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This Pro WC3 player had an INSANE read - Happy vs Colorful - WC3 - Grubby
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- čas přidán 11. 08. 2023
- Next up in our recent series of cast, let's take a look at Chinese NE player Colorful taking on the best current WC3 player Happy! Watch out for Colorful's insanely efficient management of the Upkeep mechanic!
This Pro WC3 player had an INSANE read (Live on 8-August-2022)
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Grubby could become a full time WC3/Dota caster and I would still watch every video. He’s so knowledgeable and entertaining!!
I feel the same way. The wit and game knowledge alone are enough to keep me entertained for hours
over qualified , but i watch
The fact that Grubby can control his mouse cursor with his hands behind his head proves that he is the GOAT. 🐐♥️
maybe he does it like zlensky does with his piano
The editor didn't remove it xD
Your casts are fantastic, mate. I always watch them. Thanks also to your producer who tips you off about the top games. Cheers.
Loved it.
Your vocabulary, word choice and story tell = icing
Lesson learned from this cast: Grubby never has a problem with his wood.
the game sense on happy to dust at 5:55 is just insane.
You learn from Grubby's games that it's actually pretty obvious spot to place a ward.
Years of experience.. thousand of games.. ability to read patterns..
That has to be the most dominant mass dryads game I have ever seen.
They really shut down those gargs at the end.
@19:59 "While he is struggling with wood, an issue that I personally never have..." 😳Grubby you animal!
7:24 oscar-winning performance
Amazing casting and breakdown of the pro strategy
Thank you Grubby, keep reviewing games, I love you and Happy😊
I heard Grubby gives likes to comments about how well endowed he is. Just something I heard once.
Love the commentary obviously but the in-depth analysis is the best of any caster! Thank you (from one of the few players that still play haha)
18:00 grubby the chad upkeep enjoyer
very nice commentary, especially on expressing the upkeep play! It was a very nice game!
Would be so cool content if you made some tier list. For example rate every hero, and talk about what makes them good or bad. Units, items, races, lots of stuff to hear your opinions on ❤
What you request will be something like a 10-20 hours work for him just for one race perhaps. Match ups in war3 is way more complicated than in dota. Because you have different maps against different races and different heroes. In dota it is way more meta based and easier to break it down for the general players.
Grubby is spitting nonstop facts! true caster talent
been watching and playing warcraft for almost 2 decades and I gotta say your analysis is next level. Not a coincidence you were able to compete at the highest level. keep up the awesome work grubby
Also love the respect you give Happy. I actually always root against him but that's just cuz he's been dominating for so long that I want the underdog to win.
I barely know how to play this game, but I enjoy how you break it down. WC3 for dummies
Love the explanations and the game review.
I am happy to be one of the 7 players that play warcraft 3 and watch your videos :D
Big shoutouts to Grubby's YT editor
Grubby's dry humour kills me, the man could legit be a comedian
awesome commentary :D
love caster grubby content
dayum players nowadays always improving that level of micro is crazy
Love ur casts
Hey Grubby. I Look you singe the begingin From Warcraft 3 . You was for the best Player in the World and i loved your Tower Rush in the Wood . Sry im German for the Bad English. But 20 years and you Play always wc3 your the best ❤
Yes! more casts!
love your casting
So, a Tauren with double slow is just a Tauren doing Taichi.
I think it was not the correct idea of Happy to wait and go for an all in move. Especially the shade was much 2 late. Great game sense by Colourful and going for an expansion. That was the right call. DH with lvl5 was a big threat and pretty tanky. Great hero control of Colourful with the staffing. and always keeping UD heroes mana dry. In the last fight DH tanked with the bears and dryads were just in the right distance to not getting wiped out by gargs. Naga did as well a good job with the lightning forks. Sometimes Happy is too overconfident just relying on his micro. Great macro game by Colourful. A little unlucky at the red spot not to get the drums. Otherwise perfect game of him. From my perspective Colourful is exceptional good in NE mirror bear games. I wouldnt say that he is an all meta player. DH was always his go to hero. Just as Lawliet plays Warden as his trade mark hero in suitable maps. Moon is super flexibel. He tries to outsmart the oponent. KotG, DH, Beastmaster vs Human. But you are right, he is not trying any experimental tactics as Foggy does. From Foggy you can always expect those AP pushes and no regular games. Moon likes his multitasking games. Harassing on the one front, intercepting reinforments on the way, while building multiple expansions all over the map.
EPIC GAME. AS ALWAYS
U are a amazing caster and player 4k.grubby
that BG3 reference on perception
gg. incredible fights
How awesome of a hero can you be when your enemy immediately loses hope at the sight of your transformation.
love ur content
let that sink in!
I know that there are insanely many things to micro, especially versus THE Happy, but I feel Colorful (and many other NEs, except 15sui) didn't spam mana burn enough.
