It still shocks me that this ending where he had a big family was just an alternate ending and his actual fate is losing everyone that is close to him except aisha
To be fair, this series fluctuates between alternate timelines and scenarios so much, that putting something down as a default conclusion is practically impossible. If we go by the absolute original timeline, where noone can read the future, or travel back in time, Rudeus wouldn't have existed, as his rebirth was also an act to change the future
But our rudeus never give up he made a plan to travel back his past and warn the current rudeus from that stupid man god plan. And the grandpa rudeus gave him diary that he can avoid from hitogami plan and to change his fate.
@@Ryomen334he did not travel to the past he traveled to different timeline not going back to the past. Because if he goes back to the past he's just going back in time to that same timeline. A better wording for what he did is travelling in different timeline
@@breadgt8484the other timeline was created with his time travel. Old rudeus never met a rudeus from the future, therefore hitogami won. By travelling back to warn his past self, rudeus allowed a different outcome and a different future timeline.
Sylphy's corpse alongside others being display in the city Infront of the castle stayed with me even after reading all of this years ago... That description is so vivid and so tragic... Damn...
Turning point 4 honestly made me feel awful, I remember reading it at school during lessons and a friend of mine had to ask me if i was feeling well cuz i looked like dogshit
The saddest and the most heartbroken part is when the original rudy (the old man) saw the spirit of sylphie and roxy before dying infront of our rudy. He praised them by telling them that they were always cute. He just wants more time to look at them before dying.
As you read on, you'd actually realize that the moment Rudeus existed, Hitogami was doomed. It didn't matter if he manipulated Rudeus and his family so as their descendants will not kill him; As long as Rudeus is alive, Hitogami will fall
@@helloboiz9257 ya there canon, there actually the titles for chapters that always result in events that completely change the stories trajectory, example being Turning Point 1 was the Mass Teleportation Event
Still to me Hitogami is yet to be the phenomenal genius just imagine he changed the fate of the world only by world to prevent his death although he never set a foot on this world for me that would be very genius 😮
@@traphoussashimiprobably honeypottting one of Rudeus’s children. An apostle of hitogmi can probably become the spouse of one of the Rudeus greyrat thus can have the ability to them to go against each other than say for instance, laplace being reincarnated into the Greyrat family(Sieg).
@@user-ts2wu6nd5myou should read the novel. I think the manga hasn't caught up to this moment yet. This is after several tragedies in the life of rudeus and some happy moments.
I hope they really take their time in the anime to show this turning point more then in the LN, this has the potential to become the greatest moment ever.
@@Mad_Scientist204in short, he lost every loved one in his life, but became one of the strongest in the world to avenge Hitogami for their death, however he didn't have enough time, so discover time travel magic, and leaped in time to the past himself
@@nixonkiven8558the context of this video is still havent animated this arc will like adapted in Season 4,without any spoilers hitogami is a selfish guy he does thing for hes own benefit,in summary hitogami is a chess player
Explanation: The ending where Rudeus is seen with this big family with Sylphy, Roxy and Eris along with their kids is an alternative the original Rudeus is the one you see as the old person This version of Rudeus lost almost all his family members to Hitogami this caused him to seek for revenge but time ran out he aged so he went back in time to his younger self (his alternative) with his list of “prophesies” and died
You know what's funny too? Old man Rudy possibly could have survived if in my opinion he did smaller jumps. Instead of doing one large jump back in time. I just think he was too far gone at that point. Man lost everything, and at that point just said fuck it, I don't care if I die, as long as I get this information to my younger self its all good. Didn't even get to see his wifes one last time before croaking neither
yes. the true fate of Rudesus is the old man because this is main timeline. And the successful life of him is just an imagination of him when he very close to dying
@@reocraftv2822 in other timeline the "real rudy" died before he was born. and at this timeline the first rudy comback to tell the second rudy "to do list". so we can conclude that the real rudy is the old man with a lot of scar...
You can thank Rudeus from the real story for the passage in time and the message left by him, because if not for that then the next seasons would be just like💀💀💀💀
@@beastflash1595 bro manga is not completed yet , I read the light novel on Google, you will find out if You search the light novel of mushuko tensei on Google for free
god dayum, I'm only following the anime and I don't really read the LN cuz I've been busy lately, but thanks to this dude, I can atleast be prepared for the heartbreaking scenes and such stuff that will happen that I have no idea about.
