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Is Bigger Better?? An E-flite Carbon-Z 2.0m T-28 Trojan Review
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- In this video, we review the E-flite T-28 Trojan 2.0m, a BIG rendition of the airplane that delivers big-time fun! We cover everything you want to know about this latest version of the model including what's been updated and some tips that help simplify the assembly and the mass of connections you have to make when assembling. If you're looking for a large-scale RC plane that flies awesome, the E-flite T-28 Trojan 2.0m is definitely worth considering. Take a ride with me on the Magic School bus! ;)
A big thank you to Brock Slagle of Bluesky Filmworks for his work on the camera!
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00:00 Introduction
00:12 About the Carbon-Z T-28 Trojan
00:53 Assembly Tips
01:12 TBolt Connectors FTW!
01:37 Flying the 2.0m T-28 Trojan
02:19 Retract Upgrades?
03:19 Takeoff Time!
03:43 Speed & Climb Performance
04:38 Aerobatics
05:25 Slow Flight Performance
05:54 Landing Performance
06:47 Control Setup
07:30 Battery Placement
08:16 CG Location
Thanks for another great review Chris. With mine on full flaps and low throttle I could fly by like a blimp. She does really good aerobatics as you mentioned. The bright yellow and big size may be helpful for those who have eyesight restrictions or orientation issues with small planes.
Very true!
Grazie mille
Awesome video Chris, I love the style you got going on for the plane reviews. I have the older T28 CZ and I wish I knew that tip about the connectors sooner. I'm doing it by matching the tags on the connectors one by one. Keep up the good work on your channel.
Thank you!
The big E-flite birds are very nice. Still enjoying your old 150 in Iron eagle trim. Nice flying T-28. I flew one of the V-1 28's when they first came out. You can't go wrong with a T-28.
Nice review Chris. Yes, bigger does fly better
I like the connectors. The plane is great too ;-). Good stuff Chris, AH..
Great video as usual. One of the things I enjoy most is how you fly scale. Slower control movements, realistic takeoff and landing. Great flying all around
Thank you!
Man, that took off in about 10 ft! Love it.
Great video and great plane. Well explained and well presented. I have the older red and white t28 and I'm still flying it 8 years later. I bought it in 2015 and its never gave me any trouble so far. Hope you enjoy your T28.
Many thanks!
Thanks for another great video. And thanks for the links. I am buying this plane and definitely getting the softer tires and the wiring harness.
Cool video Chris! I’m a fan of the CZ T-28. Not really digging the yellow paint scheme though. Would be nice to see some spring loaded retracts at that price point. Then again, it’s always fun to do upgrades to personalize it. Thanks again for another cool informative video! Should be able to make it out to the field on Memorial Day. Hope to see you there!
Yeah another great review Chris
Nice touch with your wiring connectors, wiring can get real messy with some of these planes with all the options.
Painted mine yellow 6 years ago love the yellow ! This plane for me is one of the best flying planes ever , I have 2 new in box incase of losing one so that I will always have a C Z T-28 !
Agree, this is an absolutely fantastic flyer!
Awesomeness. I have the tini trogan. You’re making me want one.
nice flight ! hope you've gotten settled in and enjoying the area...👍
Thanks! Mostly settled now I think and loving where we are. 😊
I have just received the thunderbolt connectors and they make things a lot simpler. I wouldn't have known about them only i saw this video. Many thanks.
So glad it was helpful!
That underbelly shot of the retracts was fire 🔥!
Nice Big Bird at least that's what I'm painting for the pilot name. I agree they should have added a front nose door for the price. Still a great flight and video.
Great review, I will have to save for this one.
Thank you!
Very nice video never heard of the thunder connectors,also a scale prop would be nice 😅
Adding a 3blade prop would be pretty easy. I’ll probably look at swapping it out at some point.
Oh man, I'm so excited for the Legend Hobby one.
You and me both! I’m really hoping I can do a review of one. It looks so dang good!
@@Thercgeek I went RED(orange?)/white. RCGF 40cc with scale exhaust. Sierra scale exhaust as well.
