The Panasonic S9 is Small, Pretty, and Utterly Baffling
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The Panasonic Lumix S9 is the most affordable option for photographers and videographers looking to get into the full-frame L-Mount. The body is incredibly small but still boasts nice specs. Sacrifices needed to be made though, and we were concerned there might be a few too many. Check out our review from the streets of Osaka and Kyoto to find out if this is the right camera for you!
Disclosure: Panasonic provided PetaPixel with travel and accommodations for the purposes of this video. It had no input on content and all opinions shared are those of PetaPixel.
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0:00 - Intro
1:57 - Design and controls
4:04 - Sensor
6:51 - Sample Images
8:52 - LUTs for photography
13:25 - Video
20:22 - How it compares
21:45 - Who is it for?
#lumixs9 #panasonics9 - Věda a technologie
I'm not the target audience for the S9, but I can watch Chris and Jordan review a slice of bread for 15 minutes.
Let's hope they slice a bread with S9 next time
In the same club 😂😂
Ha. I feel the same way. they’re so good.
Chris is wearing a hand strap!?
Same here. My next purchase will be a Panasonic microwave, not S9, but I'm just enjoying watching every Chris and Jordan's camera gear reviews.
19:32 Look it's Lok! Absolute legend.
Definitely. Happy to see him and Kai back together recently
Lok it's Lut 😜
8:03 Hi Lok! in the back there!
The man should do voice work, British James Earl Jones.
Wow, cold shoe, no shutter, no evf, heavy banding. Panasonic were so close to getting this thing right but the fumbled it imo. And in ways that can't be fixed in firmware....I went from excited to not caring so fast. I guess I'm not the target market for this thing...
I feel the same. So close, but not quite there...
I feel the same 😢
The L mount street beast remains elusive.
Good god so many deal breakers. What was in theory a system seller and would sell like gang busters , is now a crippled mess. I was hovering over the buy button till I saw this. Utterly baffled. Ready to sell my a7c but even the x100vi is better all round performer. Sad. I looooove the look of Panasonic files.
S9 would be such an amazing camera for adopting manual lenses if there were a mechanical shutter
23:04 looking at the imaginary view finder had me crying!!!! Benj is funny!
Lol
The amount of times that I did that unironically on this trip was… significant ;)
that fed up hand wave was the cherry on top XD
@@benjhaisch lol I can imagine but we’ll see what happens in the future! I believe that they will drop a S9R with a view fonder one day. If I’m correct Lumix holds the patent for ND filters in mirrorless cameras and hasn’t resealed one yet. I’m confident they know how to work with that space of a body. They just chose not to Do that as to compete with their next generation of S1 series cameras.
Looks like a giant Panasonic GM-1. I wish they had made an updated GM-1 or GM-5 instead for micro four thirds - on that sensor size and with those lenses, compactness can truly be achieved.
I think the problem is it wouldn't be that much cheaper as an M43 and thus harder to sell. Would you pay 800 for this camera in M43? It seems designed for the cell phone crowd anyway.
Always a critic, who knows! Maybe a GM-1 camera is next!
@@robojimtvbro i'd even heist a bank if they release a new GM5, a compact MFT with tilting screen and EVF. With 20mp MFT and all the latest tech they have, it would be a beast of a street photography camera. Slap it with a 300mm short reflex lens and you can pretend you are a secret agent.
@@robojimtvm43 sensors are much cheaper to produce than full frame sensors since its 1/4 the size. Plus it requires less power meaning lighter battery and with a much smaller body you can save more on materials making it an awesome travel camera
@@robojimtvYes. People pay 500 bucks for the GM5 now. I would pay 1400 for this on micro four thirds
Woof, electronic shutter only with the S5II sensor speed is certainly a choice. This feels like a fairly weird competitor to the Sigma fp.
Good way of putting it. 👍
@@MrWiseinheartAt least the Sigma has an accessory EVF. Mine shoots excellent stills and video. Wouldn’t trade it for this.
