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Congratulations to The Community Gripen Mod Team for creating a wonderful mod, its provided lots of entertainment for myself and the community as a whole, as always keep in mind these missiles are based on publicly available info on the missiles as the actual numbers of the Meteor and the AMRAAM remain classified. Ok thanks for watching guys hope you enjoyed, much love.
Yay new dogfight
JAS 39 Gripen vs J-15 or Su-33 BVR fight please.
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How about a Football War fight between F4U’s and F51 Mustangs?
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The crazy thing about how the Meteor actually performs is that it can literally control throttle, so it would travel towards the target at a certain speed then the idea is that it would accelerate towards the target when it got closer, which is what gives it such a crazy no escape zone
I think the meteor may also have vectored exhaust.
If so …
(1) Self-adjusting throttle +
(2) Ramjet engine (acceleration and useful energy) +
(3) Vectored thrust (super-maneuver)
… equals VERY dangerous. 😳
@@baomao7243 yes, it does, same as the European fox-2s, basically thrust vectoring and throttle control combined
@@baomao7243 the scariest thing about Meteor is TWO WAY datalink ... it can be retargetted, it can be targeted after launch by another mothership ... its not a missile, its a missile shaped DRONE ...
But the great question. Can it make coffee?
Yeah it makes me wonder though… if throttle control is so useful than why does the aim-260 not have it. I heard the US is developing a smaller air to air missile that uses ir and radar to track its target. It would have same range as AMRAAM and meteor but be smaller. It’s called the peregrine you should look it up if your interested in this kind of stuff.
Gripen: How many AMRAAM"s do you have??
F-15: Yes
Yes? But thats discrimination against NO
Nah that's the hornet with 10 amraams
It doesn't matter how many you have when the first Meteor shoots you down.
Gripen E have 10 pylons for weapons 👍🏻
@@MrHistorian123 but it didn't? Lol did you even watch the video?
That F-15 was delivering AMRAAMs like if it was Oprah. Great video as always
"YOU get an AMRAAM, and YOU get an AMRAAM, and YOU get an AMRAAM... you ALL get an AMRAAM!..."
@@angelarch5352 *AMRAAM misses* This enraged his father (F-15), who punished him severely.
@@phantomeggs4315 Ah, yes! An Oversimplified reference...
@@phantomeggs4315 Oversimplified reference? There’s a tax for that.
What's an oprah?
That Gripen cockpit looks fresh from the IKEA assembly line.
@@lurtzy_ Both Saab and IKEA are Swedish, that’s what he meant
Actually, you've gotta put it together yourself and you can't believe how many tiny little parts that thing has.
no.
@@melkerjohansson5100 doyou really think it was funny ?
Cost Per Flight Hours:
Gripen - 7000$
F35 - 42.000$
Purchase Cost Per Aircraft:
Gripen - 45 million
F35 - 180 million
By seeing a BVR engagement you can abstract the relevance of a good MAWS system, it not only provides warning against missiles launched under passive tracking conditions or with lpi techniques but is also able to provide exceptional situational awareness in a BVR engagement, giving the pilot the ideal clues to switch between offensive or defensive postures.
The Meteor missile has the ability to throttle up and down, it’s range is superior to the AMRAAM and it’s more maneuverable. How it’s modeled in DCS well that’s highly subjective based on the fact that true Meteor specs are highly classified. Great vid as always GS.
Agreed. But since energy expenditure by drag is squared that of velocity at high speed flows (M1+), halving the speed (M2,5 instead of M5) will reduce your energy expenditure to a quarter (correction: Energy expeniture to overcome drag is cubed. So energy use is reduced to 1/8). I'm sure that anyone with basic math skills can draw some conclusions from that.
Either way. A missile coming at you at M2,5 with energy to spare is still an extremely lethal missile last time I checked.
How do you know it’s more maneuverable? I’ve heard rumors of the AMRAAM being able to pull 30-40Gs at its most optimal speed, but again that’s just rumors. Isn’t it all classified?
@@collander7766 technically it is, but like the leaks of the challenger 2 armor in war thunder, info finds it's way out.
@@collander7766 me too, not sure about the maneuverability. But meteor surely have better energy control then AMRAAM
@@collander7766 the claimed figures for the missile are published, how much of that is actually true to real world application is of course classified. On paper it's a better missile. The US rejected it as an AMRAAM replacement, but I have a feeling that's because someone closer to home is developing their own version.
