Shane Gillis on His Beef with Joe Rogan's Producer Young Jamie
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"Jamie pull up that clip of you having beef with Shane Gillis"
Schultz looks like a young handsome adolph hitler.
And then this podcast reacts to that clip, jamie pulls that clip up and we divide by zero
And the answer is 1 clip, not zero clips
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
alright ya'll this is the etiquiette specifically for gambling. if you back somebody's bet, buy them a lottery ticket, give them money for slots, whatever, you always split the winnings with that person 50/50. it's not so much a rule as it is the honorable thing, and probably the expected thing. like if you don't do that just don't be surprised if you're not friends with that person anymore is all i'm saying.
Staking someone to split or double down is more like a temporary interest free loan. Not at all like going in on slots or lottery ticket where the normal expectation would be to split winnings. Unless of course you both agree beforehand if the blackjack bet loses, their is no repayment of the bet In which case I hundred percent agree with you.
But in the dozens of times I’ve done this in real life, the agreement is always, they will run to an ATM or online transfer me some money should the bet lose, therefore I’m not taking any risk and only want my original bet amount back.
well i kind of disagree, but i mean if you plan out repayment and what happens if the hand hits before then that's between the two people who made the agreement. and it may be that you personally don't expect a cut of the winnings but that makes you a hella cool paragon of humankind and the person should give you a cut anyway because it's a team effort. they wouldn't have won all that money had you not spotted them. friends should share in the wealth, and i'd feel bad if i hit with my friends money and didn't repay them in spades with a cut of the winnings. it's just a chad move to split the money and help each other out that way you both walk away happy. bolstering the friendship instead of possibly sowing resentment. also it's not a thing i would do for a stranger which is why i keep saying friend. because there's always the chance you'll never see that repayment or that you're enabling someone with a gambling addiction. i suppose circumstances vary like say the friend needs the money or you're barely chipping in any money or something. but as a baseline 50/50 splits are the best way to go about it and generally expected. i didn't make the rule. it's the unwritten gamblers code. the rule's more for the benefit of the person recieving the loan than it is for the person giving it anyway to avoid social faux pas, resentment, and other various philosophical reasons.
@@KemperFi13 oh also you may be right if you're staking someone for one normal hand of blackjack because it's generally not a big deal. but in this specific scenario where it's 4 aces and shane is backing 75% of it, which is above and beyond a normal yeah i'll stake you to split or for one last hand thing. so 50/50 and the promise of a repayment for the 3 aces which all won would be pretty fair. that's a bigger back and bigger winnings than normal. and is a wild stroke of luck. shane's still an ass for bullying jamie for more than that though
@@matthewbailey4768 If it’s a loan, you should only expect repayment. If you’re sharing the risk, then I agree with you. 90 percent of the time I’ve been in this situation (as lender or borrower) it was simply to save time from exchanging cash and converting them into chips in the middle of a hand which requires a pit boss, or saving a trip to the ATM in the middle of a hand thus it’s like a 20 second loan, no biggie. Borrower or lender is assuming the original payment not sharing of winnings because we are not talking about investing in a start up or buying into a lottery pool. Your staking or getting staked for like 20 seconds or however long it takes your friend to run to an ATM or Venmo you if they lost
@@matthewbailey4768 At the very least the person shouldn't be surprised when none of their friends will spot them for bets if they don't share the wins everyone else is paying for. You don't have to be a gambling expert to know there's 0 reason to give someone your money and you might only get back what you invested IF they win. It just comes off very cheap and I'd feel like a dick not giving someone something for spotting me money if I win
Jamie for sure makes at least a half million on Rogan lol he shouldn’t be tripping over $800 bucks
I bet he only makes half that, which would still be good money for the job. Maybe Spotify changed it and Rogan is happy to have him but he's honestly a pretty terrible researcher and constantly flubbing the camera shot. Moving to Austin is the outlier. Maybe Rogan bought him a house.
@@danlowethere are times when he can’t find something that I find it within seconds. I think he gets butt hurt about certain topics and doesn’t want to help a guest with their argument so he just says he can’t find it. He knows Joe changes topics quickly so it rarely comes back on him.
@@butlerbees6639 I see that too, where he pushes back like he doesn't want to get banned from the Neil Degrasse Tyson pool party. I appreciate skepticism but just defaulting to a mainstream consensus gets old, especially when they've spent a lot of time debunking mainstream BS.
