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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety +90

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    Anything can kill anything, but if you can get 2 people of equal kill and who understand the concepts of BFM and HOBS Dogfight the F-22 will dominate and that was made very clear in the tacview with the numbers we see there, its hard to argue the F-22 wouldn't win this fight every single time, ok guys thanks for watching, hope you enjoyed and I'll see you in the next one, much love.

    • @loganh0463
      @loganh0463 Před 2 lety +2

      it would be good to see you in the f22 vs someone in the typhoon. It would be an interesting dogfight

    • @Nicksanchez1122
      @Nicksanchez1122 Před 2 lety +2

      F22 vs j20

    • @kelvinkudirical1438
      @kelvinkudirical1438 Před 2 lety

      Grripen community is wierd af they say some wierd shitt a guy who is a groped fan told me once gropen can beat any 5th gen jet

    • @vitpokorny6563
      @vitpokorny6563 Před 2 lety

      me: Ah finaly gripen in czech colors
      gripen: Proceeds to gete anihilated by f22
      me: Well f**k

    • @caybrown7534
      @caybrown7534 Před 2 lety +3

      Dude you’re not even pulling back on the stick

  • @johnfcronkrite
    @johnfcronkrite Před 2 lety +3045

    Instead of pre-flaring maybe you should pre-eject?

    • @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1261
      @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1261 Před 2 lety +143

      if you eject there’s less possiblity that they shoot you down since you would technically not be in the plane therefore it was not you who got shot down!

    • @snugglecity3500
      @snugglecity3500 Před 2 lety +65

      @@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1261 it will be a stalemate therefore gripen=raptor

    • @bagellord
      @bagellord Před 2 lety +31

      There's no WSO to use as a decoy though

    • @vibrolax
      @vibrolax Před 2 lety +5

      @@bagellord Old WW2 submarine trick (also borrowed by Romulans).

    • @spencerrussell2267
      @spencerrussell2267 Před 2 lety +29

      And if you’ve ejected, it becomes a war crime to KIA you

  • @lancet.346
    @lancet.346 Před 2 lety +1864

    GS: "...put a chimpanzee in an F-22..."
    Me: Mother of God. I could be a Raptor driver.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety +143

      lold

    • @kelvinkudirical1438
      @kelvinkudirical1438 Před 2 lety +58

      @@GrowlingSidewinder Grripen community is wierd af they say some wierd shitt

    • @retardmoguss
      @retardmoguss Před 2 lety +27

      @@kelvinkudirical1438 ya gripen is overrated as hell.

    • @kelvinkudirical1438
      @kelvinkudirical1438 Před 2 lety +38

      @@retardmoguss gripen cant even out turn su 27 lol out turning f 22 is like hardest thing to do which gripen can never achive

    • @angelarch5352
      @angelarch5352 Před 2 lety +15

      Give me a banana, I will fly!

  • @crankthetank3581
    @crankthetank3581 Před 2 lety +583

    "i wonder if he is gonna let me go"
    *sees 9x coming at full speed*
    "nope"

  • @Dyjsong
    @Dyjsong Před 2 lety +223

    If Shotgun and Longshot do a multicrew F14 is their callsign Longshotgun?

    • @Obirascor
      @Obirascor Před 2 lety +43

      Shotshot obviously.

    • @Dyjsong
      @Dyjsong Před 2 lety +20

      @@Obirascor Double-Shot

    • @Cybetrexs
      @Cybetrexs Před 2 lety +10

      @@Obirascor this needs to be canon. Callsign shotshot merging with a mig.

    • @avramnovorra
      @avramnovorra Před 2 lety +2

      This has to happen!

    • @Mkby88
      @Mkby88 Před 2 lety +4

      Double tap

  • @starbase218
    @starbase218 Před 2 lety +1219

    “Left engine fire”
    Me thinking… wasn’t there just one engine on a Gripen?

    • @Redbull2D
      @Redbull2D Před 2 lety +122

      One of the problems with modding a 1 engine jet with fc3 lol

    • @poopoop825
      @poopoop825 Před 2 lety +7

      it might mean intakes ??? i’m not sure though

    • @Redbull2D
      @Redbull2D Před 2 lety +24

      @@poopoop825 I'm pretty sure it isn't though, it wouldn't make sense dunno 😂

    • @catsfrommars
      @catsfrommars Před 2 lety +230

      Avionics got hit so hard it forgot what plane it was on

    • @charak100able
      @charak100able Před 2 lety +11

      Lol. Thought the same thing. Had to rewind to make sure she really said that 😁

  • @sayan-4971
    @sayan-4971 Před 2 lety +577

    F22: Ah! I see you are still bound by the laws of physics

    • @adrianstachowski9422
      @adrianstachowski9422 Před 2 lety +22

      @@Forthenheimer And pilots physical boundaries. At this point only somekind of future fighter drone could dogfight this

    • @jizburg
      @jizburg Před 2 lety +9

      Laws of physics are for peasants.
      Still love the gripen tho.

