Do You Need Thick Skin to Be a Pundit? 😬 Simon Jordan, Martin Keown and Jim White Debate 🔥
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No-one should be physically attacked for being a football pundit. It blows my mind that people get so emotionally invested that they think it’s ok to take their anger out on anyone.
Agree
I don't think anyone is attacked for being a pundit, some people are overly attached to their team and take any criticism personally. It's worse now these idiots can spread their conspiracy theories on line
I agree, except the part about being surprised. There are people that murder other people for no legit reason, so this type of behavior should hardly be shocking.
The clown who tried, and failed, to headbutt Keane was out of order and should be banned from the ground.
Having said that, Keane was allegedly goading Arsenal fans when he 'thought' Utd had scored the winning goal
The whole incident was avoidable.
@@phildemetriou440He was giving his opinion. Why is that deliberately goading?
Like Tyson says people are too used to saying things without being punched in the face. Social media has only exacerbated it and given people the impression that they can say things that they wouldn’t normally say out loud.
You don't need thick skin - you just need to be thick.
How Sturridge got a job at Sky Sports i'll never know.
How you got internet to comment such rubbish is baffling.
I imagine a lot baffles you, Daz. Running water, sliced bread, why Brexit didn't work.
@@mansnotbot4160😅
Sturridge makes the racists feel uncomfortable because he acts naturally like he would in his everyday lifestyle
When Jack Grealish does the same thing he gets praised for being an everyday bloke
Lol I get it but sturridge was genuinely a top player in his short time. Nobody complains much about the likes of scholes or Owen.
Find a woman that looks at you the way Jim looks at Simon 😂
6 mins in and Simon hasn't said a word. The longest I have seen him stay quiet.
He’s a good 👍 listener‼️🙄😆
it's because he doesn't want to be physically attacked
Shame that a few idiots spoil our love of football. I’m a Leeds fan but there are many players who played against us that I admired and respected and from many clubs. The best experiences I’ve had is with people who respect your club and you can have a mature conversation.
Martin and that famous Arsenal back four were class.
3:58 simons face says it all 😂😂
😂😂😂
😂😂😂 great find sir
Simon's a bit of a brat isn't he 😅
Not about pundits.. But about ex-footballers.
I live about 20 minutes from Bristol. Where there is a "rivalry" between Bristol City and Bristol Rovers.. No idea why. They're both shite, and haven't played in the same division since the sinking of the Titanic.
But an ex-player of City used to drink in a local pub.. Nice guy. We'd occasionally have a chat.. But sometimes, if Rovers fans were in the pub at the same time, they'd give him stick.. NOT banter. Need to make that distinction...
But one day the landlord heard this.. And turned the music off. So everyone in the pub would turn around. And he gave the Rovers fans a bollocking for the ages.. They went a shade of, somewhere between a well done lobster and a beetroot salad..
It's boring.. You're boring.. Shut up.
IN THE STADIUM! No problems. Shout, swear, hand signals... Lovely.. But in the real world.. It's pathetic.
"If it's not in the budget to have me dropped off, I won't go" Did he really say that? Clearly a pundit who is out of touch with who these broadcasts target. No wonder he needs thick skin.
He's out as a coward 🤣
lol no wonder Simon rolled his eyes
That's what I thought 😂 Poor Martin will be down the local food bank next bagging a few tins of ravioli to tide him over for the week.
I mean, it’s his job. If they can’t guarantee his safety, why would he go?
@@frasierfreak92 Why is it the responsibility of his employer to get him to and from work?!
Do McDonalds pay for a taxi to get you to and from work???
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Simons reaction to martins comment at 3:55 -4:01 was my reaction aswell 🙄😂
I literally walked past Martin Keown today at Paddington underground. Wasn’t a match day of course but funny to me the day I saw him is the day he discusses hating the train!
Did jim just say why am i getting it 😂😂😂, your personality jim thats why 😂😂
“Did it bother me? No” Really? Then why are you talking about it Jim?
Does Martin not drive?? Surprising if he doesnt but that would be my preferred way of travelling.
