The best keyboard ISN'T Keychron.
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- čas přidán 18. 11. 2022
- In this video I build the Zoom TKL Keyboard and compare it to the Keychron Q3.
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Good on you.
W Hippo man
The k2 pro is quite good
Thanks for doing that. Also, which color frame did you use in this video?
What has come out against them? They were always known as kindof a joke deal, so did it come out they weren't doing the tree planting thing? Or are people only just now figuring out that "lord" and "lady" aren't legally recognized cause you paid a company like $50?
I really wish more board manufacturers would have their item in stock and not as group buy only. That is the main reason why keychron boards are often recommended because they are one of the few brands that actually have quality boards that are in stock. If I would want to buy a zoom 65 I would have to pay aftermarket prices or hope that the board will go on sale again some time in the future which might not happen at all.
This. I bought my Keychron Q3 not long ago with a discounted price of 214CAD (after tax), which is around 160USD, and I received it within 3 days
Same. Got a Keychron Q2 because groupbuy is stupid and if I want to build a keyboard I don’t want to wait a year to do it.
look at the QK75, they are making as many boards that sale from Nov 24 - December 3rd or something like that. Amazing keyboard too :)
Amen, we are definitely getting closer to that, manus are starting production pre group buy to get a 1-2 month window instead of 6-9
@@HipyoTech amen?
The zoom tkl ee does include the battery and it shows that you can use it for 4-6 weeks per charge from what I see on the website
Until next week, when the best keyboard will be ...
the QK75
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@@xju303 😧
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Keychron again
Great looking board kit, but the fact that it’s a group buy is a killer for myself.
What is group buy?
@@core3481 They open it up for sale for a set amount of time, then the keyboard is built. You have to wait after you buy it
@@core3481 basically a preorder for a keyboard, where they put the keyboard up for sale between a certain amount of time (usually a month or so) and then close the sale to start producing the units. In a lot of cases, if not enough people purchase or order something in a group buy, it will not get made.
If you're going to get into the keyboard hobby, you're going to have to accept group buys as being a thing if you're wanting to get premium boards. However, this has a very short lead time for being a group buy and I don't think that should deter you from getting it if you're interested. I'm still waiting on a keyboard that I ordered almost a year ago now (Mercury65) that I don't even really want anymore 🥲
only like 2 month wait tho...group buy ends nov 29 and it ships in january...not that bad really
I just finished building my Zoom TKL (first build ever!) and I really love the sound and feel. I didn't buy the internal weight, but I put in the extra foam they sent (I just cut an indent into it to make space for the cords inside). It sounds great even without the weight! I got the aluminum plate because I didn't think I would like it to be too flexible when typing. Totally worth it!
Very cool. I do like that the keychron has Mac/Win switch because I use both but otherwise this board looks better in every way:)
What makes Keychron the undisputed mechanical entry leyboard winner besides simply being in-stock is the fact that they also offer ISO versions of their board. If it wasn't for them I probably wouldn't have ever seriously entered the hobby. Now that I've used their boards for a while I felt comfortable enough to spend a shit-ton of money on a custom ANSI GB board and everything around it to make it my endgame board.
Sorry to respond to an 8 month old comment but wanted to say I totally agree. I got interested in the hobby and needed an GB MAC keyboard and couldn't find one ANYWHERE until I looked at Keychron. The lack of choice is very limiting.
@@rapidpheasant Haha, no problem! Now that I have a premium custom keyboard I give my Keychron K8 the stink eye and rather take my good KB to work and back home again whenever I need to go to the office... I might have to find a second custom keyboard just for work. I have more keycap sets than keyboards so I'm basically forced to, right?
I’m getting into mouse and keyboard for the first time and I also want to game with it. Which one should I get?
@@LeCaleb Keychron just came out with a specific gaming keyboard line a while ago.
I'd say look into that first, but any Keychron should be good for gaming. Just look at which layout you prefer and check those options. As for switches I'd say go linear (red) for gaming, but ultimately it's a preference thing.
@@KeRaySh thanks
I’m
So glad I purchased this keyboard. Hope it can arrive soon.
I haven't even seen the video yet and I know it's gonna be a banger!
I hope they make some more Zoom65 (or better, they don't sell them only in GB) or a Zoom65 V2. I think they could switch the Wireless for RGB (the battery concerns me a bit) but I'd love to get that board or even the this new TKL (which looks better than the 65 tbh)
Hey Hipyo love the Videos! Modded my first Keyboard recently, though it was just foam and ghetto lubing. Hopefully with more time I’ll be able to work on my 1st creation. Keep up the great Videos.