@@ChrisWhittenMusic true, plus it's actually smaller too right?, and since the fp L came out, the previous model can be had for fairly cheap.
@@MrWiseinheart Yeah and weather-sealed too. There's something oddly beautiful about the fp too - it's quirky and cool, and often overlooked. A future fp model with a stacked sensor and a flippy screen would get me even more excited 🤤
@@robert_mayi think there is some modification (inofficial, diy style, of course) that allows to flip the screen on the fp.
There's a lut to ponder with this new camera
I'd rather have a feature rich 4:3 camera than a severely crippled full frame one.
Then buy a GH7 or even a G9.
Whoah guys you said "baffling" in your video title. Say goodbye to those sweet Panasonic trips, you are Lumix-cancelled bros!!
yep, according to Gerald! Is Baffling worse than STRANGE?!
lol
For those coming here after Gerald Undone's video, I'm in the same boat. Just curious how a lot of the top camera channels approached this. Without doubt, I knew Chris and Jordan would NOT hold back. They obviously didn't "fluff" this review. It was pretty brutally honest and not glowing. They even gave 3 different cameras as options over this one. You can tell by most of the comments here that their points against this camera were made clearly.
I feel Gerald made some VERY solid points as to why we should change the way reviews are handled regarding these embargo/influencer trips for product launches. It really puts the pressure on up and coming reviewers to "toe the line" but I can always count on Chris and Jordan to buck that. They made their bread and butter by NOT toeing the line and just telling it like they see it. Kudos guys! Great job.
Thank you for bringing this video so fast!
So good to see you guys still doing videos. Was sad when I heard they closed down peta pixel. Glad you guys are back. Wishing you all the best :D
Always look forward to these CZcamsr gathering events. It’s nice seeing all the cameos and guest appearances
They should have just made a gm5 successor. New mft sensor, add ibis, add the luts. Keep the evf and the mechanical shutter. That would be a killer camera because of the smaller lenses. It would be the best compact camera to date.
Jordan really nailed this video, shooting handheld with such a small camera. The video looks excellent, regardless of gear.
6:57 - that black and white profile looks amazing.
agreed :)
L monochrome is the key reason I get into Lumix.... Now they have an even better Leica monochrome.....
I’m still enjoying my LUMIX GX85…it’s more than enough camera for 99% of people whether they’d like to admit it or not. Nice to see Panasonic still creating these beautiful cameras.
I genuinely think 90% of people going for a Fujifilm X100VI or Ricoh GRIII could easily live with the GX85 or GX850 tbh
@@-grey And if you put pana-leica 15mm lens on it essentially becomes a poor man's leica q
No kidding. It has dual dials, evf, hot shoe.
@@-grey I thought that until I bought the GX85 and saw the disaster that is the EVF. Returned it very quickly.
Same here! And I also have the GX7, which I love even more from an ergonomics standpoint. How did the entire internet get brainwashed into thinking you need FF for creators, when their output is only CZcams, TikTok, and Instagram!
Big Panasonic fan here, but I'm confused as to who Panasonic consulted when r&ding this camera. You said that Panasonic was aiming at photographers as well as videographers, and serious stills photographers have been crying out for a new compact form factor (GX9, GM5, GX85 etc), but the lack of stills features is almost a write-off. The live LUTs is a great idea, and some of those in-camera profiles looked good, but I'm left puzzled as to who this camera is aimed at. Sadly, it's not me.
If they want 1400 dollars from me they can release a gm5ii. Actually it would be 4200. I'd purchase 3. 2 for dual camera shooting, and a third as a backup. I've run my entire photography business, making 200k a year, off GM5s entirely since they released!
@@cheeeeezewizzz I love my GM5. That's why I like Panasonic, it knows how to cram good technology into small cameras.
