Tips to Riding Your Kite Like a Pro Till You Can Ride Both Ways
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- Are you looking to ride your kite like a pro? In this video, we're going to show you some tips on how to ride your kite like a pro until you can ride both ways.
Learn how to control your kite with these short lines kitesurf tips. After watching this video, you'll be able to ride your kite like a pro!
I recommend that you use short lines between 5 to 15 m when you are learning to kitesurf. It will have a significant impact on your learning curve by allowing you to feel the low power of the kite while you are learning to master it. From the start of your learning curve, you will be changing kites and increasing sizes. But a lot of schools don't have or use short lines as the brands often don't produce them. So it's left to the school to change them to help you progress faster. Besides riding upwind, all is done with low power from the kite. So it makes no sense that when you are learning, you are using long lines that can generate a lot of power. Even on your first water starts, you do not want to have a lot of power as if you accidentally manage to go one way. The chances are that you will not be able to do the same coming back on your first attempt. So it's recommended you first try both ways with short lines that will allow you to understand the movement but not go far. And after you just change to long and you go ride with higher chances of coming back.
As an instructor, the benefits are even more significant as the kite is hard to crash with force, and also, the student occupies a small area making it harder to crash against others.
Let me know what you think.
Did you learn using short lines?
Do you teach using short lines? Up to what point?
0:00 Why we should use short lines
0:20 How we should start
1:13 Bodydrag for the first time
1:50 1st water starts
2:19 Impact on teaching
2:50 How to check if the school is using good practice
3:05 When to go for full lines
3:20 What are Short lines?
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Did you learn using short lines?
Do you teach using short lines? Up to what point?
Good video, where can you buy shorter lines from if you didn't want to loop your lines up? Could you buy 2 x 5m line extensions and chain them together to give you 10m lines or do you get custom lines made up?
I think you can buy them in most stores. then yes chain them together to get the full line length.
Tiago, what can i say, this video was a haven sent, it's an understatement to say how helpful that technique is, also many thanks for the videos explaining how to shorten and splice your lines extremely helpful video as well.
Honestly for almost 3 years now I've been trying to boardstart after taking lessons ( my instructor uses short lines but only upto bodydraggin as soon as you're on boardstart you are on full length lines ).
I was reluctant to use this method for boardstart as i thought exactly as you said, ( i need the power ) turned out is what you need is to master the technique need to boardstart most importantly linking those power strokes for a focused and linear delivery of power instead of the huge surge of power and delay you get with full length lines. Also the relaunch of the kite is pretty much instantaneous and almost effortlessly rather than having to wait for the kite on full length lines to pull you hard clawing it's way to the edge of the wind window, this doesn't happen on short lines,
I bought a bar and cut the lines down to 15m, went out yesterday about 23knots using 9m kite and a lightwind board, at first i used a full length lines as i always did, nothing but frustration and struggle and got tired very quickly fighting everything,
Then went out landed the kite, took a little break and finally decided to try short lines bar that i made earlier (15m),
Man that was a revelation, kite was so much more responsive and predictable and for the first time ever i managed to get up and ride towards the end of the session all being it a short distance but it was under control i didn't crash just slowed down and stopped,
The kite i used was flysurfer stoke 9m 2016 and the bar was f-one Linx 2021 adjustable between 38 to 45cm and am happy to report it worked flawlessly and super stable.
Once again Tiago i couldn't thank you enough and to everyone out there whose struggle like me please listen to this guy and give it a try, it'll change everything,
Please note if your not sure how to shorten your lines please send the bar to qualified shop to do it for you also the first thing to do is test quick release and make sure the kite flagout as it should BEFORE committing into deep water or a situation where you need to use the flagout, I.e self landing or emergency so please test before, good luck to all of you out there, have fun and be safe.
Super stoked to know it helped you master the technique. Once you can go, you can gradually move to longer lines. 👍
@@KookProofActivityCenter couldn't agree more, it's simply amazing how much confidence and control you get with 15m lines and if i feel under powered on the same size kite as everyone else just go one size up,
Yes.
Safer for the rider and the kite. Much less travel downwind during mistakes which means much less walking back upwind.
Makes the beginner much better at flying, body dragging, and easier to practice self rescue.
This is a great video. I just started the waterstart and after some crash I decided to short my 24 lines. Now I need to try it to see the difference.
If someone here has video of people running with short lines please share. Thanks 🙏
Check the waterstart video. It’s filmed with short lines
I agree with short lines you also take a lot less space. So much better for everyone
Very good video. I agree with you. I had my kite classes last year and they didn’t used short lines. I think it’s very important for beginners to know well the kite behavior and to practice it’s control.
Obrigado pelo comentário. Tens Aqui o mesmo vídeo em português czcams.com/video/2o7OkW1uJL4/video.html podes também seguir o nosso canal em português.
Massa! Venho conversando com um colega "IKO" e tenho visto, também com esse vídeo, as vantagens de usar linhas curtas. Vou atualizar minha forma de aulas com uso delas. Valeu pelo vídeo
Um prazer. Abraço.
Great tip about short lines.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for your clear explanations. I have just gone up onto my board with 8m lines and now I have 15m lines and I go in both directions with not big power, and I am not afraid of velocity or big gusts. I recognise going upwind is not very easy for me at the moment 😂🤣
To go upwind on the board you need more line length as you need constant power that is harder to achieve with short lines. Short lines are great for first attempts at waterstart but to go upwind you need regular line length
So short lines mean I have less tangled lines to untangle (10 metres x 4-5 lines). Excellent, short lines it is.
Good morning Tiego, thank you for all your vidéos, they're so useful.