Sounds awesome. Don’t down play anything. That sounds cool. After all this guy is famous for Play-Doh’
Sounds awesome. Don’t down play anything. That sounds cool. After all this guy is famous for Play-Doh’
I had mine delivered the first week of February and MAN this thing is amazing.
It sounds, feels, and looks amazing with my current config (all foams, pc plate, Banana Split switches, GMK WOB)
btw this thing is a beast durability wise. My cousin came over to try my board and accidentally spilled his coffee all over it! I guess you could say I got lucky but hey it's still typing this comment
The sound of this keyboard is just .. Wow! So nice!
The next random thing you should consider putting in a keyboard to improve sound is removable wall mounting putty. I used it in my latest video to good effect. Imo it worked better than the tape method, while being just as easy.
I got my Keychron K8 Pro about a month ago and I've been loving it. Excellent deal for $110, unless you're me and got it as a birthday gift, then it's an even better deal c:
I'm torn between the q3 and k8 pro, which of the two would you recommend?
For now I just want a nice keyboard straight out of the box and maybe upgrade it later, although adding some extra foam probably isn't that much work.
I've purchased this keyboard and will hopefully see it in May. I have fewer issues with group buys themselves than I do with the promotion of the GB's. New to the hobby, I have a difficult time figuring out when they are happening, where to go, and who is having them.
Hey Hipyo what are your thoughts about Zoom TKL vs QK75 ?
Sounds great! Hopefully they make a full size one day. Ya I'm one of those people that need the numpad for work. :(
Been looking at getting the Sugar Plum edition from Cannonkeys, and you've helped me decide to do it. Just hate that gotta get it before the end of the month. Wish they'd just produce them to stock the vendors over getting in the groupbuy.
Group buy claims to only be like 2 months of wait, and it’s probably a lot less expensive this way
That sound test though...I need this!
Ok, great channel, good job, you got my vote. Just bought my first ever compact keyboard, the keychron k2, which is kind of ok, but looking for something better.
Bro I'm so glad I didn't buy the q3 before this came out. This keyboard looks and sounds stunning.
Amazing yum thanks for the sound
Hello! Your videos are great for advice, but I have a question. What do you use as your every-day keyboard?
Pre ordered in Sky Blue (with aluminum plate probably get poly if I don't like it but I am a gamer and prefer linear switches), just torn on keycaps to get. Hippo set looks like it will be amazing in it.
I paid for my Keychron Q3, fully assembled, decently lubed switches, arrived TWO days later.
Kinda hard to beat that.
good for you 👍👍👍
Agreed, sounds good, looks good, really good price for what you're getting.
Hipyo I just put olive oil on my stabs on an old hp keyboard. It's sounds a lot better lol. I realized that I wasn't subbed! So I subbed. Love your vids
When they make a full size, I'll be interested honestly
What makes Keychron the winner is I can buy their stuff. I can't type with a group buy and promises.
I ordered a GB keyboard in September with an ETA for the end of October. When October came that ETA changed to November. Now that ETA has moved to January. I don't have time for this. I ordered the keyboard because I needed it, and I'm starting to think most of the MK industry runs on vapor.
I'd love to from-scratch build a keyboard but it's hard to stay excited about a project when the parts don't even arrive in the same quarter I order them. I'm a hobbyist who plays video games, not a business making long-term plans, and I don't order my hardware based on projections.
I'd buy this if it weren't a group buy and I didn't already have the keychron tkl that I love to pieces xD
Will you review some non-standard layout keyboard like the ErgoDox or the Kyria some day or is that not something that interests you?
Bought the wowstick cuz of you, honestly an amazing tool haha. Thank you for informing me it exists :D
man the custom keyboard scene is looking so good since the pandemic hit lol
Great board, but the reason why Keychron is so goated in my book, is that they make ISO nordic boards.
Not a lot of the keyboard community does that.
And no group buys, lots of layouts, lots of authorized distributors so more widely available.
honestly awesome
Yeah they even released the Q9 as ISO. Not very common seeing a sub 60% ISO board!
Yup, Keychron and Vortex are awesome for including ISO Nordic!
But keychron does not offer a split spacebar :(
This keyboard looks really cool. If they had it in a 65% or 75% I would buy it but I don't like TKL.
i need some advice, in my country i can only choose between the keychron q2 or the kbd67 lite which one should i buy?
I would have gotten this if i didn’t get my tiger lite already, but this looks amazing!