I'm so excited. Pre ordered the Corsair too. No I may never build my Top Flite Giant kit, lol. I should just sell it.
Whoa, awesome!!
I kind of hoped that with this plane coming and going out of stock for years that there would have been some improvements on it. Better gear and single plug connections as you did on yours. I remember seeing this bird years ago, even though is a great airplane, it's due for an upgrade.
I hear you.
While I was disapointed to find the gear struts were just wire, and as you mentioned the wiring is prehistoric compared to other aircraft I have, after I saw three at our field fly beautifully for three different pilots and along with all the videos extolling the fabulous flight characteristics I had to have one. All that aside, it is the design of this model, the moments the simplicity and the grace of it that sold me. I have already upgraded the struts and the wiring and will likely upgrade the ESC as well as it is borderline adequate. All this will be done by the time this aircraft arrives at the field in the spring.
Love it, A bit big for me lol awesome ❤
That is beautiful! And excellent video. I have a large Carbon Z Cub that I want to fit with cameras. May I ask which cameras you have mounted on the plane in this video? Thank you!
Thank you! I’m just using runcam’s for the onboard captures. amzn.to/4aLTmpg
Hey Chris, thanks for the reply! Just a couple of more of you don’t mind: what is the largest motor that you can put on the Trojan?
Lastly, my grandson’s Apprentice to a nose dive yesterday and broke the motor mount. I got removed the bad one having to cut the plastic to get it off because the wires go through a hole in the mount. The problem is the wires are hard wired into the ECS and I don’t want to mess with it. So I want to cut the wires, feed them through the mount and install some quick connectors to reconnect the motor. Is that good solution! Thank you, Anthony Also, that Trojan will be his second plane, he’s nine!
I still got the original , with original in unreliable landing gear and all 😢. But with that being said it’s still an amazing volume (for those who love bigger). To piggyback off you they definitely needed to make quick connect as part of the bird and to make it one step better I wish they had a quick wing connect with no screws like the new Cougar from motion RC … we can only dream … oh can you share where you bought your connect for the wings … thx
Yes, there is a link in the description. 😊
That's a way cool aeroplane. The slow passes are magic.
Hello Chris, what are your thoughts on a 3 blade prop. Saw a video of one and it looks and sounds really cool.
I put a 14x9 3blade prop on mine and it works pretty well. I’d like to try a little bigger one on it though to test the power system a bit more though.
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I’ve chased around a few T-28’s, and a few of those larger Carbon Z cubs… would be so cool to chase a giant T-28!!! …, gonna have to share this video with the locals, and uh…, see what happens; maybe somebody around here gets one 🤪😁
Great review Chris! I have one on the way. I am thinking of painting an alternative scheme, to avoid the "school bus" effect. A couple of questions: How much does she weigh, what's the prop size and the wheel size and are those 3 or 4 wire multi connectors that you are using? Thanks!
Thanks! I couldn’t tell you the weight offhand and I won’t be able to weigh it for a couple days unfortunately. Prop is a 14.75x10 and yes, I used a 3 and a 4 wire connector (link in the description).
Hi Chris, I’m going to order some of these multi wire connectors for mine but you say you used a 3 and a 4 connector yet I have 4 connection coming from each wing. Am I missing something maybe?
Cheers
Dave👍🏻🇬🇧
Hi, for flap deflections, you write elevator compensation of 10 and 18%. However, I use a different RC kit. Can you tell me how much the deflection is in millimeters? Thank you very much for your answer.
Hi Chris, great video! Looking into getting one, just a few questions.
1. Is there a motor upgrade
2. What’s all the noise when taxing? Sounds like the wheels are coming off
Thanks, Anthony
Yeah, there are lots of options for different motors for this. The eflite power 60 or something similar would be a good place to start looking. What you’re hearing on the taxi is just the really hard stock tires. They make a lot of noise. 😆
great review, do you know a good struts /gear mod replacement for this plane ? something that fits the stock retracts ?
Are you wanting struts and retracts? Or just struts?
better struts that fit the original retracts or do you know of a better upgrade for everything ?