I really hope they animeted the turning point 4 which is the dark story of rudeus...maybe make into movie would be perfect as if they animeted it into TV is also great
I feel bad that terming point 4 was spoiled for me, I think it would have blindsided me like truck-kun never could. Tho i can’t wait to see it animated.
You know what i think might be cool. If they get to this point in the story and made a movie in the alternate timeline where rudeus looses everything and at the end they transition into another season where he travels back in time to meet the current rudeus.
It’s crazy that future rudeus literally had his whole life dismantled by hitogami, developed time travel just to go back and help his past self from not falling into hitogamis trap…. And present rudeus still went “ok hitogami only wants to destroy my family because orsted exists let’s kill orsted”
It makes me wonder how much the anime would censor some of it. Like Sylphie and others body hanging on the castle walls. No way they would actually show it right?
I wish he talked to his future self at the same time he does Paul. Let the man know how happy you are! He's the main reason you didn't end up with nothing!
Oldeus was from the TRUE timeline. What happened there was what was originally took place. Everything that happens after Rudeus meets Oldeus is an alternate timeline.
Se imaginan si el rudeus del futuro hubiera podido enviar su consciencia al pasado a su cuerpo más joven y no ir físicamente. Hubiera sido épico volver a su cuerpo joven con toda la experiencia que acumuló y en ese momento hubiera un rayo de luz como si estuviera evolucionando a algo más poderoso, hubiera sido menos triste y épico.
always expect the unexpected!!
Mors mutual agrees
Especially the spoilers
Memory reboot future rudue
Same lol that's my same thought
Where did you get this?
It still shocks me that this ending where he had a big family was just an alternate ending and his actual fate is losing everyone that is close to him except aisha
aisha dead as well by milis' church
Actually the original ending was always supposed to him and roxy actually giving birth to lara greyrat, it was hitogami's manipulation.
To be fair, this series fluctuates between alternate timelines and scenarios so much, that putting something down as a default conclusion is practically impossible. If we go by the absolute original timeline, where noone can read the future, or travel back in time, Rudeus wouldn't have existed, as his rebirth was also an act to change the future
The original ending is the happy one. Others were just timelines where hitogami succeed in manipulating the true fate.
And eris
But our rudeus never give up he made a plan to travel back his past and warn the current rudeus from that stupid man god plan. And the grandpa rudeus gave him diary that he can avoid from hitogami plan and to change his fate.
You read manga? Or smthing else?
@@jsagar3655 yeah I read manga and I finished read all light novel of mushoku tensei
@@Ryomen334he did not travel to the past he traveled to different timeline not going back to the past.
Because if he goes back to the past he's just going back in time to that same timeline.
A better wording for what he did is travelling in different timeline
@@breadgt8484the other timeline was created with his time travel. Old rudeus never met a rudeus from the future, therefore hitogami won. By travelling back to warn his past self, rudeus allowed a different outcome and a different future timeline.
@@belloceffo2486how did hitogami won? And what he got with that “won”
Sylphy's corpse alongside others being display in the city Infront of the castle stayed with me even after reading all of this years ago... That description is so vivid and so tragic... Damn...
What comes to my mind was Chelsea from Akame ga Kill and just imagining Sylphy in that situation makes my head hurt.
@@mosayyeed did you really have to remind me of my waifu's death? 😭😭😭
She was crucified alongside ariel
Meat flapping is crazy description 😢😢
The og timeline rudeus would be so happy if he got to see how this new timeline goes....poor dude
Turning point 4 honestly made me feel awful, I remember reading it at school during lessons and a friend of mine had to ask me if i was feeling well cuz i looked like dogshit
mf really become depressed by just a light novel 💀
@@andidaffa9606 shit happens man.go ahead and try to read berserk ;)
@@andidaffa9606you definitely not appreciate reading as much as him or me
@@andidaffa9606 what's wrong with that?
