Differences Between The Best HiFlow Air Cleaners Made
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you two do a great job with all this! TY
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Thank you for this video. I think you've answered my question I had planned to email you. I was wanting to run the Harley Accessory Nostalgic Bar & Shield air cleaner cover on my Sportster 72 mated to the Transformer setup.
Thank you for looking at our parts, and for the kind words.
Yes, that will work. 828 with Transformer™ for the Oval Nostalgic Bar & Shield air cleaner cover. If you are wanting the round Nostalgic Bar & Shield air cleaner cover, then use the 587 or 606 with the Transformer™.
Thanks for this video... I was thinking about the 425 for my 08 street glide, but will probably go with the 606.
Good choice! The 425 will be a bit too little air flow at high RPM for the Twin Cam.
Thank you, very informative!
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Great video!!!
Thank you, glad you like it. 👍
I like the idea of the external crankcase breather, it gives you the option to direct it to the a dump can
Yes, a lot of folks like the Catch-Can option. One of the benefits is that you can see what you are stopping from going into the engine.
Have you thought about making velocity stacks with a copper mesh screen?
Super free flowing and has that retro look too. 👌
We have not. But we do have Customers that have painted the Stainless mesh screen a variety of colors. You could paint it a copper color and get what you want, while still having the strength of the Stainless mesh.
Badass looking air box
Thank you!
Cool oil and Clean air!
Two Huge Keys to Performances & Longevity. 👍
Would you still need a crank case breather from the oil dip stick with your external breather? I’m interested in picking up the 636v and showcasing it on my channel.
You do not need the oil dip stick breather if you use one of our External Breather Systems. I believe you will be very pleased with the Outlaw 636v .
I actually like the look of the OEM air box on my 2021 StGlide, but thinking about its large backplate size and it's close proximity to the cyinders if heat trap is an issue..or should that factor alone be a concern? Currently I have my tank front lifted 20mm, added oil cooler fan, crankcase vented, cobra 909 slip ons with baffles and Torque Inserts, getting 46- 49 mpg regularly, I'm thinking about improving air intake flow..wondering about a K&N 1717 filter only, if it would be a noticeable improvement..or if looking into your new convertible air box might yield a better performance gain(?)
The hot box is definitely a power robber. (see video below)
The filter will be an improvement over the OEM filter. Using a set up like linked below with your stock cover is an even larger improvement.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/naked-complete-hiflow-606-air-cleaner-harley-milwaukee-eight-dk-ac606-nk-m8.htm
czcams.com/video/tJXGEwLCNDw/video.html
I have a 2011 otra limited and I already have the round Canaan filter I was wondering what do you recommend which filter try put on and how much would it cost me thanks.
Please contact Dwayne at Support@DKCustomProducts.com or at 662-420-4891, he'll be able to help you out.
Very interesting. Does extra tuning need to be done with any of these air cleaners for an 883?
All EFI (2007 and later) Sportsters run too lean from the factory, even when running the stock air cleaner and exhaust. If you do not already have free flow intake and exhaust, along with a matching tune, then you will want to richen up your AFR when putting one of these on.
Here is a link to the different tuners we use and recommend. (the X or ViED's work really well on Sportsters for this situation.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/efi-tuners-c74-284.htm
Here is a video you may find useful/interesting-
czcams.com/video/0vbTkRvFa80/video.html
I have a stage 2 on My Milwaukee 8 with a Screamin Eagle air cleaner similar in shape to your 828. Would your cleaner work any better than the Harley system on my bike
Yes, the 828 will work much better because of the External Breather System. The air cleaner you have now is feeding hot, oily, oxygen depleted air into the intake. This is a power robber, and also created tune instability and other problems. However, you can get an EBS for the air cleaner you have now and then it will function very similarly to the 828.
Here is a video link you may find useful- czcams.com/video/EfDeFZblMck/video.html
Here is a link to EBS options- www.dkcustomproducts.com/all-twin-cam-engines-c76-244.htm
Watched a few videos on the air cleaners, I don't hear too much about the Vanes and Hines air cleaners. When I bought my bike, it already had Vanes and Hines exhaust but still have the stock air cleaner. Would like to change it out in the future. So what is your opinion on the Vanes and Hines compared to DK customs air cleaners?
Vance & Hines air cleaners are good, but the main difference between our Air Cleaners and the Vance & Hines is that all of our Air Cleaners are externally vented. The biggest advantage comes in venting your air cleaner externally so that your motor will get the cool dry air instead of hot oily air.