I just love the look of the files. Detail that isn’t too much that it’s distracting or irritating. Amazing
Until companies start releasing sub 600 dollars cameras. No one is going to go mainstream. People like to take photos. But they already have 800 dollar phones. The first company to release a compelling 600 dollar camera is going to become huge in the long run. This is not it. Targeting TikTokers with a 1500 camera is just dumb. Absolutely dumb.
True. That's what made Nikon D3500 (or 3000 series as a whole) legendary. They went big money and they forgot what makes them there.
I disagree. Tons of tiktok creators are getting the expensive Sony models for their creation... this will be a compelling option, but with some drawbacks
@@nickguzman1734this is true. People moan about any Leica camera…and these ‘creators’ will blow thousands and thousands of dollars a few times a year buying new Sony cameras, lenses, etc.
@@nickguzman1734 wrong, there's not even a ton of successful TikToks/creators to warrant a 1500 video camera that's not geared for professionals. Like the ZV line from Sony. It's also not geared for photographers at all, and is the ugliest camera in the market besides the black so it can't even compete with the X100vi, which is what they should have aimed with a small form factor full frame at 1500 usd.
@lomelyo you obviously haven't seenthe sheer amount of influencers using the a7s3. It's OK to admit you don't know what you're talking about
oh well never mind!
It looks super cool, I just want a M43 version at half the price.
The LUT's option is something we have needed for years, I hope there's an option to add luts via SD card as phone apps tend to brake after a few years.
The Crushed Retro profile essentially turns the S9 into a Pentax K-01 for video
Nice video guys, just off to download Chris's LUTs now...
Buy him a coffee so he doesn't feel totally ripped off 😁
@@AdamJRichardson hey, I'M the guy who asks for a coffee!
This camera proves for the umpteenth time that companies have NO CLUE what we want from this market segment.
Exactly!!!
Who is we? I want it
@@LumixGang well you are an admitted fanboy by name, so go nuts, bud
Ahh, the old “Royal We”. The reality is that Panasonic know what old curmudgeons want, but they also know that said old curmudgeons don’t really buy compact bodies like this one. They buy the big beefy S5, A7IV and R6 ones because they include everything and the kitchen sink. The kids who will consider an S9 have *vastly* different priorities and interests.
@@Ildskalli I am one of the people who was excited for this camera, being a Lumix GX series shooter this was right up my alley. No EVF and no mech shutter is a huge dealbreaker for me so idk
As someone who has been shooting with the S1H for a few years and was considering buying an S5IIX for a little while for vlogging and that sort of thing, honestly this looks like a great B-Cam and for if I ever decide to get into vlogging or need something to put in a difficult location.
This thing has a fantastic FF sensor, best in the business IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K open gate, 4K 60P in 4:2:2 10 bit and the fantastic LUT feature from the S5II, all in a compact and lightweight body. This is a filmmaker's dream run and gun/B roll cam. Its a lot more capable than just a "vlogging" cam lol
I just sold my little GX85 that was my trusty "C- Cam" the last 6 years and will probably scoop up one of these when they hit $1,000 used. Gaining full frame, anamorphic, PDAF and IBIS will be amazing coming from a little m43 camera that was already punching way above its weight.
@michaelbell75 No full sized HDMI, difficult to rig form factor, no mechanical heat regulation, no audio monitoring, no hot shoe, etc, etc. Recording modes are one thing, but when there's cameras out there that more than fulfill those requirements already, I'm not gonna take the hit on IO and form factor.
@@patrickmeyer2802 well that’s why they have the S5IIx. There are plenty of hybrid shooters like myself who couldn’t care less about any of that. We just want an affordable compact and lightweight FF camera with great specs. We finally have one.
@michaelbell75 and did I ever say that you had to use it as a B? No, I said that that's what I would be using it for. Some people can absolutely not worry about those issues, but unfortunately in the work I do, I can't.
Thank you for your evaluation, Chris and Jordan.
Amazing review~! Thank you for telling me so well about the pros and cons!
