2022 New Drills: New Drills Electricians Need
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- Those of us in the trades use our tools to make money. And who doesn’t love to see all the new cordless power tools available? In the latest episode of Electrician U, Dustin explains the differences between Milwaukee’s M12 & M18 drill platforms and goes thru some of the features.
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Milwaukee has been making power tools for a very long time and is considered the top tier of both corded and cordless power tools. Through extensive R&D, field testing, and the test of time, their products just keep getting better and better! They offer two different platforms of cordless tools and drills: the M12 and the M18. The biggest difference between the two is the voltage of the tools. The M12 operates via a 12-volt power battery while the M18 uses an 18 volt. This generally results in a stronger drill and longer battery life with the M18, but the tool will be considerably larger and heavier. The M12 platform is designed more for smaller tasks, single tasks where maximum power/longevity isn’t really needed, or tasks where weight/size would hinder the user.
Within each drill platform, there are also several different types of drills. The most common type is the screw-gun. This is in essence a powered screwdriver. There are not a lot of frills and options on this drill it simply either installs screws or removes them. This type of drill is perfect for installing switches, plugs, or any devices as it is small, lightweight, and perfectly suited for the task. The M12 version of this type of drill is small enough and light enough that you would probably not even know it was in your tool pouch!
Another type of drill, that is becoming increasingly more popular, is the impact drill. Unlike a screw-gun type drill, the impact has a slight hammering action when it turns. This results in being able to apply more torque to the work you are performing. There are drill bit sets and bit tip sets that are sold as impact rated, so this type of drill is honestly the first one most of us grab these days. The impact drill will also have speed settings on it as well. 1 moves slower with less impact, while 3 is very fast with more impact. So, make sure to set your speed to the work you are attempting to perform.
A drill/driver is the most common of the types. It is similar to the screw-gun but has many more settings to control speed, depth, and torque. Some types of this drill also have a hammer option on it used to drill through masonry surfaces like concrete, block, tile, etc. It vibrates when it spins which is much more conducive to masonry surface drilling. However, for a cordless drill, it does have limits! So, if you are drilling something large, say a ¾” anchor or super deep, you may want to consider using a rotary hammer drill. The rotary hammer drill is much larger and only drills/hammers in masonry. It doesn’t have options like a drill driver, uses specific bits that only fit in it, and is pretty heavy.
There are several accessories that come with most tools ranging from additional side mounted handles (these are for safety- USE THEM!!), to multi volt battery chargers that will charge both the M12 & M18 batteries, straps, etc. These accessories should be used as they are generally for safety or comfort/ease of use!
Dude, I don't know who does your graphics, but I love them. Your little drill flashlight attic demo literally made me go "Whoa!". From one geek to another, nicely done!
I used a Milwaukee for years. Drilled a lot of holes in sheet metal duct work, turned a lot of Tek screws. It still works today after over 10 years of work. The batteries need replacement, but the drill itself is going to out live me.
Pro tip - that setting with the screw symbol is sensitive to TEK (self-drilling, “self-tapper”) screws. In a nutshell; set your screw, pull the trigger to 100%, impact will do max speed for the drilling part, automatically drop the RPM for the tapping/screwing part, and automatically stop when the screw is in all the way, even though your trigger is still at 100%.
Barely any pressure needs to be applied, and it does wonders when mounting boxes on lighter gauge studs. Not perfect, but basically no blown-out holes and wobbly boxes.
Myself and everyone I show it to are blown away by how tf Milwaukee engineered that into the driver.
But what a pain when it switches to that mode when you don't want it. Lol
@@mostlikelywedoitservices6926
Oh so true, happens waaay too often just by grabbing it
I got clocked in the face and knocked off of a ladder with a full sized corded Hole-Hog while using a 12" hole-saw to put a hole in a soffit back in the day in the 90's. All that torque, all those teeth, my dumb-ass, something had to give... That was the day I learned about 2 things, torque and gravity, LOL. Oh yeah the drill falling on me was also my Isaac Newton moment. :)
That little M12 screwdriver has an astounding amount of torque. I helped a friend fix up a deck and we drove sizeable screws in with no issue at all.
Protip on the drills that I only learnt a year ago. After you tighten the chuck, rotate it the other way a tiny bit until it clicks once and it locks the chuck! No more dropping bits!
M18 for drill and M12 for impact. Climbing ladders all day with the M12 on your belt is so much more comfortable than the M18.
The new M12 drill may change your mind, has a lot, lot more power than the old one.
Your a great guy you speak every day language. I appreciate it you don’t have an inflated ego about being a master electrician.