Not in London it isnt
The "fans" would attack the car!
@@environm3ntalist549 iv never been to London i wouldnt know 😂
congestion charge, you paying that are you? a fiver. what is he, made of money???
You'd think pundits would be even more mindful of this when they criticise referees. Maybe we should all just relax and understand people aren't doing things to personally attack us
“we”, “us”?
@@GA001 we is us
@@sie4431 Who are you speaking on behalf?
@GA001 i think we and us are sies pronouns and he's speaking for the rainbow community 😂
Its really nice to see Martin and Simon have a wholesome moment finally 🤣
The majority of “pundits” choose to purposely wind fans up for clicks and that model will attack morons
It's unfortunate people in the public eye footballers, pundits, film actors, politicians etc can not have a normal life . Myself my wife and friends can walk down the street, go for a meal, go on holiday etc and be left in peace .
I was in a restaurant and the ex manager of Oldham Athletic Jimmy Frizzel was having a relaxing meal with his wife and then Mr mouth almighty clocked him went to his table and stood at shoulder and engaged him in conversation for twenty minutes, Jimmy was a gentleman and was very polite and humoured him till he went away but his meal had gone cold and was ruined.
Fame has it's drawbacks and recently footballers have to employ minders and security on their homes . Catch 22 position.
Blame the people that sit on the computer all day because their lives are so dis interesting they have to live through outhers
it's really weird how most people act when they recognise a footballer or somebody off tv. Joe Hart used to go to a casino in Manchester and I'd see people angling their phone to record videos of him on the sly, which he was clearly aware of. Then if he'd give a disapproving look, or dare to ask them not to record him, then he'd spoken to like he's the one being out of order
every time jim laughs, i cant help but laugh as well.its infectious. is there a compilation clip of jim laughing? there should be
The problem with this point of view is that carragher spit in a fans face after a loss ... he wasnt suspended or fired, so we cant just look at it from one direction. Anyone [pundit or supporter] should be punished to fullest extent of the law if they croos the line from verbal to physical.
he was suspended for 6 months, i agree he should've been fired but your post is wrong
Love it boys great stuff😊
Elite roped-off 'looking down your nose at the plebs' mentality and the man who lives an everyday grind don't mix, when the game was still working class and players had day jobs I remember bumping into players and chatting with them on the walk to the stadium
Agree with all of this except that one line ‘I think Martin is an excellent pundit’ 😂
That was a great listen. I wouldn’t boo though. However, I wouldn’t get all upset if other people decided too. That’s their prerogative
No point in fighting or attacking an ex player' have some banter and say thankyou
I'd hazard a guess that people like Keown and Keane who during their careers had 100% thug moments(Haaland and Van Nistlerooy) are wrongfully being targeted for their past actions.
Keane is also the face of United, Ferguson aside, when they were at their most hated and successful. He's equally hated as much as liked. He's going to take more flack.
@paulmallon9292 yeah it's part and parcel of what and who they used to be. It shouldn't of happened to them but then again should Keane of done that to Alf or Keown on Ruud.
Vast majority will be able to differentiate playing career from pundit but unfortunately your past follows you.
It's quite pathetic that it happens but it doesn't shock
@@WanabeeComedy Two wrongs don't make a right mate. You can't shove your head onto someone because of a challenge that was 20 odd years ago almost. But I think we broadly agree. The point is people like Keane and Keown are so connected to their clubs they are going to experience this more than others.
@paulmallon9292 no they don't and those that do should be punished 100%
Well judging by the Talksport taglines 'HEATED'. 'SLAMED" 'CLASH' 'REACTS' 'EPIC' 'HITS OUT' 'CALLS OUT' 'DEMANDS' etc - a pundit must have the constitution of a war veteran that has seen 'things'?
All in capital letters as well! I mean there is even a fire symbol after the word 'debate' in the one above!
Martin Keown is a legend in the game and a great Pundit...and a nice guy to
Lol
Lol indeed
Nice guy lol did you ever see him play
🤡
He must have been on his period the day he and his team mates attacked Ruud Van Nistelrooy yeah?