The level of this game is incredible
GENOCIDE O-O
IT'S STILL THERE
I WISH YOU WOULD DO MORE CASTINGG
metamorph believes in life after love
Even Colorful can sometimes beat Happy in the ladder game, the problem is that he has never won Happy in any tournaments and won at most one match like 1:2, 1:3 or 1:4. Sometimes he even couldn not win one single game like 0:2, 0:3 even 0:4.
God I love night elf horns
I personally think Colorful is the absolute best Night Elf player when matched up against Happy. He is arguably double S Tier current day IMO.
I think it's more than 7, cause I still play some times. Warcraft 3 is a rare but fun treat
grubby thanks for the video ....hypot you teleported to warcraft 3 what race you choice and why ?
What were you on, on this one? Anyway as one of the seven appreciate the insight ✋🏻 gg
How do you compare yourself to Colourful Grubby
I’m white
@@FollowGrubbyhahahah
hahahah aaa i forgot the comma ! :D@@FollowGrubby
which one is faster - AoW or a tauren focused by Naga and a dryad?
15:43 editor did not get the note apparently lmao
Yo Grubby. Your editor didn't sensor *that* word. 🤫
Woops, my bad :x
hey grubby big fan since 4k.Grubby ! did you watch happy vs kaho bo5 tp league ?
I don't like Happy's end-game decisions. He hid inside his base to prevent Mana Burn from sapping all of his mana, so he could start the game-deciding battle with full mana on everyone. However, this meant that he surrendered the map to Colorful, who got to expand for free; not just that, but Happy's hero advantage was diluted. Three powerful Undead heroes give you a bigger advantage in a 45 supply army vs. 39 supply army battle, than in a 76 supply army vs. 80 supply army battle; your Death Coils and Frost Novas are less impactful when there are giant armies on both sides.
Happy probably felt impossible to play the long game. A lvl6 DH could take on half of the undead army while none of his 3 heroes could benefit from lvl6. At the time when he attacked the ne expo did nothing yet and it was kind of a weak point because it had only 1 newly built moonwell so Happy possible thought it was his best chance of winning.
For those seven who are still actively playing wc lmaooooo
In that final fight. Grubby should have been fully focusing the dryads not the bears. The bears were useless against that army
I meant happy lol
you guys caught the wood line ? 😂
спасибо за то, что ведёшь ютьюб)
I think Naga was the wrong choice for Happy. Would have loved to see Pitlord with Cleave on those dryads.
Сасха = Sas-ha. It doesn't sound like "Sasha" in Russian =) This is a viewer who is very active in donating money to Happy
the editor did not removed the inapropriate word... XD
15:30 the editor did not remove that word :(
are they actually 7 viewers playing wc3? that's huge
Hi Grubby, a nice way to counter Happy, would be to "steal" dark ranger xD, no coil on her, no silence for him, could be big :)
Need….more….casted…games
Please do more analysis
NOW IM COMPLETE.
You can tell Grubby has been enjoying BG3 when talks about "armor class" in WC3 haha!
Grubby do you think you could take Happy in a BO5 if you practiced hard for a few months and grinded ladder? Would be cool to see another Bo5 against him like what you did a couple of years ago
Would be cool to see but I think happy would win. I've never seen a wc3 player dominate so well.
I almost did it in 2020 or 2021, I was up 2-0 and WINNING the 3rd map IF ONLY I JUST CLOSED THE SURROUND ON THE DK, but I lost, then lost 2-3
@@FollowGrubby I know I recall it was an epic series! Just wondering if you think you’d stand a chance now in the same sort of circumstances or do you think Happy became too strong
UD's army always ready to fight earlier than all other three. Looks like when UD assaults once T3 finished, all other three either not having equal number of units, or still waiting for upgrade. Do u think they should nerf it?
Why is Naga the standard second hero for both races in this match up?
For slow.
Hey I still play wc3. I’m just on a 19 year hiatus right now
Arthas (Death Knight) vs Illidan (Demon Hunter)
Editor didn't censor lol
Guys, not to burst anyone's bubble, but let me enlighten you a bit about this game *from a DIFFERENT point of view,* as I do believe that Grubby is *OVERanalyzing* and *OVERreading* into it...
...for pure Entertainment's and showmanship's sake... :P
...Honestly... to me the game was already decided at 11:10 when Colorful had just killed Happy's Death Knight and Happy was forced to tavern revive.
...In fact... I am amazed at why at this particular moment Colorful *chose TO RUN AWAY* , as he could've easily continued to fight and easily additionally whittle down Happy's remaining forces.
So strange really... ?! O_o
But even so, even *WITH his running away,* he was still VERY ahead and was poised to win the game easily as long as he avoided any major errors.
