The Panasonic S9 is Small, Pretty, and Utterly Baffling

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
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    The Panasonic Lumix S9 is the most affordable option for photographers and videographers looking to get into the full-frame L-Mount. The body is incredibly small but still boasts nice specs. Sacrifices needed to be made though, and we were concerned there might be a few too many. Check out our review from the streets of Osaka and Kyoto to find out if this is the right camera for you!
    Disclosure: Panasonic provided PetaPixel with travel and accommodations for the purposes of this video. It had no input on content and all opinions shared are those of PetaPixel.
    Rental equipment provided by The Camera Store:
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:57 - Design and controls
    4:04 - Sensor
    6:51 - Sample Images
    8:52 - LUTs for photography
    13:25 - Video
    20:22 - How it compares
    21:45 - Who is it for?
    #lumixs9 #panasonics9
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  • @MrFooFighter13
    @MrFooFighter13 Před měsícem +188

    19:32 Look it's Lok! Absolute legend.

    • @misterfilmguy
      @misterfilmguy Před měsícem +16

      Definitely. Happy to see him and Kai back together recently

    • @topg2820
      @topg2820 Před měsícem +17

      Lok it's Lut 😜

    • @henrahmagix
      @henrahmagix Před měsícem +13

      8:03 Hi Lok! in the back there!

    • @bigd7696
      @bigd7696 Před měsícem +2

      The man should do voice work, British James Earl Jones.

  • @dzeng
    @dzeng Před měsícem +694

    I'm not the target audience for the S9, but I can watch Chris and Jordan review a slice of bread for 15 minutes.

    • @denblendaman-826
      @denblendaman-826 Před měsícem +14

      Let's hope they slice a bread with S9 next time

    • @bryankeise9005
      @bryankeise9005 Před měsícem +4

      In the same club 😂😂

    • @seantomlinson3320
      @seantomlinson3320 Před měsícem +4

      Ha. I feel the same way. they’re so good.

    • @pabloherman8836
      @pabloherman8836 Před měsícem +2

      Chris is wearing a hand strap!?

    • @Propaganda_Films
      @Propaganda_Films Před měsícem +3

      Same here. My next purchase will be a Panasonic microwave, not S9, but I'm just enjoying watching every Chris and Jordan's camera gear reviews.

  • @amthemusic7632
    @amthemusic7632 Před měsícem +150

    23:04 looking at the imaginary view finder had me crying!!!! Benj is funny!

    • @fromia1
      @fromia1 Před měsícem +2

      Lol

    • @benjhaisch
      @benjhaisch Před měsícem +30

      The amount of times that I did that unironically on this trip was… significant ;)

    • @belowaverage7539
      @belowaverage7539 Před měsícem +1

      that fed up hand wave was the cherry on top XD

    • @amthemusic7632
      @amthemusic7632 Před měsícem

      @@benjhaisch lol I can imagine but we’ll see what happens in the future! I believe that they will drop a S9R with a view fonder one day. If I’m correct Lumix holds the patent for ND filters in mirrorless cameras and hasn’t resealed one yet. I’m confident they know how to work with that space of a body. They just chose not to Do that as to compete with their next generation of S1 series cameras.

  • @MicaelWidell
    @MicaelWidell Před měsícem +198

    Looks like a giant Panasonic GM-1. I wish they had made an updated GM-1 or GM-5 instead for micro four thirds - on that sensor size and with those lenses, compactness can truly be achieved.

    • @robojimtv
      @robojimtv Před měsícem +11

      I think the problem is it wouldn't be that much cheaper as an M43 and thus harder to sell. Would you pay 800 for this camera in M43? It seems designed for the cell phone crowd anyway.

    • @RhettThompsonFilm
      @RhettThompsonFilm Před měsícem +1

      Always a critic, who knows! Maybe a GM-1 camera is next!

    • @OchaFauzan01
      @OchaFauzan01 Před měsícem +21

      ​@@robojimtvbro i'd even heist a bank if they release a new GM5, a compact MFT with tilting screen and EVF. With 20mp MFT and all the latest tech they have, it would be a beast of a street photography camera. Slap it with a 300mm short reflex lens and you can pretend you are a secret agent.

    • @CallMeRabbitzUSVI
      @CallMeRabbitzUSVI Před měsícem +14

      ​@@robojimtvm43 sensors are much cheaper to produce than full frame sensors since its 1/4 the size. Plus it requires less power meaning lighter battery and with a much smaller body you can save more on materials making it an awesome travel camera

    • @funkmon
      @funkmon Před měsícem +23

      ​@@robojimtvYes. People pay 500 bucks for the GM5 now. I would pay 1400 for this on micro four thirds

  • @Lunarmech
    @Lunarmech Před měsícem +288

    Wow, cold shoe, no shutter, no evf, heavy banding. Panasonic were so close to getting this thing right but the fumbled it imo. And in ways that can't be fixed in firmware....I went from excited to not caring so fast. I guess I'm not the target market for this thing...

    • @B9scrambler
      @B9scrambler Před měsícem +23

      I feel the same. So close, but not quite there...

    • @rizkytp
      @rizkytp Před měsícem +2

      I feel the same 😢

    • @mattmaddox9367
      @mattmaddox9367 Před měsícem +11

      The L mount street beast remains elusive.