Thanks for commenting! 👍
I like the fact that the 636V doesn’t hit my leg when running forward controls!
Mine either. Was just talking to someone the other day that did have his knee up against the elbow, but for most it gives really good clearance.
Glad you're enjoying and we appreciate your business.
So I have a 2020 Road Glide W/stage 1 done by H D so al I need is the EBS kit correct if so what do you suggest?
Can't say it is "all you need", but an EBS will fix the nasty stuff going into your intake/combustion thru that SE air cleaner. Give Dwayne a call or email and let him know which air cleaner you have and he can point you to the EBS that will fit it. 662-420-4891 or Support@DKCustomProducts.com
Have a 23 trike, which is best for me and lowest profile. Not going to go crazy with this one , maybe pipes and a tune down the road.
Thanks
The lowest profile for your 23 is the 587, and right behind that the 828. You can see them both at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/air-cleaner-intake-c10-383.htm
I would like to know how to raise my tank on my heritage classic with out the windshield bracket hitting the tank
Send photos to Support@DKCustomProducts.com and we can help.
We have thousands of Twin Cam Heritage Classics running the tank lift linked below with no ones factory windshield bracket hitting the tank.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/softail-model-tank-lift-kit-dk-sft-tlk.htm
Here is a walk around video of mine that has had the above tank lift on it for 10 years.
czcams.com/video/3ILbTGJqViY/video.html
I purchased a Performance Machines Air Cleaner and would like externally vent (it has a built in breather system similar to the stock setup). Would using your backplate work? Or is it better to mod the existing parts to get over the line? M8 2018 Fatboy
It depends on which PM Air Cleaner you have. If you email a photo or PM part #, we can let you know if you can swap out just the backplate, or if it would be better to get an External Breather System for the PM intake.
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1:50 the badass one. DKcustom, please can you review this ' horse ". Thanks
We don't know much about this bike. All we have is this photo that a Customer sent in of his ride with our Outlaw Hi-Flow 425 Air Cleaner with Breather Bolts. He is also running the Titanium Exhaust Wrap ( www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm ) from us. Lots of other stuff done to it from the photo, wheels, springer, solo seat, modded rear fender.
@@DKCustomProducts Thanks DK
Hi, I have a 2012 ultra limited with a twin cam 103. What's the best air filter set up for my bike? I want to do a stage 1, exhaust and tuner. I will appreciate what ever suggest. ( Curtis)
All of our Air Cleaners work the same.
Our most popular for touring model bikes are the 606 seen at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/twin-cam-model-hiflow-606-air-cleaners-complete-systems-c643-298.htm
or
the 828 seen at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/twin-cam-outlaw-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-complete-systems-99.htm
Either one will give you more than enough air for your bike.
Here is a report that may help you make the best decision on which air cleaner you want for your bike and riding - www.dkcustomproducts.com/differences-between-outlaw-hiflow-air-cleaner-systems-dk-faq-acs.htm
Please feel free to contact us with any questions or concerns:
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
Thank you for commenting! 😎
I have the Arlen Ness 18-457. Do you guys make a new back plate that’s uses an outside breather setup??
We do not make a backplate that will work with the filter element from the 18-457. You can use any of the External Breather Systems at the following link with the 18-457 to convert that air cleaner to allow only cool, clean, oxygen rich air into your engine.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/diy-external-breather-systems-368.htm
@@DKCustomProducts I looked at all your breather kits....they require the use of stock breather bolts ( not included in the kit) those bolts are not long enough to use with this backing plate..... back to the drawing board boys!
Hows the finish on the 636V intake is it gloss black or satin cant really tell?
It is Not a High Gloss, Nor is it a Satin finish. It is what is called a Semi-Gloss (or low gloss) powder coat finish.
Are y’all open to public are just online ordering? Just was wondering cause there’s not a lot of businesses in the south like the big places
Up until CoVid we were open to the public coming by and checking out the shop, picking up parts, looking at bikes, etc.. Since March 2020 we are running only a skeleton crew at the shop, with half the DK Team working from home. You are still welcome to stop by...just call or email first to make sure there is someone that can meet up with you. Support@DKCustomProducts.com 662-252-8828 No large groups, couple people at a time max.