    • @saltyfloridaman7163
      @saltyfloridaman7163 Před 2 lety +8

      Don't worry, the F-35 obliterated the Gripen in testing recently in both bvr and visual range dogfighting when Finland was deciding what to buy. The F-22 basically enjoys a free meal

    • @saltyfloridaman7163
      @saltyfloridaman7163 Před 2 lety +11

      @Drew Peacock the F-35 has one of the most advanced EW suites ever fitted into an aircraft. It can jam and trick enemy EW suites, block the MAWS, etc. It wasn't rigged in the slightest. The Gripen just isn't up to par

    • @CrayonEater255
      @CrayonEater255 Před 2 lety +9

      @Drew Peacock yeah dude they rigged their own test and chose a supposedly “worse” jet (which is clearly better than the Gripen) that just doesn’t make any sense. Just absurd to think a Swedish 4.5 Gen aircraft can beat an American 5th Gen jet, just absurd.

  • @joetorres1861
    @joetorres1861 Před 2 lety +435

    Just a suggestion. You are both of course capable but after having the F-22 win 2 or 3 times, I would suggest switching planes. Maybe (no disrespect) one is a better fighter pilot. If you took the 22 and win the next couple matches would demonstrate your point better in my opinion.

    • @-_deploy_-
      @-_deploy_- Před 2 lety +32

      Agreed

    • @mikaelb.4799
      @mikaelb.4799 Před 2 lety +11

      Very good point.

    • @factChecker01
      @factChecker01 Před 2 lety +25

      Those were pretty simple maneuvers and even when the Gripen started its turn first the F-22 got its nose around much earlier.

    • @SillyDillysTunes
      @SillyDillysTunes Před 2 lety +18

      The math at the end proves why it's inferior plenty.

    • @kyleanderson9004
      @kyleanderson9004 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed.

  • @__-fm5qv
    @__-fm5qv Před 2 lety +123

    The Gripen is amazing for what it is, a small, low cost, reliable multi-role fighter. It can *almost* keep up with its more expensive multirole counter parts, and factoring in the cost that makes it incredibly impressive. But what it isn't, is a 5th gen killing air superiority fighter, and that shows here. Its an excellent aircraft for what it is, but it isn't a raptor killer, it was never designed to be! An aircraft with that capability would be far outside the budget for the Gripen.

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 Před rokem +2

      I wonder if a few upgrades to its technology etc if it could put up a more of a closer fight.

    • @macicoinc9363
      @macicoinc9363 Před rokem +6

      @@mitchjames9350 Like what? No amount of tech upgrades are going to allow it turn fast enough to get that nose in anywhere near the same position as the f22.

    • @maximus.4656
      @maximus.4656 Před rokem +3

      Gripens hunt in packs .

    • @dimitri1154
      @dimitri1154 Před rokem +7

      The Gripen is one of the most overrated modern fighters. No combat history, very modest flight characteristics, mediocre weapons and carrying capacity. Euro-chiqueness and being Swedish is the only thing it has going for it (esentially just good marketing from Saab)

    • @bjornerikroth
      @bjornerikroth Před rokem +8

      @@dimitri1154 Ah, the Meteor is mediocre. That's high standards for sure!

  • @aggressivelychad
    @aggressivelychad Před 2 lety +153

    The flat spin flare drop…who knew the F-22, an aircraft, could actually look happy.

  • @kenchen704
    @kenchen704 Před 2 lety +312

    Also praise lord GS for the humiliation and suffering he endured to make this video getting killed again and again in the Gripen XD

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety +39

      ahaha ya dude, it was a rough video to make.

    • @maytherebepeaceintheworld4726
      @maytherebepeaceintheworld4726 Před 2 lety +2

      🤣 ikr

    • @highjix
      @highjix Před 2 lety +4

      @@GrowlingSidewinder I only just recently found your channel, so your older subs may already know the answer, but why didn't you switch planes so that we could see how it looks from the raptor pilots pov?

    • @burntburrito8886
      @burntburrito8886 Před 2 lety +3

      @@highjix he will show it sometimes but often he’s showcasing one plane vs the other not just the fight

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety +9

      @@burntburrito8886 this is accurate, also sometimes the other guy doesn't own the other plane or isn't competent in it.

  • @sbg911
    @sbg911 Před 2 lety +518

    Seriously spent that whole vid laughing at the sheer futility, it was like watching the world's saddest groundhog day. Btw I think you did well to last as long as you did in some of those engagements...

    • @VikingTeddy
      @VikingTeddy Před 2 lety +8

      I hope these mods get a proper flight model some day. I'd be interested in how these fights would actually go. At the moment the stf won't even allow you to stall unless you *really* try.

    • @rodneydecormier1504
      @rodneydecormier1504 Před 2 lety +4

      You should watch the video of him in a tomcat trying to fight a raptor.

    • @HenrikHuber
      @HenrikHuber Před 2 lety +2

      I wonder if a human pilot actually could make thoose F22 turns in reality without getting a black out??

    • @duanesamuelson2256
      @duanesamuelson2256 Před 2 lety +3

      @@HenrikHuber it depends on where the actual turning point of the aircraft is.
      Despite where the nose is pointing it actual did look like the plane was rotating faster than the actual turning radius. I admit this could make the g-load worse also as you start calculating loads by vectors.