@@ello1001000nothing he’s just being rude if I’m sure most people that read that either felt bad or even cried and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Simply the best turning point no debate
yeah and was literally a turning point
And the Best plot twist too
i could argue the 1st turning point is even more important
Literally almost vomited when I read the WN for the first time
Is this the last turning point?
Now that i think about it him having Greyrat as his surname is kinda ironic ☠️
LEMAO
@@oreoicecream1829le mouse
The saddest and the most heartbroken part is when the original rudy (the old man) saw the spirit of sylphie and roxy before dying infront of our rudy. He praised them by telling them that they were always cute. He just wants more time to look at them before dying.
I think he actually saw them with his eye of foresight since they came running down the stairs like 30 seconds later
@@Jim-nm5kp damn never thought that way nice....
Man, you get me all depressed again.I couldn't sleep properly after reading turning 4
we're same😢
As you read on, you'd actually realize that the moment Rudeus existed, Hitogami was doomed. It didn't matter if he manipulated Rudeus and his family so as their descendants will not kill him; As long as Rudeus is alive, Hitogami will fall
With how popular the anime is, turning point 3 and 4 really will become iconic moments for all of Isekai
yeah, this series is a different from all isekai show.
@@PlanetO1945because its changing its genre after evey turning point
Are turning point canon? Or just like a special that will create another timeline for the story it’s like side story
@@helloboiz9257 ya there canon, there actually the titles for chapters that always result in events that completely change the stories trajectory, example being Turning Point 1 was the Mass Teleportation Event
@@HypnoManSweger oh and one more thing 3 rd turning points is already here ( i mean in this season )
Still to me Hitogami is yet to be the phenomenal genius just imagine he changed the fate of the world only by world to prevent his death although he never set a foot on this world for me that would be very genius 😮
yes, if there's a sequel then I am eager to see how he divides rudeus's children
@@traphoussashimiprobably honeypottting one of Rudeus’s children. An apostle of hitogmi can probably become the spouse of one of the Rudeus greyrat thus can have the ability to them to go against each other than say for instance, laplace being reincarnated into the Greyrat family(Sieg).
Yo bro can you tell me where to read manga and how many chapters are ther i just finifhsed watching anime
@@user-ts2wu6nd5myou should read the novel. I think the manga hasn't caught up to this moment yet. This is after several tragedies in the life of rudeus and some happy moments.
I hope they really take their time in the anime to show this turning point more then in the LN, this has the potential to become the greatest moment ever.
I actually cried after reading Rudeus's diary...
Can u spoil what's written in the letter.. It's okay even if it's not detail
@@Mad_Scientist204in short, he lost every loved one in his life, but became one of the strongest in the world to avenge Hitogami for their death, however he didn't have enough time, so discover time travel magic, and leaped in time to the past himself
@@Mad_Scientist204 Basically what the other guy said but it's delivered really well. I definitely recommend reading the novel if you haven't already.
Bro who didn't?
@@uomouniversale6109didn’t it also said that if he went back in time by little he would still be alive but if he went in one go he would died right?
Hitogami is still a clever guy...
How what happened I’m only still watching the anime I’m on season 2 ep 8
@@nixonkiven8558the context of this video is still havent animated this arc will like adapted in Season 4,without any spoilers hitogami is a selfish guy he does thing for hes own benefit,in summary hitogami is a chess player
Do you think we'll ever get to see this version of the timeline or do you think Rudeus will actually get a happy ending
thank god we're on the second timeline of rudeus, this anime will be depressed if it's the first one
Explanation:
The ending where Rudeus is seen with this big family with Sylphy, Roxy and Eris along with their kids is an alternative the original Rudeus is the one you see as the old person
This version of Rudeus lost almost all his family members to Hitogami this caused him to seek for revenge but time ran out he aged so he went back in time to his younger self (his alternative) with his list of “prophesies” and died
Please tell me this will have a happy ending.
@@ThePionnierThe alternative redeus had an good ending family. Dying Infront of his family in old age
Turning point 4 was such a wild ride. I loved every second of it, I felt like my stomach was upside down when reading oldeus diary
You know what's funny too? Old man Rudy possibly could have survived if in my opinion he did smaller jumps. Instead of doing one large jump back in time. I just think he was too far gone at that point.
