Demons, but they are Harmless | Against the Odds | Explorer Magic: the Gathering (MTG)

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  • What are the odds of winning by giving the opponent Archfiend of the Dross with Harmless Offering in a Demon Tribal deck that can also win with Liliana's Contract? Let's find out!
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Komentáře • 109

  • @SymmetricalDocking
    @SymmetricalDocking Před rokem +127

    "Cats, better than demons." Best line in the video

  • @Samantho87
    @Samantho87 Před rokem +73

    You probably forgot that if you make the copy with reflection on your opponent's end step, you don't have to sacrifice it and you untap with it. Lost a bunch of letal like that in game 1. It's also an incredible mana sink when you have two reflections in play

    • @tyukan2000
      @tyukan2000 Před rokem +8

      He could also have made instant speed chump blockers

  • @TheWorldsStage
    @TheWorldsStage Před rokem +11

    I wish Harmless Offering had the same flavor text as Jinxed Idol, where it just says: "Here."

  • @1ogic948
    @1ogic948 Před rokem +28

    “Harmless Demons” is a sick deck name imo

  • @tomsmith4698
    @tomsmith4698 Před rokem +41

    They have to find an answer to Archfiend, or it will find an answer to them.

  • @simic0racle157
    @simic0racle157 Před rokem +71

    I want to see a Liliana's Contract deck based on changelings.

    • @christianbarrett3040
      @christianbarrett3040 Před rokem +2

      I play it in an ally's commander deck with maskwood nexus as the maskwood nexus enables an infinite etb loop for me.

    • @HomeCookinMTG
      @HomeCookinMTG Před rokem +1

      @@christianbarrett3040 changing creature types always leads to crazy interactions, my favorite is the card conspiracy. Its an older card that works similarly to Maskwood nexus, but you choose a creature type, and it makes all your creatures that type. The thing is, it's NOT in addition to their other types, so if you name...scarecrow, and then cast Restoration angel while you control reaper king, resto can now blink itself (because it's no longer an angel) and you get to blow up ALL THE THINGS

    • @AbyssalFury
      @AbyssalFury Před rokem +1

      Seth actually has two other contract videos using arcane adaptation in one and conspiracy in the other

    • @jk6971
      @jk6971 Před rokem

      LegendVD just did this if you're interested

  • @azuraflame1
    @azuraflame1 Před rokem +7

    at this point in time I watch more of seth play than I play. really enjoy your content and your upbeat attitude and personality.

  • @LadyMapi
    @LadyMapi Před rokem +20

    Fable is an absurd card, but I'm OK with that because it's fundamentally an enabler. Sure, it gets jammed into every deck that can play it, but it usually helps your jank do crazy stuff instead of just winning by itself. Compare that to Urza's Saga, where yeah, sure, it can tutor up one of your sweet combo pieces... but you're probably just going to end up making two Constructs and beating down in 90% of the games where you draw it.

  • @matthewsanchez7953
    @matthewsanchez7953 Před rokem +6

    Yay! I love decks that pass the kitty!

  • @dm9910
    @dm9910 Před rokem +8

    I think my version of this deck would play more Demonic Pacts and cut the Liliana's Contract and the janky demons. Getting to play 6-8 copies of offering-able cards feels like a major upgrade and they work great in multiples since you only need to be able to donate the first one

  • @Hoththefinalbattle
    @Hoththefinalbattle Před rokem +2

    I swear that Seth and I must be on the same wave length...I was play testing around with Gleeful Smash, then the Gleeful Whacking video comes out... LITERALLY YESTERDAY I was building around harmless offering and Archfiend of the Dross and then this!!!

  • @Raknarroth
    @Raknarroth Před rokem +5

    I run this in Standard with Archfiend and Fateful Handoff

  • @thedarkonegaming1
    @thedarkonegaming1 Před rokem +6

    Now that has some possession issues! in a manner of any willing force! loved this and the intro was just so cool!

