I'm addicted to weird 2010s paranormal romance YA (Falling Under)
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- No one has ever heard of this book. Bear with me.
There may be some camera focusing issues on this one, oops. Anyway, here's a slightly older video time wise (I believe shot in May) but finally out! I'm working on something so so so so wild as my next big video. Just being delayed because the housing market is on fire and I am afraid :')
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Love the "I decided at age of 13 for this to be core part of my personality and now I'm stuck like that" representation
Me and cartoons
lmao that was literally me and birds of prey.
Me with dragons lol
Me (27) when I've had the same special interest since I was 8.
I feel so seen
the fact that (presumably american) country boy hayden used the word 'trollop' is fucking hilarious to me bc ive only heard that word used by my very british grandma
No one uses trollop anymore and it drives me crazy it's the funniest word. I'm meant to swoon? for him?
If I ever heard an American country person say the word "trollop" in casual conversation I'd definitely assume they're a demon in disguise. Or a British spy.
I guess it reinforces how old he is lol. too bad she didn't include other oldtimey words, like strumpet
@@platedlizard or fopdoodle
"jezebel" or "harlot" would have been MUCH more yeehaw
I already know that the love interest is a demon bc no angel would ever use the words "trollop" and "virginal" in the same sentence
I think the one redeeming feature about this romance is the mild country-boy demon aspect. Imagine a book that leaned a bit more into "he's a half demon, and he likes to go mud-bogging on the weekends"
He doesn't listen to MCR, he listens to Johnny Cash
Most unrealistic thing about this book is having someone with an English accent be outcasted. Going to an American school, anyone who arrived with a European accept would automatically get pulled into friend groups because people liked their accent.
Can confirm! And when i lost the accent and wasn’t the English new girl anymore, THEN i became the weird loner girl who reads all the time
I'd love to see this conversation in paranormal YA book play like this for just once:
Dark, broody guy: Why haven't you ever...been kissed?
MC: Oh, I'm asexual.
Broody guy, with extra smouldering brooding: No...I think you were...waiting for someone.
MC, who heard this every damn time she came out: No
i’m just glad he didn’t say “pumping blood to MY MANHOOD with greater force” it’s a small miracle, eh
this book really sounds like a one that would use a word like “manhood”
Definitely. Demon boy uses "Trollop" in casual conversation
as a resident of bumfuck nowhere, I can confirm stumping is a thing and i swear ive heard it called that
NICE. I was so sure it was and then I furiously spent a while looking and not finding anything, somehow. but I was SO SURE it was a thing.
I’ve heard of the same thing but it’s called mudding
Can confirm, we call that muddin'.
Sounds kinda like boony whompin
Muddin’ is the only thing I’ve heard it called
The 'not like other girls' books annoyed me as a teen, I was bullied and was utterly aware of my schools social groups. I knew I wasn't one of the 'thin pretty girls', I really want a book where the MC is really not like other girls. She wears pretty dresses, but also gets into intense nerd conversations with grown men, she runs the local tabletop group at her school. Make her a nerd beyond a classic book reader.
A wild detail that stood out for me is that right after Haden brings up that protag girl isn't affected by his demon pheremones she immediately goes home and overdoses on sleeping pills to meet up with him again.
Very normal not influenced by any demon powers behavior here guys. Nothing to be worried about, right? (It could just be irrelevant details being omitted from the summary for time, but...)
LITERALLY i was thinking the same thing lmaooo
I'm someone who had a "not like other girls" phase, but it was because 1) I was being severely bullied by the 'other girls' & B) turns out I wasn't a girl lol. I don't think I ever went to a school with a codified 'cool kids' group but I also never paid attention to broader social stuff like that. I really wish there was better weird girl representation in media, I want Thea to have had a dedicated rant about frog physiology or an interest in city planning or something else bizarre, it would make it way more believable that she was ostracized and didn't think she was pretty. Anyway I like your cloak
Ngl it's my ongoing theorie that the "not like other X" phase is a result of bullying or at the verg least being excluded by the rest
Yeah no the majority of “not like other girls” girls usually end up being queer or neurodivergent or excluded for some other reason, as a recovering one myself who ended up being both queer and neurodivergent-
@@adrasthe314 I had depression when I had that phase. Once I started taking medication it went away. I was bullied a lot as a child so that theory is probably somewhat correct.
