These Boom Box Hikers Need to Be STOPPED! [Viewer Comments 02]
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I treked on the weekday in the Western Ghats, India and I was so relieved that I didn't hear a single mp3 player and I loved it.
Absolutely! We go hiking to escape those things.
While hiking, I listen to podcasts through airpod pro earbuds using the "transparency" feature. This allows me to hear what's happening in my environment.
exactly. that is the right solution. you don't need to impose your noise on others in order to be able to hear what's going on around you
Safety cannot be an argument for a boom box over wearing headphones when you can simply just put in only 1 of your earbuds. Problem solved. Situation awareness AND respect for other people around you is thus guaranteed.
I was out on the AT in the US this summer. Guy coming the other way had headphones on but he was singing to himself. He was all embarrassed when he saw me - I was heading south on a section of trail where SOBOs were extremely rare that time of year - but I thought that was cool. But later on that trip some Boy Scouts coming the other way were in full boom-box mode. Really annoying IMHO.
This is why God made headphones. I keep one in and one out.
And aftershokz. You can hear everything around you with ease. And I used the Google Pixel buds in the GR.11 this summer for podcasts and music over hundreds of kms. I didn't have any meaningful issues, and if I was scared about heights or animals I just took them out for a bit. Those ones don't plug your ears, so at a low volume I could still hear stuff around me. It's not rocket appliances 😅 please don't blast your boombox within earshot of others!
God didn't make headphones, stop. People did.
@@fatboothby 🤣
If this is an issue? That's why they make Headphones! _if not? Then Respect Another's Quiet Hike Away From City Noise! Turn your Sh.. Down! 😶🖖🏞️Thank You Great Advice!
That is exactly what I was going to write ..... I don't even understand how this can be a discussion!
@@JeDindk Yeah, I was surprised by the comments on his other video by people who really thought it’s totally fine to blast their music out loud around other people on the trail
it is totally fine, you were not owed perfect silence in the wilderness that’s not something that you get just because you want it if someone needs to listen to music to motivate them to be outside hiking and enjoy nature I support that I’m not trying to control people so they do what I want them to do because I’m not selfish minded unlike a lot of the outdoor people I have met. they’re only cool with you if you’re just like them and like all the things they like it’s quite boring actually
I took a group on a rainforest hike up at O'Reillys, one of the guys took his bluetooth speaker out and was saying he's got the music covered. I said to him if he switches that thing on i'm gonna drop kick it off a cliff! And that was the end of the music issue.
I'm in the "get out there to enjoy nature" camp. I reckon if you're on your own and in a remote area, go for it. But when you're with a group or in an area where there's a few people, have a bit of consideration for others.
or you could show a little tolerance of other people that’s another thing you could do
@@jackpumkinhead9583 If I'm passing them going the opposite direction, all good. But we're going the same way? Stuff that! My tolerance has limits, and when I'm out hiking and wanting to ground myself in nature I don't want to hear someone else's music blasting through the air.
@@Spacegoat92 that’s too bad for you because a silent day in the woods isnt something your owed . sir you need to grow up , you have the mentality of a toddler
@@jackpumkinhead9583 Hahahaha. Sure thing mate, we'll meet up for a hike and i'll blast some of MY taste in music in your ear for a few hours and your tune will change. And i guarantee it will change!
It's not about whether i'm owed something or not. It's about why most of us go hiking, and that is to get away from human interaction and interference. To enjoy nature, something that is being restricted more and more, at least where i live. I don't want to go and drive hours to be made to listen to what i'm trying to avoid. It's got nothing to do with tolerance or being owed anything. You wanna hike to music? Go to the gym and walk on a treadmill!
Your attitude displays to me the height of selfish arrogance. You think it's perfectly fine for one person to play their music at a volume that possibly many people can hear whether they like it or not, and they can just put up with it. Please come down to Australia and try and sell that attitude on the trails here!
@@jackpumkinhead9583 Hi Jack. Hiking is a way for people to get into nature and experience the purity and quiet of that environment. If you want to change that environment with music, just change it for yourself and put a single bud in. I dont make others listen to my music (country music 😂). I'll stop at a nice spot, put my buds in and enjoy my special music, then buds out and keep walking.
I also think about reducing my disruption of animals whose home I'm hiking through
music has no place on the trail
Do the people who say headphones aren't safe not consider using just 1 earbud as an option so you can hear the outside world and music at the same time? Also, a lot of earbuds have a hear through option.
Using a speaker is like blocking anyone who tries to pass when they're hiking faster. You're deciding what is right for everyone around you. (I'm assuming the boomboxer is slower, because they always are.) Dick move.
Oh my god, yes!! The boom boxers are ALWAYS among the slowest. I am so glad that I'm not the only one who has noticed this.
if someone needs a speaker as a motivation to hike especially if they’re a slow hiker the kind thing to do would be to ignore their music tolerate it and encourage them but in the outdoor world just like in the regular world people are selfish and self centered there only pretending to be back to nature hippies
Headphones people!
You’d get the shit kicked out of you if you tried hiking with a boombox where I hike
PLEASE tell us where that is, so I can enjoy a more peaceful hike!
@@daven.7685 hahaha peaceful = shit kicked out of you?
@@higler. Yeah, Even I thought the irony was palpable with that one!
Thanks for these videos. Easy to learn from, easy to do. Free or reasonable options. Very much appreciate the straight talk about barefoot shoes and great tips about transitioning well to reduce injury and pain.
