PARANORMAN: Agatha’s Mother is the TRUE THREAT (Theory)

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  • čas přidán 9. 08. 2018
  • Check Out More Theories: • MY BEST THEORIES ParaNorman, alike Coraline, Corpse Bride, The Nightmare Before Christmas, Kubo and the Two Strings, and pretty much any other stop motion animated creepy movie, is a phenomenally good at keeping its secrets hidden. So today, I share an idea, that, while likely far-fetched, is still amazingly epic and tons of fun to consider and think about. I hope you enjoy this theorizing session that is NOT bound by logic for once.
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Komentáře • 733

  • @adeleaslan8182
    @adeleaslan8182 Před 3 lety +185

    Actually, I think I understand what she meant by playing. Remember when Agatha said she was talking to her mother and then they took her away? Her mother was dead. She was a ghost and no one else saw her. Maybe they were playing together and she was being careless and some people saw her and realized she was talking to the dead. I still believe the twin or brother theory because if the passed down last name and might’ve even reported her

    • @roguehordeclone7671
      @roguehordeclone7671 Před rokem +7

      I completely agree, it's the only explanation, my mother would never do that to her, I'm sure of it, so she must have been just playing with her own mother and was seen by someone

    • @roguehordeclone7671
      @roguehordeclone7671 Před rokem

      @@someadorablebuffcat exactly

    • @gonhunter3994
      @gonhunter3994 Před rokem

      Agreed with everything except the "her twin snitched" the concerned couple of peeps were the jurors/witnesses

  • @Lambdagama8947
    @Lambdagama8947 Před 5 lety +461

    Or Agatha's mother had a sibling who had children, so Agatha's cousins had descendants, leading to Norman

  • @JustinY.
    @JustinY. Před 6 lety +1707

    It just works

  • @Feldsparb420
    @Feldsparb420 Před 5 lety +465

    Quick fun fact:
    The name 'Agatha' literally means 'good'

    • @matdanih
      @matdanih Před 5 lety +22

      It's greek

    • @the_criminal_mastermind
      @the_criminal_mastermind Před 3 lety +9

      Woah really it makes sense now

    • @faendralostrego5246
      @faendralostrego5246 Před 3 lety +5

      I thought the Greek word for good was Kalos?

    • @droidmaker7932
      @droidmaker7932 Před 3 lety +1

      Which is ironic, she did something bad to those that fear her power.

    • @JoeMama-kj7bq
      @JoeMama-kj7bq Před 3 lety +2

      @@droidmaker7932 To be fair, she was a little girl that was as scared of them as they were of her.

  • @jukou4life583
    @jukou4life583 Před 6 lety +627

    I remember this theory. It’s one of my favorites

  • @RoboticPossum
    @RoboticPossum Před 5 lety +146

    Interesting theory..I just watched a clip though from the movie where Agatha mentioned how her mother and her used to visit the tree often until the mother was taken away but the judges and she never saw her again... Which I always had believed implied that Agatha's mother was hung for witchcraft as well, this being before Agatha was killed. It could be possible that the mother had another child before this though. And I do thinking would be a boy seeing as a woman COULD still pass on the family name,but nother girl wouldve also been killed while a boy's chances back then we're better

  • @agustincolon4508
    @agustincolon4508 Před 6 lety +334

    Bruhhhh, I loved the ending and how it connected to coraline. It was just so perfect!

    • @jgem4977
      @jgem4977 Před 5 lety +1

      Agustin Colon pause what???!

    • @smb-c3po
      @smb-c3po Před 5 lety +1

      Bruh, saying "bruh" makes you you sound like a douchebag, bruh!

    • @kfactor20
      @kfactor20 Před 5 lety +1

      Ky V 13:27 that's what they were talking about when they said it connected to Coraline

    • @jadahoizer9668
      @jadahoizer9668 Před 4 lety +4

      Sora Song no it doesn’t

    • @Whoisthatguy906
      @Whoisthatguy906 Před 4 lety +3

      @@jgem4977 He's saying that the Beldam from Coraline is supposedly Norman's great great great grandma

  • @magnificloud
    @magnificloud Před 6 lety +608

    THATS MY THEORIZIN BOI! Isn't Laika so intricate with their movies? As an artist, I am obsessed with their work. As I am with yours! YOU GO THEORIZER! YOU GO LAIKA! YOU GO... purgatory?

  • @feodorawicked5014
    @feodorawicked5014 Před 6 lety +67

    The second he said, "Massive leaps in logic" I instantly knew I'd get a little peeved about some things.

  • @whisperingsims
    @whisperingsims Před 5 lety +201

    I think powers develop over time. We didn't get to see what kind of powers the Uncle had and Agatha is so powerful because her powers developed over time while she was Dead.

    • @AlashiaTuol
      @AlashiaTuol Před 4 lety +29

      I think that because the Prenderghasts and descendants are kinda bridges between the living and the dead while alive, they're closer to the physical plane while dead and more able to manipulate it. Basically, normal people become ghosts, Prenderghasts become poltergeists, and the more emotional, the more powerful. (Source: that scene in which Uncle Prenderghast, having shown no other powers besides the ability to see ghosts while alive, blows up Norman's school's bathroom seemingly without intending to, merely because he was really happy while crossing over).

    • @d.d717
      @d.d717 Před 3 lety +8

      @@AlashiaTuol Thats actually a very good idea.