    • @TheA4mfilms
      @TheA4mfilms Před měsícem +25

      Good god so many deal breakers. What was in theory a system seller and would sell like gang busters , is now a crippled mess. I was hovering over the buy button till I saw this. Utterly baffled. Ready to sell my a7c but even the x100vi is better all round performer. Sad. I looooove the look of Panasonic files.

    • @sergeyzakharov7326
      @sergeyzakharov7326 Před měsícem +7

      S9 would be such an amazing camera for adopting manual lenses if there were a mechanical shutter

  • @robert_may
    @robert_may Před měsícem +95

    Woof, electronic shutter only with the S5II sensor speed is certainly a choice. This feels like a fairly weird competitor to the Sigma fp.

    • @MrWiseinheart
      @MrWiseinheart Před měsícem +1

      Good way of putting it. 👍

    • @ChrisWhittenMusic
      @ChrisWhittenMusic Před měsícem +6

      @@MrWiseinheartAt least the Sigma has an accessory EVF. Mine shoots excellent stills and video. Wouldn’t trade it for this.

    • @MrWiseinheart
      @MrWiseinheart Před měsícem +3

      @@ChrisWhittenMusic true, plus it's actually smaller too right?, and since the fp L came out, the previous model can be had for fairly cheap.

    • @robert_may
      @robert_may Před měsícem +5

      @@MrWiseinheart Yeah and weather-sealed too. There's something oddly beautiful about the fp too - it's quirky and cool, and often overlooked. A future fp model with a stacked sensor and a flippy screen would get me even more excited 🤤

    • @gioponti6359
      @gioponti6359 Před měsícem

      @@robert_mayi think there is some modification (inofficial, diy style, of course) that allows to flip the screen on the fp.

  • @MikeRinz
    @MikeRinz Před měsícem +19

    I'd rather have a feature rich 4:3 camera than a severely crippled full frame one.

    • @weplaywax
      @weplaywax Před 6 dny

      Then buy a GH7 or even a G9.

  • @shbdhd
    @shbdhd Před měsícem +95

    There's a lut to ponder with this new camera

  • @kcphotogeek6207
    @kcphotogeek6207 Před měsícem +21

    The Crushed Retro profile essentially turns the S9 into a Pentax K-01 for video

  • @cba20k
    @cba20k Před měsícem +20

    Whoah guys you said "baffling" in your video title. Say goodbye to those sweet Panasonic trips, you are Lumix-cancelled bros!!

    • @yourmagicfilm
      @yourmagicfilm Před 27 dny +2

      yep, according to Gerald! Is Baffling worse than STRANGE?!

    • @TravisVarga
      @TravisVarga Před 27 dny +1

      lol

    • @bluerainbug
      @bluerainbug Před 2 dny

      They got the balls to say "you wouldn't be interested in the next iteration so just sit it out."

  • @ivideocouk
    @ivideocouk Před měsícem +45

    oh well never mind!

  • @lomelyo
    @lomelyo Před měsícem +35

    Until companies start releasing sub 600 dollars cameras. No one is going to go mainstream. People like to take photos. But they already have 800 dollar phones. The first company to release a compelling 600 dollar camera is going to become huge in the long run. This is not it. Targeting TikTokers with a 1500 camera is just dumb. Absolutely dumb.

    • @OchaFauzan01
      @OchaFauzan01 Před měsícem +7

      True. That's what made Nikon D3500 (or 3000 series as a whole) legendary. They went big money and they forgot what makes them there.

    • @nickguzman1734
      @nickguzman1734 Před měsícem +6

      I disagree. Tons of tiktok creators are getting the expensive Sony models for their creation... this will be a compelling option, but with some drawbacks

    • @Deetroiter
      @Deetroiter Před měsícem

      @@nickguzman1734this is true. People moan about any Leica camera…and these ‘creators’ will blow thousands and thousands of dollars a few times a year buying new Sony cameras, lenses, etc.

    • @lomelyo
      @lomelyo Před měsícem +8

      @@nickguzman1734 wrong, there's not even a ton of successful TikToks/creators to warrant a 1500 video camera that's not geared for professionals. Like the ZV line from Sony. It's also not geared for photographers at all, and is the ugliest camera in the market besides the black so it can't even compete with the X100vi, which is what they should have aimed with a small form factor full frame at 1500 usd.

    • @nickguzman1734
      @nickguzman1734 Před měsícem +4

      @lomelyo you obviously haven't seenthe sheer amount of influencers using the a7s3. It's OK to admit you don't know what you're talking about

  • @JM-it7db
    @JM-it7db Před měsícem +8

    Jordan really nailed this video, shooting handheld with such a small camera. The video looks excellent, regardless of gear.

  • @MrChomiq
    @MrChomiq Před měsícem +62

    6:57 - that black and white profile looks amazing.

    • @AI3Dorinte
      @AI3Dorinte Před měsícem +3

      agreed :)

    • @bigtiger567
      @bigtiger567 Před měsícem +2

      L monochrome is the key reason I get into Lumix.... Now they have an even better Leica monochrome.....

  • @thyncha
    @thyncha Před měsícem +14

    They should have just made a gm5 successor. New mft sensor, add ibis, add the luts. Keep the evf and the mechanical shutter. That would be a killer camera because of the smaller lenses. It would be the best compact camera to date.