I went with Keychron recently for my first foray into custom keyboards. It was my goldilocks board, giving me hot swap,75%, and ISO format. Before this I was using a realforce topre tkl I picked up while in Japan and I got really used to the JIS layout and wanted to keep my big enter key and @ next to P. I would love to try some other, higher end boards in the future but 75% ISO seems to be a rarity.
This is the killer for me, the lack of available 75% ISO options. RK84 and K2 (Come on Keychron and do the K2 Pro as ISO) are the only ones I can actually get my hands on. I've tried using ANSI but ISO is just 100x better for me.
I currently try ANSI after using ISO-DE all my life.
It's not too bad. For programming I actually prefer it because the braces can be accessed more easily.
But reliably hitting enter was a challenge at first.
@@bobbobson6290 am also an iso switcher and the big left shift is more comfortable
Great video to watch right after buying a keychron K1
I just had a thought as a bit more of a semi permanent sound dampening solution would it be advisable to use one of those thicker double sided tapes but not having to peel off the side facing the case
I have a keychron k10 and its pretty pog, sadly i didnt buy the hotswap version but i love the gateron reds that came with it
Zoom65 and tkl are so nice, waiting for my zoom65 EE R2 :))
Hipyo what kind of keyboard should I buy for the laptop I’m getting for Christmas. Which one should I get?
Novelkeys nk87 has this layout and I have been in love with it for the last few months I have been using it
Nice Video! Please do the best 100% Full Size Keyboard 😍
I was wondering about the HHKB type s, is it a good choice?
@Hipyo Tech Where is the best place to buy key switches? I am looking for Boba U4T tactiles W/ clear RGB top, KeebFront tactile dooms, Durock Sunflower tactiles, or Neapolitain Ice cream tactiles. Everywhere seems to be group buy or sold out. Please help!
I'm wondering is this keyboard good to buy or not, Thanks Hipyo Tech for reviewing this kit
I just ordered a K3 pro, so thanks for that timing. nah all good tbh I need the low profile. that looks and sounds ace though
I like the loading screen :D
Now this is a keyboard I would consider building! My only problem is I can never find any good UK layout keycaps to go with such pretty boards
EnjoyPBT or gmk
@@cchambers032 thanks! Will take a look!
Try Nicepbt from Cannonkeys. Or cherry PBT from Novelkeys. Or the GMK keycaps
Listening to the last 10 seconds of this video, I had a keygasm. That is one sexy sound.
Great video Hipyo! Can you explain what's wrong with the aluminium plate?
Is there a build guide for this? Preferably a step-by-step that I can follow without getting too confused, and I placed an order for the Zoom TKL. Excited for it to come and I'm hoping it's not too hard to build the keyboard!
@Hipyo Tech (Lord Hipyo Tech) - I know you're not a fan of this, but I'd still like to consult your expertise. I currently have been using a Kono Kira mechanical keyboard which is a nice compact 10 non-TKL design, but lately it has been glitching out after about 6 years of use and I have to constantly unplug it and plug it back in. Do you have any solid recommendations for a non-TKL keyboard that I can look into that is Hipyo approved?
I know it doesn't matter for most but I need that per key RGB. This is the only thing keeping me from buying this. It has everything else I want in an affordable mech.
I missed the Zoom TKL, because I did not see this video until last week, but the Zoom 75. IT WILL BE MINE!
What are the stab "donuts" for? (2:40)
Just to place in b/w the screw and stab?
I just wish there would be a good custom to buy an in-stock that is ISO hotswap that isn’t Keychron…
Oh my fucking god, that sound test at the end.
Can you tell me where i can get the orange-white set of keycaps at 10:55?
Could you compare the Zoom TKL and the QK75 directly? Thanks Sir Hipyo.
I have a purple/blue setup. Any good keycap suggestions?
zoom tkl vs qk75? specs wise
Is the Guffercty kred GK61 (with the gateron optical yellow switches) good for its price?
was just about to order a Keychron Q2 but now i feel like i have to watch this
same lmao
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Actually the title is a bit of clickbait. This is just an alternative choice
same but q2 is on amazon canada for about 30% less. so hard to choose now. i think i may still end up with the q2 anyways since i can get it now
One is 65%, the other is 80%
ive been wanting to foam my tm680 for a while now but for some reason the screws seem to be glued in or smt
Sure would've been neat if this launched earlier. Now it's QK75 time.
Was it difficult / risky to cut that switch foam?? I am thinking of buying as my first keyboard but am scared to do that kind of thing
It's just foam. It's not going to fry anything if you manage to screw it up so badly that you decide to just yeet it instead.