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CROW. CROW. CROW.
(mystery science theater 3000 intro voice:) CROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW is how I usually think of it.
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I have a bad YA romance suggestion that I just had a war flashback to so here you go.
Nightshade by Andrea Cremer. It’s about werewolf’s that go to a fancy mountain highschool ( I think I never finished it, I took it out of my local library 6 times and was completely unable to finish it it was too annoying to me lol) and there’s like religious undertones if I remember correctly. The main girl saves a human boy and there’s this whole mystery sub plot around him and a forbidden love triangle between her, him and her Werewolf Bf. There’s a line in it that haunts me to this day where human guy is like what’s your favorite book and he’s like “ I bet it’s pride and prejudice “ and she’s like “ no watership down cause it’s about survival” and as someone who has read watership down like 20 times… yes but that’s also simplifying it so much I wanna scream lol.
I don’t think I ever made it to that line but all I remember from that book is the werewolf girl explaining that she can become a wolf wearing human clothes if she focused on changing forms a specific way and idky that stuck with me but I remember THAT
@@platinumbubbles6152 I remember specifically she had a vintage Pixies band Tshirt and I remember thinking it was weird she had one cause it was set in modern day not that era lol
"then we enter the weird zone" is exactly what I love hearing when people explain things to me
I just really need the “bell” scene and the “stumping” scene preserved as world heritage literature and the rest can be entirely forgotten by everyone including the author.
The bell scene sounds like a "dramatic" dream/nightmare you have that when you wake up realize is just kinda weird and silly
re: "outcast girls" don't exist
i remember watching a video a while back about YA novels and why they're Like That, and the youtuber pointed out that the authors aren't writing about real people, they're appealing to young girls by writing the kind of person they *think* they are. i have no idea what teenagers in high schools are like now, but i remember when i was in high school i definitely knew a lot of girls (including myself) who thought they were "not like other girls" and outcasts who didn't fit in. it was only in retrospect that i realized i was actually a normal girl who was exactly the same as other bookworm girls.
I have a YA vampire romance to suggest. It's about gay teen boys who are also water vampires and they go to a boys school where so many people are gay and so many people are Irish but it's not in Ireland, and the school is secretly a vampire haven but it's not for only vampires and being a vampire is a secret.
The first book is called Unnatural
You say water vampires like this is a common term
@@Crowcaller hahahaha I cannot explain it any better than that, they can breathe underwater and they have webbed fingers when they do. I think there's also some sort of guide or water vampire deity in an underwater cave but I don't remember that much
What is the book name and who's the author?
Ahhh honestly I grew up being bullied also (and I was diagnosed autistic, but not until far later), and the whole "you're different and that's why they don't get you" narrative is basically what kept a shard of confidence inside me at the time. So I get why that's so popular in fiction aimed at young teens. Even people who didn't get bullied had to go through that phase where they struggled to fit in and it felt like everyone had it right, and you don't, right?
So the protagonist can't be unattractive, because it's a self-insert fantasy and you want to be pretty, but they can't be considered normal, because that's not what you relate to. It's not about being realistic but about resonating with people with an actual warped sense of reality at that time of their life.
Yes? No? Maybe I just got sold on the stereotypes.
For what it's worth, a lot of us who had the "I'm not like other girls" phase turned out to not, in fact, be girls lol. And while I do cringe at some of my internalized misogyny back then, I also was pretty badly bullied for being gender nonconforming (and neurodivergent), so I won't blame my child self for developing some resentment lol.
or we turned out gay.
Back again to say I find your content utterly fucking delightful. You're not like the other crows.
There is some Swiss cheese amount of holes in the plot of this story that you sum up wonderfully. Also, your description of the 'Bell Scene' has some amazing Eldritch horror flavor to it.
what horrors hath the crow brought for us today
the thumbnail will tell you my favourite one I think
I never realized just how angel heavy and demon light romance was at that time... I spent a lot of time in RP forums back then and even there there were a lot of of angels or half angels.. all bad boys, of course. A former friend of of mine from the world had a demon character and he's now an MC of a book series but thats one of the only ones i can think of!
