Classical Composer Reacts to Icarus' Dream Suite, Op. 4 (Yngwie Malmsteen) | The Daily Doug Ep. 122
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In this edition of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to a very fascinating fusion of heavy metal guitar playing and classical/baroque era musical composition. Swedish guitarist Yngwie Malmsteen performs his Icarus' Dream Suite, Op. 4 with the Japanese Philharmonic Orchestra. There's an interesting backstory about this piece and about the Adagio in G Minor by Albinoni (which was the inspiration for this composition).
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Yngwie is the reason I choose to play the drums. 😂
hahahahaha
@@theaterofsouls Best comment ever!!
Drums aren't any easier when you listen to Rush, Tool, Dream Theater, Opeth, Death, Meshuggah, etc.
hilarious
@@jasonallen5318 Or Wintersun and Kai Hahto. czcams.com/video/08_PduSKNWU/video.html
"Less cannot be more. That's impossible. More is more." ~ Yngwei Malmsteen
That's exactly why I hate Malmsteen, like torture to my ears...
@@cristianoviaWhy listen than?? 😂😂
curiosity@@patrickadolfsson4784
@@cristianovia Yngwie is no like Slash out of tune that torture to my teeth and gums. when Yngwie play less or bend his notes always in perfect pitch...
I just love that he's unironically dressed like a character from Castlevania.
Yo, Hol' up. Characters from Castlevania are dressed like him!
Dressed like? I thought he _was_ a character from Castlevania.
@@monsterram6617 the main protagonist too be precise
Yeah, Malmsteen doesn't do irony.
He pre-dates Castlevania, one could argue Castlevanie characters dress like him.
Yngwie Malmsteen was the first guitarist to ever have a custom built guitar by fender, and he was the first one to get them for free. That's how big and influential he was in the 80's.
Not fully accurate
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No, he was the 2nd Official Artist to have a Fender Signature model. Eric Clapton was #1 with Blackie. If you want to get technical, Fender Japan did release several Strats with Yngwie features in the early 80’s but they weren’t official. But TRUE, Fender sent Yngwie many undisclosed number of free Strats. One of them came straight from the box to the Studio and he recorded the Odyssey album with it. He mentions this many times in interviews.
Not even close. Jeff Cook from Alabama had Music Man build custom guitars for him that were given to him as endorsements in 1981.
wtf are you talking about lmaooo
this is the problem with mouth breathing fan boys that don't know a fucking thing but want to "give lessons" or teach or give "facts"
sit tf down.
"first ever"
you probably think the scaled fretting is also his idea lmao
We normally refer to Yngwie’s music as Baroque and Roll
He even has a track called that 🤘
I'm dying of laughter 🤣
Bach and Roll as well!
Love that track lol
ROTFL😂
Yngwie Malmsteen is a guitar god. He would be the first to tell you himself.
I have no problem with his arrogance. He literally is doing what an exceedingly very few can do with the guitar.
😂😂😂
Just don't offer him a doughnut. 😆😆😆
@@antonkovalenko364 he don't like fuckin' donut
@@antonkovalenko364 I get where he was coming from. When you've got people constantly giving you shit about your weight it's annoying. The donut thing was someone being a bully, pretty much.
Some people talk crap about Yngwie, but he is easily one of the greatest guitarists in the world, and one of the all time greats.
He's an easy personality to dislike, but the art just can't be argued with.
Thank myself I never came across nothing about him, except his music. SOAD and RATM will never be the "raw" likable bands for me ever again
He has a beautiful pony ...a one trick pony but it's a lovely little pony😆
@@LeonardoNR They changed their name to Rage On Behalf of the Machine. Not as catchy but it suits them better now.
not
People forget that NO ONE played guitar ANYTHING LIKE Yngwie before Yngwie came along. He literally created a new guitar sound and genre and simultaneously placed himself on top of the guitar virtuoso pyramid in the early 80's. Everyone to this day who plays neo-classical is said to 'sounds like Yngwie'.
You forgot Blackmore. Yngwie evens says it
@donricchio4817 yep, and don't forget Eddy Van Halen, six years before Yngwie's first release
Blackmore and Uli Jon Roth
All Yngwie did was bring classical guitar to the electric guitar. Listen to a classical guitarist playing classical guitar and you'll hear the same caliber of playing.
Yngwie wouldn't know a melody if it bit him on the ass. Just mindlessly shreds scales.
"Tens of people on CZcams can't be wrong" is one hell of a quote.
That's a classic right there!
I was one of them. The next Malmsteen's song should be "Black Star" or "Far Beyond The Sun".
You don’t remember solo has to be one of his most exquisite phrasings especially with the trailing melody at the end to that undulating crescendo that stamps this ballad as a masterpiece of epic proportions!
Dont get me tlking about Fire; Queen in love; Viking; Save our Love; Black Star to name a few!
@@krillinroshi9312 Thanks for reminding
Tens of people on Facebook could be wrong, though. 🤔 😂
"both of those composers are known for writing a whole bunch of notes. "
That tracks 😂
As soon as he said that I started laughing and thinking "Well, not THAT much"
I watched a 1 hour masterclass of Yngwie’s recently here on YT and I mentioned to a friend that Malmsteen has played more notes in that time than I had (or will) in my entire life. 😅
@@ChemXFX Back in the days of VHS I remember counting how many notes he fretted in 10 seconds with super slow mo on a 4 head VCR from a G3 video. It's pretty ridiculous watching his fingers on "fret cam" in slow motion.