The only power tool brand that I purchase is Milwaukee. Their tools are so well made and can take an absolute beating. Klein hands tools and Milwaukee power tools is the perfect combination. Thanks again Dustin!
That m12 screwdriver is the jam. What a fantastic tool and dirt cheap. Love how I can set the clutch pretty conservatively and then when it slips I can release the trigger and torque it by hand just by turning the tool. Can't get that level of feel with an impact.
pro tip for drilling out metal boxes with a hole-saw and you don't have that handle: put the box on the ground with your right foot applying pressure right next to where you're drilling. if the hole-saw catches/snags the box won't go spinning bc you're holding it down with your foot and it won't twist your arm off bc your calf will stop it the drill from rotating
I have the M18 drill and when that thing suddenly grabs, it can ruin your wrist. Use the handle and hold firmly! I still get surprised but man that thing has torque!
I have had my wrist damn near broke a few times with my red and yellow drills over the years. I am tempted to buy the new version 4 just for the auto stop, I just got my gen 3 a few months ago
Thanks 2 weeks into the apprentice ship definitely getting this set
Awesome stuff Bud, you have been inspiring me over 3 years in the trade. Keep it up.
P.S.
So 2 tips that I learned somewhat recently when you were talking about the drills/drivers:
1) to actually lock it you have to turn it clockwise a little until you hear a click - that locks it - when you just torque down the chuck/ end that doesn't engage the lock
2) the "Coning" (or the 3 points that come out from inside the chuck) out of the tips as he talked about is SUPER useful say in a situation where you have a hex-headed screw that you don't have a bit for say some weird metric size- what I have done from the past is hold the drill with the 3 points inside the chuck backed off and then grab the screw by holding the chuck and going forward onto the head of the screw until the 3 points are firmly on the screw and then reverse to get that screw out!
I only watched this video to see if he knew that trick with locking the chuck. Very few people I show that to know that. Good on you man.
I've been in the trade 20+ years. I've tried all the major drill brands, yellow, red, and blue... Hands down, Hilti make the best cordless drills. There's no contest. Absolutely worth the extra cost if you want reliability. 20 year warranty. I'm in no way sponsored by Hilti, I just really appreciate the quality and their unparalled customer service.
An excellent brand
I might agree, but it's also eye-poppingly more expensive than most competitors, and you usually can't warranty something if it gets stolen.
Hilti is COMMERCIAL grade. In San Francisco union work/skyscrapers 18yrs ago that's all there was. Cordless HILTI EVERYTHING. Lasers, Drills, Impacts I mean everything........ But it does come with the commercial price tag.
I agree with you. Hilti is awesome.
But a lot of folks in residential won't ever see the Hilti's Drill or impact. Nor will they see their rotary hammer.
They might see the jack hammer or Crete saw out of the corner of their eye.
@@ElectricianU You're probably right, though it's a shame. Connisseur level tools, I suppose. Worth it for those who like nice things, but I wouldn't let the apprentice touch them. Milwaukee is probably the best of the consumer brands right now, then DeWalt. Makita is just slipping down (I keep burning out their best new 18v drills, while the smallest Hilti cordless just laughs at the same jobs).
We all know who the sponsor is. But what do you think about Bosch?. I love you brother thanks for all your hard work.
Most likely, great.
Cordless bosch sucks. Thr corded Roto hammers drills amazing imo and I've tried pretty ever brand Cordless
Bosch Bulldog. Best hammer drill made short of a Hilti.
I believe that 4th setting on the impacts is for self-tapping screws, they spin and then start impacting when enough resistance is present.
Bro it’s a scam! The channel is not Dustin channel!
Milwaukee is really focusing well with the trades.
The screwdriver gun is heavily under rated. Agree hey the screwdriver gun 1st as a 1year apprentice then get a 18v drill I see so many fellow apprentices using the impact and over torquing terminations.
I love the M12 "Screwdriver" for putting in switches. Very adjustable clutch and lightweight.
Does the clutch go low enough for small screws?
Great explanation in short time. Milwaukee should hire you to explain their product line. Can never find anyone in stores who understands their tools.
I'm more in the yellow camp, myself, after being saturated with DeWalt at my last job. They work just as hard at 10,000ft and -30F as they do at sea level and room temperature. I can't say that for the other brands simply because I didn't have them to try. ;-) (For all I know, the other brands are just as reliable at those extreme environments.)
