8th gen VS 9th gen civic si!! What one is better? What fits you better?
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- Today we are looking at the 8th gen civic si and 9th gen civic si. We will be comparing them and seeing what one is better and or fits you better with your personality! Enjoy the video and comment down below what Honda Civic si gen you like the most!!
Chapters
0:00 intro
1:15 Exterior
7:28 Engine
11:56 Interior
17:35 Aftermarket
25:00 8th gen drive
28:26 9th gen drive
32:05 Race - Auta a dopravní prostředky
8th generation is the standard by it which all civics measure themselves... Only one of them won motor trend car of the Year only one of them went North American car of the Year only one of them has an 8500 fuel cut off
no
I think you meant the EK9 Type-R.
There is no category the B series is better than the k20. I say this as the owner two b series cars. The k20 is the best na inline four ever.
You described the 9th gen perfectly imo. I want a new car, going for an SI. But I need it to be a comfy, daily as well. 9th gen has the feel along with the upgrade interior and tech.
Absolutely it does! If you looking for a daily with simple mods, you can’t go wrong with the 9th gen.
@@ProjectRad Along with the "simple mods". I don't care to spend an enormous amount on my car. Just want it to be nice, so spending a good bit rather than a ton. I think the 9th is the perfect point.
Got a 2013 si sedan in march and like the car. Had a 02 Acura rsx in the past. And yeah my si is bone stock lol for now. Awesome Daly car for sure.
@@Strive117 I have an 02 rsx right now!😅
I agree just fyi 9th gen has no temp gauge so you may want to add one at some point
I definitely prefer the 8th gen due to the more raw feel. I'm just naturally more predisposed to like light and raw. Probably why I own a GK5 Fit
I’m the exact same way! Grew up driving race karts. So the more similar my cars are to raw Motorsports feel, the more I like them!
i learned to drive in an 8th gen and i wanna buy one it’s so much fun
2007 si is the reason I got a 2013 si. It was unfortunately not the same BUT I still loved it and still felt like the wheels were trying to escape the rest of the car when rippin thru the gears. Good day or bad day at work that car put a smile on my face going home
Can you get into more detail why you got the 9th gen afterwards? Seems like you liked the first one more? I am currently deciding between the two.
Such a cool conversation and exactly the content that was needed, esp re: heads/blocks/headers
Glad I could help!
Looking at 8-10th gen SIs and noticed you live in the same state. Checked out some videos and love the content! Keep it up
A lot of knowledge in this video new sub here,great content
Orange 9th gen owner here,love it
Im looking at getting a civic and this vid popped up, good timing!
Glad to help out!
9th gen looks perfect to me.
Agreed only thing I don't like about 9th gen is no temp gauge
Yeah the 9th Gen civics really looked as good as the 9th Gen Accords even the coupes in this Gen. And they've done it again with the FL5 perfect
Awesome video bro, the cat needs more screen time lol. I used to own a r18 8th gen. then bought the fa5. I’m super hyped with the performance, but I kinda miss the r18 fuel efficiency tho lol 😂
Nothing beats the 8th gen k20z3 its there where the true vtec roar its function with both intake n exhaust cam! Period!
I bought a 9th gen sedan about a year ago, and I’ve recently started regretting it. I wish I had seen this video beforehand! 😂 The 8th gen suits me more. I love high revving Hondas and I’m pretty low maintenance, meaning I don’t really need all the commodities that the 9th gen interior comes with. Great video man
I really enjoyed this video man, great comparison.
I appreciate it!!
talk more about k24a2 and jdm k24a! keep up the vids bro they’re 🔥🔥
Appreciate it man!! I probably will make a video more in depth about them since my k20z3 is burning more oil then I would like. So a swap is in this channels future!
Just sad Scarlett lost. I know why, but still. Great video. Love both these cars. Great input on both. ❤
I appreciate it!
I love that the commenters can all agree both cars have a place in the hearts of honda lovers. Both cars have pros and cons but at the end of the day the cars are brothers with pretty good performance
I agree! Got a pretty smart and passionate fanbase here!!
the kitten made this video 20x better. great video all around!