What's the difference in power between the 636v and the bigger 828 on a M8 114? (Assuming the 828 is available)
The 828 is available for M8's. You can see them at the following link. Also, there are 3 new designs for the 828 being introduced this coming weekend, if you decide you want an 828, you may want to look on Saturday or Sunday to see if you like any of the 3 new cover designs. www.dkcustomproducts.com/milwaukee-eight-outlaw-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-complete-systems-40.htm
Regarding the difference in power between the 636v and the 828, typically you will see between 2-4% More power out of the 636v. The 636v has a patent pending design that generates a Venturi Effect that gives a bit more of a fresh charge on each combustion stroke. Depending on how you ride, you may or may not be able to feel the difference.
I have a 2021 Heritage 114. I will be getting a Stage 2 upgrade this Spring with an S & S 475C Cam. Two questions;
1) Is my stock air box along with your external breather sufficient?
2) If not, will my OEM 114 cover fit on your 828?
Thanks!
The stock air box is holding the OEM build back, and will really hold the Stage 2 back. It simply cannot flow enough air.
The 828 will not work with your stock cover, but the 606 at the following link is specifically made to fit your OEM cover.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/naked-complete-hiflow-606-air-cleaner-harley-milwaukee-eight-dk-ac606-nk-m8.htm
Thank you so much! I learn so much from your videos and comment sections. My "To Do List" of D K Customs parts are slowly coming together.......
@@Digger456437 Awesome man, thanks for watching! We are always happy to help, we appreciate your business & support.
Have a 21 TG with Reinhardt 4" slip ons. Dealer told me last week with new update to computer I cannot install high flow air cleaner without tuner. True?
Unless, at some point someone installed a worse than OEM tune on your bike, you are good to go with the OEM tune. Here is a video on the subject- czcams.com/video/Lb_57Z_Ipms/video.html
@ 3:25 you mention you sell the backplate only for those of us that allready have a stage one screaming eagle air cleaner... I cant seem to find it on your website, I would like to purchase one along with the catch can kit. Please advise and Thanks guys.
Preferably chrome
Not sure what bike you have-
www.dkcustomproducts.com/naked-hiflow-606-air-cleaner-back-plate-dyna-softail-touring-rushmore-w-no-filter-element.htm This is for a Twin Cam.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/naked-stage-i-hiflow-606-air-cleaner-back-plate-w-no-filter-element-sportster.htm This is for a Sportster
If you have an M8 engine, give us a call or an email. We can do that too. Not sure why it is not on the site.
It's a 2016 street glide special, thanks for getting back to me , I'll be ordering one soon along with the catch can and probably a reusable oil filter.
Cool. We appreciate Your business and believe you will be very happy with those parts.
I have a Harley 2016 Fxsb breakout. I want your Transformer plate .. will it work with the 587 outlaw air cleaners you sell and will they both work with my bike? thanks so much
Yes, it will work with the 587, and they will both fit your bike.
Feel free to email or call with any questions.
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
@@DKCustomProducts awesome thank you!
Ordered them!! Super excited to keep that oil out of the intake !
Thanks much!
@@brokenarrow420 Good deal man! Your bike will certainly thank you! We appreciate your business!
Does the 606 with the stock M8 cover flow well enough for state 2 kits?
Yes, it does, more than enough.
@@DKCustomProducts Thank you.
What would you recommend for my 2021 Triglide 114 engine?
The 828 has a slight performance edge over the 587 and 606. The 587 and 828 are lower profile than the 606, so if right leg room is important, then either the 587 or 828.
All three have many options in covers, for a big variety of different looks.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/air-cleaner-intake-c10-376.htm
Does the 606 fits on my stock 2020 Roadglide stock box ?
It does not. It replaces your stock box. However, you can get a 606 that utilizes your stock cover. You can see it at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/naked-complete-hiflow-606-air-cleaner-harley-milwaukee-eight-dk-ac606-nk-m8.htm
WOW This is a Big surprise ❗Almost as much as that beard that looks like a dream catcher 😎
A good Air Cleaner, with Cool, fresh, oxygen rich air is the foundation for all other engine mods! 👍
The question i have does this void the factory warranty
Only if they see it. Per the Federal Law of the Consumer protection act it does not, BUT Harley and the EPA entered into an illegal agreement so that on 2017+ Harley's, any change to the engine voids the powertrain warranty. Rather than fight their illegal collusion, if you ever need to take the bike in for warranty work, it is easy to remove the air cleaner and put the stock one back on. Takes about 15 minutes.
