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ArcheAge Unchained P2W Is Gone, But...
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- We revisited Archeage unchained after 2 1/2 years and a change in publishers once more. The p2w is gone completely in game..but where's the population?
0:00 - Intro
1:45 - Current Gameplay Loop
10:15 - Manastorm Starvation
16:00 - Gear Progression Creep
23:00 - Closing
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#archeage #archeageunchained #kakaogames
Edit Note: I said Black Dragon twice but I meant Red Dragon, the instance event 😅
Did you see that Dragon?
Great explanation, as the 'event age' is exactly why I quit after returning for ArcheAge Unchained a few years ago. The magic of the AA sandbox was lost.
ArcheAge has broken my Soul and after many Rehabs i can say now that i don't give a fuck about this game anymore and i only think about the good memories when the game was actually good.
stay strong! never look back
I miss the 3.0 slow gear progressions with regrading and crafting that brought life to the game and economy
If you just removed hiram and made erenor the natural progression of the game, youd have a much healthier economy. Erenor demands a ton of mats from the community.
It was still shit because of whales.
Everything could have sense without whales and the territory gold income.
@@toughbama yes, erenor demands a ton of mats, mats that whales can buy with their RMT gold :)
@@S33k3R7 I mean f2p players directly benefit from that situation though? Idc where the gold comes from.
@@toughbama How do F2P players benefit from someone buying gold with real money from gold farmers? Tbh ur entire comment just makes me wanna not respond lol.
Man seeing that plaza with only 3 people running around is really sad :(
RIP
Crazy looking at this game that I played for so many year and was massively addicted to it, it was super p2w, fun, and kinda looked like an abusive relationship, always dying and being revived, until it became an eternal wasteland of farmville and dailies.
First month was just packed with various dupes since Kakao launched their first fresh start. Kind of killed the buzz. Playerbase have slowly given up on official AA servers because of how they've been treated with multiple fresh start launches all featuring the same dupes, same mindless daily grind and usually same p2w shop in some form or another (nowadays just incentivized to swipe gold from RMT)
Private starts launch on better patches of the game with dupes removed and actual in-game moderation to catch out scripters, potential bots and being on old versions of the game all the sandbox mechanics like crafting, pirating, trade packs, planting/farming trees and other things that made AA fun.
Kakao just waiting for ArcheAge2.
AA could have been up there with FF and WoW but no;...
Archeage breaks my heart. It feels like nobody cares that we lost such an amazing game. This current progression system has less creativity than most phone games. There were hundreds of paths forward before, now there’s only one.
Thanks for the video, although I would be far more upset about what has changed. I used to fight you in auroria over waters all the time. Current AA is an abomination and AA2 seems to be following the trend. Big Sad
This.. BTW don't try archeworld ull wanna kick a puppy
Thanks for reminding me why I don't want to come back to the game
Loved archeage. The biggest draw for me when it came to unchained was pay once and play which was fantastic because I’m a poor kid. When they switched over to sub I really didn’t see a reason to invest into a game that I would be locked out of if I couldn’t pay. Went legacy which was great but than kakao stole my money. Don’t know if anyone remembers that but they stole everyone’s money and put all of it into a different currency which was limited. Because kakao messed up they took all credit they gave and what you paid for and put it in this currency. Than there was all the new servers and all the merges, land rush that I didn’t have time for, and the endless grinding. Ugh, the grinding was the worse. I want to log on and have fun with guild not spend five hours grinding.
Does anyone remember that library used to have 3 floors and on the map between 2nd and 3rd floor was this amazingly beautiful star-filled night sky, and a maze that spanned into the horizon?
I can't find any video or image with this map...
Been playing ArcheRage (Private Server). It feels more like when Unchained came out which was a decently fun time. I'm still hoping for AA Genesis but in the mean time I'm just playing Rage because tbh other MMO's still aren't as fun to me as Archeage.
I just started playing the AA classic private server that just came out. Not sure if they'll run it well, but just in case you wanted to know!