    • @EvonixTheGreatest
      @EvonixTheGreatest Před 3 lety +1

      But she was portrayed as always having that power

    • @MusicLoverMN
      @MusicLoverMN Před 3 lety

      Omg that makes so much sense🤯

    • @EvonixTheGreatest
      @EvonixTheGreatest Před 3 lety

      But she cursed them days after she was killed and Paranorman didn't have anything like that even though he was older than that.

  • @hailedspace25
    @hailedspace25 Před 6 lety +285

    I didn't see it the first time so time to see it for the first time :)

    • @rottenapple6161
      @rottenapple6161 Před 6 lety +5

      HailedSpace25 I thought I already saw it it's still good 🤔😁

  • @Virgin_Succubus642
    @Virgin_Succubus642 Před 3 lety +57

    Maybe Agatha’s health decreased immensely when she was a baby and her mother turned to the help of a different witch to save her life. This managed to save her, but had sinister consequences, giving Agatha supernatural abilities as she was trapped on the bridge between life and death. So she had a connection to both worlds.

  • @queendsheena1
    @queendsheena1 Před 6 lety +413

    Sorry, it got removed. Loved how much out of the box thinking went with figuring out Agatha and the universe in ParaNorman.

  • @aemidaniels
    @aemidaniels Před 6 lety +673

    it didnt have to be a twin. As weird and unbelievable as it sounds, people DO get re-married and have offspring with other people where the children sometimes choose the moms name instead of the dads when they grow up, and there is always a chance that mom could have already been pregnant when her daughter died (we dont know when dad left/died) or the sibling could have been older. An older brother/sister works out just as well too because younger siblings often dont have a super strong connection with their older siblings. If she had a sibling who was maybe already out on their own, the bloodline would continue and she still would only really have her mom. Afterall, kids in that era would leave the house WAY earlier than they do now. It wasn't uncommon for children as young as 13 to be looking at getting married. At her age, Agatha should have already been looking at potential husbands for when she started on a family of her own in maybe 4 years or so.
    I dont think it was some sort of grand necromatic conspiracy. I think that there was a powerful connection with the dead that just got passed down through the generations, watered down as mentioned as it went. but I think that when she said she was just playing, it was more likely that nobody explained to her what her powers were or how to hide them. For her, speaking to the dead was fun. She made new friends that didnt' tease her for being weird. For her, using her powers was a game. she was literally just playing with something she had no idea about.

    • @henith7850
      @henith7850 Před 5 lety +44

      It did have to be a twin because the trend had to be started right after Agatha died, and she said that she never saw her mother again so her mother couldn’t have started it, so it had to be a twin, because of when the trend of the book reading began.

    • @yourmom66600
      @yourmom66600 Před 5 lety +24

      She was playing with fire. The judge said so.
      "I was only playing.."
      "Aye! With *FIRE!"*

    • @RxtohTheMighty
      @RxtohTheMighty Před 4 lety +17

      @@yourmom66600 Yup. No offence intended, but I'm sure the zealot judge from a group of religious fanatics infamous for killing innocent people that deviated in any way from their impossible standards (Puritans) is a reliable source of justice. I also don't buy the conspiracy theory, and I think that Aggie and her mom/brother were innocent people caught up in terrible circumstance.

    • @_Fizel_
      @_Fizel_ Před 4 lety +7

      @@nicolerees7055 That's literally what the phrase means!

    • @carna-9501
      @carna-9501 Před 4 lety +8

      Back in the day, that wouldn't have been accepted, even still today its not seen as acceptable by a lot of people

  • @kitkat4275
    @kitkat4275 Před 6 lety +452

    The mom and the brother are really bad people if this is real. And I really believe it's real

    • @kitkat4275
      @kitkat4275 Před 6 lety +40

      They blamed it all on her, kinda a dick move, in my opinion

    • @kitkat4275
      @kitkat4275 Před 6 lety +3

      Tru, I guess.

    • @macklyon7476
      @macklyon7476 Před 5 lety +57

      I think it was just the mom that was horrible. She could easily have gotten the brother to go along with it seeing as he was a young impressionable child at the time. It it was true that he read to her, that shows remorse as he had grown up and realized how horrible it was to do.

    • @alkebulanawah4242
      @alkebulanawah4242 Před 4 lety +1

      Then she is also evil 2

    • @ryleejam
      @ryleejam Před 3 lety +1

      What if was the grandparents

  • @cutecats532
    @cutecats532 Před 5 lety +20

    Yea I was with you until the leap in logic about how she got blamed for it. It could've just been that she was noticed by townsfolk, maybe she was playing with their dead children. And it may not be necessarily true that the powers were weaker through the generations because maybe no one else had ever been that badly hurt since. Though it may be. Great theory.

  • @Lytahayward
    @Lytahayward Před 3 lety +10

    I know this is 2 years old but the tie to coraline and the beldam at the end... its TOO coincidental. It just works. It fits perfectly with the theories on the beldams past.

  • @honeydog9174
    @honeydog9174 Před 6 lety +52

    MAKE A FRAN BOW THEORY PLEASE

  • @poweredbymoonlight9869
    @poweredbymoonlight9869 Před 5 lety +66

    what if her mother had a brother herself?

    • @anniebannanielosttheirnanny
      @anniebannanielosttheirnanny Před 5 lety +5

      Powered by Moonlight then only she would have necromancy because he theorized that she did it after her husband died. If she already had the ability alongside her brother, they wouldn’t have to practice witchcraft since they already got it.