Idk if u saw my message but you know those silicone keycaps you had? You should just put those in the keyboard and see if it’s quiet or not, and then put like something in between the silicone keycaps
so I’m interested in the best low profile mechanical keyboard, any recommandations? I only saw a few from the gaming comp but I was wandering if this is this kind of keyboard from companies like keychron (witch they have a version but I need more that one to chose from)
honestly, i just bought a keychron kit and it was missing parts (specifically the top of the case), CS decided my kit didn't include that part(?) and refuse to help me get a new part. all over the course of a week or so. never buying from them again so its good to see alternatives.
Hipyo pleas help I need keycaps fore the Epomaker GK68XS in a de ore ch Layout where can i buy this?
Ordered! But, how the heck do you make your boards sound so good?
Nice video!
Almotr went for this keyboard, but in the end went for the Keychron Q1 for the ISO
Portuguese ://
What keyboard should I get. I have roughly a $150 AU budget, I'm thinking of getting the keychron k4 and putting holy pandas on it.
Can't compare the two because one is always in stock and the other is a group buy. Keychron is still the best option for someone looking to get an in stock keyboard
Hoping very much their 75% drops soon, and with a knob! That'd be my ideal board.
try the upcoming QK75 instead. You can choose to use knob or badge
Zoom 75 coming out and it's modular so you can use a knob or an led screen
should i get this or the suit80 :I
Wow very nice. I don't really like the purple on blue though
Was going to throw a hissy fit because i felt the "Seeing a way better option days after buying something" scenario coming.
Buuuuut lucky for me the keychron K8 i got nearly a week ago for 120 euro is probably a better deal than 180 euro keyboard i have to build myself.
Ahhhhhh i love this, but i wish they had full layout options :(
Hey Hipyo, I’m looking at building a keyboard, but I really like full sized and can’t solder, what case/board and key caps do you recommend. My budget is around $400-$500 at max.
Look at alexotos’ newest video. With your price range and preference I believe it’s the perfect premium kit that’s in stock for you that I know of. It is premium, however, and is $400-500 I believe.
It is a barebones kit tho. So no key caps or switches. There are also different budget options I’d like better because I can’t personally spend that much. I know Akko has some full keyboard kits, but I’m not super versed on group buys for full sized boards because it’s not what I usually look for.
I checked Akko’s site and they’ve just recently released a full size kit for $120. Considering how well made the acr pro at the same price range is it would be a nice board for a cheaper price
@@jonathanriggs6599 Is the Akko one a full kit? Like with switches and caps.
@@Astral_Drago yup
Aluminum plate or PE plate. Which sounds better in this keyboard?
How do I even buy one of these?! I have never seen them in stock. I am just getting interested in making a custom keyboard and am starting to realize it is not an easy thing to do :(
Does he use the aurora clear switches or the ws quartz in this?
Keychron smartly include that 4000mah battery, plus the three device support means it can jump from work laptop to ipad pro to pc. Is there an actual competitor to that?
The shipping cost is 95$ to Australia. that makes this keyboard 274$. Outrageous !!
And you still have to assemble it..... Lol.
i'm actually confused about the mirror plate at the back.. is it just for aesthetic purposes? does it have some sort of function? most of the time you won't be able to see the back/bottom, though unless you can display it in an acrylic/ glass case. but overall i am very intrigued!
it's for swag
@@KP-by4eu agreed lmao. I have joined custom mech keyboard hobby for years, and have own some custom ones, but still doesn't really get why they love to design everything on the backside of the board.
I mean using stainless or brass for the back is useful for sound purposes since those 2 types of metal are more dense than aluminium, therefore it reduces hollowness sound.
Its better if they put it at the side, the back is always useless in the eye.
I wanna see what can be done with the Keychron Q-series' plastic body sibling, the V-series. The price point for the V is really, really compelling as an entry level board.
This looks like an awesome KB but I am sad that I missed the GB :(
5:10 bro was jigglin (look at his sweater)
You should look at the parallel sequence, very nice aluminum keyboard
Thanks for the vids, Hipyo Thock - I mean tech. Any chance you can throw in a comment on the keyboards if they're available in ISO? Large parts of Europe use ISO layouts. :) You're popular around the globe!
I really recommend royal kludge h81 with cyan switches, reallly good :D
We need a Zoom TKL vs Tiger 80 video
Hey Hipyo Tech is there anyway to get the keyboard to asia ( specifically Cambodia ) with out costing almost half price of the keyboard just for shiping alone? ( keyboard=179$ and shiping 89$)
@dmmeteleg_ramhipyotech_1 yeah like you aren’t a bot 😂