But something that I finally found after a lot of searching when I was in the market for my personal tools and wanting to save a little coin is why have both an impact driver and a hammer-mode drill? It has to do with the different types of impacts. On a hammer-mode drill the impact is axial motion. This makes the tip of the masonry bit act like a cold chisel pounding down in the center of the hole while the spinning clears the chips and turns the chisel to impact in a different orientation. On an impact driver the impact is rotary motion adding a little more umph to the spinning motion. This give a little boost of torque with each impact.
good info! I wondered about this but never looked into it.
Yeah I definitely noticed the difference driving Tapcon anchors with my impact vs my hammer drill that I used to use for both the hole and anchor. Ah and it is so much better having your set of different tools and not having to constantly change bits....
Rotary hammers typically have lower RPMs than hammer drills and most have multiple modes (drilling, hammer drilling and often also non-rotary chipping)
I usually leave the chuck set even when drilling, because as it pops through the back side of an eighth inch steel angle, the drill bit will snag on that last little edge of metal and break.. especially with small bits. I set the chuck to just enough torque for the size drill bit I'm using, and if it catches at the end the chuck will release so i don't break my bit.
I've used Milwaukee for years. I've used M12 for slabs of concrete. I still havey first M12 impact driver. Never use lower torque on any impacts or drill driver. Gotta use finesse. On that trigger. Also have my 1st Milwaukee M18 hammer drill and impact. It's going on 6 or 7 yrs.
Milwaukee tools and Milwaukee pack out all the way. I have the M18 stuff but not the M12. I have a dewalt 12 volt impact and drill. I use the 12 volt to install devices and do smaller work and use the M18 stuff to do larger jobs. The only reason I even have the dewalt is because it was given to me. I always used to just use the Milwaukee. It’s easier to pack the smaller 12 volt dewalt around all day putting in plugs and switches and hanging fixtures than it is the Milwaukee. I could do the same thing with the M12 and I will one day when the dewalt craps out on me 👍. A couple of things I’ve noticed about the Milwaukee drill. The chuck wears out pretty fast if you use it a lot. The teeth quit gripping. And the impact. The bit input will wear out to where the bit wont click into it easily. You have to wiggle it around to make it click in. But that takes a few years of constant use. I still love their tools though.
I broke 1 front tooth from kick back drilling overhead reversing out an extension paddle bit trough multiple studs on a ladder tooth broke off in my lip had to squeeze it out, months later when I got the crown at dentist I seen there is still a shard of tooth In my lip on x ray lol
Dustin ---- check this out.
Do you remember when battery drills first became somewhat common, everyone used Black and Decker 6 volt ? When I became an apprentice in 1986 my boss gave me a small screw gun 7 volt with a wall adaptor transformer that had a wire you plugged into the back of the screw gun handle, a little round male connector. This screw gun had a built in circuit breaker for torque that would trip if it was straining too much and a little yellow button popped out of the handle that you pushed and it reset. This screw gun was "L" shaped but pretty small and cake with Jacob's chucks and it was one solid red colored body. It wasn't Milwaukee though. It was a Makita. They ended up getting sued by Milwaukee because Milwaukee actually has a patent on red power tools so, Makita had to change colors and they went with blue.
I still have that red Makita screw gun. It still works. I lost the original charger way back when. I told a Makita sales rep about it 15 or 20 years ago and he never knew about that tool and said that Makita may want to buy it back for a good amount of money because they were basically disposable because once the battery died they didn't replace them. They were basically the old school paper wrapped NiCad batteries like two AA batteries stacked and two of those in the handle.
The fact that it is red and a Makita is the coolest thing.
Just thought I'd share that.
I got two M12 drills and 5 cases with electronic clatch issues within 3 years. Now both don't work properly on a 1st speed. Looks like they are don't like hard job.
But my M12 impact is awesome! I like it more than M18.
Love Milwaukee and all the task specifc tools for electricians. Cable cutter cable stripper ect.
I'm satisfied with all your knowledge about tools and tips and how to do jobs with professional matters. Thanks for your help. Queens New York ✨️
Thank you for these videos Sr. I just got my ET card and learning all I can
M18 tools come with the dual voltage charger. M12 do not. If I was in marketing for Milwaukee I would immediately start selling the M18 dual chargers with M12 tools also. So easy to get people to buy a different platform if they already have the charger. The screw symbol is for self tapping or sheet metal screws. Starts slower to keep the screw from running
Love the content keep doing what your doing 🤟
I love my m18 for everything, and then use an m12 for the small impact! Anything that can't do, I'll bring out the m18 Gen 3!
You just convinced me that I should get the screw gun. I'm forever using too much torque with the impact driver or futzing with the drill to change the setting just to drive a screw bit in it. It would be great to have another gun just for screws
Excellent content!
