Mobbin' Up With Meeting of the Five in Standard | Against the Odds

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  • During spoiler season I ranked Meeting of the Five as the worst rare or mythic from Streets of New Capenna. Could it be better than we think in Standard? Let's find out on today's Against the Odds!
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    0:00 Start
    4:43 Match 1
    22:39 Match 2
    37:45 Match 3
    52:55 Match 4
    1:12:15 Wrap Up
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Komentáře • 180

  • @andrewallstar2719
    @andrewallstar2719 Před 2 lety +391

    I read the title as “morbin up” I think I’m going insane

  • @bobzour
    @bobzour Před 2 lety +211

    60 card deck with only 3 of them being 4x. Truly getting back to classic Against the Odds gameplay.

  • @emiliasmith5561
    @emiliasmith5561 Před 2 lety +304

    This is the most deck ever, it has cards and it was played. This is definitely the most deck of the format

    • @TForgery
      @TForgery Před 2 lety +16

      god you're so right

    • @fukctarf
      @fukctarf Před 2 lety +43

      I liked the part where he played lands and spells. Such a deck thing to do

    • @georgepappas7874
      @georgepappas7874 Před 2 lety +22

      This is certainly one of the decks of all time

    • @chocolatepiegames3617
      @chocolatepiegames3617 Před 2 lety +9

      Definitely one of the decks that’s ever been played.

    • @3N3MYKN1GHT
      @3N3MYKN1GHT Před 2 lety +5

      I hate this copypasta

  • @petrie911
    @petrie911 Před 2 lety +171

    Seth then: Meeting of the Five is the worst mythic in the set.
    Seth now: Maybe Meeting of the Five is actually good.
    Seth in a few months: Why Meeting of the Five needs to be banned.

  • @MineRoyale.
    @MineRoyale. Před 2 lety +95

    Your lines throughout this video were very solid, which I'm sure contributed to the success of the deck. I think the real takeaway is that widespread thievery is a pretty decent card.

  • @nathanspencer6140
    @nathanspencer6140 Před 2 lety +162

    I’ve been brewing this deck for Pioneer after picking up a copy of Meeting of the Five in draft. The best part was what I got to name the deck, appropriately named “this deck could have been in an email”.

    • @corey6597
      @corey6597 Před 2 lety +15

      Please drop a decklist, this sounds too good to pass up

    • @freya002YT
      @freya002YT Před 2 lety +6

      Perfect

  • @CaptNovogrod
    @CaptNovogrod Před 2 lety +44

    I love how the opponent goes for the cocky rub ins, and then punts.

    • @matthugenberg8869
      @matthugenberg8869 Před 2 lety +6

      I feel like they were actually trying to play around removal, because Seth couldn't kill both halls with ward if he had removal in hand, but didn't realize how copying cards works. Still a major punt, but if you look at it in the way the opponent THOUGHT it works, it makes sense to do.

  • @weirddan455
    @weirddan455 Před 2 lety +11

    When I first saw this card spoiled, I could just hear "Aaagainst the Odds time" in my head and here we are.

  • @Kaleidoscope2412
    @Kaleidoscope2412 Před 2 lety +45

    If I have learnt anything, widespread thieving can be super good. Meeting of the Five was there I guess 😂

  • @alexwells5019
    @alexwells5019 Před 2 lety +16

    Meeting of the five was the first rare slot of pack 1 when I drafted new capenna. It made it all the way around the table and back to me 😂

  • @Inductium
    @Inductium Před 2 lety +10

    I love these types of against the odds, where it's just not some crazy combo to assemble. They get kind of samey

  • @Uzotrups
    @Uzotrups Před 2 lety +3

    Saffron is a yellow-orangish spice. So the lighting is actually flavorful

  • @LadyMapi
    @LadyMapi Před 2 lety +86

    I feel like this was less of a demonstration that Meeting of the Five is sneakily good, and more of a demonstration that Widespread Thieving is a potential sleeper.
    EDIT: No, seriously, Meeting of the Five only really did impressive things when you had a Widespread Thieving out. Meeting of the Five definitely feels like the weaker partner here.

    • @malcomchase9777
      @malcomchase9777 Před 2 lety +1

      What card would you use instead as the other half of that combo? In place of Meeting of the Five, I mean.

    • @thetom341
      @thetom341 Před 2 lety +14

      @@malcomchase9777 In Standard not sure, but in Pioneer and other formats the answer is clear: Niv-Mizzet, Reborn

    • @alwaysplaythegame
      @alwaysplaythegame Před 2 lety +1

      I agree, although meeting might be good enough to throw into a widespread deck.