    • @HenrikHuber
      @HenrikHuber Před 2 lety +1

      @@duanesamuelson2256 Yes if the F22 pilot blacks out due to his extreme G-turnig manuvers he would probably get shot down. Another factor might be due to wich speed the aircraft is at when sharper turns are used. If this is the case a pilot using a 4th generation fighter vs an F22 might level his chanses in higher speeds, rather than the usual, slower dogfighting speeds?
      I don't now, just brainstorming a little...

  • @jacobblair6181
    @jacobblair6181 Před 2 lety +35

    When the f22 and a grippen merge.
    F22: so you have chosen death.

  • @haidcar
    @haidcar Před 2 lety +219

    Gripen: left engine fire
    also Gripen: single egnine multi role fighter

    • @paodebatata6606
      @paodebatata6606 Před 2 lety +33

      its just one of the ways to say the engine has left

    • @Cybetrexs
      @Cybetrexs Před 2 lety +9

      @@paodebatata6606 it’s not saying the left engine is on fire, it’s saying the engine has leftcthe aircraft, leaving only a fire.

    • @razorback20
      @razorback20 Před 2 lety +4

      Also Gripen : 'hydraulic failure'
      Reality : whole right wing gone
      Who the heck programmed this computer? Seriously?

    • @Cybetrexs
      @Cybetrexs Před 2 lety +11

      @@razorback20 it’s cause it’s using the F-15 as the base

    • @duanesamuelson2256
      @duanesamuelson2256 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Cybetrexs remember there was an F-15 that the pilot not only maintained control after a mid air collision but landed the thing successfully. That's without the right wing.. I guess loosing your wing would be "just" a hydraulic failure.
      Israeli F 15 if anyone cares to look it up. There are also videos of the incident.

  • @matchesburn
    @matchesburn Před 2 lety +362

    ...It's almost like an aircraft with thrust vectoring, actual full-aspect stealth and one of the most advanced LPI AESA radars on the planet is actually the most dangerous opponent on the planet for air combat right now. Imagine that. I'm waiting for the "the Raptor is overrated, the MiG-21 can beat it every time" crowd to appear.

    • @lonniebailey4989
      @lonniebailey4989 Před 2 lety +106

      The Raptor is overrated. The MiG-21 can beat it every time.
      Sorry, just had to do it. Just note I was obviously joking. MiG-21 vs F-22 is like taking a Mazda RX-8 up against a Koenigsegg CCXR.

    • @jacobrudder7582
      @jacobrudder7582 Před 2 lety +63

      I mean they built more Mig-21's so obviously they must be better!
      (is only joke please don't hurt me)

    • @Thunderkorn
      @Thunderkorn Před 2 lety +20

      @@jacobrudder7582 I'm triggered so I'm disliking because that's how mafia works

    • @vibrolax
      @vibrolax Před 2 lety +26

      @@lonniebailey4989 If you mount a couple Hellfires on your RX-8, you can defeat the CCXR as it blows past. And you know the driver will not be able to resist getting in front.

    • @matchesburn
      @matchesburn Před 2 lety +40

      @@MelioraCogito
      Oh, man, don't even get me started on the F-35...
      Chances you you might already know, but if you don't, do you want to know something that will make you even more unhappy? Rumsfield came out and said that the reason they greenlit the YF-22 over the YF-23 was because the United States Navy expressed interest in the Advanced Tactical Fighter program and because the YF-22 would be easier to navalize and make a carrier variant of than the YF-23. After the YF-22 won? The Navy went, "Nah, we're not interested" and went on to dump billions of dollars into the A-12 Avenger... which literally never had anything built or flown.
      And, of course, we all know that the F-22 production line shut down because we had to pay for the F-35. Yet some people still try and claim it wasn't...
      The whole idea behind the F-35 and how it was "sold" to the government and military was "it's too expensive to design and build multiple airframes for each service." Which sounds... dodgy. And, of course, it wasn't true. With the cost of the F-35's development and unit price we could have easily built 3 separate airframes (maybe with some increased parts commonality to help with logistics) that would've been the same price or cheaper and not have the design compromised to fit 3 different services and roles.
      I'd like to imagine a world where the F-35 didn't happen and they kept making and buying F-22s and just updated/upgraded the F-15/F-16 fleet and with the cost savings also started making an upgraded new manufacture A-10 series. And, as much as I love the Harrier, the USMC did need a more capable upgrade. The Navy seems to be going along just fine with the Super Bugs, and honestly, after the A-12 fiasco I don't really trust them having sole ownership of any fighter development in this day and age.

  • @005AGIMA
    @005AGIMA Před 2 lety +51

    The way the F22 moves.....I've not been into Flight Sims for a loooooong time, but compared to things like the F16 and F18, that F22 just looks like something from another planet. Amazing!

  • @mozworthy
    @mozworthy Před 2 lety +20

    I have worked at Amberley airbase, Australia.
    I can recall a few years back when Aus was doing an exercise with the US and we had a bunch of F22's here as part of the thing.
    Long story short, I was on base working when a flight of F22's returned. The turn to get to the runway alignment was just above my head. I was watching a plane come around in an easy turn as they always do to get to where they should be.
    I can only assume the pilot was watching me and wanted to show off.
    He proceeded to do what I can only describe as a power slide that changed his trajectory by at least 40 degrees in the space of a second.
    I was stunned beyond words.
    I was used to seeing FA18 Supers perform all sorts of maneuvers over the base (they practice the upcoming airshows there) and sure it was low speed, but I was absolutely astonished at the incredible agility of this one maneuver.