  • @Deetroiter
    @Deetroiter Před měsícem +33

    I’m still enjoying my LUMIX GX85…it’s more than enough camera for 99% of people whether they’d like to admit it or not. Nice to see Panasonic still creating these beautiful cameras.

    • @-grey
      @-grey Před měsícem +15

      I genuinely think 90% of people going for a Fujifilm X100VI or Ricoh GRIII could easily live with the GX85 or GX850 tbh

    • @excalibro8365
      @excalibro8365 Před měsícem +4

      @@-grey And if you put pana-leica 15mm lens on it essentially becomes a poor man's leica q

    • @mistermastermind528
      @mistermastermind528 Před měsícem +5

      No kidding. It has dual dials, evf, hot shoe.

    • @birdboy92
      @birdboy92 Před měsícem

      @@-grey I thought that until I bought the GX85 and saw the disaster that is the EVF. Returned it very quickly.

    • @Centauri27
      @Centauri27 Před měsícem +2

      Same here! And I also have the GX7, which I love even more from an ergonomics standpoint. How did the entire internet get brainwashed into thinking you need FF for creators, when their output is only CZcams, TikTok, and Instagram!

  • @drhito
    @drhito Před měsícem +35

    Little L Mount bundle of joy.

    • @RyoHazuki224
      @RyoHazuki224 Před měsícem +3

      THE LITTLEEEEEE ELLLLLLLLL MOOOOOOUNNT ALLIAAAAAANNCEEEEEEEEEE

  • @chu0nthat
    @chu0nthat Před měsícem +3

    Always look forward to these CZcamsr gathering events. It’s nice seeing all the cameos and guest appearances

  • @anjolielanel990
    @anjolielanel990 Před měsícem +2

    I just love the look of the files. Detail that isn’t too much that it’s distracting or irritating. Amazing

  • @tonyaguilar7779
    @tonyaguilar7779 Před měsícem +2

    Thank you for bringing this video so fast!

  • @cameralabs
    @cameralabs Před měsícem +26

    Nice video guys, just off to download Chris's LUTs now...

    • @AdamJRichardson
      @AdamJRichardson Před měsícem +3

      Buy him a coffee so he doesn't feel totally ripped off 😁

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs Před měsícem +5

      @@AdamJRichardson hey, I'M the guy who asks for a coffee!

  • @tobiaslofi
    @tobiaslofi Před měsícem +3

    21:09 custom grade: the colors look so warm and good! Best colors of the entire video!

  • @Raima888s
    @Raima888s Před měsícem +1

    So good to see you guys still doing videos. Was sad when I heard they closed down peta pixel. Glad you guys are back. Wishing you all the best :D

  • @liaminwales
    @liaminwales Před měsícem +9

    It looks super cool, I just want a M43 version at half the price.
    The LUT's option is something we have needed for years, I hope there's an option to add luts via SD card as phone apps tend to brake after a few years.

  • @LUITESLIFE
    @LUITESLIFE Před měsícem +10

    Mmmm was pretty excited about it until no EVF.

  • @orangorill
    @orangorill Před měsícem +9

    Absolutely love the look of this thing, and I'd by it immediately if it had an EVF (and ideally a mech shutter and a tilt screen). Since it doesn't, I'll be picking up a nice green one used in five or so years.

    • @weplaywax
      @weplaywax Před 6 dny

      What you are describing is the S5IIX which is only 500 more :)

  • @exploresouthwest
    @exploresouthwest Před měsícem +2

    I love the option for small rangefinder sized cameras as a backup to a DSLR brick, even if I have t give up some features. I remember the tiny Lumix GM1. So awesome, so convenient for a 2nd camera.

  • @wookchang8852
    @wookchang8852 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for your evaluation, Chris and Jordan.

  • @patrickmeyer2802
    @patrickmeyer2802 Před měsícem +20

    As someone who has been shooting with the S1H for a few years and was considering buying an S5IIX for a little while for vlogging and that sort of thing, honestly this looks like a great B-Cam and for if I ever decide to get into vlogging or need something to put in a difficult location.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 Před měsícem +3

      This thing has a fantastic FF sensor, best in the business IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K open gate, 4K 60P in 4:2:2 10 bit and the fantastic LUT feature from the S5II, all in a compact and lightweight body. This is a filmmaker's dream run and gun/B roll cam. Its a lot more capable than just a "vlogging" cam lol

    • @phoenixprjct
      @phoenixprjct Před měsícem +1

      I just sold my little GX85 that was my trusty "C- Cam" the last 6 years and will probably scoop up one of these when they hit $1,000 used. Gaining full frame, anamorphic, PDAF and IBIS will be amazing coming from a little m43 camera that was already punching way above its weight.

    • @patrickmeyer2802
      @patrickmeyer2802 Před měsícem

      @michaelbell75 No full sized HDMI, difficult to rig form factor, no mechanical heat regulation, no audio monitoring, no hot shoe, etc, etc. Recording modes are one thing, but when there's cameras out there that more than fulfill those requirements already, I'm not gonna take the hit on IO and form factor.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 Před měsícem

      @@patrickmeyer2802 well that’s why they have the S5IIx. There are plenty of hybrid shooters like myself who couldn’t care less about any of that. We just want an affordable compact and lightweight FF camera with great specs. We finally have one.