@@whitemale1725I quit rage the second I found classic been loving it so far. Some hiccups but the admins seem like they're trying 😅
Most of the mounts and gliders, etc. in the Manastorm shop should have been world boss drops. But XL has only removed special drops from world bosses. Which obviously just makes it so people really aren't interested in doing them at all. Further fueling the deathly feeling of the game overall. On this subject, they also need a refund store if you have double mounts/gliders/boats/etc. that can give back a percentage of your manastorms in case you receive or buy more. Leaving this up to the support ticket system shouldn't be the way.
Gear crafting still happens. Hot tip. Stop pursuing Hiram gear, pursue the multiple crafts required to produce the more powerful Erenor equipment. I leveled my character around Magnificent gear, now I am Epherium and am stowing matt's to make Delphinad. It's an awesome journey leveling with crafting in mind. I definitely recommend it. Have fun! But be prepared for hard mode.
ah yes, and by the time you are at max grade erenor maybe the game will still have one other player for you to give a reach around :)
Im surprised people still play this. I was in Alpha until 2014, then back every freaking fresh start. Until I stopped caring in 2017, I came back for unchained but quit after a month it was too grindy for a casual player ,it was love and hate abusive relationships. Thank God Im healed. I'll probably check AA2
it'll at least be gorgeous to explore the world in UE5!
The beauty of the game is that it is very hard to succeed.
Look how they massacre my boy...... Just let it die finally... Stop animate this zombie.....
As a person that never played Archeage and is currently looking to get on any available MMORPG were to have fun I can answer for my point of view why the game is not more popular if everything you said is true!
All information out there just shit on what happened to the game and hardly will anyone even get the opportunity to find a video like this without mentioning that anyone even trying to give a try will just jump to the free version and realize is utter dead and drop again.
I have months looking for any decent MMORPG out there and I only find this video almost by luck and because I was looking specifically for Archeage unchained and even so I feel hesitant to even pay the $10 to just find is as dead as the normal archeage server @_@
I miss AA Unchained. Since I'm a carebear and don't like pvp I might come back
I just started this game and everything feels like its too much... I really wish I had someone to handhold me through it because I've watched several videos and I comprehend 0 of wtf to do about gear and everything
Note: The change into sub model actually had us lose players but then new content came out and they 3x'd player base for only 3 months then there were less players then before. The new content must of not been all that great I guess.
ZZav there is any news about ArcheAge II??
It's the players that spent thousands and thousands of real life money into the game...for what? Making people quit so you can play game by yourself.
Still love the game but yeah made mythic hiram because i just always wanted mythic gear and noped out when they took away the fuckload of cash shop currency they accidentally gave everyone , a lof of what are now weekly quests were all daily quests too when i last played and heaven forbid you are not NA you miss the 1 big clear sweep that happens you described ; when it started to loose popularity they should have started making more 5 man content thats fun and can scale , i like how gear stats work especially levelling up rolling stats on gear but i feel like they still have some stuff to learn about what people want to do at endgame not tricking players into a mindless daily grind.
ya the big issue there as well in terms of content design is KR players approach the game so much differently than NA/EU.
"A BIT TO LATE "
You can't just change the model with characters whom are already 18k gs now thrown into the new server without there being some problems. Imagine now seeing the monthly sub model and wanting to come back but your characters is 10k. It's now going to take you a longer time to get stronger since you have money for the subscription you could have bought gold instead and people don't tend to play if there is no way to catch up to those ahead of them whom could have and most likely bought their way there but now you are not aloud to do what they did to gain an advantage over you. Obviously you have money because you are willing to pay the subscription but $10-$20 worth of gold can actually be a lot of gold as there are people who are willing to play this game all day just to make a few bucks because they live in a foreign country and that's a lot to them.
Now the people who are 18k gs don't really have fun if there isn't other people to fight and/or new content being released. Personally I think the change was to late and the developers should have focused on new content but the devs also probably ran out of money since it was more fun to spend money on gold then it was to say buy a costume that you could get cheaply with gold since they are tradable. So now we have an underpopulated server(s) which hurts the devs income which hurts new content releases which has just snowballed out of control to now a steam chart of just 22 players on average and double that, 44, for peak players playing compared to 2019 being 1k-4k with a 2k-7k peak.