  • @talkingplant6581
    @talkingplant6581 Před 6 lety +181

    Hey another-
    Oh, a reupload.
    Well, it shouldn’t have been removed anyways, and it was probably over optimistic of Me to assume a second video in the same day.

    • @TheTheorizer
      @TheTheorizer  Před 6 lety +24

      2 hours I'm posting another Moana video.

    • @talkingplant6581
      @talkingplant6581 Před 6 lety +8

      The Theorizer oh-
      wELL THANKS :333
      Always love videos from you!

  • @saynuka7893
    @saynuka7893 Před 6 lety +199

    Last time I was this early I hadn’t watched Paranorman

    • @smb-c3po
      @smb-c3po Před 5 lety

      There's no such thing as being early to a video, it wouldb't even be uploaded yet.

    • @spaghettimastercuzwhynot4531
      @spaghettimastercuzwhynot4531 Před 5 lety +2

      @@smb-c3po YO WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ANYONE CAN BE EARLY TO A VIDEO IF THERE RIGHT AFTER AN UPLOAD YOUR NOT SMART LEARN YOUR BASICS IDIOT/DUMMY

    • @spaghettimastercuzwhynot4531
      @spaghettimastercuzwhynot4531 Před 5 lety +1

      @@smb-c3po plus yes the video would upload or it wouldn't exsit idiot

  • @julesthompson6690
    @julesthompson6690 Před 6 lety +102

    Dear Theorizer,
    Me and you would be friends

  • @perpetrin
    @perpetrin Před 5 lety +64

    Well, I don't have time to read all the comments, and I'm sure that another fan proposed it but anyway, I have an opinion: what if the necromancy genes in Agatha were not from her mother, but her father? Let's suppose: Mr Prenderghast marry a woman and have a daughter with her, but he has to move and abandon them for a reason or another, but he transmitted the necromantic powers to Agatha. The mother was forced to raise her alone, dealing with the necromantic powers she had (and leading for the mother to denounce her to the judges). The father, on his side, move and travel, marry with another woman, creating a new lineage leading to Mr Prenderghast and Norman Babcock. Is it to far-fetched?

    • @alfagamerpro5149
      @alfagamerpro5149 Před 5 lety +5

      It's not so crazy, I think I agree with you

    • @anniebannanielosttheirnanny
      @anniebannanielosttheirnanny Před 5 lety +9

      Yeah and the father passed his looks down to Agatha and Norman. The reason why the two look similar. This theory and the one in the video both have good stories behind it and is well backed up.
      One slight issue. How would the story of Agatha come along. Since the father left, he wouldn’t know about Agatha’s death or where she was buried. The mother pretty much ran off since Agatha hasn’t seen her mom since her death. The story also to have been read one year after to start the trend and to keep Agatha at bay. A sibling on the mothers side would have to do it but how would it reach the fathers side. Would the sibling try to find his father and eventually succeed? Inform the father of Agatha and her death and trick him into reading the story at her burial sight every year not knowing the consequence?

    • @AlashiaTuol
      @AlashiaTuol Před 4 lety +8

      "Prenderghast" literally means "Ghost-Catcher," which I seriously doubt is a coincidence. Most surnames in the old days were passed patrilineally and derived either from the place your family came from or from your family's traditional employment. Is it a weird name to have in a religiously conservative, xenophobic and paranoid society? Yes. But their ancestors probably once lived in a place and culture more used to them.

  • @samiherter3611
    @samiherter3611 Před 4 lety +7

    From what I've been told, sensitivity to the spirit relm and clairvoyance can be hereditary without witchcraft and such practices. I'm litterally named after my clairvoyant great grandmother because my mother was jealous that her sister inherited the "gift" when she did not.

  • @roseyastro
    @roseyastro Před 6 lety +93

    Okay, so I believe in the twin thing but I want to try to explain the family deal here. She didn't talk about her father so he probably left. But why would he leave his wife and kids. Maybe the wife kept a secret from him. She might have had the ability to see spirits and that power (kind like discussed in your incredible theory) got passed on. If she had a twin he might have gotten it too. Norman told his family about it so she might have said thing about it too. If she discussed it with her dad the wife might have felt obligated to tell him the truth. Out of fear he left but there's something else. Out of hatred and betrayal of his family lying to him, he might have snitched. Family as a kid are the first people you tell so the mother told her not to tell anyone else. The father might have told the judges about it. Or might even BE a judge. She couldn't find her mother so what if she died too. Now for the twin. If I were him I would have learned to keep my mouth shut about those things. And then teach future generations. But Nolan wasn't taught that. It would be logically impossible to obtain a power like that randomly. His grandmother obviously knows stuff about Norman's condition. But why would his parents not. Does it skip a generation? His great uncle might have had a sibling that was the parent to the grandma. We have to remember hidden genes when think about this. It's kind of like how eye color is made. So Norman's father should have had the hidden gene needed for this. And since it's a "power" it may be easier to obtain.

    • @shayziekaizie
      @shayziekaizie Před 5 lety +5

      Skull Luver the grandma that Norman is close to is actually his father’s mom.

  • @eserey
    @eserey Před 4 lety +9

    I remember the judges saying that she was playing with fire.

    • @FireHeart2829
      @FireHeart2829 Před měsícem

      I think that's just a saying, meaning what she was doing was dangerous

  • @microwavetrash2501
    @microwavetrash2501 Před 6 lety +176

    (whispers) corpse bride isnt laika or at all in the same universe

    • @CrystalDragen
      @CrystalDragen Před 6 lety +56

      Laika was one of the production companies that worked on it. It used to be commercial(helping make other films) but now focuses on making its own films.

