EVERY Era of Mon Calamari Cruisers (Legends and Canon)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 14. 01. 2020
- We cover EVERY era of Mon Calamari Cruisers from both Star Wars legends and canon on today's lore video!
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The Virgin Star destroyer and the Chad Star defender
@Bocaan The Humble you forgot about the Karen-class battlestation... It destroyed the planet of Manageria a few rotations ago
@@KellingtonDorkswafer The Karen-class battlestation can be countered only by a a flotilla of Dreadnought-tier capital ships and assorted support ships, or one Hitachi-class Mothership.
Wizard Lucrehulk
Game class star dreadnought
Viscount is still best dreadnought, fight me imperial Shills
I love how Eck talks about Mon cala cruisers great durability then shows a clip of one being blown up by the death starđ
MAT!!!
Nice profile pic
Let's be fair, the Death Star is a planet killer.
To be fair nothing could have survived that
SCOOP DA GOOP they cannot defeat the high ground, and cannot destroy it.
ship to ship yes . ship to planet destroyer no
The power of the first Death Star's superlaser was estimated to have been more than 2.4Ă1032 watts, with an optimum range of 2,000,000 kilometers and a working range of 420,000,000 kilometers. Powerful enough to destroy a terrestrial planet, it was the most powerful energy weapon ever built at the time.
I kinda love that Mon Cal ships in canon are Buildings. That in of themselves makes them really unique and tragic in a way.
Imagine your powerful imperial navy getting defeated by mobile hotels.
the idea is interesting, but unless they use thrust-gravity (which would be VERY inconvenient in combat) the internal layout would appear vertical instead of horizontal to the people inside the ship. This means that basically everything inside the ship would appear to be standing on its side (and you'd probably need a ladder to get to your bunk up there under the ceiling).
From the movies we can see a lengthwise layout is used (from combining trajectory and interior/exterior shots) - which would meanthe interior space would not be usable as a vertical building without re-doing the entire internal structure of the ship - which although possibly feasible, would mean a ludicrous amount of work and the risk of damaging or compromising the exterior structure in the process.
@@ranekeisenkralle8265 Honestly, in a universe that has artificial gravity, I don't think its too big of a leap that the ship-buildings used it even when underwater.
I'd figure that since the mon cals developed underwater, they don't exactly have the same type of concept of "up" and "down" like us, since we evolved from arboreal creatures. Their brains are likely perfectly fine with up not being a constant direction.
But that's just speculation.
@@BoisegangGaming If you apply artificial gravity that would mean that they would have to have used artificial gravity to make "down" be one of the side walls while the ships were standing up like skyscrapers when planetside - which simply makes no sense. Remember: in the movies we have seen the vessels having a horizontal layout internally. This means the ships would have to have been laying on their bellies down at the ocean floor, adding to stress on the hull.
I do concur that it is a cool idea, but not a realisically feasible one.
And even construction-nightmares aside, then there is the transition from underwater to flight, which would cause all kinds of trouble for thrust-direction until the ship is clear of the water (also the reason why submarine-launched missiles are pushed clear of the water by pressurized gas prior to ignition)
@@ranekeisenkralle8265 Do we really want to see Star Wars give up artificial gravity?
Remember when World Devastators were a threat... me neither.
Rogue Squadron video game from the 1990's... I remember.
The lore behind them was lost on me back then. They sound so much more credible in the EU books.
Google "Von Neumann probe" to get a full understanding of how horrifying this kind of weapon is.. think of it like a mini-starforge capable of producing more autonomous starforges. Had they been deployed on a barren rock and left to build up, a year later nothing could have even slowed them down. Haste and hubris are all that defeated them.
The MC80 Liberty type Mon Cal ships were always my personal favorite.
Same
Same. I dont know if you play table top games but check out star wars armada. Super fun with little ships.
Mike Napier I just go Star Wars armada!!!
Mine too, in fact I make some personal modified MC80 Libertys in my Amino account, unfortunately one was destroyed but the other one still show those star destroyers who is boss
@@mikenapier3598 Star Wars Empire At War Is A Thing
Every Era of Jedi/Sith Lightsaber; Every Era of Mandalorian Armor or Warrior; Every Era of Battle Droid; these are just some ideas for future videos
Trevor 1205 good ideas!