It was an absolute pleasure meeting you guys in person! Great video, guys! Well done. 😎
Absolutely love the look of this thing, and I'd by it immediately if it had an EVF (and ideally a mech shutter and a tilt screen). Since it doesn't, I'll be picking up a nice green one used in five or so years.
What you are describing is the S5IIX which is only 500 more :)
Absolutely excellent review! Jordan has taken the video quality a step above... Well Done!
Thank you for this review!
I love the LUT features and how in depth it goes.
I can finally make my own style and shoot in it. And compose my shot for the contrast and exposure of the LUT.
Very nice
Mmmm was pretty excited about it until no EVF.
Great to see different options coming out. Not for me, but happy to see companies looking in different directions! :)
Chris, great photos this review!
21:09 custom grade: the colors look so warm and good! Best colors of the entire video!
Little L Mount bundle of joy.
THE LITTLEEEEEE ELLLLLLLLL MOOOOOOUNNT ALLIAAAAAANNCEEEEEEEEEE
great shots Taken through this tiny body! well done!
Really enjoyed your review !
As someone still rocking a GX8 as a light, easy to pack camera, I was super excited when the rumors for this camera came out. Unfortunately, I don't know if this is going to be the replacement I was hoping for.
They missed a trick! New gx or lx camera is required! Full frame for a small pocketable camera is dumb as hell!
The content you made with it all looked really nice. However, I think it's really expensive for what it is and it lacks the kind of controls I'd want as a photographer. I'm not sure whether there are small form factor lenses for this system in the same way as on M43 from Panasonic and Olympus. Nice review, thanks and you've save me from wasting any more time thinking about this model.
I love the option for small rangefinder sized cameras as a backup to a DSLR brick, even if I have t give up some features. I remember the tiny Lumix GM1. So awesome, so convenient for a 2nd camera.
Very comprehensive review for a launch video. I can't see how you'd make it any better. Well done. You've put lots of work into this, and not just sat around in the hotel lobby.
Probably Panasonic would not like this, but I decided to skip the Lumix Livestream and come here instead for the S9 news.
They will be devastated.
They might never recover.
BFD.
Why would they care exactly?
Where was the live stream announced?
The camera seems ok, but it has to be said that your street photography and videography is on point! You walked away with some definite keepers there. There's a lot to be said for having a camera compact enough that you can take it everywhere.
Thank you so much! It’s hard not to feel inspired in Japan!
Thank you so much! It’s hard not to feel inspired in Japan!
Loving the Chris presets! Very crunchy.
17:00 Don't forget that the Sigma fp L introduced the Crop-Zoom with twenty-six increments of the 61mp sensor -- which allows for 5x or so on HD, as I recall. I'm very pleased to see this on Lumix -- especially when a high-resolution camera with mechanical shutter comes through. Having said that, I loved the GM5 and the X100, and this goes to the next level in L-mount.
Perfect pronunciation of Kyoto. I thank you as a Japanese native. 🙏 and thank you for your review as always super informative!
I can’t speak Japanese very well unfortunately but I can certainly pronounce it. I even named my middle son Ryuma which as you know, is a tricky one.
Which time? He said it different ways at different spots in the video.
Always a joy to see you guys!
Incredible how much the Kyoto / Japan backdrop adds to everything. GREAT video as always.
Great review. Love the look of the S9.
The last time I saw a cold shoe was on an ancient Pentax film camera, and it had an x sync socket on the camera body to connect the flash to.
Nice Beginner Camera ...
If it had an EVF and a price of $799
Youre joking right? This thing has a fantastic FF sensor, best in the business IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K open gate, 4K 60P in 4:2:2 10 bit and the fantastic LUT feature from the S5II, all in a compact and lightweight body. This is a filmmaker's dream run and gun/B roll cam. The Sony fanboys are so mad right now lol
@michaelbell75 you must be mad by insinuating that everbody whonis critical on camera is Sony Fanboy... (bad case of Projection on your behalve🧠)
Been a Lumix Photographer since 2015 and will stay that but when I buy a new Lunix not an S9....I llove tge looks love the size but... Like the Idea with LUTs....