    • @dat581
      @dat581 Před 2 lety

      The F-35 regularly pulls the same tricks at Willytown these days.

  • @turbooo7005
    @turbooo7005 Před 2 lety +94

    Are we just going to ignore that killer soundtrack GS put in the kill recap segments? What track is that?!

    • @goldenageofdinosaurs7192
      @goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Před 2 lety +3

      I don’t know, but it sounds grimy as hell!

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety +20

      I dont know the name of the track the file on my PC was called "racing-W7M"

    • @wvvalencia
      @wvvalencia Před 2 lety +3

      Someone has got to know that song and where we can get it

    • @blackhalo6
      @blackhalo6 Před 2 lety

      So, I tried each cut section he had on there. I tried it on Shazam, SoundHound, and google song search. No results for any of it. I can only assume it's a royalty free song or something.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety +17

      @@blackhalo6 its not royalty free lol, I pay for all the music you guys hear in these videos. which is why I can't share them for you guys I'm not allowed to distribute under the licensing agreement.

  • @kenchen704
    @kenchen704 Před 2 lety +163

    3:44 “I don’t know how I am still alive”
    F22: Yeah right…

    • @kelvinkudirical1438
      @kelvinkudirical1438 Před 2 lety +5

      Grripen community is wierd af they say some wierd shitt

    • @SonnyKnutson
      @SonnyKnutson Před 2 lety +6

      @@kelvinkudirical1438 I am a Gripen fan but I know very well that the Gripen can't beat thrust vectoring in a dogfight. If Gripen is to have any chance it would have to be in a Beyond Visual Range fight. But even then I doubt Gripen stands a chance against the F22 Raptor.
      If it was Gripen E it might be a different story but I still think it would be a very difficult fight for Gripen. Would def be more interesting tho. (In Beyond Visual Range that is).

    • @kelvinkudirical1438
      @kelvinkudirical1438 Před 2 lety +2

      @@SonnyKnutson the only gripen fan i repect. U have my respect 🤜🤜

    • @hughmungus5033
      @hughmungus5033 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SonnyKnutson stealth, and supercruise would definitely aid the F22. I understand stealth isn't invisibility but it definitely reduces the range at which the enemy can detect, and track you. Both of which are important to bvr. The low probability of intercept radar would also make the F22's attacks harder to detect and as a result harder to survive.

  • @landonsrt9587
    @landonsrt9587 Před 2 lety +14

    I happened to be driving in Marietta, GA back in 98 and watched this jet take off, go completely vertical and disappear. Then it came back in low and bolted. It was an F22. 3 years before it was introduced. I was no more than
    200 yards away and had no idea what I was looking at.

    • @user-vt2cr8qd1b
      @user-vt2cr8qd1b Před 2 lety +2

      UFO sighting!
      (to be fair if it is unidentified and it is flying, it is a ufo!)

  • @crusader318
    @crusader318 Před 2 lety +26

    I’ve lived on an Air Force base with F22s, so we saw them a lot. I swear their turns are frickin unreal, the best way to win a fight versus them, is to not engage and run away.

    • @lxrd_cs
      @lxrd_cs Před 2 lety

      Nah the best way is to launch a BrahMos going mach 2.8 at that thing and laugh

    • @chrisoreilly3481
      @chrisoreilly3481 Před 2 lety +6

      You can't even out run the damn thing that's the problem. The f-22 gets you on radar and youre basically done. No way you're evading 2.25 mach.

    • @lxrd_cs
      @lxrd_cs Před 2 lety

      @@chrisoreilly3481 I mean BrahMos is a SAM so good luck dodging that with your Raptor

    • @power21100
      @power21100 Před 2 lety +8

      @@lxrd_cs uhhhmmm.... Yeah, how can your SAM lock at the F22 if it can't see it on radar?

    • @AIMENGAGED
      @AIMENGAGED Před 2 lety

      @@chrisoreilly3481 in an F-15 you can, but theres no point in the F-15 running

  • @aaronsh242
    @aaronsh242 Před 2 lety +135

    "its possible that when you put a chimpanzee in the f22 cockpit the Gripen can win so I needed to choose a competent pilot" proceeds to pick shotgun over longshot to pilot the f22.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety +57

      ahah longshot would have also been great, but he was not available.

    • @Reaper_03-01
      @Reaper_03-01 Před 2 lety +23

      @@GrowlingSidewinder you know the bromance between yourself and Longshot is strong when Longshot turns down an opportunity to pay you back for amputating his Huey's tail a week or so ago.

    • @aaronsh242
      @aaronsh242 Před 2 lety

      Hey all I’m saying is to read between the lines

    • @pooyarad
      @pooyarad Před 2 lety +2

      Hahaaaaaaaaaa . I wish longshot would comment here

    • @pooyarad
      @pooyarad Před 2 lety +1

      On such situation longshot becomes a blood thirsty creature!

  • @idfclutchnixon
    @idfclutchnixon Před 2 lety +77

    1:13 that's a show alone... those flares are so cinematic and well done! also happy to see old kill cams. and I feel like we're just getting started!