The kitten says thanks 😂
I like this guy. Seems very genuine
It's hard to tell, based on your demonstration, considering your driving habits and what grade the road is at... but it sounds like the 9th gen struggles to get up to 7k RPM. The vtec is there, but it's not pushing it like it does with the 8th gen. I find it fun driving the 8th gen up hills with some bends. The LSD paired with 3rd gear at 4.5k-7.5k feels right to me. Great video.
Excellent video!
Great comparison for two outstanding vehicles.
I love them both, but , I’ll stick with my 8th gen.
Unique and much more fun to drive!
Thank you! Agreed! 😁
That’s because you don’t own a 9th gen with the k20z3 head that’s on another level believe me and on top of that add the nicer interior and exterior of the 9th gen plus the new tech you can’t beat it not even the newer civic’s
@@cl587so did you swap the z3 head straight onto your k24? i own a 9th gen
@@cl587 what does the k20 head do? More power? How much more?
I really love my 2012 Si. Almost 500k km and still going strong.
First engine?
@@botgamer_0173 yes! Will have to replace the chain soon i guess..
First off. 18 seconds in and I wanna say. Love the matching chairs hahahahha.
Thanks man😂😂
My daily is an 8th gen si black , I already got the whole front end repainted and the rear repainted. I’m about to finish the doors next summer. Pretty much I brought the car back to life , engine swap will be tsx k24 which is also in route. I would have had it done sooner but I have a GTR and an f80m3 that I’m doing at the same time 😂. But now the 8th gen si gets my attention.
I need my front end done so bad!!
Great video bro ! I always felt like in simpler terms the 8th gen is more racecar and the si for younger people and the 9th gen si is the si for grown ups lol
😂 exactly
They're basically the same exact car with a different engine homie and upgraded interior it took everything about the 8th gen and dolled it down a notch that's why they call it gen 8.5
I bought a 9th gen FB6 , and I also just purchased a FA5 as well. Love both cars but I'm a lil biased to the 9th due to getting 1st and having longer. But there is a noticeable difference in handling and the PowerBand. K24 is perfect for daily driving, k20 is a great weekend car, rev happy, track kind of car
Absolutely agree!
Whats interesting about the 9th gen is the prototype coupe had the same HDMI exhaust the 10th gen has and the 11th gen is back to bland. Honda purposely did what they did in the past to get us into turbo hence the K24 responding better with boost. Even the 10th gen tail lights resemble the 9th gen. Its interesting how Honda fixes something and comes back with it again that is much more improved.
Very interesting take!
8th generation for sure 👍
I love my 2014 SI. The only thing that I would change would be to have the real physical buttons for the volume and all that because they actually don’t have that in the 2014. It’s distracting when you can’t feel a physical button and you’re feeling around to make sure you hit the right part of a touchscreen. I just bought it and it’s 10 years old obviously now and it is a magnificent car. So much fun to drive🎉🎉🎉.
Only thing the 8th came out in a type r version wich makes it nicer when putting some aftermarket parts
This is a great comparison, I drove several 9th gens before I bought my 2011 8th gen. The 9th gen is nice and looks pretty good, but it feels like it has no soul, the 8th gen is the most exciting NA engine I have ever driven. Launching it feels like everything happens so fast making it feel much faster than what it is.
Absolutely agree the 8th gen has so much going on all the time. Dopamine release at all times.
9th is aging nicely while 8th starting to look like it's from 1990. The rear is the nicest design but the front still look ghetto. If you drive the 9th gen into a mall parking lot you would be less ghetto than a boxy 1990 car 8th gen.
@Rumble Bumble the 9th gen looks good, maybe better. It's about the way it drives for me, and I think the 8th gen looks very good as well.
@@Ra47588th gen sedans are looking dated but the 2010/2011 fg2 with the HFP bodykit and wheels will be a the sought after ones that age well.