But no EVF is a NO GO for me
@@PeterVlutters Cinema cameras dont have EVFs, you are clearly not a filmmaker. Buy an S5II.
@@michaelbell75 MODERN cinema cameras dont have EVFs, and a ton of professionals still use them, they just dont come with the camera anymore lol. And yeah, I'd buy any other brand camera over this one because ANY of them would be better for $1,500. I love Panny but this release sucks...
@@pringleboat really? Who else makes a compact and lightweight FF sensor camera with excellent IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K 60p in 4:2:2 10 bit with advanced features like waveform and vectorscope for $1,500? I’ll wait….
Thank you for the honest review.
Great to see Jordan back reviewing video functions
I will go onto every S9 vid and shamelessly preach for a GX9ii, a compact m43 camera with PDAF and the generous Lumix video features (plus all that fun cheap glass), it would be the perfect "carry it just in case" camera.
Exactly!!!
100% they did not read the room! LX100mk3 with PDAF high read out speeds etc etc people would have eaten that up! And a GX camera in the same vain for interchangeable format
gm5 succcessor, not the stupid gx9. That thing is too freaking massive.
Agreed.
@@cheeeeezewizzz why stupid?
No EVF is breaks the deal for me. Hopefully Panasonic will make and S9ii or S9EVF sooner rather than later because I would instantly buy that.
That being said Lumix Lab is going to absolutely revolutionize LUTs. I’m super excited for this.
So great seeing you guys! Great video.
Thanks for the great review. Including a mic jack but omitting a headphone jack seems like an incredible oversight. Hopefully, they can offer a firmware upgrade and offer audio monitoring via the USB port. I hope they come out with a similar camera in micro 4/3 as a successor to the GM1.
all these small jokes like on 19:20 and 19:47 are what make these videos by the duo always enjoyable even tho quite information dense XD
Lovely preview, but where is the full Zf review, i am lusting for it. Oh and as been said, S9 as mft would be a buy, if it gets an evf
Footage and images came out great!
The video looks really excellent, better than usual in my opinion. Maybe Jordans new camera? Or did you use other lenses than usual? Looks different.
Wonderful video as ever! Was such a pleasure spending time with you both in Osaka. And I think a very balanced and informative view on Real Time LUT. I think, if people give it a chance it can be so powerful! But Lumix havent helped themselves with the techy naming, and various methods you can come at RTL in-camera
Loved meeting you finally Emily!!! Big fan of your channel. Hopefully we will run into each other again someday.
The cameos from @whoismatt have me rolling 🤣👏🏻 LOL
Love the LUT approach, hope we get better colour tools in all cameras
I have an Olympus (OM System) E-P7 and absolutely adore the in-built colour profiles (the same ones as seen on the legendary PEN-F, and similar to Fujifilm film simulations). As a parent, I don't really have the time to spend editing my raw files, so I shoot raw+jpg, with the raw as a backup and the colour-modified jpg for instant sharing with my family (who live overseas).
The ability to share and edit the LUTs via an app is a genius move.
So I think there is definitely a market for the in-built creative photography modes seen in this camera, and I'm excited to see how they evolve (and if OM System follow suit).
However, given the small body, I don't understand why this isn't a Micro Four Thirds camera: the smaller lenses of that system would be ideal for its tiny body.
Seems like the S9 is to the S5ii what the X-T50 is to the X-T5.
Also we have another stab at Fuji but this time in the "Film Simulations" and "recipes" area.
Oh, and I am not sure if Chris' Neopan 640 is actually good, or if it's enhanced by Jordan's looks.
Seems to me that the S9 is priced WAY too close to the S5-II. Just spend a little bit more and get a WAY better camera. I don't get why this camera exists unless it's much cheaper than this. Go S5-II or S5-IIX and forget this S9. Buy the S5-IIX and you will NOT regret it! (buy the S9 and I think you will)
Cool. I will most likely stay on the X100vi waiting list. As a photographer, I like that tactile process.