Yngwie's vibrato is amazing! Playing on scalloped frets too. The touch on his technique can't be taught. Its Malmsteen! God broke the mold when He made this cat!
His technique is and should be taught. It's one of the main sources how to get into a shredder. Second is Paul Gilbert. If you play fast with a plec you won't get around those two. Check takayoshi ohmura. He uses both guys techniques
If I'm reading you right,.. It sounds you think his vibrato is more amazing because he's playing on a scalloped fretboard. Forgive me if I'm mis-reading you.
I'm not the greatest player but I'm not sure why you might think it's harder got do good vibrato on a scalloped neck. If you play on Jumbo wire and/or scalloped frets, you're less likely to drag your finger tips on the fretboard and in my experience that makes bending and vibrato easier.
@@ffakr I think you misunderstood my expression. Frets, scalloped or not do not effect one’s ability to play with good vibrato. If the strings are lighter, then it is obviously easier to bend the strings. My point was that Malmsteen just has unique sounding vibrato and that he uses it in a unique way as well.
@@chrishuard12 Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I'll still argue that, at least for me, I find vibrato easier with scalloped frets or taller fret wire.
Not only are you less likely to drag skin across the fretboard, but it's also easier to change the string pitch by pressing the string down rather than/in addition to sliding it up and down the fret (granted, this is far more subtle).
I'm sure vibrato technique matters here.. but for me (I tend toward a BB-style twiist of the wrist) the free slide of the string on a tall fret and/or scallop'ed board makes vibrato a lot easier for me.
Think of it this way.. acoustic guitar isn't known as a great platform for wide vibrato.. and acoustics tend to use low to mid height (at the most) fret wire.
Cheers.
On a vaguely related topic..
I picked up a 'project' '67 Gibson acoustic from a lluthier's estate sale a while ago.. and it needs a fret job. I'm SUPER tempted to refret it with jumbo stainless. :-)
@@ffakr No worries mate. I’ve never played on scalloped frets so honestly I wouldn’t know. But either way, vibrato is an essential technique to be a solid guitarist, scalloped or not. Thank you for responding to my comment. It was a while ago. Glad someone is consciousness enough to read, ponder, and give their heartfelt retort, so thank you! Mad respect brother!
I saw him play this piece live in Nashville, April 2016, with Steve Vai, Nuno Bettencourt, Zakk Wylde, & Tosin Abasi. I waited the entire night for Black star and this piece. He closed with both. A master of his instrument.
That's a hell of a lineup
Without Zakk it would have been .
"How can less be more? More is more" -Yngwie
Much too much is just enough.
@@u.v.s.5583 nope, need a lil more
@@u.v.s.5583 Enough is never enough ... 😉
I love that quote!
"I want to be Richie Blackmore " Yngwie.
Remember he’s called Yngwie J Malmsteen. He used the J so he doesn’t get confused with any other Yngwie Malmsteen
Yeah. Yngwie Q Malmsteen almost got famous, fortunately YJM used the J.
haha Straight out of Spinal Tap I think? I dono I remember that though :)
A Tap quote is always worth a thumbs up!!!
It is indeed a quasi-Spinal Tap quote, and I actually know the specific citation. David St. Hubbins (aka Michael McKean) was a guest on the heavy metal Africa charity song "We're Stars," not long after "Do They Know it's Christmas" and "We Are the World," and on the documentary, he made that statement about Yngwie and his all important middle initial. Hilarious stuff.
Yeah the spinal tap guys said this on the We're Stars video
I love how how he is so into the arrangement and not yngwie shredding, then at the end, "And nice playing." lol! As a classical composer he must be used to musicians being able to play their instrument really well!
I thought the same:)
Yngwies tone didn't sit in the mix well IMO. You can't hear the chops.
@@Art-zs6sl he was blasting his Marshalls in that live, refusing to turn down.. if u seen the whole recording u could clearly see some of the jp musicians frowning a bit and frustrating at the volume he was playing at lol
At this level, I would absolutely expect the same thing.
@@user-tt6be2zx3h I can understand them but the specific Marshall Yngwie uses has a different tone when you increase the Master volume. You get some natural compression and the tone is altered in general. Yngwie (and others) prefer that and I guess that he would be thrown off a bit if he couldn't play the way he is used to. There's a different feel to it while playing.
I was a first chair violinist in school and have been a rock/metal guitarist my entire adult life. I just want to say how amazed I am by your ear and ability to instantly pick out keys, chords etc. I never had that ability and it truly blows my mind.
composers' minds are like Pentium chips I swear.
Perfect pitch
My late dad, a violinist in the Vancouver Symphony Orchestra, first heard Yngwie Malmsteen in 1985, when I played him Black Star, from the Rising Force album. His reaction was one of utter shock, in that he couldn’t believe that anyone given to listening to rock/metal would “get” Yngwie’s music. “It’s so esoteric!” he exclaimed! It definitely gave him respect for the genre, at the very least! 😊
very cool!
My dad didn't play an instrument but loved classical and he said something along the same lines.
Black Star is a fantastic piece of music!
Leighton
Thank you for sharing; its great to hear appreciation by true musicians of Malmsteens musicianship and his music!
That's partially why Yngwie got so many hates from basic rock/metal fans.
I seen Yngwie in 1986 open up for ACDC in Toronto . He was 23 years old and Blew the place away . we left the show thinking WTF was that we just seen . haha amazing
Maybe you guys aren't ready for that, but your kids are gonna love it?