    • @LadyMapi
      @LadyMapi Před 2 lety

      @@malcomchase9777 Expressive Iteration! :p

    • @malcomchase9777
      @malcomchase9777 Před 2 lety +2

      @@LadyMapi So, the answer is nothing then. That's the funny part about strategies. If a single card is too powerful, it's not a fun game. But when you support your main card, it does cool stuff. Widespread Thieving is clearly needed for the deck, but that's good. It means Meeting of the Five is a fair card.

  • @jakebswenka
    @jakebswenka Před 2 lety +6

    I made up a decklist called Five Color Tri Color, all about using as many 3 cost tricolor cards with widespread thieving, the capenna traffic light, and 2 enchantments, swarm intellegence and cloven casting, along with primal amulet to cast as many tricolors as possible and having the Fist of Suns Commander for it.

  • @Aaron-kq5kk
    @Aaron-kq5kk Před 2 lety +7

    Seth your energy is 10/10 and your T-shirt game is 11/10. I always tune in to see 1. What crazy new deck you're playing and 2. What awesome shirt you're wearing. Cheers!

  • @bene5785
    @bene5785 Před 2 lety +6

    Lore accurate that Xander goes down first

  • @treyconover4107
    @treyconover4107 Před 2 lety +13

    First against the odds where I saw the build around card and just thought, "I'm sorry."

  • @jargon9173
    @jargon9173 Před 2 lety +9

    The greatest deck building jank challenege from New Capenna!!!

  • @Rael199327
    @Rael199327 Před 2 lety +15

    Couldn’t you also play Rocco to tutor out any 7 mana or less creature by paying the 10? Like getting the big ones Meeting didn’t pick (Ziatora, Xander, etc)

  • @dougiedoug7543
    @dougiedoug7543 Před 2 lety +3

    OMG!! GAME ONE THO!! You do not see that everyday! That was awesome!!

  • @streiifi
    @streiifi Před 2 lety +8

    the punt of the first opponent was so awesome, ty opponent so seth can cast meeting of the five

    • @gman8133
      @gman8133 Před 2 lety

      Good god they had to have been salty after that match... That punt actually cost them everything

  • @Crazymachin3gun
    @Crazymachin3gun Před 2 lety +7

    Dang this could have been arcane bombardment part 2

  • @chocolatepiegames3617
    @chocolatepiegames3617 Před 2 lety +21

    This reminds me of the episode where you played sultai ultimatum in against the odds and then it became a meta deck. Maybe meeting of the five is actually a sleeper and is actually broken.

    • @ruesifus
      @ruesifus Před 2 lety +10

      Put those hands together. What this deck needs is some singleton ultimatums

    • @BobardeZanzibar
      @BobardeZanzibar Před 2 lety +1

      He also played hammer time before it became meta.

    • @stshahar
      @stshahar Před 2 lety +1

      I think it was "meme or dream" and he actually went undefeated with it. I miss that series.

  • @pedrobianchi2412
    @pedrobianchi2412 Před 2 lety +4

    This was wonderful.

  • @dieguitopp
    @dieguitopp Před 2 lety

    is it me, or this video was just amazing? I mean, Seth so involved on winning, and happy and wow! Seth I love you mate

  • @osaka199
    @osaka199 Před 3 měsíci +1

    That first game is the core of my ideology: never leave lethal on board. If you die on the backswing because they have the play then so be it but if you have lethal on board and you don't force them to at least find the line you're probably gonna get punished for your hubris.

  • @brockmckelvey7327
    @brockmckelvey7327 Před 2 lety +8

    I'm really curious about how you'd build a Pioneer Meeting deck, since you'd have access to a bunch more tri-color cards with Tarkir, Ikoria, and some of the Core Sets

    • @alwaysplaythegame
      @alwaysplaythegame Před 2 lety +2

      Widespread thievery is the star of this deck. Ironically I think Pioneer gives you the tools to actually cut Meeting of the Five from the deck altogether.

    • @nv_johan8711
      @nv_johan8711 Před 2 lety +1

      @@alwaysplaythegame hate it when I'm trying to build a deck around a card, and the deck just ends up better without the card that card in it- Sometimes find myself playing 61 cards for 1 copy of said card

  • @jaydenyamada2916
    @jaydenyamada2916 Před 2 lety +5

    Random thought a friend of mine had, can Dice Twin work in pioneer or is it too slow?

  • @ProdigyDH
    @ProdigyDH Před 2 lety +1

    This did a lot better than I thought it would! I think it actually has some potential

  • @catdreaming6004
    @catdreaming6004 Před 2 lety +4

    Sarulf, Realm Eater seems good in the Standard Treasure Meta.