Overall it's an odd situation that people don't really want to be in, as the numbers show, and to me I would classify the game as "dead". At least it may be good for Archeage 2 when that comes out as people will be used to the subscription based pay and everyone can start out on a new foot with unique content and people who are brand new to the game don't feel like they are just going to get out paced by someone who has done a fresh start say 5+ times or say someone who has been playing the game for 10+ years and knows everything there is to know about the game because it will be all new.
Until then ~ TheZman
F in the chat for Archeage.
Its too late.
I definitely feel that if they wanted that then it should of started as a sub. But if they chose to do so they should have either given a specific amount of free sub months to those who had to buy the game originally from what I've seen so far the biggest complaints towards them have been the fact that people bought the initial game under the impression that it would be a one time buy and done then it got switched now had they taken the time to reimburse those people with their monetary sub amount they could continue to gain income through this method and also give those who spent income originally and given them a chance to get into the motion of the new system. Thats what I feel anyhow like with ffxiv I started with a free standing of the game and then a subscription in which I recieved 3 months free of ffxiv subs for what I spent on it. So it may work for them here
I used to love logging in to do morning Mistmerrow raid. To the point that I'd be genuinely upset if I overslept and missed it. Now I wake up and there's nothing to do unless I want to play farmville. Then I hear the old stories of Kraken fights going all night. People fighting over Kraken, going to bed then waking up to rejoin the Kraken fight. All I can do is wonder why people complained about that system.
Then there's the fact that gear has progressed to the point that Kraken is just a soft "meh" -level threat. Not to mention new players aren't even a viable threat at all. Which is a massively idiotic setup for something claiming to be a pvp game. In order to be considered a pvp game, Newbies should be able to fresh install the game create a new account and immediately start competing with long-time players. The way it is now, a new player can find an afk old player and spend 5 minutes trying to kill them only to have them come back and accidentally hit the auto attack button and kill the new player in half an attack animation. This was mitigated somewhat by high destruction chance in gear but since gear is almost fully free to upgrade now, this issue has spiraled way out of control to the point where it's not a game and even more power spike is being added as we speak. Most players just blow this issue off because "It's easy to progress. Just no life for 3 months or casual for 3 years, EZ lul" No. Kraken and other world bosses should be an existential threat to all players. Any player should be able to beat any other player the main determining factor should be skill. We need a power creep collapse back to humbler times and it needs to happen now.
And for the love of all that is holy, fix the Ocleera quest and put some decent rewards on it. What is it now? 4 years since that content has just sat completely unused?
Well Kraken being up for like 48 hours and such was a bit much for many... as it basically became a requirement for people to be ULTRA sweaty and respond to middle of the night discord all call pings for contesting etc.
But the currect ONE HOUR window it has is definitely lame :(
Daily quests were my biggest issue with unchained
The original daily quest slog of hiram and what not is gone and thats a big plus.. it's just so much progress is garnered by these timed events that have quests affiliated with them, that it's still a tedious process :(
problem is alt age, needs 3..0 progression systems without hiram and to make alts bannable. AA classic is basically doing all of that
In a big way, it is positive that people gathered around some content even if it is reset events. When you stretch a few people over a 24h period and huge map you get empty game, but when those players have something to do as in focused content they can feel the game is alive. Only implementations that would matter that i asked for years ago is to improve the importance of housing zones, farming, and crafting overall and bring back life inside those zones. People do not plant anymore, and zones look dead, therefore game looks dead.
Kakao allows more than 3 alt accounts on unchained, so swipe and pay to win again (more accounts, more land, more labor = more gold). kakao f'd up the game so much, newer players cannot "catch up" even on a "catch up FS server" LMAO. Kakao AAU is also an alt account management simulator =P.
Everyone is playing in private server, the best server
Archerage is like legacy doesn't change anything, it's another lie. You must keep doing dailies, and hiram because the game is just that.