Seen him with G3 Steve Vai & Joe Satriani at Massey Hall.
Wow is amazing that u can enjoy him at that age!!! I seen him on 2018/2019 i don't remember the year, i can noticed he didn't practice with band before the show bcos they were a little lost 😄😂 or maybe they did it but Yngwie goes his own way haha anyway he is a legend 🙌 a real Paganini from our time.
I'm 50 years old and an unashamed 80's hair metal guitar player. This came up on my suggested list. I see a man who appears to be around my age and he did not know who Yngwie is. Mind already blown!
I got this concert on DVD years ago, watched it all the way through many times. Yngwie is a beast.
A lot of people are saying "listen to the album version", however... this is actually Icarus' Dream Fanfare, a completely different piece written specifically for his Concerto Suite for Electric Guitar and Orchestra, inspired by and taking motifs from that original piece (which itself takes those pieces from Albinoni's 'Adagio'). Icarus' Dream Suite Op. 4 is an 8 and a half minute non-orchestral piece on his legendary 1984 debut solo album, which was Grammy nominated and well worth listening to. Yngwie is hugely inspired by Baroque composers, and his goal, at least in his early career, was to make his guitar sound like a violin. He wrote the entire Concerto Suite album by playing the parts for every instrument on his guitar for his keyboard player to record (using those instrument samples on his keyboard). He then took the demo to David Rosenthal, who rearranged it as some of the instruments couldn't actually play some of the notes that had been written for them! It was really cool to hear your knowledgeable analysis and to see you enjoying this piece.
Concerto Suite for Electric Guitar and Orchestra is a wonderful album. I love it.
Agree🔥
Thank you for saying what I was going to say. LOL
Yep. I'm not a Malmsteen fan but I absolutely love the Concerto Suite!
Was going to same the same thing but you beat me to it. Only thing to add is the full title of the Album which is: Concerto Suite For Electric Guitar & Orchestra In E Flat Minor Op. 1 - Millenium
I dont get when people says Malmsteen has a lack of emotion in his playing style. His vibrato and phrasing is goddamn beautiful and underrated IMO
Yngwie, is NEVER underrated. Just ask him.
People that say he lacks emotion, lack hearing. They lack emotion and are pretending. Yngwie’s emotion is what separates him from other shredders. His command of the strings is second to none!!
Yngwie is a legend whether people like him or not and his vibrato is one of the best of all time!
Yngwie is honestly a very good player, I personally just don't really like his music too much. A couple of songs at a time work like magic, but after that it gets boring real quick. Nevertheless, Yngve is a legend for a good reason.
Jealousy
He is my favorite guitar player.
I'm not a musician, and I really have no clue about what you were saying. However, it was fun hearing your comments and appreciation.
Thank you.
This piece was beautifully used by The Doors to put a Jim Morrison poem to music long after his death. It can be heard on the album An American Prayer in the song of the same name.
Yngwie's vibrato kills me. It is so dramatic, yet completely musical. Good stuff.
And ALWAYS in tune. Which is not that common in rock music unfortunately.
Keeping in nearly perfect intonation in his outlandish bends approaches super human!
I low key modeled my vibrato after his and Hendrix too. Both are superb. So much flavor.
he is usually compared to shredders.. but he is more melodic than shredder, just not many people can follow that microbendings mixed in subtle vibratos.. I know there's a lot of good players out there, but YJM is someone of a kind
Yup. I think Yngwie's vibrato has always been the best part of his playing. The tonality and intonation are quite remarkable. Frankly, his vibrato is the reason I put up with the sweeps and excessive speed which never particularly appealed to me.
This is what a reaction channel should be.....research, analysis, breakdown....and we all learn something new!
ebsolutli 😄
Hear, hear! Although I must say I find this particular piece of music not that much to my liking (a bit jarring), and don't understand most of the music theory language, it is a lot more interesting than most reactions.
@lhpl Couldn't agree with you more - I have zero knowledge about music theory language but Doug's explanation and analysis have me totally intrigued and wanting more. Never heard of Malmsteen until today when a friend sent me Yngwie Malmsteen - Brothers (Japan Philharmonic Orchestra)and I was immediately curious. So glad to have searched and found this wonderful analysis by Doug - profound new knowledge for me.
As a longtime electric guitar composer … I love you man. Thanks for respecting my heroes as they should be so respected.
I played "Miracle of Life" from War to End All Wars as the second song in my wedding reception. The DJ said it was the first and likely the last time he'd ever be asked to play Malmsteen at a wedding lol
Love him or hate him, absolute perfect technique
What about music
@@gw4434 - he has both, this is great music.
@@gw4434 he’s got some great music in his discography
This is not at all perfect technique. Lots of timing errors, missed notes in runs, you name it.
@@JamesSmith-kv8js - say what you want, his technique is pretty damn good. Keep in mind he's an electric guitarist, very few if any could pull something like this off.
Yngwie is his own category, no one really plays like this. The combination of metal and classical is very cool and unique.
The studio version is completely different to this, and has a section where Yngwie plays a lovely, soulful rendition of the Albinoni melody. It’s well worth checking out Doug.
I very much prefer the studio version over this one anyway.
Yes the studio version has a very different middle section its one of my favorite songs let alone Yngwie songs. Took me EONS to learn to play it on guitar...