Man lost everything, and at that point just said fuck it, I don't care if I die, as long as I get this information to my younger self its all good. Didn't even get to see his wifes one last time before croaking neither
At the end of the light novel I am at the part where Hitogami is at a loss of words as he was beaten by his own game
I was crying when I read. The true fate of Rudeus Grayrat
where to read it ma men?
@@jimueldaluyon7155 sevenseas, you can download the volumes. For some reason my first respond got deleted.
yes. the true fate of Rudesus is the old man because this is main timeline. And the successful life of him is just an imagination of him when he very close to dying
@@focusonhuy No? He time traveled back to tell currrent rudy about the events of his own life
@@reocraftv2822 in other timeline the "real rudy" died before he was born. and at this timeline the first rudy comback to tell the second rudy "to do list". so we can conclude that the real rudy is the old man with a lot of scar...
The unforgotten darkest history
Never underestimate a mouse 🐀
pa/ul got animated
Bro 💀💀
So did Zenith 😐
This manga has too be one of the most beautiful/yet disturbing ones I’ve ever read but in my opinion that’s what makes it great
You can thank Rudeus from the real story for the passage in time and the message left by him, because if not for that then the next seasons would be just like💀💀💀💀
story of original rudeus is the most heartbreaking I’ve ever read/seen/heard
Why
Because he Lost everything because of hitomi or the man god.@@phil_xd_ipp8232
Rudy tương lai very dark 😢😢 nhưng lại cứu được rudy hiện tại tác giả chơi quả hack time khiến hitogami khóc thét😂😂
Dảk
Man what a good show i hope there is a sequel
wym? we r in season 2 already
@@TonyKNG as in a LN sequel, not a prequel like ODT
Fun fact : This all story only prolog before main story released
I seen a couple people say that and if it's fr wtf is the author cooking with the best fuckin prequel ever it feels like a whole story in itself
Turning 4 will break the internet, if animated 🔥
@@beastflash1595 bro manga is not completed yet , I read the light novel on Google, you will find out if You search the light novel of mushuko tensei on Google for free
The fact that its the story that would blow up and not the animation
@@justsmae6566Very unlike demon slayer
People thought gear 5 would break internet but it didn't
@@justsmae6566the last time the internet broke was ages ago where goku turned super saiyan
By far the best turning point
Me reading the ending: 😊
Me reading the alternate ending💀
"yo jit don't do some bad stuff aight don't listen to that uhhh man god oh sumthin"
"uh alright thanks for the free happy ending bro"
That explains alot
i remember feeling super hyped up reading turning point 4 cause I enjoyed the twist so much
this is equivalent to eren finding the book his dad wrote
It'll probably be animated either next year, or 2 years or more from now
Cant wait for s3
Bro s2 still on going
@@ehe7443I'm pretty sure it's because s3 will most likely contain TP4.
dmn this old rudeus is giving me itachi vibes love it
Happy end for rudeus from another time line and bad end for rudeus 😞😞😞
Turning point 3 was enough of a heart break just I thought I won't get any sad . But man what a journey it was
Best part of series makes the rest of it so much more important and meaningful.
god dayum, I'm only following the anime and I don't really read the LN cuz I've been busy lately, but thanks to this dude, I can atleast be prepared for the heartbreaking scenes and such stuff that will happen that I have no idea about.
This is an alternate timeline, this won’t happen to the Rudy we know
@@sniffyjoe4229 Yep I know, I just commented this as a whole to thank zolcry
@@sniffyjoe4229so this dark scene will never gonna be in the anime right
@@jamesnotfound255 We may get some “flashbacks” of it, but I doubt it will be enough to cover all of alternate Rudeus journal
@@sniffyjoe4229 im saying will it happend to the rudeus we knew??
rudeus became subaru for one milisecond
Wtf it got sad ending???pls spoil me wtf happen😭😭
If u are asking whether rudy's story had a sad ending then I would have to say
Yesn't
I really hope they animeted the turning point 4 which is the dark story of rudeus...maybe make into movie would be perfect as if they animeted it into TV is also great
I feel bad that terming point 4 was spoiled for me, I think it would have blindsided me like truck-kun never could. Tho i can’t wait to see it animated.
