Thank you for posting this. It's really encouraging as I have been contemplating on doing CELTA for a while now but was put off by stories of non-native speakers and POCs experiencing discrimination in this industry. In my case, I don't fully consider myself a non-native speaker since English is my first language and was the only one I was exposed to since birth. I didn't even learn other languages like Malay and Chinese until I started school. Yet because I was born and raised in a country where English isn't an official language (though it is widely spoken as a second language), I am classified by the rest of the world as a non-native speaker. I can't help but find it amusing yet frustrating at the same time, since I don't really fall into both categories but am more of stuck in the middle.
Thank you for explaining. I have already faced it in the Middle East but I was persistent and got a job as an IELTS teacher in Abu Dhabi. Thank you for your support.
Thank you for posting this video. I'm a non-native speaker and I've just finished the CELTA and this video has been really useful. Thanks again for this and making us aware of Marek and his work.
Great video! Thanks Marek for sharing your experience. Unfortunately, there are many more non-native super qualified English teachers who don't have an EU passport and who struggle to find any job in this field also because of the paper work. The fact that a particular person was born within EU already opens a lot of doors and you don't need to be scared that sooner or later they'll kick you out from the country you are staying at. Anyway, that's the world we are living in and those non-native non-EU teachers should be aware of all the difficulties they'll encounter on their way and really think twice before they decide to deal with all of that. One more piece of advice - if teaching isn't your vocation or your passion, don't even try. You'll burn out.
Thank you so much for this video. It's really frustrating that with all ones qualification and experience in teaching English- for example, I have a B.A and M. A in English and after 15 years of teaching English, I get rejected just because I'm not a native speaker. I mean the discrimination is so real. And the most annoying thing is that, no one tells you in most cases that, you won't be allowed to teach. As a Masters holder, TEFL is so basic. There is nothing challenging in there at all if you consider what one went through in studying syntax, phonology and many other challenging aspects of the language. So, I'm so happy with you and this video. I will definitely subscribe. Thank you loads
Thank you for posting this video - as a non native English teacher, I could really relate to it. What was said about the discrimination was so true and I agree, it is much harder for us to prove ourselves, both to our students and "employers".
Thank you very much SIR.. it is very helpful!!!.. Fyi on a side note:- i can literally right now show you or tell you about some people who speak english as their native language...in US .. none.. of the words ...sound like english whatsoever!! True story..
Thanks for the advice! The trick with mother tongue is really clever👍🏻 I wonder if I can still use it if I have the most Russian name😅 at least, I’m not Natasha😂
Thanks Martin and Marek. You had inspired me to take the CELTA. I'm an Indian and honestly I'd say I'm far more proficient in English than in Hindi as English has been the language of instruction throughout my academic life. Any suggestions for discovering own strengths or finding one's 'niche' until one lands that first job? I'm looking at private tutoring and find the market saturated with teachers offering 'personalised lessons for all levels and all skills'.
Don't mean to be rude to any native English in particular, this is just an anecdote, once when discriminated for not being a native speaker by some prick colleague I told him "Well, it's true, you are the natives, but we, non-natives, happen to be the ambassadors of English to the rest of the nations. Some prefer to learn with the Ambassadors rather than just some chick slang of peasants". And I have just obtained my CPE C2 and am going after my CELTA, I can imagine what the future brings...
Very interesting video, thanks for posting it! Will definitely take into consideration the suggestions about the CV...my personal experience as a non native teacher has been good so far, usually here in Italy having the Celta and the C2 certificate is enough to be hired...it was more difficult to get jobs without the Celta though...