The droid one has happened
VorpalSpartan now i just need the other two!
Other Two Has Happened
Asides from the end of Return of the Jedi, has Anakinâs force ghost ever been seen again in Legends? I know he appeared in front of Leia once begging for forgiveness but she rejected him, so he never appeared in front of her again. #askeck
Video suggestion/request:
X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (Legends)
lLow thats really fucked Leia
turkey fluff well leia doesnât have the same plucky naĂŻvety Luke had that let him see Anakin through Vader. All Leia really knew about Vader was
A) he was a leader in the Empire
B) he played the 2nd biggest part in the destruction of her planet
C) he tortured her on the Death Star
D) he tortured and sold Han after freezing him in carbonite
And thatâs just the movie stuff
I'm not sure, but I think he spoke to cade Skywalker
@@unnecessarilyepic1107 who's cade?
I have the Cade Skywalker comic somewhere. They used to include comics in with figures about 10 years ago.
Edit: I just looked it up and it was Lukeâs Force ghost, not Anakinâs
I quite like the MC80B and the MC90. They're both reasonably powerful and balanced warships, they look good, and the MC90 in particular looks quite graceful. And generally, Mon Calamari ships are as tough as nails. In Thrawn's Revenge, they are the backbone of my navy, along with the Quasar carrier (all hail the Quasar).
So, for those of you who think the MC80 Liberty isn't useful in Thrawn's Revenge, I want to say it is a really tough ship. On several occasions, I've had a particularly suicidal MC80 Liberty standing up to an Allegiance or even a World Devastator. Granted, the Liberty wasn't doing much damage, but her shields lasted more than long enough for my forces to regroup to deal with the enemy. And if it had been an ISD or a Victory, I'd have lost the ship, maybe the battle, because I use carriers a lot and that MC80 was covering those Quasars.
Bro those things are also a pain in the ass to try and deal with, especially when the new Republic has the majority of credit production and capital shipyards
@UCDmGYRXb0SoMt9iKCn4CIQA, it's because it's so expensive and such a high population for 4 turbolasers and 2 ion cannons. In an offensive role, the Liberty doesn't work well. In defence, where you've got other big guns like a Golan II or enough fighters to block out the sun, the Liberty works as a turbolaser sponge.
MC-80 Liberty will always be my favourite
Same
Yup, that's my personal favorite ever since I discover it, the desing is just wonderful, and its pretty strong to
Finally the last time I was this early Alderaan still had a population of 2 billion
Cristiano Chin and still had a crime
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i Wonder why alderaan had very sparse populationif it was one of first human colony
Till they're all wiped out from the 1st Death Star. Only 60,000 of the Native Alderaanians (Majority) & Alder-Esperion (Minority) survived the disaster. Now the survivors have found a new planet at the outer rim & called "New Alderaan". A safe & secret world where the Imperials wouldn't find them. They'll finally find peace & freedom & the population have grew steadily in their new home thanks of the efforts of Leia Organa, Evaan Verlaine & their new allies. But Leia has to return to the Rebel Alliance to fight the Empire & Evaan became an elected princess - That which both Leia & Evaan planted a new elective government for the New Alderaanian governemnt. Also in the sequel trilogy. New Alderaan is still remained a secret & untouch by war. Only a very few high officials of the New Republic & those from New Alderaan were the only ones know the planet's location. It is still safe again thankfully.
What's Alderaan?
*Takes about legends mon cal ships for 6 mins*
*goes to canon, talks for 20 seconds*
âWell thatâs all for today, I hope you enjoyed todayâs episodeâ
Thatâs Disney Star Wars for you in a nutshell
It is actually kind of Ecks fault. I'm not attacking him or anything, but he didn't even try to get everything about Canon Mon Calamari-Ships done.
He said we had no specifics or anything besides on the MC85 which is wrong. We have much info on the MC75 too, many variants of the MC80 or similar ships are shown in the comics, and he didn't even mention an idea for canon eras.
I know Legends is his personal speciality and that he concentrates on it, but still the good things in Canon are often just neglected by him.
At least it feels that way.