  • @VargonDraxar
    @VargonDraxar Před 2 lety

    I'm so happy this one came out on top on the poll

  • @JStack
    @JStack Před 2 lety +3

    MATCH 1 IT POPS OFF!?

  • @manuelito1233
    @manuelito1233 Před 2 lety

    I was super turned off by widespread thieving for commander but then I always wanted to make a Niv reborn deck, time to consider then

  • @anthonymentalewicz5143

    That match one game two was so brutally lucky for your opponent, from deluge to 3 top end finishers in a row...

  • @9-b_b-9
    @9-b_b-9 Před 2 lety

    Ready for this in pioneer it was a ton of fun to watch here and there are a bunch more 3 color options. Do I hear a rhino in the distance?

  • @Atmapalazzo
    @Atmapalazzo Před 2 lety +1

    Honestly I was concerned when I saw widespread thieving spoiled. It's ability to refund one mana on anything multicolored or provide ramp for the next turn seemed primed for abuse. Thank you for confirming that I wasn not paranoid Seth, I was right, lol.

  • @3N3MYKN1GHT
    @3N3MYKN1GHT Před 2 lety +2

    This probably should be more spell slingery with the magecraft treasure guy.
    Idk would that guy make it better?

    • @3N3MYKN1GHT
      @3N3MYKN1GHT Před 2 lety

      Goldspan would make the deck better but I think xorn would make more sense, but then you kind of have too many pieces

  • @jamesrule1338
    @jamesrule1338 Před 2 lety

    Not sure if this has sold me on Meeting of the Five, but I do have a new appreciation for Widespread Thieving.

  • @caleb7882
    @caleb7882 Před 2 lety +1

    Bear, the Cord Chewer strikes again!

  • @andymccoy8393
    @andymccoy8393 Před 2 lety

    Really neat video. My only complaint is the video of Seth makes it so I can’t see how many treasures he has so I can’t fully follow the match

  • @trevoris18
    @trevoris18 Před 2 lety

    I'd like to see widespread theivery in a Niv-Mizzex reborn deck. It is a shame that it doesn't work with bring to light though since paying WUBRG isn't a replacement mana cost.

  • @capfer77018
    @capfer77018 Před 2 lety

    This really made me want to see a widespread thievery deck. Seems like it could be really good if you're not limited to 3-color spells

  • @jackpabich763
    @jackpabich763 Před 2 lety +1

    Does anyone else feel like the picture and audio don't quite match?

  • @matthewjennings7645
    @matthewjennings7645 Před 2 lety

    Would love to see Meeting of the 5 with Yorion

  • @melonyfbb
    @melonyfbb Před 2 lety +3

    yay he did meeting of the five!

  • @l33tminion
    @l33tminion Před 2 lety +15

    Worst card in the set, huh? Now do March of Burgeoning Life!

    • @derpyderperson2912
      @derpyderperson2912 Před 2 lety +3

      Do it seth! No ballllls!

    • @Darebearlovesbug
      @Darebearlovesbug Před 2 lety +3

      Wrong set. Lol

    • @LadyMapi
      @LadyMapi Před 2 lety +4

      I'd legit love to see him pull off the Spy Kit combo in Legacy.
      ...
      For anyone who isn't familiar: Spy Kit is a weird equipment from one of the Conspiracy sets that gives the equipped creature the names of EVERY non-legendary creature in Magic. As a result, you can target a token with a Spy Kit on it with a March for X=1 and tutor out ANY non-legendary creature in your deck.

  • @TheMNZGrandeRio
    @TheMNZGrandeRio Před 2 lety +6

    Now, time for the relevant question:
    What is the new worst mythic of New Capenna? All-Seeing Arbiter?

    • @MrJoberg
      @MrJoberg Před 2 lety +1

      One of the best targets in my invoke justice deck.

    • @ciaran.downey
      @ciaran.downey Před 2 lety +1

      Arbiter is a pretty messed up Kikki target, your creatures will never have power ever again

  • @hunterpressley6851
    @hunterpressley6851 Před 2 lety

    Could throw in Isshin to combo off with the connive ability

  • @alwaysplaythegame
    @alwaysplaythegame Před 2 lety

    I have a feeling this is very close to the deck that playtesters would’ve built. Not too many ways to build a deck like this.

  • @jaded718
    @jaded718 Před 2 lety

    Nimble larcenist feels like a better choice for this deck than interceptor; just more proactive in a deck that's based around a card that plays at sorcery speed

  • @Stayner
    @Stayner Před rokem

    Xander going Down first in game 1 Was spot on flavor.