I thought that human-god was not the villain😅
Can’t wait for this to be animated and absolutely demolish the internet
I can't wait till April for the anime to continue and I don't know when the next manga is released. Back to the light novels again!
Where do you even watch anime and where can I read manga?
I’m so happy when he team up with Orsted
the best isekai
Turning point 4 really like roller coaster from up to high and go straight to earth core
Just imagine they changed the direction in the anime and what we see right now is the life of old rudeus
The tip riding is crazy w you and mushoku tensei
You know what i think might be cool. If they get to this point in the story and made a movie in the alternate timeline where rudeus looses everything and at the end they transition into another season where he travels back in time to meet the current rudeus.
Wowwww its sooo good
rudeus looking hella godly with that stance, but turning point just make me feel sad.
God the manga is so fking behind
For real
I mean to be fair it takes a long time to make the manga
It’s crazy that future rudeus literally had his whole life dismantled by hitogami, developed time travel just to go back and help his past self from not falling into hitogamis trap…. And present rudeus still went “ok hitogami only wants to destroy my family because orsted exists let’s kill orsted”
I really do hope it'll show this in the anime 😅
Going to having no enemies to destroying anything he sees
Hitogami is the real enemy💀
Literally the "Calm before the storm"
It makes me wonder how much the anime would censor some of it.
Like Sylphie and others body hanging on the castle walls. No way they would actually show it right?
Turning point 4 proves that there is a parallel universe of Rudeus as an anomaly based from Orsted timeloop
Hitogami moment right here. Doing a little bit of trolling for ma boy Rudy.
It making me traumatic about that anime from the S3
i hope they animate both endings
The most wicked existence in Mushoku Tensei is ablolutely "The Hitogami" , I can intoduce you "The Hitogami" is Loki from anime universe
Rudy in og timeline: have a happy life with his wife😊
Rudy in alternative timeline:💀
The fact rudeus will never reach oldeus level of power is a good trade off for his happiness
That's the most brutal turning point I ever watched...or read in a story
Wanna break from the ads
💀
Where did you get the pictures of the dark timeline, please let me know😢
my heart sank
rudeus in alternatif universe😂😂😂❤❤ rudeus in real universe☠️☠️☠️☠️
So rudeus in alternatif universe will never be in the anime right
@@jamesnotfound255our rudeus is the alternative blud
Bro where are yall reading this, I’ve wanted to finish this forever but I can’t find a full version of the novel anywhere
Search mushoku tensai web novel
it will all be over if Rudeus's future doesn't come back to warn him
What if : The whole story is just a story of a man reading it to his son
Can't wait for when hitogami gets it
I wish he talked to his future self at the same time he does Paul. Let the man know how happy you are! He's the main reason you didn't end up with nothing!
I hope the turning point this time is still consistent
i love watching mushoku tesnei😅
That room...
Reading this hit so hard
"Youngself follow this diary and your fate will be the most of you" before i die
Wah Nice edit, i got horror in this Video.
As someone who doesn’t read the manga, I am terrified for what is to come
You should be(Also it’s a light novel not a manga).
Oh shit, and oh ok thank you
Il a gagné au loto
Passé de 0 à 3 femmes
Respect
Oldeus was from the TRUE timeline. What happened there was what was originally took place. Everything that happens after Rudeus meets Oldeus is an alternate timeline.
Bro really met yu zhong again
Se imaginan si el rudeus del futuro hubiera podido enviar su consciencia al pasado a su cuerpo más joven y no ir físicamente. Hubiera sido épico volver a su cuerpo joven con toda la experiencia que acumuló y en ese momento hubiera un rayo de luz como si estuviera evolucionando a algo más poderoso, hubiera sido menos triste y épico.
I mean we saw a dark rudeus and he broke the space time continuum to change it
so like, we're watching the 2nd timeline?
Thank you for spoiling ❤
so the rudeus we see in the show is of the 2nd timeline?
Yep
Rudeus from the future warns Rudeus from the present
Turning point 4 was shocking
Will this appear in anime i wonder