Nice to see you guys at Portland’s Japanese Garden!
It was a pleasure to see you guys again :)
So good exploring with you guys!
You were wonderful! Great to meet you and shoot together!
I was really pumped about this camera in the lead up. But now I sort of feel deflated.
I am ok with some compromises like no mechanical shutter and no built in EVF.
The problems I have are basically ones you covered:
- no weather resistance / sealing: I really think weather sealing is essential for this to be viewed as travel cameras. Dirt, sand, rain, snow, splashing, sandy wind etc are likely events or conditions on many holidays.
- recording limits: surely they will fix these?!? Crazy stuff. Makes me wonder whether Canon’s R5 marketing manager moved to Lumix…
- Headphone Jack omission. I’m sure there will be a LUMIX’s design engineering saying something like ‘but you don’t understand how little room there is inside…’. Too bad. Don’t care. Just fix it on the Mark II version.
- No hotshoe: does ‘S’ in S9 stand for Spotmatic?
- No hotshoe accessory EVF (flows from the lack of a hotshoe, obviously…).
- Full sized HDMI. If you need an Atomos Ninja to overcome record limits and monitor audio then the full HDMI helps.
I totally agree with the view that this should have been a full frame GX9 with contemporary specs. But it isn’t unfortunately. I was 100% sure I’d get this camera. Not now.
Hopefully a MFT version will redress the limitations and likewise a Mark II S9.
Regardless the S9 will be great for some creators. The disappointment is it could have been great for almost ALL creators looking for a small package.
Jordan I tip my hat to you. You filmed this beautifully and great edit too! Nevermind the camera, really made me want to visit Japan and try some Saki. The color, everything looked great! Hope you guys had a blast.
One thing that I thought that you maybe was forgotten (with the lack of joystick) is that the lumix bodies have this nice touch to focus as well as a sliding gesture to move the cursor around the screen. I suspect it was ported from the S5ii to the S9. If so, it’s a very nice workaround to the lack of joystick.
I hope this will push Sony a bit towards a RX3
or at the minimum a firmware update for the RX1 lol
@@rmccorma we can still dream
Its ironic how crippled this thing is because of the large sensor.
It would been brilliant as a M43 camera.
I'm pretty sure, the next is a MFT camera. Look at the timeline from the recent cameras
S5 > GH6 > S5II/X > G9II > S9 > ¿Next is GX10?
They dance between MFT and FF sensor with their releases. So I'm pretty sure it will be a MFT, but not sure if it's gonna be a GX or a GH. There's potential and demand for a GX10 or GH6II, both with PDAF and killer stab.
@@edvelfilms
Rumours all strongly suggest G100M2 to be the next camera that will use the G9M2 sensor with PDAF and open gate mode.
So far the rumours have all been correct about the S9 and its awful 26mm lens also the compact zoom lens. So who knows? The G100 is definitely a camera that could use some redemption.
@@SMGJohn I would rather get a LX100 Mark 3 than that... but well.
@@edvelfilms
Well you are in luck, cause that was DEFINITELY confirmed to be arriving but first as a Leica exclusive, and then we will get LX100M3, I am definitely pre-ordering one.
@@SMGJohn I don't know what you mean with Leica exclusive.
Add weather sealing and it is Ricoh GRIIIx I always wanted. I'll traditionally wait for next iteration to see what needs to be improved before even thinking about change. Also nice to see Lok!
the sample photo are so good!
19:20 I can see this for CZcamsrs as well as tiktokers and instagrammers. Not every youtuber wants to spend the time color grading their footage in post, some just want to get their videos or vlogs out as soon as possible. Same with the photo LUTs, I can imagine someone who has a ton of lightroom presets that they edit with and they'll export the JPGs after, but I can see someone just using those LUTs on the fly and just eliminating the need to edit the shots later. It also helps people to get the shot in camera more often, because how many times do we shoot, find that something is under- or over-exposed and we just say "we'll fix it in post", well if we shoot with our color grades applied already, we can see the results right away.