@@revylokesh1783 I much prefer most of his studio versions. Live, he gets a bit...self indulgent.
Also, it's AMAZING to think that he recorded that first ground-breaking record in a mobile recording studio, at the age of 18!!...and improvised most of the solos on the spot.....mind blown.
I do prefer the original studio version. It's not an orchestral piece like this, but in my opinion is a more elaborated composition with delicate acoustic guitars and a mindblowing keyboard/hapischord finale that makes me feel like I'm in a fairy tale. I would love to see Doug's reaction to that version as well. Thanks for the good job, @Doug!
I've been listening to Yngwie for close to 40 years. It's hard to believe that people haven't heard of him. But then again, there's definitely musicians that I've never heard of
Been a lifelong fan of Yngwie. So much so that back in high school I did a report on this song & how it pertains to greek mythology with the flight of Icarus. In this song if listened closely yngwie thru his guitar will play to the story. To the point of when Icarus is flying to high and the sun melts his wings, one of the best pieces of guitar work I have ever listened to. And hey my grade for it A. Thank you for this video brings back much great memories
I appreciate the extra effort you make in researching and explaining backstories. These are more than just reactions, its music education. Way more engaging than just watching some guy nod along to a song and saying " wow rhats good" or something.
Couldn't agree more!
Thats the point
I was going to write samething.
I was going to comment the same, I learned something new about this song. I would have liked he use the original song, not this version.
@@hugohn The 1984's original has the actual "Adagio" in it.
Black Star by Yingwie is truly a masterpiece
Absolutely 👍
You don’t remember solo is an epic masterpiece on its own!
Indeed! My all time favorite of his!
Yes yes yes
Whos yingwie?
Fun fact: Yngwie always tunes to Eb open tuning so that makes 100% sense why this would be in that key not Gminor
Plus it's from the album Concerto in E flat Minor, so it might be a title mistake in the video...
He does that because of the long scale of the fender Strat .. it just sounds better in E flat tuning
It would tuned down a half step. Not Eb open. Open Eb would be an open chordal tuning not an interval tuning
The fact that he caught the Eb tells you he's the real deal.
Like the music or not, the composition and performance deserves a lot of respect
30 years ago I started learning to play the guitar. Many of my friends talked a lot of sh!t about Yngwie. I thought he was a monster player. Today, he's still a monster player. I was right. They were wrong. They were haters.
Yngwie was my first concert at 11-12 years old, he opened for AC/DC on the For Those About To Rock tour. I see this dude throwing his guitar 10 feet in the air and then playing a classical run... I was HOOKED and still am.
He’s the reason I started playing guitar back in ‘88. He was THE God of guitars and as a Swedish teenager I was blown away that “we” had such a superstar from our tiny country! 😁
Still have then vinyls with him from that period and this video really moved me!! 😍🎸
Exact same here
Yngwie is a force of nature, for sure. He is his own brand. And like him or not, he plays with a mastery and passion that is uncommon.
Bro Yngwie will run rings around any musician the guy is from another realm 🎯💯‼️❤️🔥
righto yui
Doug. I circled back to this to watch again a couple of years later.
I've been following Malmsteen since the mid-80s when my friend introduced him to me. As a failed guitarist [chose hockey instead. :-)] ... I always admired Yngwie. I was a child that was exposed to classical music by my aunt. It always was soothing to me. Even the intense pieces. I also was a teenage metal head / Now adult metal head. The fusion of Malmsteen's neo-classical style and heavy metal shredding was right in my lane. I was in the merging lane of those two styles of music.
I tried learning instruments in grade school... violin, guitar and cello. I never got it. It wasn't until I got older that I figured out why I was never comfortable playing a stringed instrument. I write lefty, but I'm right dominant. I play all my sports and my power arm is my right arm. Instruments were always set for me to play lefthanded and I just couldn't.
That is OK. I love music, my ears are my instrument. I also love you many reactions. Thanks Doug. I appreciate your analysis. You are awesome dude.
I remember you corrected this with the proper Op. 4. I'm going to find that and listen to that one again too.
Yngwie "harmonic minor" Malmsteen everybody. "Rising Force", when it came out was a game-changer, where many of us guitar players just wanted to throw out our gear. Such a great album. "Far Beyond the Sun" is what I recommend.
The funny thing is, if you play the same tired pentatonic blues licks as the tens of millions of other guitar players keep playing, you're cool, you're a respected guitarist. But if you play four notes from the harmonic minor scale you're forever nothing but an Yngwie clone, although Yngwie uses several modes of harmonic and melodic minor, diminished and much more.
Yngwie Malmsteen was one of the reasons I picked up the guitar. Lol
@@latt.qcd9221 I'm more like Yngwie Malmsteen was one of the reasons I put down the guitar lol.
@@poulwinther Hahaha, sounds actually true!
Malmsteen's guitar is usually tuned down a 1/2 step, so he's got Eb tuning on open strings (Eb-Ab-Db-Gb-Bb-eb). Voila!
Was going to suggest and say this myself.
Beat me to it.
And what makes it better is that the strings (violin, viola, cello, bass, contrabass, etc.) can tune down a 1/2 step as well so they can keep their open tunings. Where it gets to be interesting is that the sheet music would have to change for the woodwinds and brass, as they would effectively be at standard concert pitch.
I'm a guitarist and a concert-trained bassoonist, so I'm stuck when it comes to Malmsteen as to which one I'd want to play!