    • @patrickmeyer2802
      @patrickmeyer2802 Před měsícem

      @michaelbell75 and did I ever say that you had to use it as a B? No, I said that that's what I would be using it for. Some people can absolutely not worry about those issues, but unfortunately in the work I do, I can't.

  • @JamieFurlong
    @JamieFurlong Před měsícem +11

    Big Panasonic fan here, but I'm confused as to who Panasonic consulted when r&ding this camera. You said that Panasonic was aiming at photographers as well as videographers, and serious stills photographers have been crying out for a new compact form factor (GX9, GM5, GX85 etc), but the lack of stills features is almost a write-off. The live LUTs is a great idea, and some of those in-camera profiles looked good, but I'm left puzzled as to who this camera is aimed at. Sadly, it's not me.

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz Před měsícem +2

      If they want 1400 dollars from me they can release a gm5ii. Actually it would be 4200. I'd purchase 3. 2 for dual camera shooting, and a third as a backup. I've run my entire photography business, making 200k a year, off GM5s entirely since they released!

    • @JamieFurlong
      @JamieFurlong Před měsícem +1

      @@cheeeeezewizzz I love my GM5. That's why I like Panasonic, it knows how to cram good technology into small cameras.

  • @charliewaterman816
    @charliewaterman816 Před měsícem +1

    Great to see different options coming out. Not for me, but happy to see companies looking in different directions! :)

  • @yoyiyoyi7216
    @yoyiyoyi7216 Před měsícem +2

    Great to see Jordan back reviewing video functions

  • @bsum8715
    @bsum8715 Před měsícem +126

    Probably Panasonic would not like this, but I decided to skip the Lumix Livestream and come here instead for the S9 news.

  • @GeekyNerdyTechy
    @GeekyNerdyTechy Před měsícem +39

    It was an absolute pleasure meeting you guys in person! Great video, guys! Well done. 😎

  • @fellowcitizen
    @fellowcitizen Před měsícem +2

    17:00 Don't forget that the Sigma fp L introduced the Crop-Zoom with twenty-six increments of the 61mp sensor -- which allows for 5x or so on HD, as I recall. I'm very pleased to see this on Lumix -- especially when a high-resolution camera with mechanical shutter comes through. Having said that, I loved the GM5 and the X100, and this goes to the next level in L-mount.

  • @epambos
    @epambos Před měsícem

    Absolutely excellent review! Jordan has taken the video quality a step above... Well Done!

  • @alfatemycats
    @alfatemycats Před měsícem +6

    As someone still rocking a GX8 as a light, easy to pack camera, I was super excited when the rumors for this camera came out. Unfortunately, I don't know if this is going to be the replacement I was hoping for.

    • @eventhori3on
      @eventhori3on Před měsícem +1

      They missed a trick! New gx or lx camera is required! Full frame for a small pocketable camera is dumb as hell!

  • @MuhammadKharismawan
    @MuhammadKharismawan Před měsícem +12

    all these small jokes like on 19:20 and 19:47 are what make these videos by the duo always enjoyable even tho quite information dense XD

  • @thatguyoverthere115
    @thatguyoverthere115 Před měsícem +2

    Loving the Chris presets! Very crunchy.

  • @davidzhorvath
    @davidzhorvath Před měsícem +1

    Incredible how much the Kyoto / Japan backdrop adds to everything. GREAT video as always.

  • @atarkus8
    @atarkus8 Před měsícem +6

    The camera seems ok, but it has to be said that your street photography and videography is on point! You walked away with some definite keepers there. There's a lot to be said for having a camera compact enough that you can take it everywhere.

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo Před měsícem +1

      Thank you so much! It’s hard not to feel inspired in Japan!

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo Před měsícem +2

      Thank you so much! It’s hard not to feel inspired in Japan!

  • @thanksmark
    @thanksmark Před měsícem +12

    I love the LUT features and how in depth it goes.
    I can finally make my own style and shoot in it. And compose my shot for the contrast and exposure of the LUT.
    Very nice

  • @l-mount-forum9607
    @l-mount-forum9607 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for this review!

  • @codyscheff
    @codyscheff Před měsícem +1

    great shots Taken through this tiny body! well done!

  • @CLIFFLIX
    @CLIFFLIX Před měsícem +4

    Seems to me that the S9 is priced WAY too close to the S5-II. Just spend a little bit more and get a WAY better camera. I don't get why this camera exists unless it's much cheaper than this. Go S5-II or S5-IIX and forget this S9. Buy the S5-IIX and you will NOT regret it! (buy the S9 and I think you will)

  • @kiyotoshiyamauchi7618
    @kiyotoshiyamauchi7618 Před měsícem +5

    Perfect pronunciation of Kyoto. I thank you as a Japanese native. 🙏 and thank you for your review as always super informative!

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo Před měsícem +2

      I can’t speak Japanese very well unfortunately but I can certainly pronounce it. I even named my middle son Ryuma which as you know, is a tricky one.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 Před měsícem

      Which time? He said it different ways at different spots in the video.

  • @hunterholt1249
    @hunterholt1249 Před měsícem +1

    Chris, great photos this review!