This is my new favorite channel!
I'm team Blue. I do love the Packout though!
Team Ryobi? Haha I'm playin
I agree Makitas are the shyt
I’m team blue too. And their newest 40v drill offering is absolutely insanely powerful but also very smart with different settings and the ability to stop itself before it breaks your wrist lol
Blue is kobalt 😂 jk
@@MrDontcareify im a resi electrician with my own business and i can say that my makita 40v hammer drill is far and away the best of the current available drills from any brand i was honestly surprised by how much more productive it made me, the only limiting factor is the quality of the bit being used
Good review. Me of the best I’ve seen. Electricians and Milwaukee gear.
Thanks for another video.
But question, how many firearms do you regularly get to play with? This was easily the first time watching someone going through the motions of a pistol but with a drill
That screw setting on the impact, is not a drilling setting. It helps with selftaps not over tightening. Then also helps prevent stripping a screw or hole. That setting is the weakest of the 4 settings. I use that for delicate fasteners. Put a drill bit on that impact, the screw icon will crap out before the 1-2-3 will. Info you said of it applies to their actual drill, not their impact. Try that setting instead of that useless screwgun :]. My 1-2-3 settting with snap off basic dry wall screws, the screw icon wont.
Glad they’re giving you good stuff bro!
What is that foam organizer in the packout box at the beginning?
dude
u got the new ones awesome!!
those m18/m12 are amazing
is this legit?
No. Electrician U will never contact you like this with a fake text number.
Yep, I had a drill that grabbed in the material once and I wasn't using the auxiliary handle. The drill slung around and slammed into my face. Three stitches in my lip and a half day off work.
Lmao
@@djaztec97 I said, "I wasn't using the auxiliary handle".
I have seen on you tube they use the clutch setting on the drill driver to prevent the drill from wrenching the from your hand when using large bits.
Very handy with janky large hole saw setups.
Fantastic presentation! Thanks!
You can set the torque on that screw gun depending on application.
stay with your battery platform and if you are starting new i advise the FLEX brand!
M12 Surge. It's f'n amazing. Other than that I like the DeWalt 12v & Metabo HPT 18\36V best.
I've always used Makita tools but I always see other contractors and people on CZcams use Milwaukee. I never see Makita. Any thoughts?
So much great information.
Thanks
Whats up pal… have you been using the new gen 4 m18’s on site? If so, how are they holding up? Btw, I knew a friend who has passed away unfortunately who once told he how back in the day he literally knocked himself unconscious due to a drill kicking back on him… he woke up to school soon after 😴 loo
Keep it up man i like these vids
Can you tell me where I can get that pack out for drills, or the insert? Thank you!
27 years in the electrical field. Milwaukee gets it. You can get better, you can get cheaper . You can't get better AND cheaper than Milwaukee in my experience.
Hey I got 4 years in the trade and the only power tool I don't have is a hole hog and I've used my bosses and it sucked compared to my 1/2" hammer drill is it worth spending the $300 for a hole hog when you can make due with the hammer drill
I use both.
Hi Mr. Dustin, can you help me? I need to buy that tools case box, please tell me where can i buy it. Thanks
Could you consider doing a video of how to install the new SPAN Electrical Panel?
my dude, I feel you like you´re saying, "if yoo build aa housse with 12volts, ill fallapart", pretty typical for the north american power tool reviews
Bro make hats that say electrician u and I’m buying every color way. The eu and Ucrew is cool but I want the people to know I’m repping electrician u. Love the content baby keep it up
Like this?
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I like Milwaukee for a lot of different tools but Dewalt is king 👑
I had an epiphany, righty tighty lefty loosey applies to the switch on the side of the drill
thank u.
M12 is so much lighter, but even just an electric 4v screw driver is useful.
Wow did you even read the manuals?
1. The screwdriver is variable speed, not single speed
2. The screw symbol on the impact drivers is self tapping mode. Not drill mode.
That's 4 minutes in. I'll update if there's other stuff.
Wait, you're supposed to read those? Everyone I know throws 'um away... Who knew
Yeah. One time when I was drilling through a top plate up in an attic I was in a corner and I had it in 1 and I was drilling and I hit a nail and it kicked around and somehow the trigger got stuck and the drill wedged itself into the corner and just smoked the motor lol. It sucked though because the drill was gone.