@@athlonen You can adjust pitch ½ step on Audacity
That's right! Strats sound best in Eb.
Went to the Malmsteen with Joe Lynn Turner, concert in Stockholm in 1988 and was total badass! Rising Force baby!
Absolutely love how you walk us through history before you react. Outstanding! I wish I had a 10th of the musical knowledge Doug has. What an amazing ear.
I've been playing music for 20+ years but I'll never have that boss level ear lol. Doug is God
I stand by this! If Electric Guitar was around when Bach was alive, he would have written dozens of headbanging amazing pieces for it!
Well.to tell you the truth baroque guitar existed at that time , but he showed 0 interest on it: all his " guitar " compositions are for lute....
He would have so written Extreme's 'Play With Me' as per Bill & Ted =D =D
Or Mozart
His music is by default playable on all instruments which is what most musicians have done already. Why would he specifically need an electric guitar?
Please react to Jason Becker "End Of The Beginning" (not the video version). A legend who still compose despite suffering from ALS. His story is heartbreaking. The guy is true living force! ...And a genius!
Marty Friedman recently wrote a song for Jason. I think it's called "Friend" or "to a Friend".
No matter what it was called it was really good.
I made a delivery to Yngwie house back in 2001 I walked in the house and there were guitars everywhere, I asked his wife who’s the rock star thinking I was funny and she said his said my husband is Yngwie as the smile ran away from my face right after she she said please don’t tell anyone where we live and swore me to me secrecy, to many people showed up at their door to get free lessons from him of all people..
He walked after I shook his hand and told him I was fan we spoke for a wile signed a few things and gave me a guitar pick I still have it and He asked me if I played I said NO unless you want a head ache he laughed and I left there after, he was really cool guy and laid back per my experience with him.. he’s a monster on that guitar definitely in the top 10 in today’s guitar God among us today..
I started playing guitar after I watched the promo of Yngwie's I'll See The Light Tonight'' on the Power Hour one Friday night. I was so staggered at his playing I was frozen to the screen for hours just watching him run around playing that solo. It sounded like a virtuoso violinist only cleaner and clearer. I begged my mum for 4 months for a guitar but had to wait until xmas when I got my Encore Strat copy and a 10 watt Gorilla amp with curly lead.
I learned nothing but about 6 chords from a book in 6 months until I found a guitar tutor. Then I wrote and recorded 2 instrumentals within 4 months after that. Both had fast alt picked parts and some sweeping arpeggios in there recorded on a Tascam 4 track recorder.
I practiced to a regime I wrote down and copied Vinnie Moore's section on hw to practice alt picking where he plays 3 note per string patterns and then 4 note per string patterns ect then I copied Paul Gilberts video picking lesson also. I wrote out a regime so the whole thing took about 1 hour to go through and then I would start all over never speeding up if I started to make mistakes. I soon learned it was all muscle memory so why train my brain to play incorrectly.
Yngwie started all this for me and of course over the yrs I played many styles and was in many bands but Yngwie has a huge place in my heart because without his talent going into my ears that night my life would of probably been without a deep love of music. My favorite music is partly classical, partly popular like The Beatles, Queen, Abba, and very much Yngwie J Malmsteen. I have met him twice and he was so happy we struggled to get to talk to him. I still have two of the three picks he gave me, the third one is worn out and just by chance they are the same picks I use anyways (Dunlop 2mm or 1.5mm) only mine are either pink or purple instead of white. I shook his hand and he has humongous hands...lol
Yngwie is the reason I started playing Neoclassical Metal, and is still my biggest influence over 18 years later.
Yngwie tried to emulate and study the classical violin's technique instead of classical guitar.
I highly recommend listening to Black Star by Yngwie.
Malmsteen is far,far above all in this genre.His vibrato and command of the instrument is second to none.
*Jason Becker enters the chat* "Hi guys, are you talking about immaculate vibrato?"
But compositions more than anything.
Yngwie has not only the incredible technical skill, his compositional skills are just as incredible… his first album “Rising Force”…. He writes songs with HOOKS!!! Not just “ a bunch of notes, or scales”!
The amount of micro-mistakes in his playing would be unacceptable for any classically trained musician. UNACCEPTABLE! Please acknowledge this.
@@icipher6730 Becker was only 17 and had better phrasing and technique than Yngwie.
I've always loved Yngwie's ability to incorporate classical with metal, it gives it alot of class and exhibit's alot of culture for the finer thing's in life !!!
Reaction video's are the bane of CZcams atm. They are mostly Patreon cash grabs with bad acting because they really dont appreciate or comprehend what they are watching. So I really do enjoy watching the obvious effort and expertise that you put in to these vids. You seem to be learning and enjoying what you are watching as well as teaching in return. Thanks Doug!
Yup all positive reviews. You get people from the deep south crying to the brilliance of Black Lace.
Yngwie Malmsteen was inspired by none other than Ritchie Blackmoore. Another reason to check out 'STARGAZER', by Blackmoore's legendary band, Rainbow!
Amazing tune! I second this song
See how he glides, why he's lighter than air!!!
Yngwie wasn't inspired by any rock guitarist. He is just in another level, far beyond any rock guitarist's reach.
@@beenay18 Agreed. In comparison, Blackmore is an inferior guitarist who wanted to do the things Yngwie did but never quite measured up.