Nice to see your Channel getting attention, bro 👍 By the way, comparing the 8th gen Si to lower trims (DX, LX, EX,) the audio/speakers are much more premium for the Si trim, which added a subwoofer, better ambient bass, surround sound, etc. I recently upgraded to the FA5 after an LX and its just better in every way except gas 😂
That’s awesome! I do miss gas mileage 😭😂
But it's a hundred percent more fun than the base trims, and that makes it worth it
@@TGerhardt the base 06 5-speed Civic coupe with the stick can hit 60 in 7.7 with it's SOHC 1.8 ... the SI with dohc 2.0 hits 60 in 6.7 seconds it has 11 more pound-feet of torque and 57 more horsepower which equates to just a little over a second quicker to 60 stock which in my opinion is why they made the 2009 r18 models a lot slower after the facelift a little over a second and a half slower is the same 2009 as a 2006 base model r18 after they gave the Civic the facelift which made it uglier and made it slower
@@classybluev1139 oh, didn't know that. I still love the 2009 Si, what's nice is that 8,000 rpm with DOHC and it being a 6 speed. It doesn't have to be fast for me, it's the joy you get out of driving it
@@TGerhardt fuel don't cut off till 8300/8500
on paper the 9th looks "faster" than the 8th.
then the race happens and you realize numbers on paper dont always equate to driving experience.
Exactly! It’s pretty cool!
Great video man
Appreciate it!
Got an 8th gen as a track car. Even stock it’s great.
Got my 2010 Mazda RX-8 Gran Touring wrecked 2 years ago and I ended up getting a 2015 Honda Civic Si Coupe...I used to hate on FWD cars but the Si changed my mind...it handles and drives great, there is understeer since its front wheel drive, but not a lot and suprised how great suspension is tuned stock
I totally agree. Extremely fun and just raw feeling cars with good stock suspension honesty. But really come alive with aftermarket!
8 gen was the rreal sporty sudspension and high revving engine
Came for the comparison, stayed for the cat 11/10
9th gen does look more modern but 8th gen still looks great and feels more old school feeling idk hard to exlain
I really like the 13-15’s but the 2012 even the sedan are little lighter than the coupe 8th gen,I have both but sold the 8th gen I do prefer the 9th gen in all the aspects true most of the things he mentioned but honestly the 12’s is by far my favorite no chrome no nothing like that simple and lighter miss the 8th gen but again both are great probably by personal preference but still way better 12’s I think with a supercharger will be a beast!! Greetings!! ✌🏻
I have a ‘12 SI and am in love! Bought it this year
Same
Same. An absolute joy of a car
You ever drive an ep3? They're fun dude. I have 5th, 7th and 8th gen si. I originally got into one because I wanted an si but on a budget and ended up loving it!
I haven’t. But I’ve really wanted to try one out but sadly no one has given me the opportunity yet.
My 1st ep3 is what made me into a Honda freak it’s simple and fun
awesome collection. I just got a 7th gen 5 speed & 9th gen si. I was thinking of trying out an S2k at some point or possibly an Acura type S. Love the honda/acura world cause our options on manual transmissions.
@@dbzownz12345 my roommate has 2 rsx’s unfortunately she doesn’t drive stick so they are both auto base but what I can say after having the 8th gen as a daily for a little bit is that I enjoy the seating position and the more shallow dash if the rsx. Might be a chance of a type s in the future 👌
@@ProjectRad obviously the one drawback is the 160hp and sad vtec. Being in a band that requires me to haul big speaker cabs and rack units on occasion, having that hatch space is really nice. If you ever find yourself near Buffalo NY Reach out, you could take her for a spin!
2015 9th gen owner its dope :)
Bro got a Canadian hat, and an American flag hanging off his house. I love it.
😂 One if my favorite INDYCAR drivers is the hat. James Hinchcliffe
when I worked for Honda we received the 9th gen Civic
I drove it and compare to the 8th gen it felt soft like the chassis is bending at a corner at low speed
honestly they should have released the prototype version
will I buy a 9th gen Civic? not really
I will buy the ILX instead for the extra
nice video with your commentator!
Once that kitten popped up I was locked in
Always the helper 😂
Do you have a video on painting the grill of the 8th gen black?