  • @androkguz
    @androkguz Před rokem +1

    Special win or lose conditions should definitely have a different effect than "opponent's head explodes"
    It doesn't need to be too flashy, but it needs to be different.

  • @newhampshirenate
    @newhampshirenate Před rokem +6

    Title typo!

  • @breakingthewall2112
    @breakingthewall2112 Před rokem +1

    I agree Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire is so much better than at first glance. Seems hard to get the card search trigger but the OP doesn't want to block and lose their good creature and chumping doesn't stop it. I have it as my Commander for a demon tribal deck and as a 4 of in my Lilliana's contract demon deck and it is sooo good. Especially as a Commander can tutor everything including demonic tutor lol and Runescape Demon

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      Every time I put it in a deck it overperforms. I guess I need to play it more often :)

  • @TheGreenLightningMRT
    @TheGreenLightningMRT Před rokem +2

    I love that the tools for this combo exist in Standard right now.

  • @jrjamesson
    @jrjamesson Před rokem +6

    I know it's sort of a combo deck, but feels too fair to be running wishclaw

  • @scottevil4531
    @scottevil4531 Před rokem

    When I saw the card I knew you´d make something like this XDXD

  • @ConnorFesenmaier
    @ConnorFesenmaier Před rokem +2

    This looks hilarious 🤣

  • @ursulcx299
    @ursulcx299 Před rokem +1

    Game 2 was like "And I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling cat and your little chariot too!"

  • @thecrazycapn
    @thecrazycapn Před rokem +3

    Crim was real high on Archfiend of the Dross during prerelease. I'm sad he doesn't see more play.

    • @HomeCookinMTG
      @HomeCookinMTG Před rokem +2

      It's because of the fact that fatal push is in older formats and there's too much life gain stalling going around in standard. spending your fourth turn tapping out for a creature that doesn't impact the board immediately is a death sentence in Historic/pioneer usually, and in standard if your opponent can chump it/live through all four attacks, then you're stuck having to kill your own demon, or lose to it.

    • @johannanish9749
      @johannanish9749 Před rokem +1

      At least it's like the best rare to pull in draft, so there's that.

  • @kokioen
    @kokioen Před rokem +7

    "Fable might be a good card" - more news at eleven

  • @theornerytrilobite
    @theornerytrilobite Před rokem

    I totally forgot Harmless Offering was on this client lmao. This is great. Also, Ammit Eternal is The Truth.

  • @jameshayes-barber9340
    @jameshayes-barber9340 Před rokem +2

    7:46 could have made a token to block with

  • @domri4203
    @domri4203 Před rokem

    I was trying this a few weeks ago. Hope it went better for you.

  • @forgottenking3326
    @forgottenking3326 Před rokem

    i got a good historic/pioneer/modern/legacy vintage 2 card combo: vorinclex, monsterous raider- vraska betrayals sting.

  • @strika234
    @strika234 Před rokem +20

    why not run fateful handoff? draw 4 seems better for an extra mana than harmless offering unless im missing something

    • @demiurge2501
      @demiurge2501 Před rokem +4

      I don’t have fateful handoff memorized but if I remember correctly handoff doesn’t work with enchantments

    • @MrTJeffords
      @MrTJeffords Před rokem +4

      @@demiurge2501 Correct. But there is only one Demonic Pact so that isn't as much of a setback.

    • @cris5555
      @cris5555 Před rokem +6

      You want to use the offerings to win the game most of the time, so drawing or not doesn't matter, that makes the harmless offering better as it cost 1 less

    • @MistaZiggy
      @MistaZiggy Před rokem

      @@cris5555 there are cases where you clone the archfiend and then donate it

    • @the_r4ts
      @the_r4ts Před rokem +3

      Handoff works better for donating things that don’t instantly kill your opponent like if you need to wait a few turns those extra cards can help you get there.. but this deck doesn’t really have that issue plus it can’t deal with an opponent’s demon without outright killing it so it’s just better to go for the combo

  • @andrewnelms1420
    @andrewnelms1420 Před rokem +2

    You know you can reflection on end step for an extra token next turn?