@@beenay18 Yngwie wasn't inspired by any rock guitarist? This is the most preposterous thing I've heard in a very long time. Know why? Because it was Eddie Van Halen who had either created or popularized the vast majority of guitar techniques that Malmsteen was using from the very beginning of his career. By all accounts, Van Halen's influence on most of 80s and post-80s metal guitar sound, shred guitar in particular, is practically immeasurable.
the release of that FIRST ALBUM of his was like an atomic bomb over previous guitar metal play : destroyed everything. i never get tired of listening to that album after 31 years ( in 1990 i heard it first time)
Yngwie is a huge fan of Paginini and you can hear his influence throughout work. He builds to his flourishes very similarly to the way Paganini does. He also plays with a scalloped neck, making his articulation and feel so subtle and so much more difficult for the rest of us
I saw Yngwie play Edinburgh Playhouse back in the day. One of the best gigs I’ve ever seen! 🔥🤘🏻
His first solo album "Rising Force" contains the studio version and it is lovely and quite different (no orchestra). That album started the neo classical / instrumental metal craze that included Vai, Satriani, Vinnie Moore, Tony MacAlpine etc. It was hugely influential. Every guitar player in the 80s knew that album front to back.
Popularised it, certainly......but I wouldn't call Joe or Steve "Neoclassical" by most standards ;-)
I wish people would acknowledge Uli Jon Roth in the pantheon, early Yng built loads of his style on the shoulders of Paganini and Uli.
I still listen to Moore’s Minds Eye to this day. Great album.
Rising Force is still phenomenal and holds up today, can't get enough of it.
Randy Rhoads pre-dates Yngwie as neoclassical.
McAlpine is noteworthy for his incredible classical piano ability in addition to his guitar prowess. His second alum Maximum Secutity is an all time favorite of mine.
"Far beyond the sun" from this same show...!
I just found this. VERY cool, Paul.
No doubt, Yngwie was ground breaking. As a classical and electric guitarist, he blew me away. Glad to see it translates and resonates with you.
Regarding E flat and A flat:
Jimi Hendrix tuned all his strings (EADGBE) down a half step. He was Yngwie’s first inspiration, at age seven. He said he liked that he smashed the guitar on stage. But I imagine he tuned down to copy those tunes/riffs.
Stevie Ray Vaughan (blues/rock) did the same. He loved and emulated Hendrix, as well.
There are benefits to this 1/2 step drop. Hendrix, for instance, played in R&B bands with horn sections before he hit the rock world.
Another benefit to the 1/2 step drop is that you can use heavier gauge strings and not destroy your hands. Fuller sound. I always figured that and copying Jimi’s tunes were the reason for Yngwie using that tuning. But he uses VERY light gauge strings.
Regardless of the reasons; fact is that the flatted notes are what those players use as a base for their hammer ons and pull offs. And, of course, the general sound, with its sympathetic notes. Does make life a bit more challenging for the orchestra’s string sections, as you said.
I don’t understand theory or notes in relation to each other but your reactions to key points in this piece was validating to me. I don’t feel so alone in being awestruck by his compositions and phrasing. This albums is a gem tethering two worlds to my heart.
This is quite different from Yngwie's original recording, you should give the studio version a listen as well. To put it mildly, he improvises A LOT in his live performances, and in this case even the order's altered.
Edit: btw, his most famous compositions are "Far Beyond the Sun" and "Black Star", if you want to dig further.
cheers!
Got it...thanks.
Far Beyond The Sun is very cool...
@@Doug.Helvering yes, black star and far beyond the sun studio version are incredible. But to be honest those are his hits. I think you will also like Eclipse, Leviathan and Perpetual just to name a few.
@@Doug.Helvering Trilogy Suite - Opus 5 is Yngwie's greatest piece! Black Star is close behind!
That’s Yngwie. Live the songs follow the chord progressions but he does whatever he feels like over them. Of course, usually playing as many notes as humanly possible.
Doug has a very well trained perfect pitch ears. He nailed every note and progression Yngwie played. He understood and appreciated his brilliance. Very often, non musicians are the ones to criticize Yngwie. I'm glad to this day, a lot of people still listen to Yngwie and a lot are discovering him.
Right. Non-musicians and noobs...
@Dok Eddy: Well said. It IS refreshing to actually hear a composer break down Yngwie's work.
My ears are extremely weak and not trained but I love malmsteens music. Its lovely. Im learning guitar
YJM is most a musician than a shredder (even when he shreds). The "band" is called YJM for a reason. Is plenty of subtle in composition and playing just not everyone can hear it.
Young and arrogant YJM put his spirit in his guitar, just like God Jason Becker
@@thejoker-go3fh just feel what the music say to you, do not care what everyone say about one musician. Eventually you will understand the why 👍🙏
Your well-educated perspective on music I've listened to for years is exciting and refreshing to hear Doug. You are correct, Yngwie considers himself a disciple of the Baroque era.
I’ve listened to this songs hundreds, if not thousands of times. I love this break down.
I got to see Yngwie Malmsteen way back in 1985 when hardly anyone knew who he was yet.. Him and Randy Rhodes were my favorite guitarists.. I'm a 51 yr old female
Two of my favorites growing up. I always liked Wolf Hoffman's playing too. He has classical moments. I kinda wish he'd gotten a shot at being Ozzy's guitarist.