  • @11bravocrunchie22
    @11bravocrunchie22 Před 2 lety +16

    Really enjoy these 1-on-1's. One thing I wouldn't mind seeing in some of these really close matchups is the perspective from the other plane as well.

  • @IanB1015
    @IanB1015 Před 2 lety +5

    “I wonder if he’s going to let me go… nope” 😆😆😆
    The disrespect from the flat splinting flairs. 🤦‍♂️😆

    • @IanB1015
      @IanB1015 Před 2 lety +1

      Splinting….spinning. Thanks iPhone. 🤦‍♂️

  • @brock0382
    @brock0382 Před 2 lety +38

    2:05
    "Left engine - fire"
    "...I only have the one...?"

    • @Darthybuddy
      @Darthybuddy Před 2 lety +2

      Nope. That’s the plane warning you that you have no engines. The one you had just left… while on fire.

    • @Power5
      @Power5 Před 2 lety +1

      The computer had so many systems to say were destroyed, it got confused.

  • @msc9944
    @msc9944 Před 2 lety +57

    I have no idea if there’s a mod out there for the YF-23 but that vs the F-22 would be a sick battle to see

    • @TheAndrettiDog
      @TheAndrettiDog Před 2 lety +14

      The YF-22 was more maneuverable than the YF-23 which had lower RCS. So unless it's a BVR fight, the F-22 should wax it.

    • @FusionAero
      @FusionAero Před 2 lety +3

      Black Widow would still hold the high cards in stealth, speed, climb rate, and energy retention. Getting your sneks to growl at the heat-tile shielded engines could be a challenge as well.
      Every plane can be an energy fighter, or a maneuver fighter, relative to what it is facing.

    • @dashy90210
      @dashy90210 Před 2 lety +7

      If we bring the F-22 back to ATF-era tech, it'll murder the YF-23 in dogfights (maneuverability, bit smaller/lighter too) and get murdered BVR (slower, worse RCS). If we put current F-22 against YF-23? no contest.

    • @223556762308
      @223556762308 Před 2 lety

      Shame it’s turbine blades could be visible to ground radars

    • @dashy90210
      @dashy90210 Před 2 lety +2

      @@myusername3689 I don't mind being corrected but being 'well actually'd I don't enjoy. The F-22 is more maneuverable at low speeds due to thrust vectoring (and slightly better wing loading). What speeds do dogfights happen at? Especially with the assumed turn rates and weapons involved, no decent F-22 driver would opt for a med-high speed rate fight, they'd force it low-speed one circle. If you're going to correct someone, get it right.

  • @ceciliaieav
    @ceciliaieav Před 2 lety +8

    The Gripen E "turn up the nose"
    rotates the base of the RAVEN ES-05 radar
    and aim upwards the AESA to engage at 120 degrees angle, confirming direction following by HMD...
    with A-darter or Iris-T he would fire first, in all these opportunities:
    1:52
    2:32
    3:28
    3:59
    5:53
    6:12
    6:57
    8:11
    8:26
    10:21
    12:24

    • @SirSpoof254
      @SirSpoof254 Před 2 lety

      This^
      At the end of the day, this is a game and people seem to forget that. It's amazing how much fun you can get out of it but making real world conclusions based of this... laughable.

    • @edwardmiller4562
      @edwardmiller4562 Před rokem +3

      Except he would be dead before he got that far in BVR.

    • @porsche9289
      @porsche9289 Před rokem

      Jas 🇸🇪

  • @DataRew
    @DataRew Před 2 lety +1

    I really dig the addition of music to the external shots and the usual speaking for the internal! Great change!

  • @Nixo_01
    @Nixo_01 Před 2 lety +22

    Ok gotta mention this. That's some sick music during the replay! I like how this channel is evolving and engaging more with the viewers.

  • @chrisschweitzer7342
    @chrisschweitzer7342 Před 2 lety +18

    Hey there GS. Love your content. I'm sure you've heard this before so I'd just like to throw a vote in for it too. It might be really interesting to see the format where you and the other pilot swap jets after 2 rounds. That will allow folks to see if it's just a case of the jet being better or if it's the skill of the pilots that's ruling the day. Just a thought and once again, I really appreciate all the amazing content that you are putting out.

  • @aryanjaiswal3110
    @aryanjaiswal3110 Před 2 lety +18

    Daaaam GS you killed it❤️❤️
    Killer Soundtrack
    Reverse Cinematography to explain the instantaneous turn Rate of F22
    Eating AIM 9Xs on your face just for the sake of this video
    And your soothing calming Voice is just chef's Kiss 😁
    Love your content even more my brother with every coming video you give us more reasons to love your Content 🙏
    Never ever lose hope GS and his Buddies keep doing your awesome work it's my inspiration for being a Fighter Pilot ❤️

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety +5

      much love buddy thanks for the love and support.

    • @einar8019
      @einar8019 Před 2 lety

      @@GrowlingSidewinder why were you carying rb74(aim9l) and not iris t

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Před 2 lety

      @@einar8019 I'm not, the gripen is carrying 9x as well to make it exactly even.

  • @itsjustyas7724
    @itsjustyas7724 Před 2 lety +84

    off topic, you ever gonna stream on twitch again. Not sure if you've talked about it before but it'd be nice! Alright onto the video..