You let someone pour a beer on your head and you just took it???????????? Wow,
Jus saying - Keown needs to plan a trip to Turkey
i think both pundits and football players need to grow thicker skin tbh, pundits who give out there opinion should expect some backlash within reason and not over board. and the players need to take advice better because a lot play absolute rubbish and cant take it when they told that by the pundits. also the problem is now you have pundits who haven't played at a high level on these shows given there opinion which is a issue, used to be legends of them game but not now
In fairness, the Seven Sisters Road is not the most crime free part of the world at the best of times. That being said, the fact that Martin can't get a private blacked out car to the front door either paid for by himself or by his employer is a bit wierd/surprising.
He’s tight so he wants the broadcaster to pay for it lol
Jim White: 'Martin [Keown] is a good pundit' - tells you all you need to know about the level of Jim White's intelligence. [or more accurately - lack of].
Without a doubt has higher intelligence than you
The difference is now that pundits are ex-players; years ago they were just broadcasters…
Did Keown not strike a man on the Old Trafford pitch?
Man pours full pint of beer over Jim’s head … did it bother him?
Yes
United player who despised back in the day.
Think he comes across well now, better than the majority of pundits.
“Punditry” was only created to keep ex players in a paycheque. They’re the most pointless people on TV. They’re also the reason our subscriptions are so expensive.
Keown should be on more..i noticed he is not on as often.
You re not welcome at Spurs Martin. No violence or abuse..but you re not welcome. Simple as. You can drive and park in the underground and do your job as a pundit if you wish. You ve got your own club.
There's always an idiot, the madness of crowds and the anonymity of online, people will always do and say daft things. What happened to Keane (Martin too) was bang out of order, but I do wish someone would have called him a baby as a joke. Pundits and footballers can share blame too, it's not like we haven't seen or heard imprudent things from them.
We have never seen Pundits enjoy there work ? in England so much , they run around a pitch for an hour a week got paid loads of money and everything was free , then they sit on tv and have chat for an hour and make loads of money and everything is free for them anyone would think why can't we afford to pay for food.
The guy that did it was David Dein's friend, he is always in his box.
or just threaten to sue people like big Simon
I love Simon... He's always bang on.
No. Not a requirement for pundits, but definitely if you want to be Simon Jordan.
You need thick skin to be a player the way you pundits react to them!
Multi millionaire can’t get a train my heart bleeds
I doubt if most pundits are millionaires now
@@potentialswillrule you forgetting the 15 20 odd years he was a professional footballer
@@krisearle3239You have no ideas what his personal circumstances are. And maybe he has his own personal limit's with his finance's
What’s Keown on about, at the Ethidad haha, city was probably in D1 without money when he was playing 😂
Fans need to have some perspective. Friendly rivalry is fine but not provocation let alone abuse, death threats or actual violence. Thinks are a lot better now than in the 70s but there is still too much stupidity among fans.
Why did you have to ask Aunty Martin??
😢
Wait what Roy Keane was headbutted?
Did they get the guy?
Micah Richard’s did
Sutton when he was at Celtic used to turn up at Angels bar in Uddingston causing a scene on occasion. Harry should have barred him. Sutton is a first class a$$hole. No, I'm not a Gers fan, he should have known better, but loved being Billy big balls. Jim White, you know those days.
He turned up literally once
@@environm3ntalist549 no he didn't. He was there 3 different times we were.
5:20 😂😂😂
why do people feel sorry for Roy? he probably loved it
You can buy a roll in Pret for a £5
Keown and Keane legends of the game
i am astonished he gets public transport for sure - would he not drive a car??
😂 in London?
You must do Roy keane broke that mans nose with his shoulder
Martin United will take the three points frm Arsenal in there next meeting?
You should of lamped him jim boy
Certain pundits like Chris Sutton invite controversy, so it's not surprising in a tribal sport being are going to find them more antagonizing. Most normal 'vanilla' pundits aren't even remotely considered in terms of violence.
He's entitled to his opinion
@@Jalipino_Jay Never said he wasn't. Just that controversy in tribal circles will eventually end in violence. Never said it was okay...