That way you can run what you want to on your bike and not have any issues.
Is the 828 the only model that covers the transformer fully? I put a 587 on and love the performace results but hate the look on my blacked out m8. Bad choice on my part. I gotta replace the air cleaner asap.
Hi Matthew, Thanks for the comment! Yes, the 828 is the only one that hides the Transformer. IDK if it interests you to paint the Transformer black but is does look pretty good painted. We will be releasing a video next week, on Tuesday... Showing one of our guys in the shop installing a black Transformer. It turned out very nice -DS
@DKCustomProducts awesome yea I thought about painting it. I may just do that when I swap to the 828.
Cool glad to help! Thank you for commenting! MB
I'm interested in the 828
Thank you for looking at our parts. Here is a link to where you can get an 828- www.dkcustomproducts.com/outlaw-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-complete-systems.htm
You can also order by phone or email, or get any questions answered at below contact info-
Support@DKCustomProducts.com
662-252-8828
If I put a new air cleaner an Vance an hines pipes in would I have to tune my bike ..I know it prob run lean but would it hurt my 2007 super glide
All Twin Cams since 2007 run too lean from the factory. Even in stock condition, they will benefit greatly from richening up the AFR. You can see some inexpensive ways to do that at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/xied-vied-fuel-management-c121-260.htm
When adding open pipes and/or air cleaner, it is important to richen it up to reduce heat damage.
Here is a video on the subject- czcams.com/video/gOeJ6Mx_mQo/video.html
@@DKCustomProducts thank this helps alot this is the way imma go for sure
@@marshallartsncards4890 Cool, glad it helped. Appreciate your business.
Contradiction in the video and what you have on your web page. On your web page, the 425 is stated as, "The Outlaw HiFlow 425 System will give your Twin Cam the Air it needs to Produce Maximum Power. CLEAN AIR - No dirty air routed back in! ". I baught one and yes, it's not good enough for my Twin Cam, but I went along with the information provided on your web page which should be updated. I had found this video after the purchase and wish it was the other way round. The product is very well made, but again, the customer should have all the information provided to him that isn't contradictory and shouldn't have to accidently find videos that prove that he's baught the wrong product.
Karol, First, let me apologize for the confusion caused by the discrepancy between our video and the information on our website. We deeply regret any frustration this has caused you.
We are currently updating our website to include the following information: "The Outlaw HiFlow 425 System will give your Twin Cam the air it needs to produce maximum power, up to 4000 RPM. If you regularly ride at RPMs higher than 4000, then it is best to get a 587 or larger intake. While it may not be optimal above 4000 RPM, it is still a significant improvement over the stock intake."
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We would be happy to exchange your 425 for a 587 or 606 Air Cleaner. Please email our customer service at Support@DKCustomProducts.com to initiate the exchange.
Once again, we apologize for the oversight and appreciate your feedback. We are committed to ensuring that all future customers have accurate information. Thank you for your business and for commenting! 👍 MB
@@DKCustomProducts Hi MB.
Thanks for your reply.
Like I mentioned, it's a great product, and I specifically enjoyed having the catch can which helped in keeping the oil out of the filter.
I would gladly exchange it for a 587, but I don't think I have the box anymore and I am since selling the bike I had rebuilt.
I'm currently running an S&S teardrop on it and will opt out of the exchange option since I'm across the pond and it wouldn't be cost efficient for me.
Nevertheless, the mere fact that you responded in the way you did, says alot about your approach to your customers, which in today's world is rare.
Very kind regards,
KD
I am sorry that you were nor given all the information in the beginning and very glad that you shed some light that we were missing that important information on our product page.
If you decide to go with another Air Cleaner in the future please let us know and maybe we can work out something so that you are not out of a too much more money!
We truly appreciate your business and thank you for commenting! MB
What about Velocity stacks ?
There are three reasons we did not include the Velocity Stacks in this video:
1. This was more on the differences between the Round style K&N filter Performance Air Cleaners
2. While the Velocity Stacks are MUCH better than the stock air cleaner, they do not deliver as much performance increase as the 425, 587, 606, 636v or 828 Performance Air Cleaners. We know this goes against popular opinion. But the way the air flows AFTER it goes past the filter element is crucial to performance increase. The V-Stacks don't flow quite as well as the Outlaw Air Cleaners in this video. That is not to say the flow poorly, they are a HUGE improvement over stock, but they just don't have as much surface area as the others.