  • @pogga3051
    @pogga3051 Před 2 lety +21

    The complete silence KILLED IN ACTION is so satisfying

  • @marty5300
    @marty5300 Před rokem +1

    I gotta say, I found this channel a few days ago and love your content. I enjoy watching these videos of you getting wrecked by the f22, the commentary makes it even funnier.

  • @czar8304
    @czar8304 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the edits that you made with the merge. Keep up the good work GS!

  • @felipejara4758
    @felipejara4758 Před 2 lety +44

    The physics are meaningless for the F22. My god that nose just points at you at will 🤣

    • @jmkhenka
      @jmkhenka Před 2 lety +1

      Well, problem is neither gripen or f22 is anywhere near authentic in this game. They are still top secret, their capabilities are not public.
      quite dumb to make a statement with a videogame.
      In reality the gripen will never encounter a f22..

  • @nathanaelgilkes4412
    @nathanaelgilkes4412 Před 2 lety +7

    Another 1...appreciate the hard work sidewinder

  • @Andrew-27
    @Andrew-27 Před 2 lety +9

    Gripen - Literally on fire.
    F22 - I'm not done yet.

    • @jbloun911
      @jbloun911 Před 4 měsíci +1

      F22 has water cannon to put out only to catch plane on 🔥 again

  • @briancrouch4389
    @briancrouch4389 Před 2 lety

    I think it is pretty rare for me to LOL and react out loud on CZcams videos. This one made me do both, this was great. keep it up. Thanks, I am enjoying your channel.

  • @brandonschwertley2723
    @brandonschwertley2723 Před 2 lety +8

    GS taking the pain for our enjoyment again, kudos.
    Raptor: "wow Gripen, you're really strong"
    Gripen "don't be modest, I know you didn't even use half your power"

  • @FilouZ_9000
    @FilouZ_9000 Před 2 lety +70

    "the grippen can beat the raptor every time, if it was flown by chuck yeager and the raptor by a chimp"
    beautiful :')

    • @kelvinkudirical1438
      @kelvinkudirical1438 Před 2 lety

      Grripen community is wierd af they say some wierd shitt

    • @Macovic
      @Macovic Před 2 lety +5

      The raptor will win every time if it is flown better

  • @tonyrun5802
    @tonyrun5802 Před 2 lety +7

    Awesome video (and the MUSIC DUDE, IT ROCKED!), but also props to Chuck Yeager for having been a living legend. May he dance with the angels.

  • @willtaylor6793
    @willtaylor6793 Před rokem +1

    I love how you just see the nose just instantly snap around and there’s literally not a single thing you can do about it

  • @anthonypoltes7413
    @anthonypoltes7413 Před 2 lety +4

    Loving the new music man, keep up the great content!

  • @grigorispanousis9745
    @grigorispanousis9745 Před 2 lety +8

    These ppl come from the grim reapers video, but we all know the grim reapers arent there for their competence

  • @ofacesig
    @ofacesig Před rokem +1

    This is one of the best videos on CZcams. Period.

  • @Wraithss
    @Wraithss Před 2 lety +1

    Dude this is your best video yet. Nicely done. -Wraith

  • @longtimber
    @longtimber Před 2 lety +59

    How about a $/$ fight where you fight however many Grippens can be bought for the cost of one F-22? Just for fun

    • @edwardcardozo8325
      @edwardcardozo8325 Před 2 lety +10

      Not enough to defeat one raptor (jk)

    • @WorkedSnail
      @WorkedSnail Před 2 lety +17

      @@edwardcardozo8325 this is probably actually true, if it's BVR.

    • @isaacjm9
      @isaacjm9 Před 2 lety +4

      I really like this idea and would love to see it. GS make it happen babe.

    • @snugglecity3500
      @snugglecity3500 Před 2 lety +6

      Gloster meteor vs f22

    • @Giesus3
      @Giesus3 Před 2 lety +2

      That's actually an interesting idea. I'd watch it.

  • @MRT1822A
    @MRT1822A Před 2 lety +8

    Look Boss GS, you've got to understand most of us (all of us) are laughing at the futility of this fight. However ALL of us know the frustration you were going through and for that we are eternally grateful. At least I was. Bet I can hear Longshot laughing back there.
    By the way thanks to Shotgun for the video.

  • @ChristoFreeze
    @ChristoFreeze Před 2 lety +1

    This is amazing stuff. Well done

  • @GaTiger11
    @GaTiger11 Před 2 lety +10

    I love the gun kills. Missiles are cool and all but there's just something really special about closing in on your opponent and downing them with the gun.

  • @cgilleybsw
    @cgilleybsw Před 2 lety +9

    What's worse is most of the time, you'll never see the F22 that kills you. LPI radar, stealth, AWACS lurking 100km behind. As one Raptor pilot said, "like seal clubbing in a barrel..." But that thrust vectoring... wow...

    • @matso3856
      @matso3856 Před 2 lety

      Actually if your bringing in the Gripens strong suit (radar jamming & detection) the playing field gets more equal , however it would still most likely result into the F22 just having to gun down Gripen.
      Edit: Oh sorry , didnt notice this was Gripen C , yeah then its game over if the raptor gets that close, without a wingman.

  • @brellnob
    @brellnob Před 2 lety +6

    Maybe Grim Reapers should watch this video and pay attention to those first few sentences.