@@jonasb104 Who tf cares about disney canon? It's for the best that eck neglects that stupid excuse of a EU retcon. Why? got a problem with that? Maybe you're a disney shill lmao, who knows? đđđđ€·đ»ââïž
@@jonasb104 "I'm not attacking him or anything." HAH! You might want to re-think that statement, bro. Or maybe even better: Re-read your whole comment, take a deep breath, and acknowledge that you're a total buffoon for writing such tom-foolery in the first place.
*Thomas has never seen such bullshit before*
Amen brother! Disney star wars sucks.
Bonus pure funny ironic moment:
Jonas Brauer: "I'm not attacking him or anything."
Also jonas: *iT iS aCtUAlLy kInD oF eCk'S fAulT*
"They're also known for their sophistication, their great sensor and computer systems, and their impressive shielding and durability."
Eck's usual video montage then shows the shots of the second Death Star destroying two MC80s without difficult.
no shit the death star kills mon cals that thing was insanely powerfil
To be fair, what kind of ship can withstand a mega laser capable of obliterating an entire planet?
I've always been a fan of Mon Calamri ships, the shape and design look out of something the Covenant from Halo would use. âș
I've always been a fan of Mon Calamri ships, the shape and design look out of something the Covenant from Halo would use. âș
Looks like a zeppelin
I love the MC80 "Liberty" class. It's a classic ship.
Love Mon Cal cruisers. They are badass in Thrawnâs revenge. Best warships ever. Great video, Eck!
what about a video describing the perfect types of ship's for a specific role in your naval fleet, we see you redesign ship's and even make some, but say you have enough fund's to create your fleet's ship's from the ground up, what would you do
Now, that's an interesting idea.
I'm half sure he's made at least one in the past.
@@kurtmostat8491 I think he did on a dreadnaught, but not the full circle, no custom starfighter type design's if given the option, and no other class of ships were created, I'd be nice to see what he does
Hmm, good idea, I will probably select some of the best ships for any specific role I consider necessary, for example DP20 gunships as anti-fighter vessels, MC cruisers as all aroundes combat ships, MC90s and Nebulas as frontline combat ships, etc
Hey eck, glad you built the Eclipse in that stream a couple days ago. Watched about halfway then had to go to work then watched the rest. Good stuff!
I think you may have glossed over Raddus ship from Rogue One, the Profundity which was an MC-75 and a new ship introduced in canon
What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck
What would happen, is that the God Emperor would be pleased.
Ahhh yes that would be a brilliant vid
I love the mom calamari cruisers!
Only the moncalamari actually deserve to have a âbubblyâ design, due to thei aquatic ability
Yeah they look like submarines
@@cancelanime1507 and sea animals
what do you mean deserve? is there a reason that non aquatic ships couldnt have a bubbly design? I mean, it has advantages in terms of structural stability in real life. plus I think gungan ships being literal submarines "deserve" to have a bubbly design.
Commit pickle
Republic class Star Destroyer: Are you sure about that?
According to legends, there also was a mon cal ship that was used during the Old Republic's great galactic war.
Michael S. According to everyone, no one gives a fuck shut up.
@Michael S. Ummm... What did I say that warranted that response? The grammar isn't that bad
Sith empire (swtor era) vs galactic republic (clone wars era). Would be interesting to see how the Jedi would fare against tenebrae and the legions of sith. Anakin vs malgus and fleet comparisons, since venators were so under armed they might be a close match with harrowers.
Though it's not really shown, Venators carry a crap ton of fighters.
X83 twintail versus cf9 crossfire please
Last time I was this early, Mace Windu still had two hands!
My favorite Mon Cala is the MC-140 Scythe from the legacy era. From what I understand it's a ship designed for charging attacks seeing as most of the weapons are on the horn part.
Mon Cala presents: How to Forget The Art of A Decent Ship in 140 Years or Less.
A couple of video ideas:
Separatist Lucrehulk vs Resurgent-class Star Destroyer.
Or Malevolence vs Fulminatrix.
Beautiful video. This video contained everything I wanted to know about Mon Cala Cruisers. Keep up the good work!
My favorites are definitely the MC80 Liberty type and the Viscount.