Same here, Rose. And I’m 54. I remember the night we saw him in the Baltimore (MD) Arena, Lita Ford was supposed to open.....but she failed to show. So Yngwie walked out on stage with a classical nylon string guitar and KILLED it for about 30 minutes....Jens Johansson joined him on keys, and it was just awesome. We were like, “Lita WHO?”. 😆
.....and THEN, after a short intermission, the entire band hit the stage (with Joe Lynn Turner), and proceeded to scorch our eyebrows off. Just an absolutely incredible show.
@@reddsshaker3477 He was opening up for Triumph on their Thunder seven tour at Buffalo memorial auditorium when I seen them.. Love Jens and Joe Lynn Turner!! Lita is beautiful but her guitar playing never impressed me.. I was too busy trying to play Malmsteen, lol
@@chaddubois8164 Ohh love Accept too!
@@chaddubois8164 Wolf's solo on "Metal Heart" playing Beethoven is one of my favorite solo's
Music is truly one of the most magnificent things we humans have to contribute to this world.
And it is a luxury to be alive in this era where the ability to hear, record and experience musical magic like never before.
Imagine how the greats of old would feel if they would had been given the ability to witness this.
Nothing captivates me as music does.
There is something truly unexplainable about some music, it feels almost like we're tapping into the very fabric of our universe essence.
What a great comment sir
It’s been years since I listen to Yngwine, just want to thank you for posting this. Last seen him in 84, and to realize, as good as he was then , he is today ! Love this ! Keep the great music going ! It is a gift from the gods ! Thanks again!
Yngwie was one of my favourite musicians and guitarists as a kid. I also loved listening to Bach, Andre's Segovia, Chopin, Edvard Grieg etc., the counterpoint, rich harmonies, shifting tonalities, it's just too magnetic. So, so awesome to see another person let themselves be taken aback and captivated by the beauty and emotion of the music. Loved this.
13:55 Gotta love when the shredding is going on and he’s like “oh yeah!! The chord progression! Lovely!”
the video maker can hear so much stuff. knows the key instantly. thats pretty dang impressive
The word masterpiece comes to mind
Sorry friend, he has heard this many MANY times and pretending it's the first time he is hearing it.
Thanks for your channel - I’m a fan of all kinds of music. I love metal especially, and I love classical as well and you do a great job explaining classical music to someone like myself who has little understanding but likes to learn!
Of the 4/5 reaction channels have subscribed to (yours being the most recent) I LOVE how you break down the tunes musically in your reaction and explain what is going on. It's a unique prospective that the other channels do not do. I like the perspective and appreciate that. I will continue to tune in. Oh and your use of the word Y'ALL,; love that too
As a drummer, I enjoy listening to someone who knows what they’re talking about. I can’t understand most of it... but I feel smart hearing you break it down. Keep it up! Best music education on CZcams and I’m sure tens would agree with me!
My father and Yngwie's mother were colleagues. In the 80's she'd let me flick through the first guitar magazines that he was in... I was 10 years old and I couldn't care less.
was he raised by a single mom?
@@BlackpeopleSuck-pi8zf Did your parents have any children that lived?
I saw him and Joe Lynn Turner at a local show in the 80s, wow. I had to go see him play again years later, phenomenal musician to see.
Great fully detailed explanations of the progressions. Well Done. Cheers!
I haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but the Eb-m/ Bb-m choices et al come about from Yngwie detuning his guitar a half step. His fingers are actually playing Em / Bm etc.
Was going to say the same thing
I understand some of the words you say
@@RobMedellin He detuned the guitar a half step.
I was going to mention that... Always tuned down a half step
@@benclark2026 why is that? To make the bends easier? Iomi did the same thing, no?
THIS GAVE ME BUTTERFLIES!
To see a professional classic composer respecting my favorite guitarist of all time totally made my day. I can’t even stop smiling damn!
Well, hello there!
About me: I have 4 degrees in classical music which I attained at the conservatory "Benedetto Marcello" in Venice, ITALY: - Composition, Harpsichord, Classical Guitar, Voice (I'm a baritenor/counter-tenor) and I'm specialized in the Late Baroque era...
I'm also a professional electric-guitar player, as well as bass-guitarist and drummer and I listen to both Baroque Music (just late baroque!) and Progressive-Symphonic Rock, Hard Rock and Heavy Metal.
1st off: Albinoni's adagio was actually in its entirety composed by Remo Giazotto around 1950 based on a few basso-continuo measures that Remo found, but let's get to it...
Here's MY order for the baroque (GREATEST_to_lowest):
1- G.F.Haendel; 2 - J.S.Bach; 3 - D.G.Scarlatti; 4-S.L.Weiss (all the other ones... worthless!)
Here's MY order for progressive-symphonic rock/metal bands:
1 - Queen; 2 - ToTo; 3 - Dream Theater; 4 - Yngwie; 5 - Symphony X (to name a few...)
Yngwie (like many other symphonic-metal guitar players) uses the baroque-pitch, namely A = 415 Hz, although it would be a mistake to say that in the late baroque all composers used that particular pitch: a tuning-fork dating 1740 which belonged to Haendel was slightly higher: 422,5; the most common pitch of organs Bach played were tuned down as low as 409; the venetian pitch (Vivaldi, Albinoni, Caldara) was ranging from 430 to 465 and in France the most common pitch was most likely 392! (that's a G4).
Having said that, you got the keys of this entire concerto wrong: Malmsteen and the Orchestra are tuned down a half-step lower: the real key as written on the score would be E minor and not E-flat like you said! Also, it wouldn't make any sense 'cause in the 18th century nobody were using more than 4 sharps/flats on the clef (or maybe very rarely, like "the well-tempered klavier" where Bach used all 24 major/minor keys).