I really like how the cockpit of the gripen looks. It's sexy. Also love the little details like the fingerprints on the screen when the sun light hits it at 4:40.
It's a product of brazilian EAL sistems.
@@luizcomet the display for 39E/F is, this is however 39C.
@@AlexKall Looks more like the early 39A? Full color displays on the 39C if I'm not misstaken?
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feels good to know that this gripen in particular is the brazilian version 🤝🏼🇧🇷
and thank you very much, dude, great channel
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 é isso mesmo irmão.
How exactly does DCS model jamming?
Shotgun being sneaky with the jamming blip.
In DCS, the jammers just produce a lot of white noise which confuses the radars, and they get less effective at closer ranges
Strange modeling. You can't jam a modern missile this way.
As Gripen will send midair updates to the Meteor and IRIS-T. Gripen has very directional and very jam-proof updates to both missiles and other Gripens.
You need to jam both the aircraft and the missile continuously with more power than a focused directional link (not going to happen unless you stand in the direct beam way).
Some "Jam blipping" ain't going to do squat.
@@christianm1533 exactly, I wish it's modelled more properly
@@Odysseuss. : It's very hard to jam any kind of directional link. As updates can be unidirectional (Gripen is fully bidirectional) it really does not matter that the Gripen is has energy incoming in form of RX to do TX updates. It's not going to affect the Meteor information unless you jam both. Gripen can carry atleast ASRAAM (defunct), MICA, AIM-9l/p/x and IRIS-T on the tip rails AFAIK.
@@christianm1533 As far as I know the AA version of the IRIS-T has no datalink as it is an IR missile and will either track immediately or not at all. How then will it receive midair updates? Are you mistaking it with the IRIS-T SL (surface launched) version, which is using a radar seeker and has a datalink for updates from the ground radar?
The fingerprints on the Grippen touch screens, that are visible in the sun glare are driving me nuts. I want to take a cloth an wipe them :D
During Red Flag 2013 the Swedish Air Force participated with a single digit squadron of Gripens, flying for Red Air. That is, playing OpFor. During that exercise the only aircraft with a higher kill/loss ratio Than the 39C/D unit was the F-22. This they achieved while flying against Blue Forces.
I'd believe it!
F-35 stomps all over it and has a substantially higher kill ratio
@@weasle2904 As it should, on the budget it was developed. The 39C and 39E are excellent fighters at a fraction of the cost. Also a world apart when it comes to maintaining mission readiness.
was at the edge of my seat for this engagement. caught myself yelling out sh*t twice for that close 900ft near miss, then when that meteor changed direction on the f-15's recommit and sudden hit. was very entertaining. reinstalling dcs now...
The Meteor can control its speed and fuel comsumption. It means that it can slow down it's engine to economize fuel or to have more time to maneuver into the target, it can save its fuel to use its engine in final maneuvers to hit the target. Meaning that it doesnt rely only in its kinect energy like other misiles, that wastes all its fuel and after goes with no energy to pursuit the bandit. It performs MUCH better than a AIM-120.
Slowing down the missile isn't something they're going to use against a fighter, once you lose that energy it's not coming back. The slower the missile goes the easier it is to defeat, plain and simple, it doesn't matter how much fuel it still has. forcing the missile to pull Gs is going to bleed energy. The thing that makes the Meteor dangerous for fighters is the speed, not the theorical range, not it's fuel efficiency.
When they talk about these missiles having a massive 300 mile range it's exactly like the Aim-54, you're not going to hit a fast moving fighter at 300 miles, you might be able to hit a bomber, or a tanker. The Meteor should be quite a bit more lethal at lets say. 40-50 miles than an Aim-120, just because of how fast it is. It's still going to be fast if the enemy is defending hard, trying to to slow it down.
So the missle knows where it is?
@@MrFarnanonical I mean, it can slow down its fuel consumption, its engine, not meaning that it will drop its speed consistly, like when its going down. i corrected it.
The modelling on the Meteor is strange. The is only a slim chance that the F-15 would survive any of these within a 50 mile radius coming from high altitude. The no escape zone is about 30 miles, all altitudes, as the missile will fight drag less on low altitude by controlling the burn.
The low altitude difference between the AMRAAM and the Meteor is even greater than the high altitude one.
@@christianm1533 yeah, this is pretty impressive.