    • @microwavetrash2501
      @microwavetrash2501 Před 6 lety +16

      CrystalDragen Yeah. Thats why henry selick directed The Nightmare Before Christmas. Just saying the universes arent tied

    • @CrystalDragen
      @CrystalDragen Před 6 lety +21

      Even if they aren't technically tied the same crew members could have worked on it and been inspired to tie them together. There have been shows created by different networks/producers that are still "tied" at least by the creators head cannon.

    • @CrystalDragen
      @CrystalDragen Před 6 lety +21

      What I'm saying is Crossovers happen. Sometimes they aren't necessarily official because of studio rights. That doesn't make them any less valid.

  • @cirianarodriguez5419
    @cirianarodriguez5419 Před 4 lety +28

    What if the Cat in Coraline is actually Agatha's brother. I mean in the movie the beldam called the cat by a name and maybe the reason he helped Coraline was cuz he felt guilty about his own sister.

  • @indieree7987
    @indieree7987 Před 6 lety +43

    His videos are SO amazing even tho it gets too freaking scary and intense, I cannot stop watching it.
    Honestly his videos makes me wanna throw my phone across the room once the creepy background music comes on- 😂😂😂
    But i can’t stop seeing what happens next. AWESOME THEORIES 😍

  • @Bubblesxoxo2002
    @Bubblesxoxo2002 Před 5 lety +5

    I absolutely loved this movie and the underlying character behind Agatha. For not actually having a whole bunch of screen time you can kind of see her pain. she was just a child with a gift she didn’t understand how to control and when she was killed (basically murdered) she wanted to take her anger out on the men who were supposed to protect her and the town, the judges. They took everything from her just because she was different then

  • @notificationgangmember9339

    "How would a child have access to those tools?"
    Me, an 11 year old that practices witchcraft: "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @frankhenzel5049
    @frankhenzel5049 Před 6 lety +83

    What if she had a baby brother or the mother was pregnant

    • @yourmom66600
      @yourmom66600 Před 5 lety

      If the mother was the one who has necromancy, her last name wouldn't stay but the men's as generations pass by. Is it not??

  • @Kinkajou420
    @Kinkajou420 Před 6 lety +21

    I just started watching this makes me REALLY wish I payed more attention to everything they had on exhibit while I had the chance.

  • @henith7850
    @henith7850 Před 5 lety +6

    I think that Laika should make a sequel to paranorman where Norman discovers the full extent of his powers, and Agatha’s mother is the main villain.

    • @henith7850
      @henith7850 Před 5 lety +1

      And Then since Agatha’s mom would be the villain, I guess that Agatha would have to be involved, and would probably be resurrected somehow. But I do know that my idea for a sequel to paranorman will never happen because LAIKA doesn’t do sequels.

    • @henith7850
      @henith7850 Před 5 lety

      Or maybe Norman would somehow accidentally go to the afterlife and that is how Agatha would get involved by going back to the land of the living.

    • @henith7850
      @henith7850 Před 5 lety

      And the way Agatha’s mother would still be alive is that she has been using magic to keep herself alive.

  • @maxbrown429
    @maxbrown429 Před 6 lety +48

    Why NOW would it be taken down? It just doesn’t make any sense...

  • @kimberlymartin7498
    @kimberlymartin7498 Před 6 lety +42

    Please make a theory about the Beldam being the the mother of Agatha. That theory holds more water than you may have originally thought.
    If you look at glass plated/china structure of the Beldam's face more clearly at the eyebrows they don't seem to proportional to her face. And if you take another look at the Beldam's eyebrows, they seem to have been drawn on/cracked thinner than they should have been. They seem like they should have been way thicker; and this is also due to her skull structure. I have noticed in both women and men that more pronounced the jawline and the skull is the more likely they are to have thicker eyebrows. And based off of the fact that the Beldam uses whatever spare parts are at hand to keep her decaying body from withering away. And as a direct result the Beldam had to use glass/china plates to fix her face. What if the hooked and enlarged nose of the china skull is a direct result of her decaying. Think about it this way... When china breaks some pieces go missing. So all the pieces don't fit the same way they used to. And by using china plates the nose would be the hardest part of her face to recreate. Plus the hair parting and how it is split in the middle of her head. I also noticed how the blue boy had strikingly similar facial features in comparison to Agatha and Norman. I suspect that the boy in blue is related to the two. I suspect Agatha's mother is the Beldam and the Beldam possibly had another child. Blue eyes and blond hair are recessive traits. Therefore the blue boy must have had another father than the father of Agatha.And if you look at the Beldam's hair, it is a caramel color. Therefore the blonde hair Gene must have been present. I suspect that but it must have been another man in the Beldam life, other than Agatha's father. Just like Agatha's hair, the Beldam's hair is parted down the middle. I suspect that Agatha inherited her black hair from her father and so did her brother due to the fact that they were twins. Therefore resulting in a possibility that Norman would inherit the same characteristics. It's also apparent that I did not inherited both of her parents facial and hair features. If you look closely episodes of dead children at the beldam had trapped and killed they all look similar to Agatha. I believe this to be because their nose structure, jaw structure, and cheek structure. If the Beldam is based off a witch/person who came from Massachusetts, the facts and the timelines would match up perfectly. I also noticed a striking similarity between a certain tree, that can be seen in both Coraline and ParaNorman. Therefore, I do not think that your theory on beldam being the mother of Agatha is so ridiculous after all.
    Please reply to my comment whether or not you think is evidence hold any value.
    PS I am a big fan of your videos and I often rewatch them to get a different perspective on the movies that we watch in our daily lives. Your videos also help need to see the world and a different point of view. I can't wait to see your next video as always it will be amazingly good.
    PPS I apologize for the long comment section.