I used to wonder why fish people would need space ships when they can easily just craft aquatic ones. But then I remembered, itâs Star Wars, no one is safe from invasion.
Mon Cal ships are just so awesome in my opinion. They look even better than imperial ships. Incredibly unique, and the space submarine look made it look very sleek.
Yes another eck video just when I complained about nothing too watch
I dont know about a more specific thing but era's for ground vehicles would be cool. If every era of just armored vehicles is too broad then maybe one for the republic and one for the sith/empire.
Hey Eck and good day to you! Thanks for this video all centered around the Mon Calamari cruiser development! I enjoyed you looking at both legends and canon to show us the development and loved the video! As an idea perhaps for your era series though I had the idea of maybe checking out the development of battlecruisers in the Empire and going up to the Dark empire in legends and Rise of Skywalker in canon? Also the clone wars period of battlecruisers can be counted, Iâm just curious about watching how they developed now! Youâve done a couple of videos about them in the past and battlecruisers are among some of my favorite ships in Star Wars! Also I hope your family is doing fantastic right now, and if you can tell Charlie heâs awesome! Also I may not be commenting on videos much for a bit as Iâve got finals coming up, but Iâll try my best to catch up after there over!
You forgot the Mon Calamari Cruisers from The Old Republic: Annihilation cover art which were at the Battle of Duro and served as Jace Malcolm's flagship, the Aegis.
I think those are Valor Class, and the artist just screwed up.
@@DarkApostleNoek They aren't. The engine array is probably most similar to the MC80a Wingless.
The book does distinguish the Valor-class (D-class it calls it) but doesn't at any point state the ships at Duro are Valor-class. Maybe they were intended to be Valor-class ships as SWTOR had a really confused art development process, but the cover shows a unique Mon Calamari variant.
Are you gonna make a video on the âleakedâ original script for episode 9
Where could someone read it about? r/starwarsleaks on reddit?
I think he did
This? czcams.com/video/-2LxCsCR1pw/video.html
Otemer no itâs the original script that they trashed
John Smith I saw it on an instagram page
I feel they would make good gunships.
Ship versus:
resurgent class battlecruiser vs mc85 star cruiser
#askeck any thoughts on legends of the galactic heroes classic and Remake?
resurgent wins, the mc85 was absolute trash because of mon mothmaâs de-weaponization
MC80A is the slickest Mon Cal Cruiser. Those wings on the sides make it iconic.
Every Era of X-wings. Please...
I've always liked the Mon Cal ships because they look kind of organic in nature.
Can you do a video about the YT series of freighters? If you haven't already.
Very cool video eck
@EckhartsLadder, Sorry, it's my favorite ship in legends so I have to correct you.
The MC80b was a purpose built warship. Its first ship was the Mon Remonda which entered service more than a year after Endor. It had reinforced hull plating (compared to the already tough MC80) multiple backup shield generators, and designed weapons blisters as opposed to the MC80s which were overmatched in almost every configuration by ISDs.
This was due to MC80s having "self-defence" laser batteries which were placed to repell pirates not bring concentrated fire on capital ships (largely due to Imperial restrictions). These lasers were later upgraded turbolasers in rebel service. But the design was still a limitation. This was removed by design with the MC80b which had most of its firepower able to be focused forward. It also included 20 Ion Cannons on top of the standard 48 turbolasers of the MC80 standard.
These design changes enabled MC80bs to stand against ISDs with parity.
Edit: Forgot to mention, great video. Thanks for this. I just had to stand up for the MC80b.
Hi eck. Love you and your channel.
Last time I was this early Yoda was being trained by N'Kata Del Gordon
That long huhđź
For the past several of your videos on your main or secondary channel you have posted, Iâve been able to watch it within the first 20 minutes of it being uploaded
I wonder if we will see the UFO-style ships that the pirates of Florrum used in live-action
These starships/cruisers videos make me want to play empire at war again(with mods XD). Good job Eck on the videos.
Thanks Eck!
You should do a video on all the different mc ships and classes like mc 30, mc 75, mc 90 etc
Hey Eck, ever thought about doing a Lore vid on ships that were not either Mon Cal or Imperial that aren't well known? The Bakuran Battle Ship, The Corellian Battle Ship, The Bothan Cruiser, and various Hape's ships for example would all be cool ships to have a review of.