  • @gbye007
    @gbye007 Před 25 dny

    Very comprehensive review for a launch video. I can't see how you'd make it any better. Well done. You've put lots of work into this, and not just sat around in the hotel lobby.

  • @scotttucker9613
    @scotttucker9613 Před měsícem +91

    This camera proves for the umpteenth time that companies have NO CLUE what we want from this market segment.

    • @AM23.
      @AM23. Před měsícem +3

      Exactly!!!

    • @LumixGang
      @LumixGang Před měsícem +5

      Who is we? I want it

    • @scotttucker9613
      @scotttucker9613 Před měsícem +18

      @@LumixGang well you are an admitted fanboy by name, so go nuts, bud

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli Před měsícem +8

      Ahh, the old “Royal We”. The reality is that Panasonic know what old curmudgeons want, but they also know that said old curmudgeons don’t really buy compact bodies like this one. They buy the big beefy S5, A7IV and R6 ones because they include everything and the kitchen sink. The kids who will consider an S9 have *vastly* different priorities and interests.

    • @hydro5168
      @hydro5168 Před měsícem +5

      @@Ildskalli I am one of the people who was excited for this camera, being a Lumix GX series shooter this was right up my alley. No EVF and no mech shutter is a huge dealbreaker for me so idk

  • @MrLogansimmons
    @MrLogansimmons Před měsícem +3

    The last time I saw a cold shoe was on an ancient Pentax film camera, and it had an x sync socket on the camera body to connect the flash to.

  • @happyend6035
    @happyend6035 Před měsícem +1

    Amazing review~! Thank you for telling me so well about the pros and cons!

  • @stampscapes
    @stampscapes Před měsícem +1

    Great review. Love the look of the S9.

  • @PeterVlutters
    @PeterVlutters Před měsícem +25

    Nice Beginner Camera ...
    If it had an EVF and a price of $799

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 Před měsícem +1

      Youre joking right? This thing has a fantastic FF sensor, best in the business IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K open gate, 4K 60P in 4:2:2 10 bit and the fantastic LUT feature from the S5II, all in a compact and lightweight body. This is a filmmaker's dream run and gun/B roll cam. The Sony fanboys are so mad right now lol

    • @PeterVlutters
      @PeterVlutters Před měsícem +7

      @michaelbell75 you must be mad by insinuating that everbody whonis critical on camera is Sony Fanboy... (bad case of Projection on your behalve🧠)
      Been a Lumix Photographer since 2015 and will stay that but when I buy a new Lunix not an S9....I llove tge looks love the size but... Like the Idea with LUTs....
      But no EVF is a NO GO for me

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 Před měsícem +1

      @@PeterVlutters Cinema cameras dont have EVFs, you are clearly not a filmmaker. Buy an S5II.

    • @pringleboat
      @pringleboat Před měsícem +3

      ​@@michaelbell75 MODERN cinema cameras dont have EVFs, and a ton of professionals still use them, they just dont come with the camera anymore lol. And yeah, I'd buy any other brand camera over this one because ANY of them would be better for $1,500. I love Panny but this release sucks...

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 Před měsícem

      @@pringleboat really? Who else makes a compact and lightweight FF sensor camera with excellent IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K 60p in 4:2:2 10 bit with advanced features like waveform and vectorscope for $1,500? I’ll wait….

  • @asrieljaksa1996
    @asrieljaksa1996 Před měsícem +3

    The cameos from @whoismatt have me rolling 🤣👏🏻 LOL

  • @ourhouseuk
    @ourhouseuk Před měsícem +1

    Please tell Jordan to make a how to mix sound video then force every other content creator to watch it. It’s so nice to hear music that doesn’t make me want to smash my head into a wall because it’s so much louder than speaking volume. Good job.

  • @tablameister
    @tablameister Před měsícem

    Thanks for the great review. Including a mic jack but omitting a headphone jack seems like an incredible oversight. Hopefully, they can offer a firmware upgrade and offer audio monitoring via the USB port. I hope they come out with a similar camera in micro 4/3 as a successor to the GM1.

  • @rogerlee1112
    @rogerlee1112 Před měsícem +5

    For those coming here after Gerald Undone's video, I'm in the same boat. Just curious how a lot of the top camera channels approached this. Without doubt, I knew Chris and Jordan would NOT hold back. They obviously didn't "fluff" this review. It was pretty brutally honest and not glowing. They even gave 3 different cameras as options over this one. You can tell by most of the comments here that their points against this camera were made clearly.
    I feel Gerald made some VERY solid points as to why we should change the way reviews are handled regarding these embargo/influencer trips for product launches. It really puts the pressure on up and coming reviewers to "toe the line" but I can always count on Chris and Jordan to buck that. They made their bread and butter by NOT toeing the line and just telling it like they see it. Kudos guys! Great job.

  • @stevewhiteley9249
    @stevewhiteley9249 Před měsícem +3

    The content you made with it all looked really nice. However, I think it's really expensive for what it is and it lacks the kind of controls I'd want as a photographer. I'm not sure whether there are small form factor lenses for this system in the same way as on M43 from Panasonic and Olympus. Nice review, thanks and you've save me from wasting any more time thinking about this model.

  • @strawberry7799a
    @strawberry7799a Před měsícem

    16:34 The mom and baby playing is so cute!