  • @dtguy1
    @dtguy1 Před 2 lety +1

    Ur vids are a master class in dogfighting tactics along w knowledge of today's aircraft... I wish I had half the abilities (and the pc's) u guys own! Thank u for putting these together!

  • @Mobius118
    @Mobius118 Před 2 lety

    I quite enjoyed this one, my dude! Thanks 🤙🏼

  • @ZETH_27
    @ZETH_27 Před 2 lety +4

    Yeah, the people saying the JAS39 can outperform the F-22 in a 1v1 are fucking high. The F22 was built for high performance, the JAS39 was built to be an economically viable multirole fighter that literally costs less than half that of the F-22.

  • @ishiyamaaa
    @ishiyamaaa Před 2 lety +3

    This is so great to watch 🔥

  • @jeffwarren6906
    @jeffwarren6906 Před 2 lety +1

    Geez , I love this channel Sidewinder !!

  • @MajProblem09
    @MajProblem09 Před rokem +1

    That final missile after you were shot down made me flinch so hard.

  • @falsearbitrator2560
    @falsearbitrator2560 Před 2 lety +4

    I can't believe somebody unironically thought the f22 would lose this...

  • @mikehancho5286
    @mikehancho5286 Před 2 lety +17

    There was a test bench F-22 about 5 years after it was deployed where engineers tried new wings. The test pilot came back saying the G force he was experiencing were far far to extreme, and would damage the airframe, and would black out the pilot.

    • @CHADTHUNDERCOCK80085
      @CHADTHUNDERCOCK80085 Před 2 lety +1

      g forces affecting pilot and airframe isnt new been around since ww2 props

    • @svenjorgensen5
      @svenjorgensen5 Před rokem

      Both the pilot and the equipment is cognizant of the limitation of g forces on itself.

  • @sean70729
    @sean70729 Před 2 lety

    Some truly great footage as always.

  • @singlechristiancowboy
    @singlechristiancowboy Před rokem +1

    That Gripen in a turn against a Raptor was like a Lincoln Navigator tryna out turn a Mini Cooper.

  • @benjaminrobledo5466
    @benjaminrobledo5466 Před rokem +3

    F-22 is not an air superiority fighter.
    It's an air dominance fighter.

  • @lando1296
    @lando1296 Před 2 lety +5

    I don't think you've done this yet, but it would be really cool to see a 2v2 with actual player pilots in the F-22.

  • @simba1113
    @simba1113 Před 2 lety +1

    GS solid video Homie, love the work you do keep it up :)

  • @devanhusmann9297
    @devanhusmann9297 Před 2 lety +3

    I actually like watching your vids i play some sim games and i have fun with how you break things down step by step in alot of your vids it makes it easy to understand whats going on there anyway long story short keep up the good work mate wish ya all the best.

  • @blech71
    @blech71 Před 2 lety +8

    Jamming the WEZ and preflaring…. I heard that again in my head in Dom’s voice from Fast & The Furious…. A’la double clutchin like you should…. You never had me….

  • @oscarbergner
    @oscarbergner Před 2 lety +3

    Never seen any real life clips ever of a F-22 doing that tight turns thou. Maybe it's a classified turn :D

  • @larrylong4829
    @larrylong4829 Před 2 lety

    lol..."i wonder if he's going to let me go....nope!" splat! nice vid. Thanks!

  • @abdulmoeez2633
    @abdulmoeez2633 Před 2 lety +1

    Like the new background beat ✌🏻
    Eid Mubarak GS!

  • @vibrolax
    @vibrolax Před 2 lety +3

    GS is one of the smoothest-ejecting pilots I've ever seen. I can't see him getting his arms ripped off, or his neck snapped when he punches out. Flawless defeat.

  • @SnaketheJake87
    @SnaketheJake87 Před 2 lety +28

    Here's your winged sadism for the CZcams algorithm.

  • @johnfields9669
    @johnfields9669 Před 2 lety +1

    Love watching the f22 dance that nose control is insane

  • @tropicsalt.
    @tropicsalt. Před 2 lety

    I know it's just a game, but the dude was playing with you.
    LOL. Thanks for the vid.

  • @Giesus3
    @Giesus3 Před 2 lety +6

    When you do these types of videos it'd be interesting to see you guys switch planes at the halfway point.

  • @user-xf3ch1fu2i
    @user-xf3ch1fu2i Před 2 lety +8

    People are saying this because they saw a video from GrimReaper in which the grippen beat the f22 all times.

    • @Storlans
      @Storlans Před 2 lety +4

      since its mods it does not really say anything xD

    • @user-xf3ch1fu2i
      @user-xf3ch1fu2i Před 2 lety +2

      @@Storlans since it’s a video game it doesn’t really say anything. But let’s be honest, the f22 would still probably dominate. I mean after all it’s 3x the price

    • @Storlans
      @Storlans Před 2 lety +6

      @@user-xf3ch1fu2i being more expensive does not mean its better xD

  • @rollenford08
    @rollenford08 Před 2 lety

    Great flying and great video. It be pretty cool to see you in the f22 and someone else in one and you guy act as a hunter pack

  • @slapster2085
    @slapster2085 Před 2 lety

    I wonder if he’s gonna let me go…NOPE! XD had me rolling man! Great video!