3. We are in the process of redesigning our V-Stacks. We have a few more tweaks and testing, they should be out soon.
Back plate only... nice to know
Yeah, no reason to buy the same filter element twice!
What outlaw air cleaners do offer for 2021 CVO?
Thanks for looking at our products. Which 2021 CVO? The non-fairing CVO's Can use any of the 587, 606, 636V, or 828 air cleaners at the following Link, the fairing CVO's can use them all except for the 636V (there is not enough space for a big enough filter).
www.dkcustomproducts.com/air-cleaner-intake-c10.htm
Feel free to write or call us with any questions. We appreciate your business.
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@@DKCustomProducts 2021 CVO Street Glide
@@elvisman8721 Congrats on the new ride!!! Any of the Outlaw 587, 606, 636V or 828's will work!
how much is an outlaw 587 $$$. tks.
There are many different versions of the 587, you can see them all at the link below. They range from 189 to 239
www.dkcustomproducts.com/twin-cam-model-air-cleaner-systems-c78-219.htm
What people really want to know are flow numbers & dino numbers
Put a stock one one, show the numbers, swap it out for yours, do nothing more, show the numbers
I can't find this anywhere
No concrete numbers, just, this one allows more, not how much more, just more
I need numbers
We all need numbers
Bring us numbers or shut it down
We have a dozen or so videos on the dyno, with stock installed, then without taking the bike off the dyno, we install aftermarket and run it again.
We also have dozens of charts on our website.
Here are just a couple of links-
czcams.com/video/KT-Ts7YFtV0/video.html
www.dkcustomproducts.com/differences-between-outlaw-hiflow-air-cleaner-systems-dk-faq-acs.htm
What about for a 131 M8 what’s best one for that
Both the 636v and 828 will flow more air than the 131 can breathe. The 636v will have a slight edge in performance due to the patent pending design which increases intake velocity due to the Venturi Effect.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/outlaw-hiflow-636v-air-cleaner-system-harley-milwaukee-eight-dk-ac-636v-m8-cs.htm
@@DKCustomProducts can’t use the 636 I have lowers on with 8” speakers. Also 131 has a 64mm throttle body vs 107 55mm throttle body
@@Heavy69Metal 828 is the way to go. Using an adapter to step it up to your TB is what some of our Customers have done.
@@DKCustomProducts explain stepped up
@@Heavy69Metal A ring that goes between the back of the air cleaner and the opening of the throttle body. One side of the ring (adapter) fits/bolts to the backplate of the air cleaner, the other side fits/bolts to the throttle body.
We do not make them, but we have a few Customers that have needed them for jobs like yours and they have had them fabbed up.
They look like what is seen in the photo at this link-
img.jpcycles.com/zoom/404-416_A_V1.jpg
All these filters are open. My opinion, not good for the Florida afternoon thunder storms.
Thanks for watching the vid.
The 425, 587, 606 and 828 ALL have options for covers over the filter element so that one can ride in a downpour, without a rain sock, and have not issues.
Example of two different covers for the 828 can be seen at the following links-
www.dkcustomproducts.com/chrome-speed-fin-complete-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-milwaukee-eight-1950.htm
www.dkcustomproducts.com/chrome-speed-fin-complete-hiflow-828-air-cleaner-milwaukee-eight.htm
Where is the lady
Only Dwayne knows. lol
Its too bad harley doesnt build their bikes with the right parts. Thier shit works but its junk. Spent lots of money putting parts on my bike that wont cook it at 50 thousand.
Harley is a public corporation that answers to their shareholders. They also have to build to meet EPA and CARB requirements. Since the vast majority of their Customers don't ride more than 3500 miles a year, they build what will meet their Customers needs, meet government standards, and give the most profit to their shareholders.
Contrast that with DK. We build for folks that ride a lot. So we build parts that have a lifetime warranty, parts that will make the bike run stronger, safer, longer, handle better and be more comfortable.
We answer only to our Customers, because they are who pay us.
@@DKCustomProducts the more of your videos I watch, the more of your products I want to buy. You guys explain the why and how so well. Much appreciation to you. And I dig the beautiful thumbnails
@@fxrmike5145,
Same here
Where is that lady in the bikini 👙 👀
Only Dwayne knows! 😀
I'm not buying anything from people that can't get drywall hung where they make videos.
If you were looking for a drywall expert you are on the wrong page!
If you are looking for Motorcycle parts maybe you can excuse that!