  • @Angelo_Botta
    @Angelo_Botta Před měsícem +1

    Thank you for the honest review.

  • @ContraGrain
    @ContraGrain Před měsícem +8

    No EVF is breaks the deal for me. Hopefully Panasonic will make and S9ii or S9EVF sooner rather than later because I would instantly buy that.
    That being said Lumix Lab is going to absolutely revolutionize LUTs. I’m super excited for this.

  • @glennsak
    @glennsak Před měsícem +3

    This camera could've been something special. The lack of an EVF and lack of mechanical shutter is just sad.

  • @blakemartin9445
    @blakemartin9445 Před měsícem +1

    Nice to see you guys at Portland’s Japanese Garden!

  • @Filmmaker809
    @Filmmaker809 Před 29 dny +2

    Baffled as well guys. I met Lumix at 2 trade shows in London and I knew a new camera was coming, but oh boy what a disappointment. We don't want the S9, we want the GH7 and S1Hii.

  • @MicroFourNerds
    @MicroFourNerds Před měsícem +22

    Wonderful video as ever! Was such a pleasure spending time with you both in Osaka. And I think a very balanced and informative view on Real Time LUT. I think, if people give it a chance it can be so powerful! But Lumix havent helped themselves with the techy naming, and various methods you can come at RTL in-camera

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo Před měsícem +3

      Loved meeting you finally Emily!!! Big fan of your channel. Hopefully we will run into each other again someday.

  • @joshuamontgomery0
    @joshuamontgomery0 Před měsícem +3

    Matt and Benj in the background the whole time haha

  • @Channel-xx8qt
    @Channel-xx8qt Před měsícem +2

    sensor FF with IBIS in small compact body, amazing.
    LUT lumix against Fuji film simulation

  • @tomaszstramel3594
    @tomaszstramel3594 Před měsícem +1

    Footage and images came out great!

  • @tofu042
    @tofu042 Před měsícem +12

    I hope this will push Sony a bit towards a RX3

    • @rmccorma
      @rmccorma Před měsícem +1

      or at the minimum a firmware update for the RX1 lol

    • @tofu042
      @tofu042 Před měsícem

      @@rmccorma we can still dream

  • @lionheart4424
    @lionheart4424 Před měsícem +3

    Seems like the S9 is to the S5ii what the X-T50 is to the X-T5.
    Also we have another stab at Fuji but this time in the "Film Simulations" and "recipes" area.
    Oh, and I am not sure if Chris' Neopan 640 is actually good, or if it's enhanced by Jordan's looks.

  • @user-kc7gd7ux6r
    @user-kc7gd7ux6r Před měsícem +1

    the sample photo are so good!

  • @vadergrd
    @vadergrd Před měsícem

    7:00 i was like ... such beatiful colours ...and then the timelapse with the rainbow came ...

  • @3BMEP
    @3BMEP Před měsícem +7

    Always a joy to see you guys!

  • @jovis3084
    @jovis3084 Před měsícem +17

    Lovely preview, but where is the full Zf review, i am lusting for it. Oh and as been said, S9 as mft would be a buy, if it gets an evf

  • @Jupiter2ignite
    @Jupiter2ignite Před měsícem

    Man the audio sounds fantastic in this video.

  • @MattGetze
    @MattGetze Před měsícem +2

    I like the crushed retro look!

  • @RyoHazuki224
    @RyoHazuki224 Před měsícem +24

    19:20 I can see this for CZcamsrs as well as tiktokers and instagrammers. Not every youtuber wants to spend the time color grading their footage in post, some just want to get their videos or vlogs out as soon as possible. Same with the photo LUTs, I can imagine someone who has a ton of lightroom presets that they edit with and they'll export the JPGs after, but I can see someone just using those LUTs on the fly and just eliminating the need to edit the shots later. It also helps people to get the shot in camera more often, because how many times do we shoot, find that something is under- or over-exposed and we just say "we'll fix it in post", well if we shoot with our color grades applied already, we can see the results right away.
    No, its not for professionals, the people getting this camera are just casual, fun shooters. They aren't looking for redundancy or monitoring their audio (though, I cant imagine the onboard mic on that camera being very good, so thats a bit of a letdown that they didn't have a hotshoe and give it a Sony-like option for various good microphones). I see this as a pretty neat camera for travelers and vloggers, parents who might want a bit more of a robust camera than their phones. Fun times.

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 Před měsícem +1

      Youre joking right? This thing has a fantastic FF sensor, best in the business IBIS, 6K open gate, 4K open gate, 4K 60P in 4:2:2 10 bit and the fantastic LUT feature from the S5II, all in a compact and lightweight body. This is a filmmaker's dream run and gun/B roll cam. Not everyone who shoots video is a "tiktoker". You are clearly not a filmmaker and have no idea what you are talking about.

    • @YaYousef5
      @YaYousef5 Před měsícem +1

      TikTok/Instagram influencers are using their phones. No one under the age of 30 is going to deal with having to take pictures, take it out of an SD card, edit it in Lightroom, export it then upload it to their phone to get it on there. They can do it five seconds on their phone.