It's so jarring to hear 'I'm not like other girls' literally as a quote in a book now, I forgot that it was a real thing that characters actually used to say and wasn't just a parody in and of itself. 🙈
I read it as vaginal nightgown and to say I am relieved is an understatement
i was similarly autistic about mary sues!!! was really into mary sue parodies and realistic character writing (as antithesis to mary sues). I don't think I would call it a special interest but now that the similarities between our interests are brought up it may actually have been LOL
HELL YEAH!!! I didn't know I was autistic until I was in my 20s and so it was pretty recently I realised my interest in Mary sues when I was like 9 was very much an early special interest. I wrote a number of like parody sue characters and loved reading commentary about Mary sues and was just oddly fixated on the concept despite not otherwise being into fandom at all. I wasn't reading fanfiction yet I was writing my own parody stuff and constantly on TVtropes. It only recently connected this was an unusual set of behaviour
My name is Fia (as seen in well…my name) and every time you said “Thea” I got jumpscared. A surprising amount of people think Thea is my name if I verbally introduce myself to them and I think I finally understand why.
If it helps I am not rich and I can not play a violin.
i was looking for this comment lmao, my dead name is Fia and i had the moment of dread that the only time my dead name ever is in media was a crappy paranormal YN book 💀
The bell scene was worth it. Beautiful.
I’m so glad I realized this was a review on your blog that I read in the past because I was starting to think these had begun to blend together so much that somehow this sounded familiar and I had memories of a completely new book I’d never heard of 😅
In contrast to YA, according to my own experience, demon love interests are far more common than angelic ones in BL. If it is a case of moms finding demons too sexual that would kinda make sense
Oh man, we're talking about demons this week? (And of course, his name is Hayden...yep, a main character demon with a name similar to Heaven lol).
*Flashes back to the reverse Persephone myth story I was committed to writing for a while there in high school about a girl who, instead of being taken to the Underworld, struck a deal with a demon boy who wanted her help in getting OUT of it (in other words, he sought to become human). Love triangle, dream meetings, and Phantom of the Opera references then ensue.* 😆
Ok but I would legitimately read this 😂 I’m not directly part of the Phandom but the monster love fandom circles I go in are very adjacent, and I am Interested.
This sounds like Twilight fanfiction, I hate to say it but it sounds like New Moon was the inspiration but I gotta admit getting kidnapped by skeletons threw me for a loop. Stoked to see you back!!
I want a whole book about the bell incident.
CROW TIME CROW TIME
Crow time = Crime = ?????? (scientists still working this one out)
Gwen Hayes is a bit of a middling genre romance author, Sucessful, but not exactly mind blowing. In fact, her book on how to write romance novels, Romancing the Beat, is more highly rated than any of her actual novels. It has good advice, but it doesn't seem like she's able to use her own advice to effectively.
Mudding or Muddin’ is the name for the truck driving thing. Somebody somewhere probably calls it stumping, but as a lifelong southerner who knows people who go muddin for fun, I’ve literally never heard it called anything else.
It’s not paranormal romance so I don’t know if it’s up your alley, but Bumped by Megan McCafferty is one of the most unhinged YA dystopia books I’ve ever read and I think it might be a good video topic for this channel. It’s like if those late 2000s MTV teen mom shows was The Hunger Games. I found it in a bookstore as a teenager and skimmed through it out of morbid curiosity, and it was one of the weirdest reading experiences of my entire life. I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be a campy, satirical social commentary, but it came across like someone ran a “we live in a society bottom text” Joker meme through a Barbie filter. Also, for some reason the main characters are twins named Harmony and Melody.
6:45 I think they're talking about mudding. I've literally never heard anyone call it "stumping" but what you describe there is mudding, and is definitely real.