  • @kmmediafactory
    @kmmediafactory Před 2 lety +10

    Me seeing the title: *cracks knuckles* “This is going to be fun”
    And also the new soundtrack is awesome. Fitting for the Raptor destroying its prey

  • @RS-gn4bv
    @RS-gn4bv Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for this video. Not for the whole F22 vs Gripen thing, but the digs that you've received in the past because you do fly above all that. Good to see similar though. Rootin for ya.

  • @andrewaldujaili3145
    @andrewaldujaili3145 Před 2 lety

    GS I like the music choice during the kill shot, very noicee

  • @spencer6145
    @spencer6145 Před 2 lety

    this is brilliant stuff!

  • @_Feyd-Rautha
    @_Feyd-Rautha Před 2 lety +26

    Ne’er before hast I clickethed must hastily for this Devine escape from my piteous reality. Hail Sidewinder!

    • @weirdbritishperson9542
      @weirdbritishperson9542 Před 2 lety +4

      You know, I didn’t know we were in 16th century England

    • @_Feyd-Rautha
      @_Feyd-Rautha Před 2 lety +3

      @@weirdbritishperson9542 hey lemme borrow that username
      Uh I mean May i b'rrow thy nameth sir

    • @lonniebailey4989
      @lonniebailey4989 Před 2 lety +1

      Shakespeare be like…

  • @steveb2915
    @steveb2915 Před 2 lety +8

    hey brother im watching them reveal checkmate so fitting you put up a fighter jet video lol

  • @dashy90210
    @dashy90210 Před 2 lety +1

    "i wonder if he's gonna let me go" heavily optimistic of you 😂

  • @chadh7005
    @chadh7005 Před 2 lety +2

    Most impressive part is we don't even know fully what the F-22 can do and still there's no competition.

    • @Riri-oj1zs
      @Riri-oj1zs Před 2 lety +1

      You're dead without even knowing why. That's the F-22.

  • @gastonformisano4181
    @gastonformisano4181 Před 2 lety +19

    Wait, why did it say "left engine fire"? I thought the gripen has one engine.

    • @Mobius118
      @Mobius118 Před 2 lety +1

      Correct

    • @JunaidAli-ws1li
      @JunaidAli-ws1li Před 2 lety +2

      Because it's probably based on F15-C from FC3?

    • @Vespyr_
      @Vespyr_ Před 2 lety +8

      It does and it's the left one.

    • @beng7844
      @beng7844 Před 2 lety

      The engine you know…

    • @killer408cid
      @killer408cid Před 2 lety +10

      @@Vespyr_ the Right-engined Gripens are made in a different factory across the street.

  • @Ankhobo
    @Ankhobo Před 2 lety +17

    "The Gripen can beat the F-22 every time" - I think someone mixed up the order of the two planes in that sentence

  • @MaxPowerFilthcrud
    @MaxPowerFilthcrud Před 2 lety

    Nice choice of music for the cinematic shots!

  • @cbspock1701
    @cbspock1701 Před 2 lety +2

    It’s hilarious the poor Grippen doesn’t even know what hit it

  • @albertmax9662
    @albertmax9662 Před 2 lety +9

    Given the two main versions of the Gripen are the JAS-39C and JAS-39E. Both are significantly different, this simulation is just a guess of performance of one of those. For every 100 hours of flight time in a F-22, the Gripen can afford 700 hours.

    • @zulupox
      @zulupox Před 2 lety

      So 7 Gripen vs 1 F-22?

    • @-_deploy_-
      @-_deploy_- Před 2 lety +3

      @@zulupox no. A gripen can fly 7x more than a F-22

    • @zulupox
      @zulupox Před 2 lety

      @@-_deploy_- Ah okay!

  • @wiskadjak
    @wiskadjak Před 2 lety +11

    In a late model Gripen you should be able to shoot him using the helmet site & Iris T. Technically, you could shoot over your shoulder.

    • @Dramigbaklanges
      @Dramigbaklanges Před 2 lety +7

      I think the 39 got this capability in 2009, so irl the 39 would have fire within seconds with lock-on-after-launch and the raptor would have a hard time escaping the Iris-t.
      But a Raptor would probably never end up in this situation in the first place.

    • @matso3856
      @matso3856 Před 2 lety

      @@Dramigbaklanges It was even more recent then that (not counting the 1 test airframe) it went into production 2019.

  • @juanortegon9898
    @juanortegon9898 Před 2 lety

    Great videos, great content. Amazing knowledge of airplane and missile performance. Highly enjoy your videos.

  • @tnh723
    @tnh723 Před 2 lety

    this game is dream come true. your footage is beautiful

  • @Banzaj33
    @Banzaj33 Před 2 lety +4

    Awesome video as always. What was the song used for the external post fight clips?

  • @anmordal-swe2203
    @anmordal-swe2203 Před 2 lety +6

    Gripen is designed for long distance engagement. Basically if you see the enemy aircraft you are way too close.

  • @radioactive9861
    @radioactive9861 Před 2 lety

    I really liked the music for this video, GS. 👍

  • @Anthony-66
    @Anthony-66 Před 2 lety +1

    Jas 39 pilot:Oh no I'm going down ejecting *Offlines*