Thanks a lot. I'm sure the C2 helps! You could consider recording a short video presenting yourself and add it as a supporting file with your application. This has the advantage that the employer will actually be able to hear you
Hi Thanks 😊for your video From my part, I don't think it is a matter of discrimination, those schools who require native speakers are fulfilling the need of the market. Students prefer to be taught by natives, therefore, you cannot force them. In addition to what I have already mentioned, you cannot deny the fact that there is a massive difference between a native and a non native speaker, Having said that, it doesn't mean I am trying to demotivate those want to teach English in the UK or in English speaking country, but you can be a better option to the people of your own. English is not my first language. When I first came to the UK I refused to be taught by non native speakers. So they were obliged to put me with a native, otherwise I would have left. So we need to be comprehensive... Thanks
The root of this discrimination is the fact that students believe that if they have a native speaker, they will have better pronunciation Or that they will have the teacher's accent. I have to constantly reminded the students that you don't catch the teachers' accent. I always remind them that whatever their languages are, that's what their accents are going to be forever.
Hi Martin! Do you think it is worth it for a non-native to travel to a native english speaking country just for the purpose of taking the CELTA? Thanks for the video!
Don't forget to check out Marek's CZcams Channel here: czcams.com/channels/fLNw-RvWoz9jWYLIjNi_1A.html
The only sincere man, I have found on the internet to talk about what happens after getting the Diploma to a non native speaker.
Thank you for posting this. It's really encouraging as I have been contemplating on doing CELTA for a while now but was put off by stories of non-native speakers and POCs experiencing discrimination in this industry. In my case, I don't fully consider myself a non-native speaker since English is my first language and was the only one I was exposed to since birth. I didn't even learn other languages like Malay and Chinese until I started school. Yet because I was born and raised in a country where English isn't an official language (though it is widely spoken as a second language), I am classified by the rest of the world as a non-native speaker. I can't help but find it amusing yet frustrating at the same time, since I don't really fall into both categories but am more of stuck in the middle.
Just can't help from commenting on Marek's immaculate pronunciation. I was such a pleasant listen. Thank you fof inviting him!
Thank you for explaining. I have already faced it in the Middle East but I was persistent and got a job as an IELTS teacher in Abu Dhabi. Thank you for your support.
Thank you for posting this video. I'm a non-native speaker and I've just finished the CELTA and this video has been really useful. Thanks again for this and making us aware of Marek and his work.
You're very welcome!
Glad it was helpful 😊
Hello how was it the celta specially pre interview and so i am about to pass it and i am nervous
I've searched for so many videos on this topic and this video is the ONLY ONE that actually prepares you as a non-native speaker.
Great video! Thanks Marek for sharing your experience. Unfortunately, there are many more non-native super qualified English teachers who don't have an EU passport and who struggle to find any job in this field also because of the paper work. The fact that a particular person was born within EU already opens a lot of doors and you don't need to be scared that sooner or later they'll kick you out from the country you are staying at. Anyway, that's the world we are living in and those non-native non-EU teachers should be aware of all the difficulties they'll encounter on their way and really think twice before they decide to deal with all of that. One more piece of advice - if teaching isn't your vocation or your passion, don't even try. You'll burn out.
Thank you for sharing Martin! Marek has a lot of great information with regards to English teaching and CELTA.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video. It's really frustrating that with all ones qualification and experience in teaching English- for example, I have a B.A and M. A in English and after 15 years of teaching English, I get rejected just because I'm not a native speaker. I mean the discrimination is so real. And the most annoying thing is that, no one tells you in most cases that, you won't be allowed to teach. As a Masters holder, TEFL is so basic. There is nothing challenging in there at all if you consider what one went through in studying syntax, phonology and many other challenging aspects of the language. So, I'm so happy with you and this video. I will definitely subscribe. Thank you loads
Thank you for posting this video - as a non native English teacher, I could really relate to it. What was said about the discrimination was so true and I agree, it is much harder for us to prove ourselves, both to our students and "employers".
Thank you! Remember - never ever give up. It's difficult, but I'm sure you'll be able to make it!
@@TEFLEquityAdvocates Thank you for your reply. I never give up - if anything it makes me try harder to prove them wrong! 😊
Thank you very much SIR.. it is very helpful!!!..