Im a huge shane fan but with that logic shane shouldn't have cared even more. Dude makes like half a million every month from JUST patreon.
That much to do literally nothing
Andrew's pants are basically shorts now.
Borderline of shants and jorts lmfao
Some men roll up their sleeves when they go to work. Andrew, well....
A buddy of mine had this happen where I backed his bet that he wanted to split. It worked out so that me backing those beta mage the dealer bust on his card instead of getting like a 19 or 20. My buddy paid me the winnings and another guy at the table slipped me a chip too. It’s nice when people recognize and appreciate the help.
Please edit…I had a stroke and my wife died, trying to read this
@@jadenwracing8176 my drunk self was so proud of that comment it feels wrong to edit it
@@hubertcumberdale6404 respectable… have a nice day
@@hubertcumberdale6404well played…I spazzed trying to read that one line but I got through it and understood it ahaha
@@jadenwracing8176 yeah it beta mage me freak out.
The chances of getting four aces, and splitting them like that insane
Not that uncommon... happens more than you think with all denominations 💯
@@HempdogOh yeah? Did your top ramen forehead tiktok haircut tell you that?
it’s 6 decks
I don't get Schulz's appeal. I just don't.
His demographic is 12 year olds who call themselves “hypebeasts”. That should tell you about their IQ level. They care more about looking cool to kids than they care about comedy.
No 1 does
He's changed a lot, and he actually pioneered a lot of the interview type podcast stuff
Im a fan of his standup, not afraid to be cancelled, solid crowd work. But yeah when he’s with the boys it’s not that great.
@wtf1231122 There were thousands of podcasts before he came around...people have been interviewing celebrities since the invention of radio 😂
IMAGINE HAVING BEEF WITH A GUY WHO LITERALLY NEVER SAYS A WORD.
Dicks out for Harambe.
And is labeled "young", eventhough turning 50 years old soon
Who only pulls things up for others
I'll need some proof of that.... "hey Jamie,pull up some proof on that."
When he does say anything, Joe shuts him down real quick.
Tbf, imo Shane recognizes Jamie, the most! Of any guest.
My dawg always passes the beerbong, reminds us Jamie is the captain.
Mark Normand too!
I think you should discuss beforehand who bears the risk, like if the lending person will get their money back or if the bet looses, they lose their money.
If they anyway get their money back, without risk, they don’t really deserve much of the winnings. Maybe like a tip of 5-10%.
But unless you agree on this before, either party could say that they did or didn’t bear the risk after the bet is over.
“Jamie pull up… your balls”
Every deal is different so terminology is key. Did he ask you to lend him money (in which case it's just a loan he pays back no matter what, not an investment in the play) or did he ask "do you want this action" (in which case you're not lending him money, you're investing in the gamble with him and are subject to both gains/losses).
So, my uncle was a professional pool player, and what needs to be said is there is no written or unwritten rule when it comes to backing somebody. Every deal is different just like every game is different.
Sometimes backing somebody is like giving them a loan. Usually interest is applied to the money you were backed. Instead of the backer sitting at the table paying off after every loss, there's an agreement. I'll let you hold 10gs in a week I need 12500.
Now you can turn that 10000 into 100000 and that man only expects12500, and he'll be happy about it.
A backer may set up a game, and pay an hourly wage. My uncle had this happen a lot. Win loose or draw he got paid. Sometimes the back end was more lucrative if you get what I'm saying.
A gambler knows when you're bust, you're at the backers mercy, which is where Jamie was. Especially if the deal wasn't negotiated. In this case don't expect half the winnings. You can complain about it, but never ask anything from that person again or you're probably not going to get as good of a deal.
Jamie needs to grow up, and not try to use the friend card when dividing money he couldn't afford at the moment.
Pool (or golf or any performance based competition) is a lot different than playing cards. The sponsor is almost never capable of securing a bag themselves so they need the player.
As for cards you have to expect your friends are going to be disappointed if you step over their corpse for a hand they started. It's a Schrodinger Equation. Their presence at the table places you in a different universe than one where they didn't influence the cards. If a stranger leaves cards because they're broke then go ahead and take them, they've most likely already walked away or will when the game's over. But if your friend is still there chilling because you've got more money to blow then there's a fine line between the loan being a cover so they can play too and an 'investment' that you're now entitled to. Especially if you framed the whole situation by saying "money isn't real."