    • @debater452
      @debater452 Před 2 lety +1

      The is a problem whit this idea. The Beldam moved to Oregon in the mid 18 hundreds but Agatha was born in the early 17 hundreds so there is a centry and a half cap between these events

  • @KanishQQuotes
    @KanishQQuotes Před 6 lety +20

    So Agathas mother is also the other mother from coraline
    Which might explain the father not present (possibly enslaved by her, or sacrificed)
    Her guilt that combined with her evil made her the manipulating entity

  • @Recoil1808
    @Recoil1808 Před 6 lety +4

    One thing, though: necromancy is divination through communion with the dead, not the act of communion in itself, hence the -mancy, which indicates something relating to divination.. Of course, in popular media, this often devolves into black sorceries which conjure up the dead, with or without souls (depending of how they want to depict the art).

  • @hellionsapphire6166
    @hellionsapphire6166 Před 6 lety +8

    I see your point but I have one as well. Necromancy is the ability to control the dead. Yes it involves speaking with them. But not to the extent you are implying. Speaking with ghosts or spirits is more like a family gift. Passed down from generation to whom the gift chooses. Its not something you practice. Its something given.

  • @LJ-wm9dm
    @LJ-wm9dm Před 6 lety +7

    I haven’t finished the video (but I will). What if Agatha and her twin were playing and he died whilst they were playing? So, this drove Agatha to find out more about necromancy.
    Remember when Norman was getting chased down (I don’t remember who)? Maybe Norman is in Agatha’s twins place, looking for his twin but he can’t, they won’t let him because they are already dead and so is he. Then he finds his twin, Agatha. He stands in Agatha’s place for a moment but realises it’s not him, it’s his twin. The reason why they can’t see him or hear him is because he is already dead and but found his lost twin.

  • @demongirl1019
    @demongirl1019 Před 2 lety +3

    13:28
    I always thought that the Belldam was somehow related to Agatha, when I first saw the movie I thought "What if the other mother was a doll made for Aggie and that doll held some kind of magic" idk I was 9 when I saw it. Definitely would read this fanfic tho uwu

  •  Před 5 lety +2

    The character design for Agatha in the end, with the branches connecting her to our world, and the afterlife, with her elongated neck AGH THIS STUDIO IS JUST TOO GOOD WHY

  • @CyanideOwl
    @CyanideOwl Před 5 lety +9

    Says Frankenstein.
    Shows Frankensteins monster.
    Everybody: *Triggered*

    • @siyahautumns9922
      @siyahautumns9922 Před 5 lety

      I mean but everybody recognizes the difference between the two of them but still refers to them both as simply Frankenstein.

  • @lark_art
    @lark_art Před měsícem +1

    You know it's getting good when he puts a warning, recommends another video, AND watching a whole other movie, let's go

  • @daltonmortimer7735
    @daltonmortimer7735 Před 6 lety +30

    The words you're looking for are blood magick, magick is a skill and anyone can learn it but its energies can become bound to experienced or frequent practitioners thereby given the descendants of said practitioners natural tendencies affinities talents or just a surplus of energy, however if those powers arent maintained by education and techniques they will delute, the good news is if Norman works at it he can become as powerful as agatha if not more

  • @raz0rblad380
    @raz0rblad380 Před 6 lety +4

    I feel like aggies Dad reported her. He’s never confirmed to be there but he’s never denied to be there either. It’s possible. Aggies Mom and brother probably left town and only came back on aggies death day. Once the judges died aggies brothers child becomes the first curse holder. Then the curse holders niece or nephew succeeded him or her. This succession continues down to great uncle prenderghast who passes it down to his great nephew Norman.

  • @joshuahart266
    @joshuahart266 Před 5 lety +6

    The seven wonders on which if you want to become the next supreme as in AHS: Coven. You need to pas teleportation, return to the real world etc.

  • @LMSPetRescue
    @LMSPetRescue Před 5 lety +2

    I think Agatha’s dad probably left and got remarried afterwards had a son. I’m thinking he left because her mother died and she was left under the care of the village, but she could still see her mother and didn’t understand that her mom isn’t still there. Otherwise why wasn’t her mother put on trial for being there during her necromancy? Then a family member stumbles across Agatha’s vengeful ghost or perhaps her mother and discovers how to make her sleep every year

  • @cj_abaddon7475
    @cj_abaddon7475 Před 3 lety +4

    I refuse to believe that some of LAIKA's movies are stop motion!
    I mean, come on! They look WAAAAAY too incredibly detailed!
    Those developers, producers and writers did one heck of a job

  • @JackieRoxs
    @JackieRoxs Před 6 lety +3

    It works. I do think that maybe the power doesn't dilute, it isn't natural. Maybe seeing/talking with the dead is a given, but they would actually have to know the spells to use the curse and other things.