Fyi on a side note:- i can literally right now show you or tell you about some people who speak english as their native language...in US .. none.. of the words ...sound like english whatsoever!! True story..
You are so correct. I am in Dubai and having a phd in English but yet the universities here only want native speakers. I am so tired of it as well
Thanks for the advice! The trick with mother tongue is really clever👍🏻 I wonder if I can still use it if I have the most Russian name😅 at least, I’m not Natasha😂
Thanks Martin and Marek. You had inspired me to take the CELTA. I'm an Indian and honestly I'd say I'm far more proficient in English than in Hindi as English has been the language of instruction throughout my academic life. Any suggestions for discovering own strengths or finding one's 'niche' until one lands that first job? I'm looking at private tutoring and find the market saturated with teachers offering 'personalised lessons for all levels and all skills'.
6:39 valuable personal experience- 🙏
Great tip for the cv!! Thank you!!
Celta will be helpful for bank job or mathematics teacher as a non Native .
Thank you so much.
CELTA will be helpful if I will start job in bank or as mathematics teacher as a non Native .
Don't mean to be rude to any native English in particular, this is just an anecdote, once when discriminated for not being a native speaker by some prick colleague I told him "Well, it's true, you are the natives, but we, non-natives, happen to be the ambassadors of English to the rest of the nations. Some prefer to learn with the Ambassadors rather than just some chick slang of peasants". And I have just obtained my CPE C2 and am going after my CELTA, I can imagine what the future brings...
Very interesting video, thanks for posting it! Will definitely take into consideration the suggestions about the CV...my personal experience as a non native teacher has been good so far, usually here in Italy having the Celta and the C2 certificate is enough to be hired...it was more difficult to get jobs without the Celta though...
Thank you for sharing your experience Serena. Stay safe and best wishes. 😊
@@ELTExperiences thanks! You too!
Thanks a lot. I'm sure the C2 helps! You could consider recording a short video presenting yourself and add it as a supporting file with your application. This has the advantage that the employer will actually be able to hear you
What about an EU passport ? I believe it is required if you want to teach in Italy
@@annie947 I think you need one if you live outside the EU and want to teach in Europe....
Thank you, Teacher, for an amazing explanation.
You are welcome!
Hi
Thanks 😊for your video
From my part, I don't think it is a matter of discrimination, those schools who require native speakers are fulfilling the need of the market.
Students prefer to be taught by natives, therefore, you cannot force them.
In addition to what I have already mentioned, you cannot deny the fact that there is a massive difference between a native and a non native speaker,
Having said that, it doesn't mean I am trying to demotivate those want to teach English in the UK or in English speaking country, but you can be a better option to the people of your own.
English is not my first language.
When I first came to the UK I refused to be taught by non native speakers. So they were obliged to put me with a native, otherwise I would have left. So we need to be comprehensive...
Thanks
That's also true.
A C2 holder is actually a native speaker, regardless if he or she was born in an English speaking country.
The root of this discrimination is the fact that students believe that if they have a native speaker, they will have better pronunciation Or that they will have the teacher's accent. I have to constantly reminded the students that you don't catch the teachers' accent. I always remind them that whatever their languages are, that's what their accents are going to be forever.
Thank you. It is very helpful. Great video.
Glad it was helpful!
What about non- native Delta holders? Do they face the same problems in our harsh realities?😊
How exactly are you supposed to hide your nationality when you still need to include your alma mater and job experience in your home country?
Do i need to have bachelor degree in english for getting the teaching job aside from celta and delta?
Hi Martin! Do you think it is worth it for a non-native to travel to a native english speaking country just for the purpose of taking the CELTA? Thanks for the video!
That is a great question. I shall include this in a future video.
Is taking the IELTS test important to increase my chances to be accepted as an ESL teacher?
"I really have to go into the job application process". Schools just discard my application. I should have saved my money.
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Sorry Anna. What do you mean by the lines not working?
@@ELTExperiences sorry, links
No worries. I shall have a look and thanks for letting me know. 😊