I like the shorter/smaller review videos inbetween giant disc took videos! I think it’s a nice breather for both the audience and you. I fking lost it at the bells
Have you read/watched Good Omens? It’s a book written by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pritchett in 1990. It’s a bit of an old book, but it’s a really interesting Armageddon parody about an angel and a demon. Not a YA, though. It was also turned into a show in 2019, and season 2 had come out last week.
here to second the good omens rec, i’m rereading it right now and it’s literally so fun
Good Omens is really good. I would say it's certainly suitable for young adults, as well as adults, like much of Terry Prachett's work, even if it's not strictly YA
Your dramatic reading of the bell incident made me laugh out loud!😂😂😂
Gotta say, this video was a wild ride for me. My favorite D&D character I've ever made is named Thia (pronounced the same way) and my brain kept going "no, my baby!" every time book-Theia did something stupid.
One day I would really love to see you cover the “house of night” series, it’s completely unhinged and awful in so many ways. It’s vampire finishing school in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and it just gets worse from there.
Babe wake up! New crow video just dropped
I’m SO happy I found your channel! Weird poorly written paranormal teen romance is absolutely my shit
I genuinely burst out laughing when I heard the name "Haden Black".
Love that your hair grows more powerful w each video
Teen nightclubs were totally a thing in Utah! They're just dry clubs where it's considered creepy to attend by yourself if you're above the age where you should have returned from an LDS mission (which I can't remember cause it's been a while). It was still okay to attend with a date.
This channel is literally giving sitting in my friends’ living room while we discuss the BUCK WILD books at scholastic book fair in 8th grade, which i love
god the thumbnail quote is so vile
I use it too much in the video but it is so fantastically bad
The city officials shooting the faulty school bells is painfully American XD
The title just makes me think of evanescence.
It has to be a reference, right??
Stumping is absolutely a real term, when you cut a tree down you have to remove the stump and roots and it's a whole other thing and a real pain in the ass that usually requires a tractor. Not what I'd choose for a first date but you do you demon boy
EDIT: yeah I have no idea what truck boy is talking about
EDIT EDIT: ok two seconds later you also called him truck boy, glad we're on the same wavelength
Loved this video! I was silently laughing at work during that section on the bell incident.
I'd really like your thoughts on Good Omens! Edit: have you read Sharon Shinn's Archangel series? it's not YA but it is a fairly low-heat adult romance series. It's science fiction, the angels were genetically engineered to communicate with the spaceship Jovah their ancestors used to carry the colonists to their world, Samaria. However, the colonists deliberately hid this fact from their descendants so that they'd believe the angels were praying to a real god. (This isn't a spoiler btw, this is on the back cover of the first book in the series). The leader of the angels (and the world) is the Archangel and he or she is elected by Jovah to rule for a 25-year term. Jovah also selects their spouse who must be human, whose main duty is to sing the first solo during the yearly celebration to Jovah called the Gloria. If they don't, the spaceship will destroy a mountain, a city, and then the world. (again, this is all part of the first book's synopsis, so not a spoiler!). This series is one of my favorite angel fantasies (or science fiction). What I really love about it, besides the romances, is how it explores faith in the context of an artificial god. (especially a god that needs actual maintenance from time to time lol)
I went to a country high school and I'm going to go out on a limb and say this author did not!! No boy at my school would use the word trollop, and like....the word for that activity is "muddin'". That's it. Just muddin'. Stumping must be what they call it in hell I guess!!
Could totally see the entire police department pulling up to the high school with emergency service just because nothing else is going on to try and figure out what's happening and just deciding to shoot the bells out of annoyance.
Stumping: we call that going on a "Clem ride" which consists of riding in the bed of a 1950's truck named Clem on the trails that are normally used by four wheelers. We don't go dangerously fast, we sing songs and chant for Dad to honk the horn which sounds like ahWOOOga.
Commenting for the engagement. Excited to watch!! love the outfit!!!
yeah!!! thank you!!! I am also commenting for engagement... I think.... no one really understands how this works and what matters I think.........
LI: mild countryboy demon
> so like, every uppermidwestern us rural boy ever?
hayden acts every guy that i went to school with 🧍♂️
I haven't heard the term stumping before, but having grown up in rural Montana, I knew as soon as I heard you say it that it would be the kind of thing people in my hometown would get a real kick out of.