I used to have an 8th gen sedan 2010 with flashpro tuned, CAI, and header, straight pipe and now I own a 2014 9th gen with flash pro tuned, full 3” exhaust and CAI and I prefer the 9th gen I moved to Ohio and even here that there’s a bunch of country guys I receive a lot of looks and comments like I like your car or your car looks sick but my car is not stock on the outside either it have coilovers and stance wheels setup but even stock I think looks better than the 8th gen and on the interior is where it shines with those red seats etc… anyways my favorite still the Rsx is too sexy
I had an 07 FA5 for a couple of years and I loved it while I had it, I will say the shifter was SUPER notchy and the syncros were not the best. I just recently got a 2015 FB6 and it is such a different feel, clutch is crazy smooth (almost so smooth that it doesnt feel sporty), and the Vtec is so quiet compared to the 8th gen.
9th gen doesn’t have vtec buddy
@@sandyperez8020 Definitely does, I own a 2015 FB6 SI and it has Vtec on the intake side. Older models have Vtec on the intake and exhaust side. You are thinking of the 10 gen civic that went to turbocharged motors.
@@phantom6799older civic 8th gen?
Picking up a mint 50k mile 9th gen sedan tomorrow. Hard to find a all stock low mile one let alone a 8th gen like that even more. I decided on the 9th gen cause I want something more quiet comfy and refined and probably safer. Definitely not doing coil overs. Going to leave it stock and clean.
I wish you luck! It’s going to be great!
Cough DA cough 😂😂😂 nice video dude
I subscribed because of the kitten.
Cool cars as well.
The kitten appreciates it😂😂
i owned a 14 si and in cali u needa smog so i gotta keep it carb but i got test pipe, cai intake, and exhaust. thats basically all i got for the car. my buddy with the 8th gen got exhaust and intake. we raced and i pulled him on 2nd gear and keep rolling ahead but i did notice the top end on the 8th because he was slowly creeping up behind on 3rd to 4th. but i still took the dub. Moral of the story.... better driver will determine which one wins.
What exhaust you running and are you on a e tune? I’m in cali too and gotta tune if I wanna run not like shit lol
@@nicolasm8615did you upgrade yours I’m in Cali as well. I wanna do Honda flash with cold air
@@mrslapside yea you’re gonna need flash for cai
@@nicolasm8615 cal will I pass smog if reflash back to stock for it? Thanks
@@mrslapside yes as long as you reflash the computer back to stock you’ll be find
I have both and the 9th gen always out runs the 8th gen both are stock right now and the 8th gen is going up for sale just to add more power to the 9th gen since it’s the better car
I had both gens what i can say personally i love the vtec crossover on the 8th gen but tq wise 9th gen for sure n body wise 9th gen for sure but the 8th gen body was definitely satisfying even tho you can get a tsx/accord bottom end but same with 9th gen can use the z7 block with z3 head of course needs modification to work but isnt much but 9th gen coupe facelift all the way it definitely hits different
great vid
Appreciate it!
I had a 2014 si. Fun car and good daily. I now drive 2018 si. Much better in all departments.
Glad you like it! I would like more time with the 10th gen
Great content bro! Just got my 2015 with 11k miles. What coilover kit do you recommend? Thank you I subbed ❤
Thanks man appreciate it! I'll always recommend bc racing like I have on my 8th gen. They're good quality and ride for a steeper price but not crazy crazy. You get what you pay for with car parts. And suspension is something very important.
@@ProjectRad thanks I always hear good things about those to
@@ProjectRad which series? Thanks
@@mrslapside any is good I went br
@@ProjectRad 🙏 thank you
W civic compare , love u homie
Thanks bud!
My 13 has touchscreen gps back up camera and premium sound
KITTY IS SOO CUTEEEE
I have owned both still have my Fb6 miss my Fa5
Grass is always greener
im in Oregon too, been juggling whether to buy the 8th or 9th..
Which one did you get?
That cat is so cute
I've driven both and currently own a 9th gen with a slight tune. It is a great all arounder, but if you want pure ras driving the 8th gen is for sure the way to go (if you can find one)
The eighth generation was the last fun raw high revving Honda Civic
Isntthat an easy fix with a k20 head swap onto the k24 9th gen ?