@@danlowe Absolutely nothing Schrodinger about this.
You typed a whole bunch of nothing 😂
In poker, when you have a backer, the backer gets their money back, plus half or more of your winnings. I don't know where Shane got the idea in poker, people back other people and only expect back what they lent out to back them. That's not how horses (players who are backed) work.
This wasn’t poker it was blackjack. Also that’s not how poker works you got some prison rules going on or something idk 😂
@@ThumbDr It is how staking in poker works...go to 2+2's staking forums...I played professionally for a year in 2010, only stopped when the government seized the site and all our money (they gave it back three years later).
@@ThumbDr Lol, that does sound like some prison rules. Wouldn't even be worth the risk of placing a bet in the first place if the loaner gets more than 50%. It should always be discussed before hand and if not then 50/50 split is fair.
Never knew yung Jamie looked fuckin older than joe
Normally the one asking money for the bet bears the risk, so if he borrowed $500 and lost he would have owed $500 but if he win, he gives back the $500+ 10-15% tip and keep the earnings. That is pretty common in the betting world.
You clarify before taking the money if the lender is TAKING your bet or if they're LENDING you money to take your bets.
Exactly, clearly too complex for these idiots
The right answer is it depends on the level of friendship between the two. If you're my boy, I'm splitting it with you because money will never come in the way between a friendship when you're out having fun. Borrowing money is another thing, but when you're just out having a blast with a good pal, you split it.
If you're just an acquaintance or someone I don't have a deep friendship with, I give you a cut that I feel is fair. If not, then I tell you: as far as the casino is concerned I'm seated and playing, you're not. They'll kick you out, not me. Get f*cked.
Know your friends there's no way I would ever let somebody give me money to gamble win and then not give them some of the winnings. If it wasn't for them, I wouldn't be able to play in the first place.
don't you hate when you have to sit through an entire podcast before you can get to the advertisement?
😂
If you’re getting backed in poker is 50% profit for backer plus the buy in and the loss is burden by the backer
If he was going to pay you back if they lost then he should just throw you a few hundred. But if he wasn't paying you back then you should definitely even split
As a blackjack player NEVER take money from someone else.
Jamie gives off automatic skeptic vibes like hes apart of mockingbird or something
Adds on a clip? That’s wild
Holy shit the CLIPS have ad reads?!
Shane gives folks flowers more than most and Shulz doesn’t deserve any more imo. He gives off a jealous/envious vibe of Shane
Its good to see big guys understand us. Thank you joe
Even stories about gambling stress me out
Where's that Casio A100??
Yes, etiquette on the blackjack table is that if someone else is betting on your hand, that is now their hand, except for the bet that you made when it comes to splits that is. or if the player double downs for you you would split earnings.
Ads on clips is wild
Shane needs to chill. Jamie is known on the streets as "Pull up Jamie"💥💥💥
1:15 Shane became Seth Rogen for a split second
This is why, when you go into a gambling situation
You set the rules for what's what
Becuase some people warp what's etiquette and not etiquette to fit their agenda
Andrew looking like a Schindler's List antagonist!
If I didn’t bet my 7’s on blackjack and someone wanted to play that, they usually would be pretty nice when they won and give me something.
If you back someones bet you don't have to put equal amounts on, if it's an equal amount it's a 50/50 split, if it's 25% of the original bet, it's 25% of whatever is won. If he backed the bet 2x what the original bet is, then it's ambiguous and I assume that's what happened.
Perfect segway into a gambling ad you know
yeah wtf..he should have split it. If Shane got 75%, why would Jamie even bother "staking"?
Cause he would've ended up with 2 or 12 (which isn't ideal) instead of increasing his chances to get a 21. I think I'm not a pro.
If you back him thats what you did usually 30% an they take the risk half is high
In blackjack, when another player or bystander funds a split that you can't afford, the risk of loss is 100% on the bystander, w/ no additional risk to the player unless the two have discussed it as a loan. The bystander is doing the player a FAVOR b/c having to play on with two Aces is weaker odds than if you split them. I have never seen the player take the winnings of both his and the bystander's bet. The bystander is a good guy to fund the split. He's responsible for a loss but gets his winnings for his risk. The player insisting on keeping all winnings and just returning bystanders original bet back to him is nonsense.
If you put your money to bet you win what you bet. You don’t just give the guy that has no money everything lol
Ashad is hilarious man! And he sounds like bill burr
The correct thing to do is to pay the original stake plus half of the fronted profit.