  • @parkerdellinger01
    @parkerdellinger01 Před 2 lety +2

    how absurd
    I love it

  • @Candy-yh2qq
    @Candy-yh2qq Před 2 lety

    First game was a work of art

  • @jjthesecond2801
    @jjthesecond2801 Před 2 lety

    It’s kinda funny comparing meeting of the 5 to 7-8 drops of last year’s standard like Ugin and the Ultimatums. Just goes to show how much better (imo) this standard is

  • @Curt-ze6hl
    @Curt-ze6hl Před rokem

    Daaaaaaaaang. If widespread stayed around for the meeting match 3 game 1. Would've been really sweet

  • @1Shayz1
    @1Shayz1 Před 2 lety

    Now we need a Widespread Thieving deck

  • @ToxicallyMasculinelol
    @ToxicallyMasculinelol Před 2 lety

    that was a dope first game lol. sideboard doesn't really look ideal since it makes your main plan so much worse. even though they're less efficient, I think it would be better to play more 3-color cards in the sideboard instead of 1-color spells like negate, so you can swap out something like riveteers charm for more endless detours and obscura charms and interceptors, which won't ruin your deck. even nimble larcenist would be a decent sideboard card honestly, not least because it can't be negated.

  • @mrsnufflegums
    @mrsnufflegums Před 2 lety +5

    Honestly, after seeing this, I'm going to build a meeting of the five commander deck. Just debating about whether Ravos or Jodah would be more appropriate (they're both going in regardless, it's a matter of having a castable commander off of meeting of the five mana)

    • @person3176
      @person3176 Před 2 lety

      I vote for Jodah

    • @Dracinard
      @Dracinard Před 2 lety

      Jodah seems like the pick. Meeting of the Five for five mana is damn solid, then you'd be guaranteed to cast at least two spells off the Meeting. Which doesn't sound great, sure... unless those two spells are two Ultimatums. Ramos would let you storm off, quote unquote, a bit more reliably, and a colourless commander in a five colour deck is always a good idea, but if you can make a reliable enough mana base I think Jodah is just slightly more powerful.
      The one problem, of course, is that it's hard to make an actual Meeting of the Five commander deck, as you can only include one copy in the 99. Still, you can make 5 colour 3-colour goodstuff (if that makes sense) and just have Meeting of the 5 as an end game bomb. I think Jodah would be the best commander for that deck, as well - casting Ultimatums or family leaders for 5 mana is just good Magic.

    • @Ritokure
      @Ritokure Před 2 lety +2

      Jodah is probably stronger, Ramos is more in-flavor, real men play Cromat.

    • @bobwilson679
      @bobwilson679 Před 7 měsíci

      Obviously niv mizzet reborn would be the best commander

  • @jordanhanson6611
    @jordanhanson6611 Před 2 lety

    Golly gee seems to be the appropriate response to playing Meeting of the Five.

  • @weirdperson5675
    @weirdperson5675 Před 2 lety

    Idea for against the odds Panharmonicon in Explorer :) you know you want to

  • @ooja92
    @ooja92 Před 2 lety +4

    Your video covered your treasures, which made it hard to follow your lines, but otherwise cool deck. Maybe with video editing, you can put the treasure count up on the side of the screen or something.

  • @LithmusEarth
    @LithmusEarth Před 2 lety

    56 minutes in must have been recorded before June 7th, because expressive got banned in explorer and pioneer.
    105 and now after the ban.

  • @mtmoore333
    @mtmoore333 Před 2 lety +5

    It’s Mobbin’ time!

  • @21Kikoshi
    @21Kikoshi Před 2 lety

    Rip I thought Isshin (modern) won the poll...was so looking forward to it :(

  • @CL0NK_
    @CL0NK_ Před 2 lety

    Thought the title said "Morbin' Up" when I first saw it

  • @brennanmack563
    @brennanmack563 Před rokem

    It struck me as odd that Meeting of the Five had such specific requirements, but after seeing this, maybe R&D had a good reason. Imagine if it just said multicolored instead of 3 color spells...

  • @OGNoNameNobody
    @OGNoNameNobody Před 2 lety

    I think....this was a good showing. Arena season restarts in like 5 days. I'm going to brew a something based on this.
    I'll let you know how it goes.

  • @gaminggeckos4388
    @gaminggeckos4388 Před rokem +1

    7:12 Flavor win!