@@marianahacker1194 daylies/ weeklies are for you to progress your gear tho, i mean u can go full erenor and dont do any daily stuff xd
@@TheAmazingXizde to make full erenor you need a lot of money and be at least p2w, if that were the case many players would have erenor.
@@marianahacker1194 actually many players have it lol, just look at rankings
@@TheAmazingXizde P2w players only, without spending nada to get full erenor would be impossible, there can be 100 people in full erenor all of them spent money in the game, no matter the version this game is p2w and always will be, archeage 2 will become considerably bankrupt in 2 months.
I just want archeage 2!!
SoonTM
I think most players also just quitted cuz they were dissapointed in kakao games...
No one is going to pay every month just to access a video game. Sub fees are still p2w for most people
yeap, Im not playing. Thanks. Will wait on a new MMMO worth playing...Still waiting years later lol
game is just currently outdated, archeage 2 might bring the game back
yea lie i said we need a Classic archeage stay for ever in 2.9 or alpha
Combine both legacy and unchained and make it unchained style
i quit that cause of monthly payment....
The logic of manastorm shop is simple menthal handicaped idea. Instead of FARM IT IN GAME ECONOMY you will get every "BiS" lifes skill things in log in shop. This is madnesss... and annoying. Economy and the game are dead because everything is out of in-game system. Most of consumables removed. Basic buffs and food are nin NPC shop. Rest of the rests have extreme low proficiency limit AND you can buy cheap "skip proficiency" scroll in manashop. You don't craft best gliders, mounts, cars, houses, farms... you BUY it. So.. nobody craft and nobody sell things.
I wish we could turn in trade packs for manastorm :D
@@ZZav Manastrorm trade pack to BUY "high-end" items in shop is not a solution. Shop is "out of game economy". It will not keep potato guys or crafter maniacs in this game. This item types had/have real good space in game system: farming something (gildas, kyrios badges, honor, vocation) to get rare design, than spend insane amount of normal or rare resources to craft your dream mount/glider//ship/costume. If you invest your time and energy you will get something. This system feeds many different players: gilda farmers, honor farmers, gathering maniacs, processing guys, crafters...
"Spend 1 hour in game" or "spend labor" or "earn honor" or "do something 0 effort thing" to BUY high-end items in shop is a dark joke. Its taunt the player. Its like building management title or other cash shop item alternatives in game crafting system: they are/were in game to make you miserable and to sell cash shop version of same items. If the game is non p2w developers should FIX this recipes and the should integrate cash shop items to crafting system maybe.
PVP game without pvp - that's why the game will struggle matter what
Well there's actually plenty of pvp. We pvp at yny/cinder war. Aegis, whalesong, JMG, halcyona etc. Its just only reset raid zerg pvp. There's no skirmish or small scale form pvp anymore.
so they get rid of p2w, then decide to merge both versions of the game into one massive p2w ruined by the toxic pvp guilds that love bullying grandmothers and newbies. the game has officially been killed off, because only the no lifers are there now.
Forget it man. Awesome game. Terrible administration... AA2 is not so close...so...lets see what ashes of creaton or project Tl have to offer
they should just release archeage classic with a sub.
If AA2 wasn't around the corner, id say they really should have looked into this.
the problem here is that would require MASSIVE dev reworking cause lets be honest, those patches were BROKEN to all hell with exploits and dupes and would need a ton of fixing before being put live.
Play on the private server and save your time.
Legacy has became very toxic on nuia side because of 5 big guilds run the whole NA on archeage and if you aint 16k 18k your not able to be in ANY content its sad and imo they need banned but theyve destoryed the game destoryed the game for potatos archeage is focused around PVP ONLY now so once ArcheAge 2 releases DISASTER will kill it as well so thats why ive moved on from this game its toxic and id rather be in a toxic fortnite or call of duty lobby then be in pvp on archeage.
Anybody mention how archeworld is trash?
rip coinpurse farming
Its too late
Essentially that as well. I meant to say that at the beginning but totally forgot. A lot of things are a "its too late, damage is done" feeling for people.
Especially after the initial Unchained launch issues.