Example:
Jamie: $10
Shane: $30 (10 by 3)
All regular win return:
Jaime: 10+25
Shane: 30+15
All loss return:
Jaime: 0-30
Shane: 30
It’s margin borrowing, and it’s the only correct way. The margin rate can be figured out on the fly. But, it’s usually half for gambling table games. You can take it down to 1/5th for sport booking. This is only amongst friends. When you’re talking a shy, that’s usually an automatic interest regardless of outcome.
You have to admit that it's a bit deranged to have this calculus "just for friends" especially if they're not also trained gamblers. You're hanging out together, it just happens to be a casino and the only reason the guy hasn't left the table when he's broke is because you've got more money and you're there together. He can either twiddle his thumbs on the bench and you can quit the game early and join him, or you can consider it a cover so he can go on playing the same game you are. If you're going to invoke house rules then you should just start billing for your time as an escort and not a buddy.
@danlowe spoken like a filthy casual. This is serious gambling
@@senseisteve3011 You only gamble on golf or pool or something you can actually control. Otherwise you're just playing dungeons and dragons but getting slightly more STDs
Have Shane Gillis on the show again NOW before he blows up and forgets about you guys 🥲
he's one of the biggest stand-up on the planet rn, what do you mean "before" he blows up? that happened 2 years ago
😂😅 Shane likely won't be on Flagrant ever again... (The Down Syndrome Jokes)😬🤦🏽♂️ czcams.com/video/kFWu0rbhozw/video.htmlsi=laVceU-VNUdZjNK9
@@cropduster123you don’t even know comedy
@@cropduster123yet you’re here watching videos he’s in. cringe.
Uhh I like Shane. You know Andrew has sold out arenas right like M.S.G.? I'm not even a fan and I know this. You think Shane is gonna sell out M.S.G. next year or even 2 years from now?
Throw that bud light out
Damn. Y’all put “beef” & 2 more popular comedian’s names in the title, and it still has less than 100 comments?
I know y’all’s channels having been falling off since April, but botting isn’t going to stop it. 😂😂
Why since April?
Naw if you back someone they usually give a prestige of the win
I was watching till I realized the Butt Light ✌🏻
Now i know why Jamie always wears a hat. His hairline is crazy.
well it was a safe bet thanks to jamie that was waiting for the Aces so he should have 70 %
Jamie’s lookin like ol Ari over ere
Why is he young Jamie he looks older than joe
It’s the hairline. He needs to shave it off.
He used to be young.
Video was funny until it was a gambling ad lmao
Yea who would sign up for that. Sounds like a scam where you’re 100% going to lose the $ you deposit. No one ever cashes out
Akash is so see-through
Watch out for Jamie he got an A in a physics class in college
Jamie is correct. If I stake my friend, I just expect my original bet back. And if he loses, he pays me back whatever I stake him. This is normal gambling etiquette. The only way I’d ask for a percentage of the winnings is if we agreed if the hand loses, he doesn’t pay me back and we are sharing the risk and are essentially partners in the hand.
Yeah i think degenerate gamblers shouldnt claim to have some code of etiquette.
Yup. Exactly how it works.
@Martin-kr1qn Absolutely there should be a code of etiquette when money is involved numbnuts.
yeah jamie is right as long as he pays shane the stake back regardless of win or loss. not sure what people are struggling with here i dont even gamble lol
@@charlie-horsebecause the gambler has nothing to lose and everything to gain . U act like it’s a federal secure loan . 😂
You have to pay the Vig!
I genuinely thought Jamie was Asian before seeing a pic of him... 😳😬🤣 His 'beef' with Gillis has Tony Soprano & Ralphie at the track vibes... 😂
Has anybody ever say back just realized the MASSIVE amount of comics that are now top of the game major celebrities JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE ROGANS FRIENDS…..and he kept bringing them on his podcast? Some comics have been so famous and successful that we kind of forget they were introduced to us MANY yrs ago by one ever growing podcast called The Joe Rogan Experience!
That’s why it’s great that rogan opened his own comedy club
You split the winnings
Not sure what is the accepted protocol, but i personaly would have split it.
The one that RISKS the money, gets the winnings, in the same way they would lose the loss.