  • @cuddlequeen3225
    @cuddlequeen3225 Před 7 měsíci

    This is fricken hilarious.

  • @edgarpettijohn8215
    @edgarpettijohn8215 Před rokem +1

    Crewing is an activated ability so pithing needle would shut down the chariot as well

  • @djumisaid
    @djumisaid Před rokem

    sweet... sweet, sweet

  • @alaraplatt8104
    @alaraplatt8104 Před rokem

    "ShawnaTapThatMTG" is one of the absolutely adorable co hosts of the youtube channel Tap That MTG

  • @Spotifist
    @Spotifist Před rokem +1

    Oh man this is HOT ! Gotta make something similar, thanks for the video!

  • @Nitestorm1985
    @Nitestorm1985 Před rokem

    What about the 4 cc black offering that’s in ONE that’s offering 5-8 and I would concentrate more on removal and setup the offering plan with either pact and/ or demon. At least that’s how I have my version setup

  • @jameshayes-barber9340
    @jameshayes-barber9340 Před rokem +2

    What was that demon dialogue from?

  • @Midnightv
    @Midnightv Před rokem

    I really think this is a try again type of situation because there were a few things that could have been done to mitigate some of those harsh match ups

  • @pr0fess0rbadass
    @pr0fess0rbadass Před rokem +1

    When jank can beat a top meta deck, you know it's a pretty healthy format.

  • @dementievatz
    @dementievatz Před rokem

    I tried to play Archfiend fairly in Pioneer a little, and I think the first time I got one down my opponent hit it with Heartless Act!!!

  • @xLegendaryPete
    @xLegendaryPete Před rokem

    Wow , 2 videos in one day? We are spoiled

  • @kuja130
    @kuja130 Před rokem

    after running this deck in historic since the day all will be one dropped I've run into it a few times. just hit it with an ephemerate

  • @Soulryu11
    @Soulryu11 Před rokem

    Couldn’t you foretell at the end of your turn, so that dream devourers pump stays until the end of the following turn?

  • @lukemorgan6003
    @lukemorgan6003 Před rokem

    Now that Shadows over Innistrad Remastered is back in arena, I’m really hoping for some janky explorer decks. Maybe Offspring’s Revenge + Tree of Perdition?

  • @charlesmartin4588
    @charlesmartin4588 Před rokem

    you say no one's expecting a donated arch-fiend...welp, that kitty is outta the bag now!

  • @HomeCookinMTG
    @HomeCookinMTG Před rokem

    against that aura deck in game two, I think the line w/ fatal on sram should have been to thoughtseize and take all that glitters, then when he tries to load up sram on his turn, fatal push. Could have gotten rid of two auras and the creature that way.

  • @tiagogarcia4900
    @tiagogarcia4900 Před rokem +7

    What's the narration at the start?

    • @loz9324
      @loz9324 Před rokem

      its from star wars episode 4

    • @PhetaFox
      @PhetaFox Před rokem

      ​@@loz9324 def not lol

    • @PhetaFox
      @PhetaFox Před rokem

      Just went and found it. I thought it was going to be a demon slayer intro monologue, but it's apparently a Lion of Judah sermon.

    • @loz9324
      @loz9324 Před rokem

      @@PhetaFox yes but Darth Vader also says it

    • @PhetaFox
      @PhetaFox Před rokem

      @Loz says what specifically?

  • @JoshRudis
    @JoshRudis Před rokem

    Virulent plague out of the sideboard for the tokens matchup would have been decent.

  • @Kaalia0202
    @Kaalia0202 Před rokem

    You could call the deck "Pact City"

  • @bene5785
    @bene5785 Před rokem

    How about Fateful Handoff?

  • @silverfoxbro4168
    @silverfoxbro4168 Před rokem

    Against the odds? More like against the dross am I right
    No but seriously, always diggin the janky fun lists 🤘

  • @kirbi200
    @kirbi200 Před rokem

    Cats tribal plz!!