Furthermore, it's also wrong to say that Yngwie is purely neo-classical:
Late Baroque Era: 1700~1760
Classical Era: 1760~1815
Yngwie's inspiration comes from both eras: from Bach all the way to Paganini
...doesn't look to me like you've done your homework properly Colombo!
Absolutely wonderful analysis and discussion. Appreciate all the time to do a detailed review of a great performance.
Doug and Rick Beato are giving me a whole new appreciation for my favourite musical artists. 😎
The piece you are listening to is Icarus Fanfare from his Concerto for guitar and orchestra released in 1998. It is based a little on Icarus Dream from the Rising Force album and that song is very much different. Very happy you have found Yngwie!
I been playing Lead/Rhythm Guitar for 37 years @10 yrs old being 47yrs. I have put together several Instrumentals myself and Yngwie is to me in the Top 3 Best Ever!!!
As far as Style I Love GEORGE LYNCH his Style in Minors and Flats Are Ferocious..
As Far as YOU sir I enjoy seeing your Reaction to these Greats that have been among us for years.. I Love hearing the knowledge behind what you know about Notes, Sequences, and Composing. Wisdom is a Wonderful thing.
Doug, I've been watching your channel for a few months now. I discovered this video today and noticed it was made on my birthday. It also happens to be my favorite thus far! Cheers.
If I may recommend more Yngwie, try "Trilogy Suite Op.5", "Black Star", "Far beyond the sun", or "Arpeggios from Hell".
I promise you will love every one of them.
I remember being in USSR's Sochi resort in 1990 and we suddenly came to some fashion show, and music was played there were Malmsteen's Trilogy. I was surprised to see a fashion runway walk under this neoclassical metal
It’s so interesting and weird at the same time how you interpret music differently than what we do, I’m Yngwie’s number 1 fan on Spotify as of 2020, and I’ve listened to this song over 70 times, and you broke it down to its tiny pieces in a matter of minutes, I wish I knew theory as half as you do, everything would’ve been so different for me, cheers bud, great stuff!
Thank you for the back story of this song. I am here after listening to Yngwie's Icarus' Dream Suite Op.4, feeling the absolute emotion in it.
Yngwie is the king (and one of the pioneers) of neo-classical metal. Trilogy Suite Op. 5, off of his album “Trilogy”, is a masterpiece.
He's a legend, he influenced so many guitarrists and power/neoclassical/symphonic metal bands with his playstyle. His biggest influences as a musician were Paganini, Bach and Ritchie Blackmore.
It's funny no matter which video you post, it has a cue to "Rainbow - Stargazer". 😁
Don't forget Uli Jon Roth was a huge influence to YJM. Probably more that most think.
@@justinnielsen9766 Uli is severely forgotten when people talk about great guitarists. He was fantastic.
It was performed and recorded in e♭ minor. but in fact, he tuned his guitar down a half step so he could play if in e♮ minor.
Thank you for breaking down what was going on here it really gave me insight into why I possibly like different progressions of music... Love your work
Yngwie Malmsteen is one of the most influential guitarist in the last 40 years
I cant think of one memorable song though
@@stevetobin7495 I can think of many memorable songs. Even if you remove the solos, he has written some great songs.
For example, Rising Force, Like an angel, The seventh sign, Never die and many more.
I get it that his widdling can get old... But it is almost 40 years since he bust on the scene. I think his eclipse album is one of the best albums of songs that I've heard. He really laid back and only melts your face tastefully. Id check that album out. Bedroom eyes is a blues wah solo and it's brilliant. Also devil in disguise. Don't discount him before that. I don't his widdling annoying sometimes but he changed what guitar could be
I much prefer Odyssey to Eclipse. I remember back in the day listening to Eclipse and being enormously disappointed. IMO, Odyssey is a Hard Rock\Heavy Metal classic.
@@stevetobin7495 I can think of dozens. The difference is, I have actually LISTENED to his albums.
When Malmsteen came out first, he blew loads of guitarists away. Spinal Tap were quoted as saying they were going to turn their guitars into coffee tables, now that they’d seen him 🤣
"He had to put a J in there so as not to be confused with the other Yngwie Malmsteens out there!!"..lol.
Classic quote.
GREAT VIDEO!!!!...specially the explanation at the end regarding popular music vs classical. Loved it, thanks!
It was a genuine pleasure hearing this analysis and breakdown from you! I still have my autographed copy of Rising Force from 1984. :)
I haven't understood a word about your talking about chord progressions and stuff yet I'm mesmerized by your knowledge. It's a joy to watch your comments, as usual. You have to react to Yngwie's "Far Beyond The Sun" live from "Trial by Fire - Live in Leningrad" and experience Yngwie's best live performance. Greetings from Turkey.
Yngwie is truly one of the greatest guitarists that ever lived.
If u add Ritchie Blackmore at California jam 1974 yes I’d agree!
I say Jimi Hendrix and Rory Gallagher
Is he "skillful"? Yep
Is it annoying af? Also
Yes! Sin dudas 💪🏻
Includes
Late Eddie Van Halen,
Steve Vai..
I find this fascinating and honestly don’t know about classical music progression but your passion and understanding make me want to learn ! Kudos to you and keep up the great eork I’ll be subscribing and trying to learn more 🙏🏻
Thank you for the breakdown of this music. It helps me a lot.