Thing is, there are so many 'pundits' around in these days of social media, that to be heard above the rabble, you have to be 'controversial' and 'edgy'.
There's no stopping Gary Neville Now he's like a Locomotive
"if yer like-omotive"
Farts @@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
Isn’t White and Jordan The Best Thing on any media platform!??? I love it, 3 hours of pure indulgence ❤❤
Is there any story where Jim white doesn't mention an incident with him or someone he knows. Mr love me do
he's a public figure who covers football as a job.
@@Trecesolotienesdos and whats your point
Some one told me there's a War on you have to be Poor Because of it ? Can U believe it ?
There's a war on in Europe Pay footballer's £400,000 a week and pay Pundits £20,000 to £50,000 a week
I doubt they earn that much apart from Gary Linekar
Your a very Simple Person @@potentialswillrule
Martin Keown an excellent pundit? "England scored to early in the Euro Final" Genius absolute Genius.
That makes perfect sense in terms of momentum, something he, a former player, would know all about
How is it not in the budget to give Keown a taxi lol. Im sure he earned enough to have a guard. This is all embarrassing this conversation. Rich people worrying about safety when they cAn afford security.
Jim can be really unpleasant sometimes.
Suttons a troll deserves everything he gets and more
Vastly overpaid to voice your opinion/ facts/what you're told to say...
Surely that's why they lose sleep at night!?
Why do people take football so personally? If i disagree with you, ill share my point of view in the comments below :) dont like it? Respond back in open debate
In keowns case you obviously just need to be thick
“Martins a good pundit” 😂😂 he is one of the worst about
Get a grip how often does it happen ?
Referees and Players need thicker skin than a pundit
Martin Keown, "No where safe to go"
Martin Keown, " Two ladies took me to safety"
Can't take this guy seriously anymore.
Proper prat. Always waffling.
I seen Patrick Vieira at airport and the first thing I thought was to get picture and autograph. That's normal and you get idiotic people every where.
God Jim makes me feel sick at times
Banter is one thing and most can give and take it but then there's the minority that have to take it further and the worse thing is they feel they have the right to do all because of the team they support.
Sutton is a troll and brings it on himself
We think it's all that free easy football money it must go to there heads they just can't stop talking about football
I've never seen Pundit's on sky sports so Happy they have a little chat have a laugh and get paid loads of money and they get to look Pretty on TV and they get to live there free little lives and go on all there free Holidays all around the world with there Pretty little Girlfriends
Have a chat on TV for loads of Money or go to work in England for £80 a day doing 10 or 12 hours a day ? and thats before Tax
If you don't like the pay of your job, retrain and get a better paid one then. Also if you think that they make too much money don't support the industry then by listening and commenting on their channels
Your Simple @@potentialswillrule
I have nothing but respect for Martin Keown as a player and pundit. These idiots need to grow up, they are not true football fans. I'm a Wolves fan and have love for all teams, even West Brom lol
Jim is hilarious!!!
It’s disgusting that some absolute thugs think it’s acceptable to accost people. Banter is one thing, abuse is another.
Take gary neville who tells all the managers how they are doing this and that wrong and has tried being a manager and couldnt win a game 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you do need thick skin Keown is definitely half way there
How did we get from Roy Keane be butted to keown crying ? Nob
Martin is lying 🤥 3:56
Stupid question, you need thick skin in every line of work
It's sad to hear this. This is the kind of mindless thuggish, prejudiced and basically cowardly behaviour which could be expected in say the Hitler regime of the 1930's. Sometimes you reap what you sow, and I am sure these thugs will get their come-uppance one day.
Take "skin" out of the title and you got keown
It's defeatist to say it's because of their playing days when it's really not, if you don't admit to a problem or the cause you can never resolve it
Some pundits are well worth listening to, when they have reached a certain standard in playing, some did not reach any standard at all.
Is Jim really this naive or is he just playing dumb for radio?
Right?? And he wonders why somebody would want to punch him in the face.
These ex footballers should carry donation Jars every where they go