    • @RyoHazuki224
      @RyoHazuki224 Před měsícem

      @@michaelbell75 You're right, I'm not a filmmaker. Its just that when I see things like what looks like the easiest to use app transfer tool of any major camera brand out there, I instantly think that they are going strait for the quick creator market, the "influencers." The ones that shoot and upload within moments. I dont consider that market of creators as "filmmakers" because even though this camera has a lot of features like you mentioned, its lacking a lot of things I would expect a serious filmmaker would want at the bare minimum, such as audio monitoring for one thing. Does it even have a video output if someone wants to use an external monitor?
      I wasnt trying to downplay the capabilities of this camera, I was just saying its aimed at a certain market, not exactly for actual pro's because of its limitations.

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz Před měsícem

      Almost nobody who actually makes a living with video color grades haha. It takes way too freaking long. So I guess this feature is neat if you can load up some options. Gotta try on my s5iix, a far superior camera in every way.

    • @RyoHazuki224
      @RyoHazuki224 Před měsícem +1

      @@YaYousef5 well thats just the thing, with this camera you dont have to do all that to get all the footage off it, thats why they focused on having a robust app for data transfer.

  • @shang-hsienyang1284
    @shang-hsienyang1284 Před měsícem +8

    Apparently this is not your workhorse camera. However, for people like me who already have more than 20 cameras, this is my ideal street photography camera, or for attending events as a guest, or for trips visiting cities and indoor attractions. I am buying this.

  • @mdino2835
    @mdino2835 Před měsícem +1

    Really enjoyed your review !

  • @Tardsmat
    @Tardsmat Před měsícem +2

    The lut stuff is actually really cool I think. It's like the Fuji film simulations except it's not a proprietary format. Even if you use raw files in the end, having using a lut could enable you to have the viewfinder look closer to how you want the final result to be

  • @mundzine
    @mundzine Před měsícem +2

    $1500 for a compact full frame camera is tempting but the corners panasonic cut is a turn off

  • @Renderprism
    @Renderprism Před měsícem +27

    I will go onto every S9 vid and shamelessly preach for a GX9ii, a compact m43 camera with PDAF and the generous Lumix video features (plus all that fun cheap glass), it would be the perfect "carry it just in case" camera.

    • @mauriceschoenen
      @mauriceschoenen Před měsícem +1

      Exactly!!!

    • @eventhori3on
      @eventhori3on Před měsícem +5

      100% they did not read the room! LX100mk3 with PDAF high read out speeds etc etc people would have eaten that up! And a GX camera in the same vain for interchangeable format

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz Před měsícem +1

      gm5 succcessor, not the stupid gx9. That thing is too freaking massive.

    • @Democratiser
      @Democratiser Před měsícem

      Agreed.

    • @mauriceschoenen
      @mauriceschoenen Před měsícem

      @@cheeeeezewizzz why stupid?

  • @01chohan
    @01chohan Před měsícem +1

    It's been a wild couple of weeks for the camera world.

  • @victoriankambe3070
    @victoriankambe3070 Před měsícem +1

    Cool. I will most likely stay on the X100vi waiting list. As a photographer, I like that tactile process.

  • @SMGJohn
    @SMGJohn Před měsícem +21

    Its ironic how crippled this thing is because of the large sensor.
    It would been brilliant as a M43 camera.

    • @edvelfilms
      @edvelfilms Před měsícem +3

      I'm pretty sure, the next is a MFT camera. Look at the timeline from the recent cameras
      S5 > GH6 > S5II/X > G9II > S9 > ¿Next is GX10?
      They dance between MFT and FF sensor with their releases. So I'm pretty sure it will be a MFT, but not sure if it's gonna be a GX or a GH. There's potential and demand for a GX10 or GH6II, both with PDAF and killer stab.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn Před měsícem

      @@edvelfilms
      Rumours all strongly suggest G100M2 to be the next camera that will use the G9M2 sensor with PDAF and open gate mode.
      So far the rumours have all been correct about the S9 and its awful 26mm lens also the compact zoom lens. So who knows? The G100 is definitely a camera that could use some redemption.

    • @edvelfilms
      @edvelfilms Před měsícem

      @@SMGJohn I would rather get a LX100 Mark 3 than that... but well.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn Před měsícem

      @@edvelfilms
      Well you are in luck, cause that was DEFINITELY confirmed to be arriving but first as a Leica exclusive, and then we will get LX100M3, I am definitely pre-ordering one.

    • @edvelfilms
      @edvelfilms Před měsícem

      @@SMGJohn I don't know what you mean with Leica exclusive.

  • @TomCalton
    @TomCalton Před měsícem +10

    Great video as always guys. It was also such a pleasure meeting you both on the trip. Looking forward to the next time we meet 😁

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo Před měsícem +1

      I loved your video you Badass Mother Photographer! Can’t wait to get to spend more time with you this year. All the best until I see you again soon.

  • @danielgebert4556
    @danielgebert4556 Před 13 dny +1

    Ngl, the realtime lut and photo styles is pretty incredible. I feel like they saw what Fuji have been doing and just cranked it to 11. Honestly, Panasonic giving me more reasons to get one as my next camera…

  • @juliussternfeld428
    @juliussternfeld428 Před měsícem +1

    The video looks really excellent, better than usual in my opinion. Maybe Jordans new camera? Or did you use other lenses than usual? Looks different.