Please do one (if possible idk if there is even material for it) of all the generations of droid ships example being the vulture droid one with the droid brain being one with the ship
The Providence >>>> First order and sith eternal ships. All day!!!
Thank you for explaining this. I was reading on the vast wealth of the Hapes Consortium and it mentioned about rainbow gemstones and the benchmark used to describe its value was one gemstone could fetch one Mon Calamari Cruiser. I always thought cruisers from core worlds such as Kuat, Corellia and Nubia were much more preferable but wondered why the gemstone was compared to a mon calamari ship. I know it mentioned that the Hapes currency was worth more than the new republic credit on par!
Could you go through the evolution of ships that lasted a while like the Y wing and stuff
Tarkin: "do your luxury liners really need to be that massive? It's about as large as a full size capital ship"
Mon calamari "artist": *do not question my methods*
Nice vid
I've just been calling the unnamed Mon Cal Cruiser from Galaxy's Edge the "MC90". It looks enough like one and it's easier to say, lol
It is brilliant
The best star cruisers ever made, I will pick one of these instead of a ISD every single day of the week
I would love to see a video about all known destroyed mon cals. and how. other ships to of course.
On you discord server right now, it is very cool. I'm playing as Dune Vest. Hope you are having a good day.
Oh the mon Cala hands make miracles. True heroes o7
Amazing video as per the usual. If you could do an overview and/or history of the Old Republic military army and navy featured in SW: TOR and its DLCs (or the three Great Wars), that would definitely be awesome. I remember Revan's civil war 300 years prior had something to do with its revamping, but that's about the extent of my knowledge as to how and why they reorganized.
Any chance of there being a starfighter era video(s) in the works? I'd love to watch the insane evolutions on both sides.
MC80 liberty is my favorite ship in all of star wars.
When I think of the Mediator in the Awakening of the Rebellion mod for EaW, I was struck by how weak it was compared to even an ISD1. In the game, the ISD had a bigger range and it could shoot like a dozen Turbolasers at the Mediator while the Mediator only had one Laser hardpoint in range of that ISD ^^
Subjugator Class Heavy-Crusier (Malevolence)Vs Mc85 Star Crusier (Raddus)
Ooh that would be interesting I love both those ships
Eck, I was just watching your old galactic vs with resurgent star destroyer vs the UNSC Infinity, perhaps to even the playing field you could do like a republic fleet(a less op force) like at Umbara or Ryloth and put it up against a full UNSC Fleet like the Earth fleet. You could change the size fleets but I think that would make an even battle and would just be interesting to think about
Thumbs up for the LucasArts X-Wing cutscene at the beginning
#AskEck
Droids through the ages. What were they like from the Rakkatan period through the end of Legends? Protocol droids, astromechs, assasin, combat, etc.
I think a video about the evolution of Blaster weaponry along with each variant would be interesting if it's not done already.
MC80 home one style is my favorite Mon Calamari Curser class. I also like the Nebulon B and C frigates and the Executor Class Super Star Destroyer or SSD for short. My personal favorite type of fighter ships are A wings, B wings and Y wings and If I made my own fighters I would make two new classes, the H wing and the M wing. The H wing would be a Bomber like the B wing and the M wing would be a hybrid of a bomber and a normal fighter like the X wing or Y wing. I also like the Quasar Fire class Carrier and the Star Hawk cruisers. I also like the CR90 corvettes and the Hammer Head corvettes. I like the Bellator class Dreadnoughts and I would like a Modified Mandator 4 class dreadnought ( This mandator four would have a dome over the week point to protect it and it would have turbo lasers and laser canons on the top and bottom of the ship ). Letâs just say that the Executor Class SSD is super cool, I like itâs immense size and itâs power but What I would do to update it is that in all the small spaces where fighters would try and use Trench Run Disease I would add a new kind of anti Fighter guns that are small enough to fit in all the small spaces and are fast enough to target and hit fighters, these little guns will not be as powerful as Turbo Lasers are laser canons but it would still be able to shoot down the fighters and at the rear of the ship at its underside where the engines are I would add some protection to the engines, I would add Turbo lasers and laser canons and more of the small anti fighter guns to protect the engines from being damaged by anyone trying to attack the engines. The shield generators would also be protected with some more small anti fighter guns and on the dorsal surface and underside of the ship I would add some Turbo lasers and laser canons. Those would be the updateâs I would make to the Executor class SSD, I wouldnât change the shape and design but I would add weapons to all the vulnerable places.