I always love the BVR fights and the video quality was excellent, I can really tell how much effort you've been putting in and how much the new hardware is helping.
Keep up the great work!
Hey GS! That Meteor closure shot from the F-15's 'chase cam' was some of the coolest shit I've ever seen on CZcams!! It still made me jump even though I knew an impact was imminent 😂
Thanks for noting that the missile characteristics are based on public info - I think it's still plenty entertaining to theorize and use DCS as a tool when it comes to BVR combat, while protecting our guys and gals in the sky
Just don’t become a WarThunder player and disclose classified information on your countries equipment to win an argument.
@@dragoonTT The players from all sides probably revealed more tank related info then intelligence agencies from all over the world did.
Some of the photos of armor and armor composition were a complete unknown until some frustrated players posted them on those forum pages.
Gripen is on goodlookin airplane, at least my eyes like it alot. You should try em really against different Russian planes. Saab always announces that "What comes to Sukhois, E/F models are made most spesific against Sukhois. In that we have a black belt". Well those are commercials ofc that was alot on the airshows etc, when here in Finland new fighter type was about to be selected. Actually the pair that got to "finals" were F-35 and Gripen. F-35 won, somehow cost of usage / milage / Finnish defence politics that got f-35 points high. At the times f-35 was still banging head, with its problems, Gripen was long favorite for many pilots. It is very capable fighter, and BTW Meteor is a missile that has shown alot of interest in USAF also. If and when it is going to work as intented, it really will be very hot in markets. What is really problem for many ppl with Gripen is lack of real combat experience, though they were in Libya in NATO/US Air dominance coalition. But if I remember right, missions was left somekind of protecting the protectors of escorts / strikes etc. What i have heard, it is also very nice plane to fly and the turnaround time is worlds high-end! Though it has not reverse gear like Viggen did ;D It is also designed to use roads etc. as "moving" airfields / ground controls. Sweden has always been good making their own war gear for use in their own country. Also worlds top in Naval warfare. Specially in missileboats and submarines.
That was some great editing with the view of the missile homing in! Great stuff. Really entertaining.. I will watch the tacview later this time. I think it will be worth it
RX: a different strategy vs Gripen. Fire a pair off from initial highest altitude, crank, shoot again, crank more, shoot again. The direction of the cranks should match his cranks. There's an old sniper's maxim when shooting at targets running between cover. If you miss, shoot slightly ahead of general direction of travel. Then shoot behind, then shoot exactly where your original shot missed. It's very effective I'm told. I don't think human behavior is going to change bc you're sitting in an aircraft. What you should end up with is missiles somewhat line-abreast closing in a pincer maneuver as the 1st two missiles probably lofted and therefore will take more time getting to the target, the 3rd missiles you'd want to loft a little (find that launch altitude) and the 4th, not at all. This should have them all arriving at about the same time from different directions and angles of approach.
This would be a lot more effective if the missiles were talking to each other or to "The Hive" via DataLink, which is still SciFi (but much closer than in '04 when I was thinking on it), but I think this would be worth investigating in DCS if you can find a willing adversary pilot. If I were that pilot I'd want to 1st investigate the performance of Meteor in DCS to know when to crank, recommit and when to get the hell out of Dodge. Meteor may well change the dimensions of the MAR.
It says this was posted 4 min ago and there are already 49 👍. Loyal fan base !
I LOVE these. It’s like a 15 minute drive to work and I listen/glance at these every day
10:41 that was a really well shot camera sequence right there. Kudos!
The TACVIEW DEBRIEF is invaluable at seeing exactly what works, in dogfights and especially defending in BVR. It's not that your explanations are hard to follow when you're in the fight but the birds-eye view really brings it home. Thanks GS!
Love the Gripen just based on the looks, but the fact it's also a nasty jet is amazing
I love watching Growling Sidewinder dogfights. But what would really help me out is if he made a video series called "So You Just Got DCS And Have Absolutely No Idea How To Do Anything"
11:21 "...Really big BBQ...", laughed out loud :D
11:06 Scared me so much careful fellow headphone users :D
I didnt even have headphones and got scared anyway :/
Imagine being that pilot
@@daliborkvit1190 If he got out of that alive, he would be known as the pilot who ended the perfect F-15 kill ratio
@@amazingstealth8235 True, but maybe He would be lucky enough to RTB
Love that sound!
Noce GS. Good video the other day too showing how to fly the raptor against a gripen!