  • @benjhaisch
    @benjhaisch Před měsícem +11

    So good exploring with you guys!

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo Před měsícem +2

      You were wonderful! Great to meet you and shoot together!

  • @ValueTech
    @ValueTech Před měsícem +8

    It was a pleasure to see you guys again :)

  • @RealBesty
    @RealBesty Před měsícem +1

    Love the photobombs and cameos :)

  • @SakaphotoGraphics
    @SakaphotoGraphics Před 28 dny

    I've known several people who really don't know how to photograph well, but they win prizes and contracts because they edit the hell out of their photos. They would love the S9! After using the Panasonic GM5, I might enjoy the S9 occasionally, but I'd rather have the S5Mk2.

  • @PieterBreda
    @PieterBreda Před měsícem +17

    No EVF is a deal-breaker for me.

    • @AI3Dorinte
      @AI3Dorinte Před měsícem +4

      at the same time I am looking at people who shoot with the X100V or VI and they always use the screen, I don't understand it, but I am not the target i guess...

    • @shingvictor
      @shingvictor Před měsícem +1

      Same here and no mechanical shutter…..

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 Před měsícem

      This is a video-centric camera. Get the S5II if you want an EVF

    • @cheeeeezewizzz
      @cheeeeezewizzz Před měsícem

      @@michaelbell75 Your stupidity boggles the mind.

    • @nickguzman1734
      @nickguzman1734 Před měsícem

      ​@isinox in my opinion, the issue isn't that there's no evf, it's that these kinds of cameras absolutely need an oled screen. This lcd doesn't cut it in daylight

  • @KK-fi6ms
    @KK-fi6ms Před měsícem +21

    I don't understand this weird new obsession of camera manufacturers of adding pink, purple, blue colors, but not a classic chrome + black option.

    • @yashomb
      @yashomb Před měsícem +4

      because bright colors are trendy among the influencer generation. in few years those colors will become the new classic.

    • @JayBakshi
      @JayBakshi Před měsícem +3

      The thing about classic is not that they are appreciated in few years, it’s that timelessness of it. Classicchrome, black and even silver are just simply timeless, pleasant to eyes and hence making the people in front of lens be at ease when getting clicked. The brighter colors elicit some emotion, which is hard to control when doing videography.

    • @romanpul
      @romanpul Před měsícem

      Nikon be like hold my Zfc

    • @Tigerex966
      @Tigerex966 Před měsícem

      Lgbt

  • @erwinc.9117
    @erwinc.9117 Před měsícem +1

    As a Leica CL owner, the baffling design decisions in the S9 just reminds me how much potential APS-C L mount has. In a similar footprint, the CL feels way more complete as a camera feature wise, and lenses balance way better on it. Sigma has a whole line of APS-C L mount too, a camera needs to happen.

  • @shonen84
    @shonen84 Před měsícem +1

    I really love this, to be honest. It’s for the Fuji X100 crowd and TikTok/IG people, for whom this simplified full frame experience will be a revelation. The $1500 is perfect as well, I’d skip a flagship phone for this, and the results would be massively better. I hope Canon will update the RP, that camera is also a little gem

  • @heyheyhey520
    @heyheyhey520 Před měsícem +3

    Wait…how did Chris sleep? This video is missing an important part of the press trip with Chris and Jordan 🙁 who is Matt and benj were so funny, thanks for being willing to help

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo Před měsícem +2

      I did not sleep well, but definitely better than Germany.

    • @heyheyhey520
      @heyheyhey520 Před měsícem +1

      @@niccollsvideo Now I can sleep at night 😁Keep up the great work. It’s been hectic recently

  • @petouser
    @petouser Před měsícem +7

    I can deal with the lack of EVF, but the lack of an mechanical shutter is very underwhealming, and I don't like this trend. I would be okay a first-curtain shutter, but going fully electronic does have disadvantages IMO. Having a mechanical shutter that has no issue with mixed artificial lights, is one main merit these days when smartphone photography takes over. Lacking a mechanical shutter will be thus one reason for not winning generation smartphone over. I was actually kinda considering this camera until that point--having a small form factor, good IBIS and autofocus, and a reasonable price

    • @GG-zv9ku
      @GG-zv9ku Před měsícem

      The are advantages to it too specially with stacked sensors

    • @petouser
      @petouser Před měsícem +1

      @@GG-zv9ku What are the advantages? Except saving some costs and size maybe.

  • @BimoNuksmo
    @BimoNuksmo Před měsícem

    I love you chose Lok footage to talk about stabilization! Obviously Lok is the handheld master

  • @JadeMonkee
    @JadeMonkee Před měsícem +2

    I have an Olympus (OM System) E-P7 and absolutely adore the in-built colour profiles (the same ones as seen on the legendary PEN-F, and similar to Fujifilm film simulations). As a parent, I don't really have the time to spend editing my raw files, so I shoot raw+jpg, with the raw as a backup and the colour-modified jpg for instant sharing with my family (who live overseas).
    The ability to share and edit the LUTs via an app is a genius move.
    So I think there is definitely a market for the in-built creative photography modes seen in this camera, and I'm excited to see how they evolve (and if OM System follow suit).
    However, given the small body, I don't understand why this isn't a Micro Four Thirds camera: the smaller lenses of that system would be ideal for its tiny body.