@@ZZ-ed6wp it's a fix yes but it sure as hell ain't an easy one unless you're a mechanic and I'm sure you'd have to switch out something else
Guess I'm the odd guy but I have the 2012 si I prefer it to the facelift, only thing I've done to it, I did a k20 head swap is a fun daily.
Same i have a 2012 si also prefer it just because not many people have it and its also 300 pounds lighter stock
I have 2013 fb6. I really like the 2012 sedan front. Looking for one to swap on my fb6.
Wish I could say the same, but the wingless trunk just kills it for me. I'm coming up from a 7th gen 5 speed & always had a spoiler so not having one throws me off. Made my choice easy with getting a 15' coupe. Kudos to you for loving it though as there's more 12,13's out there for you to use for purchase/parts.
I have a 9th gen si I fuck with it heavy but would I really have to engine swap it if I’d like to see at least 800+ to 1k horsepower????
I have the 9th gen 2013 Si...wish I went with sedan. Best looking gen
Pretty good looking car for sure!
Don't feel bad. I also got a 15' coupe. It feels personal & sometimes we need that in todays world. Too many people in your shit that all you need is some time for yourself. Bring a coupe & people would rather not hop in & out constantly. Besides I got my coupe for the "lady", not to become an uber drive. I'll buy a cheap 8th gen or fit if that was my goal.
@@dbzownz12345 Engines never die
The 9th gen motor is specifically made for touge running
I can agree to this!
the premium sound is lots better than the stock in the DX value package - the DX had standard stereo, no power locks, no center armrest, no power mirrors - basic basic basic
That’s a rip! Got brand new speakers now!
k24z7 with k20 head makes 240 ish on pump...so
Rear sway bar and bigger end links makes these cars rotate way… easier
I bet it does!!
Just got rid of my 2006 R18 5-speed sedan and picked up a 2006 FG2 Si
5-speed feels like rubber compared to the Si's 6-speed...
The extra 10 ft/lbs of torque is very noticeable. Could be gearing as well, but no comparison.
Love my Si 😊
Biggest difference is 9th gen doesn't have real Vtech, intake valves only... 32:34
Congratulations man!! Have a great time!!
@@ProjectRad Thx brother.
I'm in Ontario Canada but it's a British Columbia car (just North of you) so bonus it's rust free, no accidents (all VIN matching on each panel,) and undercoated.
Fully stock.
Clean Carfax.
Found a gem.
188,000km/114k
$9000 CAD
I lucked out 👍
4piston makes a race head for the z7 now that let's you run k20 cams
I just saw this right after filming and editing this video! And they have z7 drop in cams for preorder right now. But still the options aren’t high.
The SI coupe fits the girls perfectly fine, but the Sedan is AOK for guys.
Currently looking into a 8th gen for my first car any issues I should keep a eye out for
I actually have a complete buyers guide to buying a 8th gen si on my channel that should tell you all you need to know!!
@@ProjectRad k thx I check it out
8th gen best gen
I agree
Ugliest gen 🥲
Any head gasket issues with 9th gen? Also how is the seat comfort for long trips in the eighth GEN? Thanks
No head gasket issues. And it’s perfect!
this aint no subaru!!!
ive never heard of any SI models having headgasket issues. B and K series are rock solid motors. no other company can even compete with honda's NA 4 cyl motors.
I also was concerned I just pick up a 9th gen si coupe coming up from a 7th gen civic. I was like checking everything and super paranoid after my years of living in the 7th gen world.
@@LeeVai666 no they can't
The 9th gen refresh is a much more handsome car IMO. I own an 8h gen Si sedan.
Someone on reddit told me the stock wHP for an 8th gen was around 120. But you said 180. I thought the stock regular HP was 180ish. I have an 08 coupe Si but my paint is trash, im close to 165k miles on it. For someone like me who may never find time and or money to mod the 08 and get it painted do you think I’d enjoy selling it and getting a ‘13 sedan? 97k miles.