Another great video! Also 'stumping' is just called mudding in the south.
The bells bit reminded me of a quote from Sam & Max, “a goat born with an hdmi port…an unwelcome visitor…the dead walk the earth…and bells, bells, BELLS!!”
well if he is a fallen Angel, maybe you can still save him. If he is a demon he is already dammed, forever. As you did the dramatic reading of the Bell incident I had an epiphany, maybe all these bad books are supposed to be read in a .... dramatic.... fashion.
00:59 god what a relatable autism mood. I’m allergic to horses so when I was a kid and all my friends were volunteering at a horse barn and stuff I decided I liked cows and it became a core personality trait of mine for fifteen years. Cows are no longer my favorite animal but MAN I recommend having a unique favorite animal I got so many random trinkets that are still on a display shelf in my room.
I very much enjoyed this video regardless of the length. Obviously there's room for more detail and in-depth discussion in the hour+ long videos and I hope you keep making those. But if shorter videos means a possibility for more videos from you overall, I'm all for it.
The words " pastel goth Korean psysic" floored me
I'm DYING. This is the same Gwen Hayes who wrote "Romancing the Beat", story structure book used by some in the romance writing community.
I love these half-hour, weird little YA book reviews. I don't always have 3 hours to while away on You Tube and I know it's always going to be a ride.
The bell idea could have been good horror, but the execution and then the idea of shooting them is just amazingly bad. A bell with a hole in it is still a bell? You're really going to have to pretty much perforate them into lace to stop them ringing. Even worse if it's those dome/electric clapper bells that most schools have. They ain't gonna shut up for anyone.
Though the idea of kids running around screaming because of the loud bells perforating their eardrums and then the locals turn up with AR15s and start just adding to the din, is just a picture I can't put down. Never stop finding these weird novels, they alwyas make my day.
the line in the thumbnail, wtf??!!!! wow, just wow! and the bell incident, omg wow...
Have you ever read the House of Night series/would yo be willing to examine it? There's a fallen angel if that sweetens the pot but also these books haunt me to this day
Alizee has covered several of those books in several long videos, and Jacob Tullos had one video about the first 3
I know much of it from somehow. Middle school. Had friends read it like age 12!!!!
It's not on top my list I'll say because... Long and dreadful. Especially long
i too have never encountered a stereotypical popular kid crowd. Then again i am slightly oblivious of social hierarchies and structures with large groups of people? I've had a few friends claim my middle school had one; my high school definitely didn't but i went to a high school where everyone was a nerd so.
I had a very quick rollercoaster from genuenly excited to deeply dissapointed when you said that Thea made a deal with Hayden's mom, because in my mind I was like "Oh. not much has happened in this book so far which means that there would be time for a Persephone myth narrative here. That sounds really cool" but then it just ended up being a super short self-sacrifice thing with little to no consequense on the actual story (other than the bloodrelation thing??? what?)
Anyway, great video!
i’ve just developed a taste for super niche anime stuff that either blew up before I got to it, shortly after, or both.
Black lagoon, world trigger, apothecary diaries (back when the LN translation was up on that old site!), Tsukimichi, Economics of prophecy (still waiting on this one to blow up), Dashing through the dungeons, etc
I grew up along around country boys and we never went stumpin'.
We did, however, go muddin' when you drive your truck/car out into muddy fields for chaotic driving.
Wow, I went through a phase where I was obsessed with Mary Sues as well, back when I was obsessed with das-sporking. I took it VERY seriously. In hindsight I'd consider it very cringey and I don't say that lightly
Huh. According to my goodreads, I apparently I read this in 2012. I have zero memory of it...but I rated it 3 stars, so I guess I didn't hate it? Your summary and analysis was entertaining!
I can't believe you mentioned a cross-dressing surfer dude and never acknowledged that again. Thats the greatest character idea ever, and I'm going to draw him right now
listening to your wonderful pokemon OC makes me realize that in my pokemon fic, i have accidentally made a mary sue.
it's not my OC MC. It's N. I've marysue-ified N. absolutely stellar.