I am a bigginer but started to ride and still working on both sides waterstart.
I have a REEDIN 12 m2 kite with 22 lines and 2 m of extensions.
1- Do you think that 2m of extensions, Makes a difference?
2- can I keep the 12 m2 kite and shorten the lines for strong wind instead of buying another smaller kite ?
Thank you
1, not a huge difference. 2 you can, but the riding is not the same. The turning radius will be different, and so will the overall experience and fun. So I recommend you get an 8m to go along with the one you have already.
how about bars? shouldn't it be short and small, so the kite with shorter lines doesn't move that quick. A bar with low V? which bars are simple 4 line bars to look into and cut the lines? thanks
Smaller bars are better but that you will not find or be able to cut. Normally my school bars are 45cm. Most brands use low v. Example north, slingshot, ozone, eleveight to name a few. I think nowadays most brands have passed to the low v. The exception is probably Duotone and F-one, but they might have changed it as I haven’t seen the latest models.
Hi Tiego
With your experience what minimum length of line and type/size of kite would you recommend to ride on a small lake with very unstable winds and very poor launching zone with many obstacles ! I am quite skilled of piloting kites and I may use foil kite of 10m2 or 15m2 that I use with good sea wind with 17m lines.
I may also use inflatable kites of various size if it is more appropriate. Is it possible to use them with 5m lines with variable and quite light winds (10/15kts, gust at 20)? Which board do I need to be able to ride upwind? Is it possible with a twintip?
Thank you! 😎
It isn't easy to give a definitive answer without observing the exact conditions. However, for gusty winds, it's advisable to use a normal line size. Nonetheless, this could pose a challenge if your launch zone is not ideal. Using very short lines in very gusty conditions can make riding extremely difficult. In the gusty condition, I would advise a big board. It can be a twin-tip, but make it bigger so you can continue riding in the lulls.
Hello, thanks for replying. My core bar has high V also. When you say 5 meter lines, is that from the bar or from the cleated trim part of the bar? I have a question about ozone bars, they have a red ball (stopper I believe for when you use your safety system). It's at 7 meters from the bar. What do you think if i cut the lines below that to make the lines 5 meters. What is the effect or if i relocate the ball to 4 meters away from the bar. I will mainly use this on a lake. Thanks so much, I do enjoy your videos and hope one day to come kite in Portugal. I am in California.
The 5m is from the cleat, but it doesn’t make a huge difference. Make sure they are short and balanced regarding the ozone bar. The stopper needs to be at least one kite span from the trim. If you are going to use 5m lines, you will probably use an 8m kite or smaller. In case of such short lines, remove the stopper. The stopper is in the bar to make sure the bar doesn’t go all the way to the kite because you have long lines, with short (below 15m) ones. Just take it out. Thanks a lot for the feedback, and I hope to meet you one day in our backyard.
Thank you, how long were these lines in the video with the blue kite, thanks
The blue kite has 15m lines in most shots. In my spot it’s hard to go a lot smaller due to the sand bar that cuts a lot of the surface wind. But in other locations 10 or 5 is what we use sometimes.
Can I use a 10m kite with 5m lines I am 160bs ?
You can but just for kite piloting or bodydrag. For riding it’s not impossible but very hard
@@KookProofActivityCenter I just want to feel comfortable with a bigger kite and gradually let more line out.
@@pickleforknwiggles634 go with 10 and then 15. 5 is a bit too short. I don’t know how much is 160lbs in kg
Do all freeride kites fly ok with 5 to 10m of line?
@@KookProofActivityCenter Around 75 kg.....Thank you !
Ok !!! Where can a person get short lines from exactly , because I've never seen anywhere where I could get shirt lines sir !...
My next video will cover this as a lot of people asked. You can fold the lines or cut them and make them short. Some brand manufacturers make short lines. Straight out of factory the only one I know is north. The navigator bar comes with sectioned lines so you can take one section and have them short. I’ll covert this on the next video. Haven’t had time to edit it yet due to other projects.
Short line have pros and cons. The consultation is that kite is going faster, so less time to react for a beginner
When i say short lines in mean 10-15m, and with that the kite is not faster or more reactive as it stays in the edge of the wind window.
so let me get this straight. you teach upwind body drags, and then right after go to waterstart???? you dont teach power stroke or directional body drags???????
I had to recheck the video to see if I said that at any moment. I never said that. There are five videos about body drags in the channel. I’m only focussing on the short-line advantage during the whole learning process. You only need longer lines to ride upwind easier.
@@KookProofActivityCenter from this video sounds like you move from upwind body drag directly to waterstarts.
It was not my intention, and neither did i do that. This video is not showing the path of exercises to arrive at a water start. It is just mentions the advantage of using short lines before you need to ride upwind as the best approach to a faster learning progress.
Errrrrrrrrr !! He Or She ! Should be able to go up or down wind !!!!! There are women that kitesurfer & are learning to do it ...
I Don’t understand your question.
The instruction is not gender specific. All can be done by a guy or a girl in the same way.
Correct !!!
No what I'm real sorry I pointed it out , but there's women in the world & they stand by us men & I would think no matter what so not in clueding them kinda gets in my nerves , women do sports as much as men do , now for you to say you don't understand then you need to watch your vids you put on CZcams .
Don't get me wrong I've learnt things on your content
In English, 'rider' is not masculine or feminine. If you say 'he', that shows you're referring to someone male. Just say 'they' instead. No need for 'he' or 'she'.
In Portuguese, each word has a masculine or feminine that is probably why I keep using 'he? instead of 'they'. in Portuguese, it is a masculine pronoun. I'll try to use 'they' but it's not easy as it's not my native language. Thanks for the feedback.