  • @Gothtiddy
    @Gothtiddy Před 5 lety +4

    well the brother could be older and the father ended up leaving or dying after Agatha it could be a reason for Agatha to start talking to spirits for closure or something. Just a thought

  • @ivanagonzalez8392
    @ivanagonzalez8392 Před 5 lety +15

    Bruh I love your theory and everything but may I add something???
    What if the mom was a witch. Like that's why she came to the New World, to create a coven. And she made a deal with the devil (as per witch rules) and she had two of his kids. That's where their power comes from. That's why both of the kids are necromancers. The town was getting suspicious so the mother puts the blame on Agatha so she and the son can escape, then **insert the rest of your theory here**. But hey it's just a theory. 🤷‍♀️

  • @endiebandit
    @endiebandit Před 6 lety +15

    Do more paranorman theories! Please!

  • @CrystalDragen
    @CrystalDragen Před 6 lety +6

    I actually thought you were going to go on the route of her being descended from a god like Kubo. Or from Kubo himself, I mean his grandfather name Raiden is the same name of the Japanese god of thunder and lightning. And alot of her attacks look electrical based. And I always thought of Agatha as being born out of wedlock, as puritan communities especially frowned upon children of those unions. Or maybe if we're going the nonhuman route with Mom being a witch, maybe Daddy dearest wasn't human.

  • @birdsnestfern5635
    @birdsnestfern5635 Před 4 lety +6

    My take on this theory:
    Agatha's mother (AM) and twin brother (TB) was a power-hungry witch who wanted to become more powerful than she already was. She caught wind of a powerful being in the state Coraline takes place in. As a means to get an impressionable vessel she marries and intends to have a child. It happened to be twins, but she could deal with the other baby later. She immediately uses TB as a temporary vessel so she can speak to the deamon she heard about. Unfortunately, her husband walks in on his wife and newborn speaking in a demonic language, so he has to go. The twins start growing up and as to keep the children from telling everyone AM tells them that what they do is a super secret game. AM is finally summoned to the demon and 'sacrifices' Agatha so she and TB can move away without much suspicion. TB grows up and pretends to forget about his demonic childhood while AM makes small sacrifices to the demon in the well before building a secondary portal in her house to get to the other world easily. TB has had children by now and often goes to read to his sister under the tree. As his mother's health declines he gives the task of reading to one of his children while he takes care of her for a day. AM, or the Beldam lures her only son into the Other World as an offering to be devoured. TB makes it out alive, creating his own portal out of fear and will, but the other world's magic leaves him deformed (de-CAT-formed).

  • @well_cooked_steak8716
    @well_cooked_steak8716 Před 6 lety +7

    bro i watched Paranorman yesterday and then i saw this video in my notifications, nice!

  • @mossgames216
    @mossgames216 Před 4 lety +4

    At the beginning of the video, I joked about how the Beldam was Agatha's mother... AND HE MENTIONED IT AT THE END ARE YOU KIDDING?! ... I swear; this guy can read minds XD

  • @matthewjimenez655
    @matthewjimenez655 Před 5 lety +13

    So Agatha is Norman's ancestor?

  • @ChampionAshley
    @ChampionAshley Před 5 lety +13

    something that I just thought about today. you brought up in the Corpse Bride video that it seems as though Victor has powers to resurrect (awaken/pull dead people from the land of the dead to the land of the living). you mentioned in this video how that could be explained under the idea that he related to Agatha. and then, a light went off in my brain. FRANKENWEENIE! im sure you've heard of the theory that Frankenweenie and The Corpse Bride are connected, as Victor Frankenstein looks REALLY similar to Victor Vandort. maybe it's possible they ARE related, and thus Victor F. carries the same powers that Agatha had, but less potent, which is how he is able to resurrect Sparkie, as bringing something back to life in the way he did it would be impossible in the era the movie takes place in (around the maybe late 1900s).
    maybe im looking too much into finding connections, but who knows?

  • @abigbear8617
    @abigbear8617 Před 6 lety +43

    Good job no dislikes
    Edit: young children can speak/see/are susceptible to ghosts and the powers could be amplified versions of this young ability which could mean why some adults could use this ability

    • @smb-c3po
      @smb-c3po Před 5 lety

      Do I have this ability in my late 20s?

  • @neshapink17
    @neshapink17 Před 3 lety +3

    I thought they said she was playing with fire? Yea she was seeing the dead, but she said, "I was only playing" and they said, "With Fire"
    Something like that.
    I love these theories.

  • @jcage1022
    @jcage1022 Před 5 lety +4

    Everyone remember:
    Disney advertised Descendants 3 more than Toy Story 4.

  • @katmatensen3453
    @katmatensen3453 Před 5 lety +2

    What if Agatha had a twin brother who died? It could be that she was given the powers because of her connection with her dead twin which is why she said she was "playing" because she was playing with her brother. It could also be why Norman looks like her if hes in a way, the reincarnation of her dead twin.

  • @aclearsky8658
    @aclearsky8658 Před 4 lety +1

    This is an amazing theory, thank you for theorizing my favorite movie. Normally I don't click on theories. or comment. but you are the exception because this was a badass theory, thank you!

  • @cerpujfilms7338
    @cerpujfilms7338 Před 6 lety +3

    Ahhh this was so great, I love these videos laika is my absolute favourite next to wes Anderson and these theories are so enjoyable.. keep it up!

  • @Atlas796
    @Atlas796 Před 3 lety

    Your ideas are too epic I’m dieing of the epicness

  • @lunabunny1047
    @lunabunny1047 Před 6 lety

    I am always happy to see your vids and the creepy ones are the best!