  • @Kindaichi83
    @Kindaichi83 Před rokem +1

    Or, hear me out, you could play Archfiend of the Dross and then enchant metamorphic alteration onto an opponent’s creature to turn it into Archfiend without oil counters.

    • @Kindaichi83
      @Kindaichi83 Před rokem

      @@TheWorldsStage metamorphic alteration is an aura that turns enchanted creature into a copy of another creature. It doesn’t trigger any etb.

  • @Crusina
    @Crusina Před rokem

    suprised not even a single copy of fateful handoff.

  • @cactuarnoob100
    @cactuarnoob100 Před rokem

    TALiiiiiiS man MVP

  • @TheMegaMagikarp
    @TheMegaMagikarp Před rokem +1

    Cats better than demons? Seth, cats ARE demons. I own one, I know.

  • @SublimeSublemon
    @SublimeSublemon Před rokem

    If only reflections of kiki had an ability...

  • @mistysowards7365
    @mistysowards7365 Před rokem

    This demon is actually good in modern btw...

  • @MistaZiggy
    @MistaZiggy Před rokem +1

    No “fateful handoff” redundancy smh

  • @michaelking7391
    @michaelking7391 Před rokem

    Demons, but they have harmless

  • @person3176
    @person3176 Před rokem +2

    around 8:45 where you need a good name for the deck.. how about Archfiend's Heartless Offering

  • @mazein90
    @mazein90 Před rokem +1

    Rakdross

  • @kamikazebanzai1005
    @kamikazebanzai1005 Před rokem

    Demons but they*ve* harmless

  • @bjarkov12
    @bjarkov12 Před rokem

    I intensely dislike the contract play crappy demons plan but offering dross is cool

  • @merlebrown7664
    @merlebrown7664 Před rokem

    Your contents are really nice and there are so many online jobs that pays up to $3250 daily for posting contents like this on social media 🤓

  • @colinthornton3806
    @colinthornton3806 Před rokem +1

    Bothers me way more than it probably should, but its been like weeks now so I feel like I have to point it out, there's no s in the middle of brotherhood's end

  • @seifeir6951
    @seifeir6951 Před rokem

    They've harmless what??

  • @mistysowards7365
    @mistysowards7365 Před rokem

    Their harmless

  • @Silvermankitty
    @Silvermankitty Před rokem

    .......no one is gonna call out seth for saying triple instead of tron?

  • @adamtobiasz8793
    @adamtobiasz8793 Před rokem +1

    Dear brother Set, you have suddenly become a mean evil brother. This is surprising. 😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @tomjackal5708
    @tomjackal5708 Před rokem

    game 1 against toxic you just,, scooped? didn't even bother waiting for the next topdeck??

  • @DefinitelyDave
    @DefinitelyDave Před rokem

    Meow

  • @iamthetable8131
    @iamthetable8131 Před rokem

    They've

  • @bart0nius
    @bart0nius Před rokem

    they've

  • @dabmi2890
    @dabmi2890 Před rokem

    *They’re

  • @YourCrazyOverlord
    @YourCrazyOverlord Před rokem

    Wtf was that intro?

  • @gaivscaesar
    @gaivscaesar Před rokem

    flicking the cards in hand over and over and over again is really annoying

    • @dementievatz
      @dementievatz Před rokem

      Oh man, at least it’s not in paper. Such a weird obnoxious tic.

  • @briancosgrove3261
    @briancosgrove3261 Před rokem

    Yeah can't watch this vocal fry

  • @OGTahoe3
    @OGTahoe3 Před rokem

    I've always had a deep hate for these "Give your stuff away to kill" decks. It never is a fun match up and always feels bad

    • @phatpeople1234
      @phatpeople1234 Před rokem

      then don’t watch. why make a comment like that?

    • @OGTahoe3
      @OGTahoe3 Před rokem

      @@phatpeople1234 to give the content creator an idea of what some audience might think