YES HOLY CRAP!! I requested this video not to long ago! Whooohooo thank you GS!
Could you do videos where you try to use a Fox2 such as the aim 9x at the limit of its range (10miles? 19 miles?) and see if you can get a kill? Let the missile fly until it starts to detect the IR signature of the enemy.
Nice to see a BVR fight once again, and all that lobbing of missiles , what a sight!!
Amazing video! I was wondering if you have any videos on the uses, merits and use cases for how jamming works. I've never been so interested in how jamming works more than this videos . Thanks and keep it up and shotgun is a good guy.
Pretty sure this happened in real life, but it was 3 F-15’s and 1 Gripen in a BVR if I remember correctly, the gripen scored 2 kills, the third one ran away.
In what? Red flag?
@@boostedbadboyzx12r31 If I remember correctly it was not in Red flag , but over in europe and I dont belive it was just 1 Gripen. However since it was the old Gripen C , the last F-15 easily escaped. Mission was(is?) classified so we dont know what the F-15 had on the wings at the time and the pilots havent really bragged about it so Im gonna assume , despite being a Gripen fan boy , that it was more luck/circumstance and not something easily repeated.
GS : That looks like a crash site ...
Gopnik having a regular barbecue seeing missiles flying around : ... Vadim blyat
I read that the Meteor missile has a ramjet some time ago but did not think much about it until I started watching GS who explained the tactics of BVR combat to me. Only then I realize the implications of having a missile with thrust all the way to target. If that missile ever gets included as an official module everyone will have to switch cause everything else will make you easy target.
Well, you sure got the point. Just change the letters from dcs to....
Aim-54 should have a similiar range
@@Mike_Romeo AIM-54 had extreme range against large, co-operating targets. Against fighter aircraft it wasn't much use as it lost a lot of speed, particularly if any turning was involved. Ultimately it was designed as a bomber killer.
@@dogsnads5634 Still AIM-54 shot down more aircraft than the AMRAAM did...
@@dogsnads5634 Iranians shot down dozens of aircraft with it
That edit of the fatal missile was awesome!
"Missiles only chase you with an engine burning for minutes in Hollywood movies"
🇬🇧🧐☕ - _Hold my tea_
Gripen is a budget beast for sure
I am used to hearing the sonic boom as soon as the jet flies by when it is supersonic... but it really puts in perspective how fast that missile was at over mach 4 at 5:42 where it took like a second after the missile passed before you heard the boom.
Why not re engage the first Missile as you have two way data link with it
Damn GS your content is getting even better, please keep it up. Are you excited for the Eurofighter?
Great GS. And you diserve the cred from the last wid. I hope you do the Viper vs Gripen next. I guess the big one will be F35 when its the Gripens compeditor in Suomi and for Canada. And..
I'm glad that guns was'nt used. LoL. 👍
I dunno how many times I scrolled passed this one thinking it was the previous video I already saw. I'd guess the air breathing meteor w variable throttle will outclass any Aim-120 variant by a giant margin perhaps far more than we see here. But yeah classified so... 🤷🏼♂️
I think you nailed it the first time by saying he committed 1 second too early. He just happened to get a little too close like how you got really lucky with your recommitting and barely dodging the AMRAAMs.
Epic camera angles on those replays!
Who knew BVR was this complicated?... Probably a lot of people but not me
Very cool and instructive video.
Please do more BVR.
My name is bleach drinker I’m 16 years old and I’m addicted to watching growling sidewinder
well if you want to keep watching videos in the future you should probably stop drinking bleach my dude.
@@GrowlingSidewinder true
@@GrowlingSidewinder it’s my gamer jucie
Im 17, and I loved when GS treated the R-37 as an AMRAAM and thought that he would be safe
And the collabs with Longshot in the F-14 multicrew are amazing, my favs
thanks for the video and the explanation -- i've always wanted to be a pilot and now through your videos i get to kinda feel like what it is like
The cockpit model of the Gripen must be older than the plane itself. DOS called and wants its graphics back.
Pretty decent, they are made for free without much reference material.
Great videos. Hope more BVR videos are coming
" and it looks like someone having big barbecue over there " ... 🤭 Nobody wouldn't be able to Mortify to bandit as much as you could
Awesome vid! Can you do some fights with Viggen? Gripens predecessor. :)
Kudos to Shotgun for giving you one helluva fight. He really made you earn it, despite the fearsome capabilities of the Meteor. And earn it you did!