  • @grimmcorvid5713
    @grimmcorvid5713 Před 4 lety +3

    Poor Aggie. She really is a complex character and a nice girl. At least now she is with her mom.
    Her mother was also maybe already dead. Why would she let her die? No she was talking to her dead mom probably. And she is a normal girl seeing spirits. Only the vision was just a vision. It didnt look like that. Its a symbolism. And she has these powers only after death and being angry at what they did to her alas hanged her.
    Plus her mom seing her die would never just burry her and not do anything to the Judge etc. They had a strong bond so it cant be like that. Only if her simbling fid so but definitly not her mom.
    Plus playing. She might be playing tag. With ghosts. We all do that actually we just dont see them aaaand they are it.
    PLUS the story book was about her being a terrible witch and those people who killed her being innocent. WHY WOULD HER MOM READ IT TO HER?! :'D
    Plus heck this is just kinda stupid when you really think about it. "I was just playing" its no more than this.
    Aggie was talking to a ghost and someone saw her. That someone went to tell on her and they searched for her at a time when she was playing outside. This makes semse as one of them litterally is showing others the way if i remember.

  • @allenthepotato
    @allenthepotato Před 5 lety +1

    Well I guess when you have the ability to speak with the dead then you would probably start playing games with them and become their friends, the people probably just saw her playing tag by herself and that's what she meant by I was only playing.

  • @efrainrodriguez8973
    @efrainrodriguez8973 Před 3 lety

    This guys voice is so soothing to listen to. I swear the only ASMR i will listen too.

  • @ninjoewd4900
    @ninjoewd4900 Před 5 lety +4

    13:35 why did i think this was megamind lol

  • @mikaylawilliams7213
    @mikaylawilliams7213 Před 3 lety +2

    It's obvious that Agatha is a witch. I've always known that. And I'm glad you pointed it out. I don't know if I believe all of this theory, but that one detail is definitely correct!

  • @sydneywalton6882
    @sydneywalton6882 Před 6 lety +2

    I assumed Agatha’s father was a demon, and the surname Prenderghast was their mother’s name. This would explain why Agatha was so powerful, and also why she thought it was playing- it’s just a thing she could do at will.

  • @lemonwithaq8478
    @lemonwithaq8478 Před 5 lety +2

    Geez. I watched this when I was a kid and I loved it along with frankenwiener (I think that was its name) and growing up I feel like I didn't hear anything about those movies ever again??? Even though I liked the creepy feel of them??? I know I'm late but anyway thanks for the vid man. Love it

  • @dorianhawkins3562
    @dorianhawkins3562 Před 6 lety +1

    im honestly not even mad this is a reupload of a video ive already seen Im 3h into my birthday and this is just the best gift

  • @glitching71
    @glitching71 Před 4 lety +4

    What if Agatha’s dies, and her dad was ALIVE! that’s how the genes get passed cause Agatha’s dad went on to marry another woman on and her father had the power of Necromancy, and passed his powers to his new Chid.
    And let’s say your theory was used except Agatha’s had no twin it was just her and her mother, Agatha’s mom gave her ex husband the book to keep Agatha’s at bay
    and Agatha’s original father passed down the book to his kids, leading to that moment.
    That’s my Theory.

  • @theramdomchannel8329
    @theramdomchannel8329 Před 5 lety +2

    I don't think Agatha's family would betray nor abandon her like that, but the rest of the story holds up.
    See, you can hurt someone you love so much, with the best intentions. Her brother and mother probably used the book to keep her at bay the same way Elsa was kept locked away (for example) with the best intentions.
    Often we tend to forget one big aspect of culture back then: the culture of secrecy.
    Your husband beats you? keep it secret.
    you baby has any minor birdth rarity? hide it
    You have an adventure? humiliation for the rest of your live... and your close family.
    I don't think her family betrayed her. They did seal her, thinking it was for the best.
    Oh and no, I don't think the spider demon woman was Agatha's mother. That was one of Kubo's aunt's, after she was defeated she was rebirdth like her father... yadda yadda

  • @feodorawicked5014
    @feodorawicked5014 Před 3 lety +2

    The entire theory isn't too far fetched. There needed to be some link in the family tree that connected Norman to Agatha, and symbolism is shown throughout the entire movie, and franchise for that matter. It is hella symbolic that Norman is almost an exact copy of her, and he even gets bullied due to his "weirdness," which can be put as a connection between Agatha and Norman. This connection is amazing, and it really does sell the entire "twin brother" theory. Also, it's not too surprising that the Mother and Brother would pin the blame on Agatha since the townsfolk would be quick to believe that a young female child would be a witch. A young male child though, that wouldn't catch on so quickly. Also, the townsfolk were already suspicious, so the Mother might've seen it as the only way to keep one of her children safe. They might've buried her under the tree as sympathy, reading the book not only to keep the curse away but to also allow her to rest until the next year. Which makes it even more symbolic that Norman, the one who'd represent her twin, is the one who finally managed to give her peace.
    Also: I think it was implied that the mother was also hung for witchcraft when Agatha said the judges took her mother and she never saw her again. Which would make more sense, since back then it was common practice to just assume anyone related to the witch must also be a witch. This still suggests that there must've been a sibling, a male one, who'd manage to slip past the town's suspicions since not a lot of people accused men of witchcraft. The mother must've known this too, so it once again supports the theory that this was her last-ditch effort to protect at least one of her children, knowing that she couldn't protect Agatha. Thus, the twin must've been the one to bury Agatha underneath the tree, probably out of pity. He reads to her every year to stop the curse and allow his sister to rest. Which makes the fact that Norman, the representation of the twin, being the one to allow her peace to be perfect. The reason behind her death is the reason behind her peace.
    The mother might've also known of Agatha's ever-growing powers, which is the main reason as to why she needed to do what she did. I'm taking the guess and saying that the twin's powers weren't as prominent, or at least they were better at hiding them. Agatha, on the other hand, wasn't able to. The mother must've noticed them growing over the years, and knew that soon the Townsfolk would catch on. This is why she and the twin needed to report Agatha, which would ultimately kill the mother, allowing the Twin to be safe.