😥
I was in a crawlspace, somehow while I was crawling, I hit the trigger and the auger bit wrapped up in the leg of my shorts, it was so tight I was losing circulation in my damn thigh and the trigger was covered by my shorts so I had a hard time getting to it...was nuts... Not to mention the many many sore wrists that almost broke
@@jarrydee2799 damn man ! Yeah I’ve had some twisted wrist situations as well lol. It sucks. That sucks with your leg too man. That could’ve been really bad but I’m glad you made it out of that 👍
@@gonzomalan yeah man it was a sad day …
rotary hammer drills have low RPMs because you dont need to drill through har materials fast or you dull your bit my rotary is at most half the speed of my smaller drills
Wow wonderful tools bro just wish I could achieve some of those tools it will make my work easyer
I would use the Milwaukee M12 surge for installation, that’s my opinion, if you have not used the M12 surge then you would not know what I’m talking about
Hi, electrician U, am from Nigeria I have been watching CZcams videos
Please how do I get this tool?
And now Dewalt! 😎
All my power tools are Milwaukee and all my hand tools are Klein cool video good job 👏 keep them coming back lol 😂 Awesomeness!!!!!!$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!$$$$&$$
Look into Knipix, Wiha, and Wera as well as Klein. Honestly, my bag has become an amalgamation of manufacturers.
Im thinking about getting all Milwaukee tools but right now I’m dewalt everything
If you’re comfortable with your existing brand, I’d stick with it. As a professional, the feel of your tools is important.
@@rogerpenske2411 thank you bro
ALL THE TOOLS 😀
here to rep the m12 Installation Driver
What's the difference between the impact and the hammer mode on the drill? It sounds like they do the same thing
A hammer mode impacts forward for breaking concrete to create holes. An impact has a clutch the slips and then slams to create the impact and is used for driving fasteners. Hope that makes sense.
@@slolsx so an impact is rotational hammering and the hammer is linear hammering?
if anyone knows does the battery charger work on 230 volts?
Dewalt and Milwaukee are basically the same power tool. In my experience Dewalt is more powerful in general while Milwaukee lasts longer. HOWEVER the pack out stuff and Milwaukee’s hand tools are head and shoulders above Dewalts offerings. People are always confused by my tool bag when I pull up lmao Dewalt power tool homer but all Milwaukee hand tool stuff
Lmao same! My tool kart is all red with Packout brackets all around (see my profile picture). But, when you open the drawer it's Makita power tools with Klein, wiha, knipix hand tools. I actually just picked up some Wera screw drivers. I'm still on the fence with em though.
Is there a video of all the books you have for us to buy?
Outstanding
I prefer hex based bits and drivers, even with a variable chuck.
Those are the new gen too
I recommend everyone get a corded rotary drill with a variable speed drive they call them hole punchers I don’t think I will ever use a cordless for drilling again it is a world of a difference.
The drill is self locking when it clicks at the end then turn it back you will feel it lock
I would never use the 12v driver. Too slow and limited. I run daily with this one. It impacts. Supper control once accustomed to it. The speed is fast. I can put outlet covers all day without cracking one. The tool I swing daily. M12 12V Lithium-Ion Cordless 1/4 in. Hex Impact. It is small and lightweight. It is the size of a screw gun.
Does anyone know if Milwaukee sells just the handle attachment? I set my hammer drill handle down one day and never saw it again 😅
Call up Customer Service. When I was involved in this sort of thing, the CS folks had a bunch of latitude to 'make things right' because a little bit of cost to The Company generates a ton of goodwill from both you and the people that you then brag about the 'special deal that they hooked you up with'. Everyone wins here.
thanks! I'll give it a try soon
I’m gonna be honest here. I didn’t know 1 speed can do that. I knew it was low speed but I been using 2 speed for everything
i started off with makita and now i cant change.Maybe when the batteries die i will
I’m sorry I just don’t trust Milwaukee products anymore I was on this one project we had 3 brand new Milwaukee drills and the chucks stripped out on all of them by the end of the day. They were all set to the correct setting so nobody misused them. Idk if it was a defect in those 3 drills or if it’s a problem with all of them but ever since then I didn’t trust it. Because why pay all that money in a drill just to have it break that easy. Like even though you can return it and get a new one it’s just too much of a hassle
M18 Fuel or nothing.
Correction. If you only want one battery type go with m18. If you have money burning in your pocket then get the 12v as well.
The handle for the drill/driver is great but 9/10 times, you’re drilling in a spot you can’t use the handle lol
These have been tested compared to the older gen 3 and gen 4 Milwaukees are not performing any better then gen 3 just more money.
I use Hilti is better then any brand it's expensive but you pay for what you get
DEWALT makes the BEST Battery Powered Drills on the Market !!!
The hole hog got me like that drilling up through a floor
Replace that chinesium with DeWalt
It’s ok for you to show off