This was one of the most interesting aerial "chess matches" you've done, enjoyed it immensely. By way of comparison, I couldn't sit through F-22 vs F-35. That was like clubbing baby seals.
Meteor Missile can turn on and turn of it's fule usage. To save fule for last minute impact.
I once built a 50m2 Panasonic Astrovision LED 20 next to the runway at Såtenas Airforce base in Sweden for an airshow showing off the Gripen to the world. It was very loud when they took off and its the first and only time I built a screen with a feeling like I was in some kind of war effort. I was able to have a close look at the planes and I even was invited to have a go in the life size (nose section) simulator and being an aircraft nut (but not a pilot for 30yrs) I can proudly say that they asked me what I was flying? The Screen stuck out like a sore thumb on the horizon so I just pointed "that thing"....
"... unless someone's having a really big barbecue over there." Well it was a barbecue. Smoked Eagle.
amazing cameras video with fly pass, was awsome video!
So the take away from this is to fire two missiles initially.
One on homing, and second set for home on jam.
EuroFighter 2000 announced for DCS bois
Lol, it was announced long time ago. In march 2020 if I remember correctly.
I'm your fan from Thailand.❤ last year The Royal Thai Air Force has had air exercises with China. Thailand uses the Jas 39 gripen C/D, while the Chinese Air Force uses the J-15. The Royal Thai Air Force shot down 48 Chinese J-15s in the exercises, losing 9 Gripens.
Can we see this Gripen vs a F35?
And that folks is why maneuverability is still important in BVR fights, not just just in dogfighting.
When GS fired that first meteor at high altitude the speed is at Mach 5.1, almost hypersonic, if that missile did hit that eagle even the meteor is at reduced speed already, the eagle pilot will not knew he's plane is hit by meteor its until he sees everything around him is burning because its that quick. The advantage I guess the eagle has in this Bvr engagement is it has a much higher climbing rate than the Gripen, considering Eagle has two engines than a single engined Gripen. But its been knows as well that Gripen is lethal in Bvr engagements, Im sure because of the Meteor missiles it carries.
The f-15 also has more powerful radar fron my understanding
@@LogieT2K That's a function of size, the F-15 has a much larger nose to stuff with electronics and greater wing area and engine thrust to carry the resulting weight, foolish not to take advantage of that. It's like The Rock carrying a Barret .50 up against Kevin Hart with a 7.62 similar weight as a proportion of gun to bodyweight, but one is just more powerful because the carrier is just so much bigger.
@@rhysfirth3506 Also related to cooling, which is the reason as to why GaN AESA radars are a step forward, such as the new Saab radar.
Great stuff growling
meteor is dangerous! Specially when it recommits at the last! increases the range and accuracy! wow!
Personally, I think the Gripen (Gryphon), is the most beautiful fighter jet of all time.
Basicly it's a next gen Mirage...
@@TheNecromancer6666 not really given that the last plane Saab made before was the Viggen which was also a double delta jet
@@emiliskog That is true. I meant its looks, role, weight class and Design. The Gripen is a 16,5 ton mutirole fighter. Like the Mirage 2000. They are very very similar. The Viggen is an Inceptor and Air Superioty Fighter, it is 4 Tons heavier then the Gripen and is only very limited in a multirole use. The Gripen is much closer to the Mirage 2000 then the Viggen.
Here's your 9/11 QRF interceptor for the CZcams algorithm.
Nicely done. :)
In my opinion, the mistake that Shotgun made was to fly directly away. This meant that the meteor did not have to turn and was able to keeps its energy. If Shotgun had flown away at an angle, the meteor would have had to turn and it would have lost its energy faster.
Me when I get off work at Walmart: 3:03
2:56 those meteor missiles are REALLY quiet 😅
I am from Brazilian Navy, so i am happy to see a brazilian Navy liverie
The Gripen is really good looking fighter jet, and I'm not just saying that because I'm Swedish. However, the best looking delta wing + canards design is the Dassault Rafale.
watching all this missile slinging f15x makes a whole lot of sense
Or f-15 x with meteors, but then there is 2XGripens with meteors for less $ . Either way you're right about f15x being a big leap.
That's a clean cockpit display
F-15 is pretty damn amazing achievement. Developed in 1972!! It's run as a dominant air superiority fighter is so impressive.