120 is way to low I may have said to high but it's probably around 170ish to wheel. At crank it's 197hp and with the 10-15% drive train loss. Definitely not the 120. It's definitely up to you and want you want. If you like the Vtec and high strung nature of the 8th keep it. But if you want torque go 9th.
Personally I own a 9th gen wouldn’t trade it for a 8th gen I just think it looks better
Very cool man! Hope you continue to enjoy it!
The honda civic 2015 is on whole different level, intem of luxury and driving quality and interior,
2015 is another level
I love the cat
Star of the show
Have a chance to buy a really nice 08 si with low miles all stock one owner. Do you think the transmission is that bad that you wouldn’t buy one? I can live with the looks of the 08. But I don’t want to buy it if the transmission is problems. Any insight would be great thanks
And i REALLY enjoyed the video, thank you soo much!
I would take her for a spin or let the guy do it and make sure he or you shift it at high rpm from 2nd to 3rd and if it doesn’t grind I’d say you’ll be ok for a while. Just change your transmission fluid as soon as you can! And have some cash set aside just in case that trans goes. But for super low miles and all stock you should be ok.
@@ProjectRad I really appreciate the feedback thanks. I found a thread on Reddit of maybe ten years years ago were someone was asking basically the same question I asked and supposedly a Honda tech who also owned a 08 si claimed that the issue only affected the first like 1800 cars in 08. So he showed like vin xxx0001- vin xxx1890 or something and said if your last for numbers where anything past this you have an updated 08 and you shouldn’t have the issue. The one I’m looking at is like xxx3840 or something so according to the tech I’m fine. I don’t know if any of this is true it’s just something I found last night. Sweet videos tho!
@@ProjectRad also what fluid or also additive would you use when I change the fluid? The tech said he just uses the correct Honda brand where others had all these different ideas of what to use lol
@@areject17 oh that sounds like a good deal! I’d say you’re ok if you test drive it and see how it is! And for extra protection you could always get the hybrid racing clutch master cylinder they made and braided lines apparently it works well!
The LX coupe was 2654 lbs and at 7.3 to 60 was less been a second slower to 60 than the SI at 6.4
May be true but nowhere close with tuning potential and good transmissions!
What's are your thoughts on the 10th gen si?
I don’t have much experience with it if I’m being honest. It seems fun but not very much like an si and a transmission of glass. But I don’t want to dog on it to much cause I’ve only ever drive one once.
@@ProjectRad you should try a tuned 10th gen si with CAI like to see it on the channel
Don’t think a 2015 came with CarPlay but it’s conflicting for sure
Putting an android headunit in the 8th makes it feel much more modern. I personally have a 7 inch double din
Absolutely! I really do want one for sure! I want to be able to put Hondata on it so I can see what’s going on with my car at all times.
8th generation has a tighter steering rack and better pedal placement is lighter revs higher
My 2007 Vtec goes off at 4700 RPM and I’ve only got an intake and a K-Tuned muffler.
5600
@@douglasbussard3459 mines doesn’t go off at 5600. It goes off at 4700.
love the kitty kat - adds a little something to the video
He’s a little super star on this channel 😂
Even with a k24 having more torque and more horsepower it's still slower 260 than the fastest 9th gen was the 2015 at 6.5 seconds which is slower than the 06 at 6.4
What’s the name of those headlights on the 9th gen?
Honestly don't know. Sorry man
Came for the Civics, stayed for the kitten and knowledgeable host
Appreciate it😂
Subscribed for the kitty.
There wasn’t CarPlay till the 10th gen sir.
Great video. I think your kitty won.
He thinks so too 😂
My 8th gen is named Scarlett as well🤣
That’s great!
Tsx! 😁
Hahaha. The 9 pulls harder than the 8 all day. Owned them both. The 8th is like an LX below 6K rpms
I agree with you there 😂. Not until vtec though. Then the 8 pulls!
The 9th gen looks better especially the 14/15 sedan but the engine in the 8th is better I own a 8th gen it’s so fun and reliable!!! The 8th gen is underrated they make 180 to the wheels which is about 220 hp to the crank
Nah looks way to wonky especially the aftermarket parts 8th gen has so many options