  • @RIHTZ
    @RIHTZ Před 2 lety

    Magic at its finest

  • @hugeheadliang
    @hugeheadliang Před 2 lety +1

    Wow match 1 game 1 and it was alr epic

  • @funkydiscogod
    @funkydiscogod Před 2 lety +1

    I've been playing with the idea of Meeting of the Five deck in Modern.
    Basically, I somehow cheat the cost to cast a Meeting of the Five, double the mana with a Doubling Cube, and then the only 3-color spell I can think of to dump all that mana into is Villainous Wealth.
    Then, I guess I would just hope that casting the top 20 cards of the opponent's library wins.

  • @fyredust960
    @fyredust960 Před 2 lety

    I read this title as "Morbin' up"

  • @WhammeWhamme
    @WhammeWhamme Před 2 lety

    mulligans to 5 is NOT Richard Garfield's fault. The Paris Mulligan and it's variants aren't part of the original game rules. Richard would have had you keep the 1-lander! :P

  • @archangeljmj6008
    @archangeljmj6008 Před 2 lety +5

    Yay I voted for this ^-^ Oh, I bet this deck sucks and is fun as hell!

  • @ashdog9235
    @ashdog9235 Před rokem

    Before meeting rotates out you should try it again

  • @schadenfreude4846
    @schadenfreude4846 Před 2 lety +2

    meeting of the five is an even worse mythic than rowdy crew

    • @caleb7882
      @caleb7882 Před 2 lety

      The mere comparison is an insult to rowdy crew lol

  • @justinauyeung1290
    @justinauyeung1290 Před 2 lety

    This meeting could have been an email...

  • @chester1882
    @chester1882 Před rokem

    Press F for Seth’s wildcards making this deck

  • @TADMOORE
    @TADMOORE Před 2 lety +2

    It's Mobbin' Time!!!

  • @bamjo9
    @bamjo9 Před 2 lety

    Do you plan to ever play the leagues on MTG Arena?

  • @hallorette5059
    @hallorette5059 Před 2 lety +8

    This card is so bad. It’s like Seth is jumping on a grenade and playing this card so we all don’t have to. Thank you for your service, Saffron Olive. :)

  • @mostlyholy6301
    @mostlyholy6301 Před 2 lety

    Imagine how good Widespread Thievery would be if you played it with GOOD cards!

  • @archebaldmurlok449
    @archebaldmurlok449 Před 2 lety

    this deck seems like it would be better without meeting tbh
    like widespread thieving is really the carry

  • @Lost77
    @Lost77 Před 2 lety

    "Three-color tribal"
    Or "Tri-bal" for short? lol

  • @nielsbom5558
    @nielsbom5558 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you imagine cracking a bunch of packs and your only being Meeting of the Five? Ugh

  • @kchortu
    @kchortu Před 2 lety

    maybe they willl make some 3 color phyrexian cards in new new new phyrexia

  • @DarkWr4ith
    @DarkWr4ith Před 2 lety

    I think I've been seeing too many memes. I read the title at first as Morbbin' Up With Meeting of the Five

  • @rodrigodepaula4198
    @rodrigodepaula4198 Před 2 lety

    I got the conclusion that Wildspred Thieveing is the actually good card that make us win games. 😅

  • @SmashPortal
    @SmashPortal Před 2 lety

    I misread the title as "Morbin' Up"

  • @sethc.1366
    @sethc.1366 Před 2 lety +1

    Morb Nixilis, anyone?

  • @princeLaharl2
    @princeLaharl2 Před 2 lety +1

    Misspelled morbin'
    Classic Seth.

  • @LeapingRat
    @LeapingRat Před 2 lety

    this should be called
    text wall the deck

  • @dwdesign2873
    @dwdesign2873 Před 5 měsíci

    1st match made me cringe so hard 😂

  • @jeramiahbarclayjr.7839
    @jeramiahbarclayjr.7839 Před 10 měsíci

    I think the card in this deck is Widespread Thieving, not Meeting.

  • @andrew1875
    @andrew1875 Před 2 lety +2

    Someone please remake The Terrible Thunderlizards with this guy voicing Scooter....He even got the looks for a live action remake😜🤘

  • @psychotropican666
    @psychotropican666 Před 2 lety

    Magic Arena lets your card BACKS be the art of existing magic cards?! That is an absurd design overlook; match 2's opponent was topdecking a revealed Damnation for the entire match!

  • @jackthebroken2084
    @jackthebroken2084 Před 2 lety

    8-mana coco. What's not to love?

  • @ArkAngel_45
    @ArkAngel_45 Před 2 lety

    Meeting feels like less good ultimatum

  • @ScionScorpio
    @ScionScorpio Před 2 lety +2

    Its Mobbin' Time!

  • @bixlorious
    @bixlorious Před 2 lety

    This deck would be better with ultimatums