Eck - how about the evolution of various starfighters?
Z-95 Headhunter > T-65 X-Wing > various New Republic/GA upgrades > CF-9 Crossfire and X-83 Twintail
Or Clone Wars Era TIE prototypes > TIE/LN > X-1 Advanced > Bomber and Interceptor > various post-Endor designs including tanks, submarines, and TIE Defender > Chiss Clawcraft > Raptor (Eyeball) and Sith TIE
#AskEck
*Reminder 708*
Remember to finish the Forerunners vs The Imperium of Man faction versus video.
#AskEck how do you feel about the rumours of Jon Favreau, Dave Falloni or Michelle Rejwan taking the helm at lucas film? and what do you think this would mean for the future of cannon, legends and possible new EU content?
Can the UNSC and the Covenant survive and beat the Angel Zeruel from Evangelion on Earth when the Covenant first attacked? Zeruel appears out of nowhere in this and is laying waste to everything and everyone that it sees and gets in it's way while trying to look for Lilith on this version of Earth to start the next Impact
MC30
MC40
MC75
MC80
MC85
MC90
MC140
So many MC ships between those numbers not yet revealed.
Those gaps are often used for prototypes and concepts that never came to be.
And now there are MC95 cruisers also with 6 variants
@@ekerslithery5955 Yup
Are you looking forward to project luminous
Nobody:
Not a single person:
MC80A Home One Mon Calamari Cruiser: *Its a TRAP*
What would be interesting, is a star wars racing game with the different space ship types , using the different ship classifications on different race ways.
Lightsabers next please!!
Can you do a video on pre-episode 9 Snoke. Like all the info that is now considered wrong. In other words, how did the rest of the star wars universe view him, since palpi being alive was still a secret.
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (683rd try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*
I would like to see a versus between the quasar fire carrier and tod falks
You canât go wrong with the mon calamari
Mon calamari technology is amazing.
Every era of star fighters would be cool
Funny thing.. I just received the pole 30 min ago,... and voted for this video.. and here it is!
#askeck
Can you make one on pre clone wars republic troopers
I was wondering if you could do a short video on your opinion and what you think would happen if the Borg from star track meant The Cylon from battlestar galactica
Maybe you could do a video on the history of battle droids since you already did a video on the history of stormtroopers and clones.
I was rewatching the clone wars and in episode 217 (bounty hunters) the ship owned by the bounty hunters has a striking resemblance to that of the razor Crest, is this just a visual similarity or an actual close relative?
Love that luxury ship đâŽïž
at 2:34 is that a UNSC ship in the background looks like one of the frigates
Love mon calamari ships
#AskEck
*Faction versus battle*
The Vaygr (Homeworld) vs the Alliance (Mass Effect).
My favorite mon calamari ship is definitely the MC 75
#askeck two things.. first, why build the soverign ssd when you have the eclipse please. Second, any chance the model for the mc-80b is available? Must 3d print..
#AskEck What would you consider the perfect ship to make in all of Star Wars, if you had to design a ship from scratch? Personally, I would consider a ship with Mon Calamari shields, Hapan Ion Cannons, Mandalorian Turbolasers, and Yuuzhan Vong Dovin Basals, along with New Republic Starhawk-styled tractor beams, and a Pelleon/Imperious styled mid-section to place some of the weapons.
I would call it: The "Supernova" class Star Destroyer, since it has the best-of-the-best of everything you can get in a Capital Ship to take on other capital ships at, or greater than it's size in all of Legends. It's basically a combination of all the great qualities of major classes of Capital Ships in Star Wars Legends, along with the tractor beam of The Starhawk (which is a Canon ship), making it (perhaps) a superior ship to the Nebula-class, and even some SSDs as well.