No, its not for professionals, the people getting this camera are just casual, fun shooters. They aren't looking for redundancy or monitoring their audio (though, I cant imagine the onboard mic on that camera being very good, so thats a bit of a letdown that they didn't have a hotshoe and give it a Sony-like option for various good microphones). I see this as a pretty neat camera for travelers and vloggers, parents who might want a bit more of a robust camera than their phones. Fun times.
Youre joking right? This thing has a fantastic FF sensor, best in the business IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K open gate, 4K 60P in 4:2:2 10 bit and the fantastic LUT feature from the S5II, all in a compact and lightweight body. This is a filmmaker's dream run and gun/B roll cam. Not everyone who shoots video is a "tiktoker". You are clearly not a filmmaker and have no idea what you are talking about.
TikTok/Instagram influencers are using their phones. No one under the age of 30 is going to deal with having to take pictures, take it out of an SD card, edit it in Lightroom, export it then upload it to their phone to get it on there. They can do it five seconds on their phone.
@@michaelbell75 You're right, I'm not a filmmaker. Its just that when I see things like what looks like the easiest to use app transfer tool of any major camera brand out there, I instantly think that they are going strait for the quick creator market, the "influencers." The ones that shoot and upload within moments. I dont consider that market of creators as "filmmakers" because even though this camera has a lot of features like you mentioned, its lacking a lot of things I would expect a serious filmmaker would want at the bare minimum, such as audio monitoring for one thing. Does it even have a video output if someone wants to use an external monitor?
I wasnt trying to downplay the capabilities of this camera, I was just saying its aimed at a certain market, not exactly for actual pro's because of its limitations.
Almost nobody who actually makes a living with video color grades haha. It takes way too freaking long. So I guess this feature is neat if you can load up some options. Gotta try on my s5iix, a far superior camera in every way.
@@YaYousef5 well thats just the thing, with this camera you dont have to do all that to get all the footage off it, thats why they focused on having a robust app for data transfer.
Apparently this is not your workhorse camera. However, for people like me who already have more than 20 cameras, this is my ideal street photography camera, or for attending events as a guest, or for trips visiting cities and indoor attractions. I am buying this.
Small market
Love the photobombs and cameos :)
The lut stuff is actually really cool I think. It's like the Fuji film simulations except it's not a proprietary format. Even if you use raw files in the end, having using a lut could enable you to have the viewfinder look closer to how you want the final result to be
Pitty there us no viewfinder thought.
Why the hell is it not M43? Who wants a compact, not very ergonomic camera with massive full-frame lenses?
The LUT idea is great, doing what Fuji should have been doing: allowing people to create and share film simulations easily.
Exactly! And 4:3 Open Gate is even better then 3:2 for cropping.
With this camera looks like Panasonic really think the M43 segment is dead and there is no hope for a M43 G or GX anymore :-(
G100M2 is apparently gonna come with the G9M2 sensor, thats brilliant news if it appears.
M43 is underrated as heck.
@@cyrfung there's a spot yet for a new GX camera with the same G9II sensor.
Look at the timeline from Lumix.
S5 > GH6 > S5II/X > G9II > S9 > ¿GX10?
To me this would be primarily a platform for adapting compact rangefinder mount glass tbh, and for that it seems quite fun. Lenses like the Voigtländer 40 1.4.
But also, come on where's the compact MFT gear seriously it's such a good ecosystem for compact autofocus lenses 😮💨
This camera could've been something special. The lack of an EVF and lack of mechanical shutter is just sad.
Another great review, guys! This camera misses me completely because it's FF and not MFT, and because it's so stripped down. I get that there is a lot of FF buzz but the entire point of a tiny body like this is lost if you must use oversized FF lenses. You end up with a giant tail wagging a wee dog just as Chris described. It has a lot of interesting video tech, but then you only have 10 or 15 minutes of record time with the higher res settings? Kind of an electric sports car model - goes really fast for not far enough. I suspect that Panasonic will get a lot of feedback on this model and in a year there will be an updated version with much more right about it.
