 6 lety

    I Am a pagen

  • @dirkroman1597
    @dirkroman1597 Před 6 lety

    i am polichs

  • @j.5126
    @j.5126 Před 6 lety

    Not an N.S. band but more like a gateway drug to N.S. music and ideology. Just like Anglecorpse. ;)

  • @sombhattacharyya
    @sombhattacharyya Před 7 lety

    Fuck AntiFa.

  • @nielsdegroot863
    @nielsdegroot863 Před 7 lety +5

    I am a metalhead and I, for instance, like Disma's music very much. I also agree that bands are free to use WW II / Nazi theme's in their music. Let them do as they please. But, metalheads should stop shrugging their shoulders at metalheads and bands talking fascist/racist/nazi shit. We all know there are a lot of racist/nazi douchebags in metal. Hell, there is even a whole National Socialist subgenre in Balck Metal! Whining about the Anfifa stopping a Black Metal show is pathetic, until we seriously address Nazism in metal. Buying albums of well known metal-douchebags, such as Varg, stating 'you don't care and just love the music' is just pathetically convenient. Let Marduk deal with the antifa themselves and stop supporting nazism by buying albums of well-known nazifucks in metal. Interesting read, here: www.avclub.com/article/metal-music-still-has-unaddressed-nazi-problem-251168

  • @650AFTERHOURSOC
    @650AFTERHOURSOC Před 3 měsíci

    Isn't this the same poser that doesn't like Deicide?

    • @CountBlagorath
      @CountBlagorath  Před 3 měsíci

      Sure is. Guy is such a fucking poser, it's ridiculous! Only a poser would hate Deicide!

  • @Elenuskas
    @Elenuskas Před 7 lety

    100% antifa.
    100% agree with u if Marduk aren't nazis, I really don't know. Again, liberal antifas who try to stop everything without thinking aren't antifa. What is important is that some black metal bands who said that they aren't nazis and played in my city had tons of nazis fans. I really don't care about that, I go for the music. But those nazis always cause problems before the concerts to everyone who is not white. It usually isn't the band's problem if they are against this things, and I want them to play the concert, but nazis are sick and streets aren't safe those nights.

    • @cindydavis4869
      @cindydavis4869 Před 7 lety

      Loving Satan >That's not real Antifa
      Oh we doing this now. This is just like leftist loons cite shit like
      >That's not real socialism
      >That's not real communism
      How about 'THAT'S NOT REAL NAZIS'
      Us normal, rational people are sick of being deemed a fucking Nazi without any evidence just because we oppose Commie scum.
      Fuck off, Antifags. Clock is ticking.

    • @Elenuskas
      @Elenuskas Před 7 lety

      Wow. Antifags. Nothing to say.

    • @ghilliedhu4241
      @ghilliedhu4241 Před 7 lety

      There's tons of nationalist fans in black metal just like there's tons of far left fans on goregrind/punk scene.
      Politics infiltrate everywhere, there's no middle ground.

  • @stevensatanas9406
    @stevensatanas9406 Před 7 lety

    "Panzerfaust by Darkthrone literally has lyrical themes praising Hitler" #AntifaLogic

  • @Vasionz
    @Vasionz Před 6 lety +1

    If a former member of a neo-nazi band works on a project with a ns theme then the connection is fucking obvious

    • @CountBlagorath
      @CountBlagorath  Před 6 lety

      Who's a former member of a NS band and what project has NS themes?

  • @user-bm3ts2ql6s
    @user-bm3ts2ql6s Před 3 lety

    Why do the political beliefs of artists matter anyway? Don't want to listen to NSBM? Don't. Let other people do what they want.

  • @tequilaghoul
    @tequilaghoul Před 3 lety

    you hate antifa, I sub. good shit, man.

  • @XngelAMV
    @XngelAMV Před 7 lety +2

    Marduk is a nsbm band. they even hinted at it and hopes their fans know that they are without them saying it, hoping fans will understand they can't just say it

  • @xvegancommunistx1848
    @xvegancommunistx1848 Před 6 lety

    This is why nobody likes metal anymore

  • @christopherdavis8248
    @christopherdavis8248 Před 7 lety

    sure are a lot of Nazi comments.....

  • @AnalogueHacker
    @AnalogueHacker Před 7 lety +3

    Hey great channel and great video, I'm a strong ANTIFA supporter and a big music fan, I don't know about the USA but where I live in the UK there is a huge problem with far right groups like EDL (English Defence League) and the BNP (British National Party), where I live we have a big refugee community who are constantly attacked and abussed buy people simply for being refugees, I feel sad that you think ALL ANTIFA are sucm, such a generalised and wide sweeping opinion is a shame, I think the problem is ANTIFA isn't actually a organisation, it has no real structure soooooooo any Hooligan can call his or her self ANTIFA and use it as a excuse to justify violence, I'm not a bad person for supporting ANTIFA, neither are my friends, we're not violent and we're certainly NOT scum, and I'm sure not all the ANTIFA in the USA are scum either, just like the majority of Black Metal bands aren't NAZIS...... (",)

    • @stevenlockhart1282
      @stevenlockhart1282 Před 6 lety +2

      fat wreck communism = globalism. Antifa are part of the problem, whether you realise it or not.

    • @rorysullivan5694
      @rorysullivan5694 Před 6 lety +2

      Loki Sigurdsson Europe belongs to nobody. Neither does Africa, Asia the Americas and so on. The Earth is simply on loan to human beings. We will be gone one day and the insects will take over.
      I see bands as theatre. Unless they are openly and sincerely advocating violence and hate. On whatever side of the political or ethnic divide that falls on.
      I'm a man of European descent but I am secure enough to not want to opress others or see myself as superior. Because I am not.

  • @therealseanthedon
    @therealseanthedon Před 7 lety

    "In the future fascists will call themselves anti-fascists" I'm pretty sure Winston Churchill said that. also, we all have to tolerate sjw, PC culture: everything is racist, everything is patriarchy, everything is homophobic, Etc. this nonsense is more destructive and damaging to racial relations than the virtue signal of "racism" they are claiming to "call out".