No way! If you back bets you are doing that. If he loses he should have to pay u back. He wins it’s his money
If your stake horsing anyone you accept all the losses and for that you get and agreed upon percentage of the winnings anywhere from 50 to 80 percent. Now Shane was not stake horsing Jamie. He simply spotted him some cash so Jamie could maximize his betting opportunity that his luck brought him. Shane has no right to steal Jamie's hand of luck by claiming he had been stake horsing him because he hasn't taken any of the losses up to that point. He borrowed him money to finish the hand and should only be repaired the borrowed amount. Guaranteed if Jamie had lost Shane would have expected repayment.
Pull up my money, Jamie
Every Shane story I’ve ever heard: “he was being real, and I was just hammered.”
If someone lends you money, you owe that person the money leant plain and simple. Asking for interest or half of the possible winnings is shady af, and that person is not your friend, and that makes you their bitch.
What’s the dude in the end? Akash? You can tell these dude grew up a total cornball because anytime bro code comes up he has no idea how it works, gambling, girls, whatever, he has no idea how these things work.
If u lose pay me back if u win pay me half . If not play your own money .
Both millionaires doesn’t
matter how much money you have it’s all about the principle
Shane shot Jaime the same look Rogan gave him that one time when he interrupted.
Gillis beefing with everyone cool i swear
this is funny because jamie is worth WAY more than shane lol
"Alright, I was shitfaced"
andrew is bustin in his pants with the new views lmao
OR , don’t play with money you don’t have
Young Jamie catching strays ?!?
Should have gotten a % of the winnings, PERIOD!
If I pay for one hand then I expect my money back not the winnings but if I pay for FOUR hands on one play and ALL OF THEM win then I expect at least a tip lol
50/50 is fair
@@Onthebrink5 I agree
So, no beef then?
Shane definitely sucks Dylan Mulvaney’s Bud Light from his tap!
jaime was right. he is doing you a favor of his positive position. you could say no.
A horse gets back the initial bets plus a fee or a percentage. Jamie should know better.
25% is what he gets period. Pull that up
Jamie owes Shane half that money
Nah it's called borrowing the money right. So you pay back what you borrowed. Just because all those hands hit doesn't make it relevant who's money it was. If Jamie had his own money he would have put it down. So he's right on this
Maybe you are joking here. If so, then alright lol. Otherwise, that doesn't make any sense. Just like a bank never gives out a loan without getting SOME amount of interest back on it, what reason would any human being have to take a risk that Only the gambler would benefit from while the investor gets ABSOLUTELY NOTHING out of it?
@@MrBlakeleydenI don’t think he’s been to a casino, maybe this is a joke but if not I’ve always been told you split the winnings 50/50. Some people even give them their money back and then split 50/50 but I never expect this when backing up the homies haha
@@MrBlakeleydenIf I’m backing up my friend, I don’t want interest from him for a very short term loan. The benefit to me personally is to see my friend succeed in a situation where it’s advantageous to split or double. The only way I’d expect a piece of the winning is if the hand loses, we agree he doesn’t have to pay me back and we are sharing the risk, otherwise this is a very short term loan where I expect my original money back if he loses and if he wins, my friends prosperity is good enough for me. If we are sharing the risk than absolutely split the winnings.
@@KemperFi13but u are taking risk of not getting paid . If he was able to pay u back so easily then he should have money in the bank to play the bet
@@MrBlakeleyden Your friends aren't commodities and if you're measuring them that way then you shouldn't be friends but business partners. Most people leave the table when they're out. He was hanging out with friends who have so much more money than him they can say it's "not real." The only reason he's still at the table is because they're there together.
Taylor Lewan should chill, a kinda rich guy should never try to hang with a mega rich guy in a casino
I bet nobody can get under your skin like Shane 😂😂😂😂
Slingblade
Seems like there is too many people on this pod besides the guests, everyone talking over each other
Like these guys dont make enough money for 3400 bucks to even matter. Cmon
Jaimie didn’t have the money, got a loan and won. Interest rates are high.
Don't ever get into a partnership with Jamie. Shane took a risk to back him and was ready to lose his money. Shane should get his share of the winnings, not just get paid back his investment.
Shane was the AH
For the love of god, fix your haircut.
At least you could free cite your add placements instead of the lazy reading. I mean you try to sell us crap so put a little effort in it. That's how you spot the garbage people. When they sell you raid shadow loosers or Noob VPN and stuff then you know you have one of those in front of you.
Jaime is so annoying these days he has gotten so lazy on the show
The cool kids club