@@Thercgeek
Hey Chris, forgot to ask what paint do you use on EPO foam? Thanks, Anthony
You can use pretty much any type of paint on epo as it’s extremely resilient to solvents. I have a huge list of my favorite finishing tools and paints on my website here: www.thercgeek.com/finishingresources
Hello Chris, what would you recommend as the largest motor you can put in the big yellow Trojan? Thank you, Anthony
Well, It’s all dependent on how many cells and what prop you want to run. What prop you wanting to run?
A video I saw used a 15x8 three blade. Thank you for your help. Where do you call home and if you don’t mind me asking. Anthony
Nice! We live in the Nashville area.
Nice model. Does it COME WITH the CAMERAS ?
It does not come with any cameras. The onboard cameras I used are runcam2’s I got from Amazon here: amzn.to/3OIhIb9
Do you use th 6" por the 12" Version of the TB-Connectors in your plane ?
I used the short ones because there was already a lot of excess wire at the wing.
Hi Chris, would you suggest this for a second plane after a trainer. Thanks
This would be a really good choice, but probably worth enlisting some help with the initial setup and flights.
The Trojan is amazing. Super great for the price too.
It flies so nice!
G’day Chris. Which thunderbolt connectors did you use ? The 3 or the 4s. ? Cheers mate 👍🦘
I used a 3 and a 4 plug.
@@Thercgeek Thanks 👍
Hi Chris I have been looking for this bird for a little while now.
Finally located one and it is on its way. After watching your review I ordered the connector sets. They should be in next week too.
I do haveone question.
The sales ads recommend 5 to 8 channels for the tx.
How many did you end up using and what for.
Thanks
Bob
I’m going from memory, but I’m quite certain that I’m only using 6 channels. It’s been a while since I’ve flown the model, but I can’t think of an additional function at this point.
Thanks Chris.
If you get the PNP version with 637T you need (7) to control ASX On/OFF and safe with a 3 position switch
ThanksTS . I actually got the BNF version. It was the only one in stock in Ontario Canada.
So 7 channels it is then.
Cheers for all the input.
Bob
Dear the rc greek, I have a question. I have never flown before, but I have always loved RC planes, so I started looking for a plane that suited me and in the end I was helped well by an employee and I gained my experience on a Carbon Cub S2, I fly this plane both with safe and without safe optimally, so I want another plane and fly with it for about 4 months, everything is going well. So I'm no longer a beginner in my opinion :) I have 2 aircraft in mind, 1 of which is the Draco 2.0m and the other is carbon Z Trojan T-28, which of the 2 would you choose after the carbon Cub S2? please help!! :)))
If you are looking at a choice between the two, then my recommendation would be the t28 all day long. It’s a much nicer flyer than the Draco imo and more aerobatic too.
@@Thercgeek how long is the max flight time with the t28? Thank you :))
Which TBOLT connectors did you use?
I have a 3 and a 4 connection in there.
@@ThercgeekNot.. what he asked.
Noice! I just wish the damn things were in stock lolol
Yeah, I think they should be back in stock soon?
@@Thercgeek june supposedly. Was may. Lol
@@hechtspeed I got one. 😊 love it
Is the length more than 3 ft? From pov it looks pretty big.
Yes, it’s quite a bit longer than 3’. Closer to 6’ 😉
Chris, which Tbolt connectors do I order? 2 or 4 connector size?
I used a 3 and a 4 on this.
@@Thercgeek Thanks.
What motor is it running?
This newer version runs a Spektrum Avian motor. Not sure kv offhand.
They could have made this plane so much better using alloy shock landing gear like the Jets do and use a good decent paint that doesn't smear off like the Cessna 150 red one did
Der Flieger ist super. Aber der Kabelsalat aus den Flügeln ist immer wieder nervig. Muß das sein?
Hi, "balsa flyer" here. I have a question, what are the benefits of a foam plane compared to balsa and ply? I have never flown a foamy and for some reason I don't want to, maybe it's just ignorance hence the question.