I have a hunch not having the headphone jack was an internal space/cost saving measure circuit wise. Would also explain why it isn't a combo jack either. That said the full-frame sensor is a welcome surprise as my first impression is that it's apsc/ m4/3.
I can only hope more companies adopt open gate recording to their cameras due to the doors that opens up creatively. (tbh was kinda shock the a9iii didn't have it but with everything else there it made sense to leave it behind)
Great video as always guys. It was also such a pleasure meeting you both on the trip. Looking forward to the next time we meet 😁
I loved your video you Badass Mother Photographer! Can’t wait to get to spend more time with you this year. All the best until I see you again soon.
Matt and Benj in the background the whole time haha
I love these LUTs. This is a really good idea.
Audio pricing is helpful. thank you.
If this cost $600 USD I might actually consider it.
wait for the price to drop. I think it can hit $1200-1300 range after a year
They should pay you to take it.. god people these days...
Give it two years. Panasonic cameras depreciate crazy compared to other camera brands. I don't know who's actually going to use this camera except for the adluencers who are going to be paid to use it in their CZcams videos.
@@YaYousef5 such a crazy comment.. its the same audience as for the sony z cameras or the sony a7 c and they sell well. Gh6 and s52 still cost release price where i live. You clearly have no clue about Panasonic cameras.
@@YaYousef5 Yeah, I plan on watching the used markets for one. I've got an S1R & S1 and I'd like to add a compact camera to my L-Mount system, but this thing is way overpriced for what it offers. I'd rather pick up a used Leica CL digital for that price. Almost none of the choice they made on this thing make sense. No good for photographers with no mechanical shutter without having a fast enough sensor read to compensate for it, no hotshoe so no flash photography, poor autofocus controls, no headphone jack, mini hdmi, short video recording ability. The more I think about it, it isn't even worth $600. They seem to think people will pay that just because it is a full frame sensor when m43 is way more than sufficient for anything this would be used for.
Wait…how did Chris sleep? This video is missing an important part of the press trip with Chris and Jordan 🙁 who is Matt and benj were so funny, thanks for being willing to help
I did not sleep well, but definitely better than Germany.
@@niccollsvideo Now I can sleep at night 😁Keep up the great work. It’s been hectic recently
I wonder if they will use this same body for M4/3 version with G9ii specs. At least I hope they will...
8:45 you have a fan 😂 really enjoy your Canadian -infused reviews
I can deal with the lack of EVF, but the lack of an mechanical shutter is very underwhealming, and I don't like this trend. I would be okay a first-curtain shutter, but going fully electronic does have disadvantages IMO. Having a mechanical shutter that has no issue with mixed artificial lights, is one main merit these days when smartphone photography takes over. Lacking a mechanical shutter will be thus one reason for not winning generation smartphone over. I was actually kinda considering this camera until that point--having a small form factor, good IBIS and autofocus, and a reasonable price
The are advantages to it too specially with stacked sensors
@@GG-zv9ku What are the advantages? Except saving some costs and size maybe.
Nikon z5 1100$ (body only): better grip, EVF, mech shutter, much brighter 28mm pancake lens
Lumix s9 1500$ : missing everything mentioned above
So apart from being a compact I don't see any reason to purchase this.
Yeah, it's crap.
z5 is going for a different market going photography focus. it has a huge 1.7 crop at 4k video.
The s9 is mainly a video/vlog camera which usually doesn't have an evf or mech shutter (fx3 or zve1 for example). The s9's faults are elsewhere.
Same here
Amazing camera, really amazing, the lack of a mechanical shutter is a deal breaker for me, but I can see Lumix making something incredible to sync a flash in a future firmware and it would be a dream camera
What can I say, I really want one after seeing the incredible photos and footage ❤️