  • @glitchy9613
    @glitchy9613 Před 5 lety +2

    14:12 this is where i draw the line, that beldam stuff was believable, but... this is just impossible to believe...

  • @davidwhitted289
    @davidwhitted289 Před 6 lety +24

    i have a theory that norman is agathas reincarnation

    • @sleepysmartboy6287
      @sleepysmartboy6287 Před 5 lety +8

      Reincarnation would be the same soul in a different body/life though, and if her ghost is there then arguably her soul is still lingering Earth, not inside a father bloodline. Though with a new unit there's separation between the soul and spirit/ghost but I haven't delved that deep into it.

    • @sleepysmartboy6287
      @sleepysmartboy6287 Před 5 lety +3

      @KarateMaster 586 There's nothing supernatural about being transgender though, it wouldn't be a horror movie.
      (Also, I'm FTM so back up, Sir)

  • @khmer06
    @khmer06 Před 5 lety +2

    All this is just like the IT universe! It's all connected in some way, and it has Lovecraftian themes. Call of Cthulhu anyone? Perhaps a bit Azathoth?

  • @kfactor20
    @kfactor20 Před 5 lety

    These videos are honestly awesome! That tie in with Coraline towards the end BLEW my mind and I haven't thought of that! When you said that it also got me thinking, what if the "boring blue boy" in the painting from Coraline was actually the brother of Agatha? I mean it connects with your theory about him being the Beldam's son

  • @the.realshitshow
    @the.realshitshow Před 6 lety

    love love love every video you post💕

  • @lordgiraffe
    @lordgiraffe Před 6 lety

    I'm sorry to hear, your content is too good to be taken down. Keep the good work going!!

  • @ellajazz4861
    @ellajazz4861 Před 6 lety +2

    Oh ParaNorman is my laika movie! Maybe one of my favourite movies of all time ! It has such a creepy atmosphere 😖 it’s awesome 😃

  • @honey_pot5985
    @honey_pot5985 Před 4 lety +1

    Yo..every time u came up with this thing that blew my mind my face went “o-o” I’m legit over thinking everything XD

  • @presidentdoge4221
    @presidentdoge4221 Před 6 lety +6

    She was playing with the dead ... I dunno

  • @coralineadams8070
    @coralineadams8070 Před 6 lety +2

    I need sequels to this theory. I need time lines all of it I'm obsessed now. Not to mention the amount of dead animals in every movie yet lack of graves for them almost as if there's a separate pet cemetery for them. Hint hint.

  • @janicehockman3700
    @janicehockman3700 Před 5 lety +3

    10:13 Gaster, is that you!? PS love your vids!

  • @ThievingWizard
    @ThievingWizard Před 6 lety

    its awesome!!! i hope you do more! :D

  • @henith7850
    @henith7850 Před 5 lety +1

    When Agatha said that she was only playing, Judge Hopkins said right after that “with fire” so I just assumed that she created a ball out of fire and used it to play with a ghost.

  • @missinside5314
    @missinside5314 Před 5 lety

    i really love paranorman and watched a few times already
    i love to another view of the whole story and how its connected to the other movies
    slowly it begins to make sense!!
    i really love that video and would love to see a video (or more) of a theorie with combination of all meantion movies

  • @gamgam1030
    @gamgam1030 Před 5 lety +4

    "We were just playing"
    *Alabama 100*

  • @potatoslayr2270
    @potatoslayr2270 Před 5 lety +7

    "Like most lakia movies"
    uhh does coraline not tip lakia movies to be atleast good?

  • @kk4life32f.6
    @kk4life32f.6 Před 4 lety +1

    HOLD UP STOP THEORIZER IMMA NEED YOU TO CONTINUE THIS I NEED THIS AS LONG AS CORALINES THEORY WAS THIS IS SO GOOD (sorry for the caps)

  • @wulfryanseptim8592
    @wulfryanseptim8592 Před 5 lety +1

    I dont think she got the storm powers until after death, I mean she was obviously killed but she also cursed the judges, I think when the judges were going to kill her it awoken a deeper part of her powers creating the curse, however the "super powers" were because she had become a witch like ghost and wasn't limited by her physical body anymore

  • @damagedspades53
    @damagedspades53 Před 6 lety +1

    Man I love this channel

  • @Anna-tk7ui
    @Anna-tk7ui Před 6 lety +1

    This guy inspires me to make my own theories, even some crap ones. Even some I wanna bury in my brain forever.

  • @DudeitsVero
    @DudeitsVero Před 5 lety +2

    your crazy, I like that 👁️🖤👁️

  • @MichaelStrawn_I_am
    @MichaelStrawn_I_am Před 5 lety +1

    Nice video dude.