I've never heard of "Stumping," but growing up in Mississippi, we called that Mudbogging
on the lack of demon YA romance . . . i have vague memories of a book i read as a tween/young teen where i think the plot revolves around an angel boy named Gabriel (but not THE angel Gabriel) and a demon boy named Luc (short for Lucifer, but again not THE Lucifer) fight over generic protagonist girl's soul because she has some special ability, but then oops they both fall in love with her too! it might have been a trilogy or it might have just been a thick book? i very much don't remember what it was called but i do remember a part where for some reason a succubus is sent up in disguise to do something to demon boy Luc, and the Protagonist getting jealous when she realizes that the disguised succubus girl was always wearing oversized sweatshirts to hide how stacked she was, and it literally uses the word "stacked" to describe her body type and child me was absolutely baffled by the term and did not understand. but anyway the love triangle is resolved by Protagonist formally choosing demon boy Luc, who has lost most of his demon powers at this point because being in love . . . did something to him i guess?-but also she doesn't stop seeing/making out with angel boy Gabriel either . . . so yeah i think it ended with poorly defined polyamory, basically. does anyone else remember this book? 😂
Edit: it's called Personal Demons, it is in fact a trilogy, and the book covers were designed by the same guy who did Cassandra Clare's City of Bones cover which should give you an idea of how absolutely insane this series was
i feel like teen night club-esque things were more popular in the 70s because the only person irl i've ever heard talk about them is my mum, who always went to the under 18s discos as a kid. maybe it's a mark that a lot of YA writers be old lol. or i live under a rock, idk, i hate loud music and parties anyway, so it's not like i'd be the person to know about night clubs.
In the southern US, we call fast bumpy off-roading "muddin". I have never in the most backcountry agricultural meeting heard anybody talk about stumping, but it could be regional I guess?
I read this book when I was like 14 and I remember LOVING it. I need to go back and read all the books I loved around that age to see how cringe worthy they would be to me now 🤣
hello friend i just finished the video and i dont want u to think these arent as good! i really enjoyed this and it was perfect timing for me to listen to while making tacos for dinner :D have a good weekend 🤝
Ugh, I hate the trope of "You are special because you can resist me". Like: Dude, if you want women to resist you, maybe don't try to be sexy! Make up your mind, man!
Also: "Too beautiful to hurt" ... Yikes. Are ugly girls worth less? Are they less of a person, less human?
Maybe its because i went to pretty small schools in the middle of nowhere, but for me there were DEFINITELY cool kids and jocks and the drama kids , the nerds etc. Everyone stayed in their own groups but i think that was just because people naturally hang out with others with the same interests and, for exaple, the jocks were already practicing together after school, so they just hung out anyways. Idk maybe its a tiny town drama type of thing lol
oh dear now I am slightly worried this awesome you-tuber once came across my cringe ass Mary Sue bashing fics at one point in time. 😅
i honestly think that with how the evangelicals clutched their pearls at vampires and angels, demons would have killed them on the spot
HAHA the teen night club is my favorite trope and I'll never get tired of it. The beginning of City of Bones just rewired my 13 year old brain for sure to love that trope. Every YA series should have at least one nightclub scene to be complete. I remember sneaking into a bar or two at like 17/18 and feeling like such a bad bitch. 😅💀 I FR FR thought I was living in an episode of Pretty Little Liars or some mess.
you look absolutely gorgeous in this video i'm in love with your outfit and accessories!!
falling under, huh
falling under.................... huh..............
6:41 : I imagine it's probably called Stumping somewhere, where I'm from we called it hill-hopping
Ooooooo i love the outfit!! The horns and the coat are styling
Most honest title I've ever seen on this channel
It's hard naming videos so sometimes you need to just own up: it's another dumb book I enjoy
Loving the choice to mostly wuss out of any actual demonic characteristics for Haden, except for one disturbing temper tantrum. A bold creative decision, truly.
I’m just over here enlarging my pupils eerily
In Canada, "stumping" is known as "going for a rip."
Never heard the term "stumping" either, but that just sounds like "off-roading".