Ultimately I think it boils down to manufacturability. At the smaller scales, foam is less expensive to produce in mass compared to balsa. They are extremely good flyers usually with much better durability compared to balsa. That said, a well designed rigid balsa airframe does tend to track a bit better in flight.
shorten your servo leads.... that is quite a bit of extra weight that you're hauling around that can be removed easily and improve performance.
I hear you, but honestly we’re talking maybe 1-2oz at most in an airplane that weighs many lbs and the airplane doesn’t know the difference. In this case, the simplicity of just having 2 connectors to plug in vs the otherwise 8 is more desirable for me. It’s a large model that’s kind of awkward to handle and these really help simplify assembling the airplane at the field for me.
On a 2m plane? Come on. Even on a 800mm plane that extra wire is negligible
@@M4rkmcc21 every little bit helps the performance of the plane.... the more weight you save the better it'll fly....
Have an rc friend. Did not know he was a full size airplane pilot
During the conversation
He mentionef the best flying airplane he ever flew. Was a 747
So i geuss that bigger is indeed better
Bigger is always better
For the price point it needs better retracts and wiring.
Can you hand launch it?
No clue and I’m not willing to try. 😆
@@Thercgeek I was joking but I think it could probably be done. Maybe not without sacrificing a rotator cuff though!
Haha, I wasn’t sure if it was a joke or not. Hard to tell sometimes. 😆. Just get Nolan Ryan to toss it for you, should be the perfect heater needed. 🤣
Personally I think Eflite missed the mark on this one due to it's size and difficulty in transportation, which has made me pass on this model. If they would have invested some time and money in engineering a quick disconnect wing, or even a three piece wing like the Focke Wulf, then I'd already have this model in my fleet and hangar.
I agree 💯 percent. But keep dreaming probably the worst part of this is the wing connection wires 4 per side I'm getting the same style connectors Chris used to make that a simple task
@RECKEM ROYS RC Those connectors will definitely come in handy and make things a lot easier, but unfortunately the screws holding the wings on, and their receptacles in the fuselage will eventually wear out and fail over time, which has happened to me with two different warbirds so far. I really think the way forward to make transportation and assembly easier in these big models, is the three piece wing with quick attachment and detachment points, such as with the Eflite Focke Wulf and the Draco in their lineup.
I hear you on the 3 piece wing. That would be ideal for this airplane and simplify the transport and field assembly as well. Still an awesome model though imo.
@SteelRainFPV well you definitely have a solid point. I have the 1.5 p 51 with the 3 piece wing and it's definitely the way to go super simple.
It kills me that for the price they don't include a 3 blade prop. Simple swap yeah but why have to do it?😕
I understand.
Ciao miscelazione flap elevatore percentuali grazie mille
It needs a three bladed prop!
bet the noise landing gear is bad on grass
I think it would probably do just fine. It has nice big tires, so that helps a lot.
Bigger is better anyway, because you can see the flight model better at a distance, which means you have a larger flight radius.
At distance big or small they all turn into a black silhouette.
@@flycatchful bigger plan = bigger silhouette 😉
For the price of this kit they should have been aluminum shock landing gear. No reason they shouldn't have done that. The weight wouldn't be that much difference
I hear you, that would have been nice. All those things add up in price though, you know?
I agree it's over priced, for a foamie , foam is very cheap to produce.
more than 700.00 with tax and ship.
Honestly, the value depends on what someone is looking for and what’s important to them, you know?
$700 is a bit steep for a foamy.
I hear you. That’s all relative really as the value depends on what someone is looking for and what’s important to them, you know?
Totally worth it. It would be better 50 EUR more, better gear, better servo horns (these are a joke), quick cable connector, better prop and more AMP ESC.
The profit margin is huge
There is one problem with this flying model, it can’t mow the yard very will.
I fly 5000 and get 10 mins hence the smart technology, timer is slowly fading out for me
Nice!
Not for the price.
I take it that you cant get this kit no more.
Actually, They are available and in stock 😊 (link is in the description)
E-Flight = Overpriced
I think that depends on who you ask. 😆
Die Werbung nervt total!