Finally, Gripen with METEOR vs F-15 with Amraam.
Is Shotgun the opposite of Longshot?
And do they specialize in the opposite of their call signs? Longshot in dogfights and Shotgun in BVR...
@@kieranh2005 I was in Navy stationed on a DDG. Thee shotgun ship is the first of the line furthest in the lead of a possible engagement. It is the first one to know there is an enemy and datalink the info back to the formation. Usually it is the most dangerous position, and first to get shot at.
damn gripen is such an good looking plane
That meteor is still slower compared to r37, but still pretty nifty considering EU almost made this without the help of US defence contractors.
Que bom que os americanos não quiseram transferir a tecnologia do F-18 Super Hornet para o Brasil mas a Suécia aceitou ensinar o Brasil a construir o Gripen em nosso país. Um caça superior a qualquer caça de quarta geração americano.
Excelente né. Hahahahahh
Só que o Meteor não é transferido
I don’t understand about 98% of this but it sure is cool to watch
Can you do a BVR fight against an F-35 please
How stealthy are these DCS F-35 and F-22 modules?
Awesome video. Is you dcs gripen C simulating the ms20 upgrade?
It's a very simple module, based on the F-15 module. Not exactly sure to what extent they have gone on the modeling but if they continue it should hopefully get better.
so in BVR, wouldn't it be an indicator that a missile was out on you if the target profile looked like they were defending, by dropping altitude?
yes, you COULD assume this. It is also sometimes used to make you THINK a missile was fired when in reality there were not within range, its a mental chess game at times. if you know the range to target and the bandits missile performance tho you can do the math and figure out when you should defend even if hes playing mind games with you.
i like that METIOR.....i LOVE stuff that has a LONG burning rocket motor
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like back in the 1.5 days..... the AIM7 had longer range (when bandit is cold) than the AIM120
simply due to the longer burning rocket motor
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so having a missile with a LONG burn time.... but also long range
that is a DANGEROUS missile
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you can turn cold.... but unless you get up to mach 1.8+ fast.... its gonna chase you down
We need a tournament between the j10,Typhoon,Gripen and the Rafale.
That radar display in the gripen is straight up F-15 vsd
you should try to make them 4 rounds where you pilot each plane twice so we get a bit more accurate results
I read somewhere that the Gripen killed the Su-27 in real life BVR combat simulation, something like 24 to 3 kills. Basically, the Gripen's small radar cross section gave it an advantage. I would expect the same against the F-15 killed. Su-27 killed the Gripen in close combat because of it's more powerful engines. Nice to see a 30 million plane beat a 90 million plane.
Americans and Russians will never understand that bigger and more expensive isn't always the answer.
@@TitaniusAnglesmith the gripen has lost over 10k simulated engagements with the usa's second cheapest fighter, the f-35. Which is cheaper by 10 million then the gripen.
@@freddarau Really got any source on that? Im really interested of reading that.
Dude Gripen price is not 30 mil more like 80 or 100 mil depending what country
@@stefandjurovic8121e version is
You must do video like this f 35 vs f22 but a long distance
That was a good BVR match.
Is there anything about J20 in DCS? Or what's your opinion about that aircraft?
20:34 i dont think so
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because the motor burns for SO MUCH LONGER..... the drag of the thcker air has WAY less time to effect it
might not get up to mach 3.4...... but it will stay above mach 2 for much longer
I love when you are playing gripen,
Can you make a video with gripen vs eurofighter typhoon?
@@ser43_OLDC ef doesn't have better radar for nos
F15 was unlucky to get with the 3rd missile at such low speed and the Gripen was lucky to avoid a very close call.
Gripen WVR missile IRIS-T needs to be used too... It can hit incoming BVR missiles.
GOOD, really interesting matter. Grippen in BVR + Meteor.
Gripen is pronounced "greepen" not grippen
@@erikreuterskiold5996 Hey bro. Gripen is still pretty much unknown, just saying 🙃
@@tomas7158 No harm intended, it's very common around the angloverse.
@@erikreuterskiold5996 Do you knows since when the Gripen use French missiles Meteor i though they used american ones ?
@@ommsterlitz1805 I don't know exactly when but Gripen was the the first plane to use the Meteor missile.
Can I request a BVR fight with an F-35 with AIM-120s vs a Russian plane with R-37s to see whether stealth or range matters more.