He made one at 14:15 when he: A) allowed Happy to snatch the WarDrums away from his own grasp. , but ... more importantly...
*...B) he TP'd out prematurely, when in fact, he could have just stood AND FOUGHT... -_-*
Seriously... Happy's DK was like one forked lightning + a few attacks away from dying; meanwhile his two other heroes were out of mana, and he had no units left. Color should have just FOUGHT.
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Regardless, Colorful is *STILL* ahead.
We're getting to 18:00 where Grubby's starting to get into his philosophies about how there was some GRAND strategic manoeuvring and mind-games going on between the two...
*Errr.... NO.*
Nothing of the sort.
Now, to finally summarize -- here's what *THE BEST way* for Colorful to proceed after this 18:00 point would have been:
* Bank up (THAT, *he DID. :)*)
* Retrain DH to just Mana burn + Evasion.
* Don't just stand with army in base. Go out on patrol for occasional pokes on Happy's buildings, trying to bait heroes out of base, *so you can ZAP them with Mana Burn. :P*
* While this distraction is going on, expand at 7 o'clock. *Yes, that's right -- SEVEN O'CLOCK* -- that's happy's 2nd expansion spot. :P
* Occasionally check Marketplace for any potentially useful items. :P
* Research Nature's blessing.
* Get 3/3 upgrades. (THAT, *he DID* , though imho it was unexpectedly SLOW...)
* Once feeling ready, go up to 80+ supply and fight.
* GG. :)
^ Not necessarily in order. OFC you have to improvise on-the-go.
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mate what. colorful did go over upkeep and did cancel that and he did that specifically because he realized happy couldn't attack... that wasn't even a read of the situation that is literally just describing the fact of the matter what happened.
colorful ran away because while there's potential for him to win that fight, it's not a sure thing. naga and lich were both very close to having mana for their spells and that would mean 2-3 dryads instant death.
as you say yourself, he's very far ahead so the EV of continuing the game is much higher than taking a fight that might only be 60-40 or 70-30 in his favour. running away gives him a greater chance of winning the game than staying and fighting.
as for the coil dodge, it would be coil+nova and potentially lightning as it'd be a very difficult thing to check mana of all 3 heros that quickly and again, there was no reason to stay, the creep was dead. Again, running away leaves him in a far more advantaged state than hinging the entire game on a fight.
RTS games are about making decisions that maximize your EV. This means you can't just decide things based on the EV of that thing alone, you have to weigh it against the EV of every other decision you can make. ie. if running away gives you 80-20 odds to win a game, you should run away rather than take a fight you have a 70% chance to win assuming you lose the game if you lose the fight.
You might not think this way as 70-30 feels like a sure shot to win the game, but this concept is drilled into RTS players heads very hard because it informs every single action they make, it's no surprise he ran away there.
can someone please help me figure out why wc3champions isn't working for me:(
the editor missed the 15:30 word
Happy game that is interesting that can only mean Happy losses.
Your editor didn't sensor the 15 min word you asked... maybe you forgot to send it to him/her?
Hi Twitch! Hello Grubby. Did u got demonitised? 😂
Btw the word wasnt censored
What Grubby was completely appropriate, no need for any self-censorship.
However, I understand that fearing the platform owner is real.
It is sad.
11:59 -- but you have *CLARITY POTIONS* and VERY CHEAP-mana hero spells, which is *better than ALL the things listed that you otherwise "DON'T HAVE" ... -_-*
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11:10 -- Colorful running away when he can kill the entirety of Happy's army no problem...
... *WHAT ?! O_o ...*
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Happy economy got dryad out
I beat happy in a ladder match with invisible mortars
SPOILER
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GGmorphosis baby!
14:26 -- it wasn't really a *"LETHAL"* coil... DH would have lived... In fact... Staff of Pres by Colorful was *a MISTAKE* , because it allowed DK to snatch item... :/
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Editor failed
Что за прикол?) У обоих около 15к голды и они в 50 лимита 😂
wait, Happy is the best? i thought you were
He was back then.
1:49 loooool
"The best wc3 player" I have yet to see him win lol. Every video I just see him getting clapped with no chance at all
Wow what buzz kill Happy is, he didn’t even let the final battle play out with demon metamorphis because he was pissed off like a computer nerd. It was such a great game even though you lost doesn’t mean you have to be a bad sport and GG suddenly. It’s fun to fight against demon level 6, bad sportsmanship by Happy, not cool.
in other hand it can be also not sportsman like to play it out when its obvious😂
Yeah, there was no way to recover from Happy's position. Happy had no more destroyers and Colorful had bears with rejuv. There was literally no way Happy would be able to kill any more units.
mate this isn't his first game outside of the campaign, they've both played out these fights tens of thousands of times, the fun comes from outplaying someone, not from watching units kill eachother after the games over.