I've been rejecting standard shoes since I developed a Morton's neuroma and researched what it was and what might have caused it. Saw x-rays of my feet and realized that my forefeet were distorted due to being placed in AA shoes as a child and continuing as an adult due to my AAAA heels. Now, I can't wear AA's and some B's are to narrow as I straighten and spread my toes. No Morton's neuroma anymore and no drop shoes with rectangular toe boxes with lots of wiggle room when I wear shoes at all.
I did consult a foot specialist. First, a podiatry student entered to ask questions. She was wearing very pointed shoes with a 2-inch heels. I thought, "What you don't know about feet will keep you from helping your patients heal." Hopefully, the medical industry and the shoe industry will evolve sooner rather than later.
I needed to stop by and say thanks even though I haven't watched the video. Though I did relent and let my kids turn on some music during a particularly hard stretch of of a hike, but they knew to turn it off when we saw anyone.
You’re a good parent
So weird people have such strong reactions to the 'man' (gendered apparently) bun. In terms of boom box- totally agree- its selfish-just hike with one earphone in possible concerning areas. I wish people would stop referencing Sapiens (paleo dieters too!) - its a lazy justification. Their bodies were not the same, they had no other options, etc etc. You have plenty of other content that supports barefoot in a responsible way. For those that are not lean, I suspect cushioning can be helpful short term support while working toward healthy goals.
boombox dudes are hated by most folks, don't let the few boombox tolerant ppl change your view
Boom box tolerant hahahha
Best SHORT EVER! Ear buds on low work for me all the time.
Got it , I agree , out in nature you might want to think about your surroundings and impact on others ,wildlife etcc
Great video!
I've rarely encountered loud music on my hikes. Which is a blessing. I use a bell on my pack most of the time. When I'm in more popular areas I put a silencer on it. It still rings but softer. Besides it tells the other hikers that I'm approaching so they usually let me pass without having to ask them.
I use all trails for new trails. I hike solo most of the time so I find it an added safety. There is an instance where the trail was all scree with no markers so it was difficult to figure out the way. All trail kept me on my way.
I often backpack solo and that means if the trail is lightly traveled, whatever I listen to is broadcast, not loud. If there are people around, I will switch to ear buds, but if just passing, naw. I recall the look of horror and judgement for my seemingly inappropriate content on some hikers faces when I passed them listening to a civil war era book dialogue during a difficult scene. I just smiled. Priceless.
+1 for Lems. I love the primal 2s. They make me excited to wear shoes again like when I was kid. Obviously I still try to go barefoot as much as possible but when I have to wear shoes it feels good. They inspire me to be active and cognizant of my foot movement. I've worn vivos and random barefoot models from Amazon and just felt they were ugly or didn't fit my style or didn't make me feel confident in my movement if that makes sense. But my lems handle all that
Boomboxes shouldn't be allowed in hikes for the same reason that they shouldn't be allowed in public transit, or hospitals, or ... etc. Every place has its own charm, its own utility, its own "energy" (if I may say so). It's not about "people can't enjoy things differently". It's about when one person is imposing their way of enjoyment on others, and in fact, using their way of enjoying to disrupt and destroy the way others enjoy it. This is ESPECIALLY true for high altitude mountain hikes. In many (most?) regions in the world, these hikes are actually regarded as highly spiritual pilgrimages. If someone is traveling there as a boombox hiker, it's the same as blasting hip hop in the middle of any other spiritual place of worship. I experienced this (thankfully, only once) in India in 2018, while traveling to a place called Shrikhand Mahadev. The locals HATE such visitors (I know because they did not hold back their feelings as soon as the boomboxers were out or range).
I mean ... how appealing or spiritually fulfilling do you think it would be for a person going to a Tibetan monastery 14,000 feet above sea level, if they are accompanied by AC/DC? And forget about any wildlife photography. Those ibex are now at least 5 miles away!!
Nice Video! One thing about china: Sadly it's mostly not the craftsmanship, nor some other cultural aspect that lets almost every company produce there. It's because workers can be treated inhumanly, giving them an insanely low wages and ignoring workers rights as well as any environmental protections. This is the only way companies can compete with the general fast fashion industry and the totally unrealistic price expectations that we consumers have developed over the decades. So if you have the means, you should invest in something locally produced, even though these products are much more expensive (and have a better quality).
Sounds a lot like America, no lie.
I agree totally. Sadly alot of us Australians have just swallowed everything being made off shore now. Very few local manufacturers anymore, but I can still find them. Piricey tho but worth it for quality and supporting local industry and Jobs.
Bone conduction headphones - Listening to music while hearing your surroundings without a boom box.
Agree with the comment about barefoot exercise… when I started running in my fancy Nike running shoes, I was a serious heel striker. Loved the spongy feel, but my knees sure didn’t. I spent some training in the park running barefoot and learned how to run off of my forefoot, eliminating the pain in my knees. Put the shoes back on and with this new technique never suffered the problem again.
Ive been showing people the boom box short for days lol... the wtf moment has me rollin. Jivin with the poles🤣
I went on an unmarked trail this summer and wasn't able to procure extremely detailed maps of the area, but my offline Gaia GPS satellite+elevation maps with the GPS track were absolutely perfect for navigating. I could hardly imagine trying to use a map and compass with how many course corrections I had to make on such uneven terrain. I think map and compass is great for exploring new territory, but not great for following someone else's route. Taking bearings and trying to walk a straight line to the next spot is not very useful in some environments.
we hike LONG distances to get away from that ... and DRONES!!!!!
Love your channel!!! I’m so happy I found it about a year ago!
Aftershockz make great bone conduction headphones so you can still hear around you while you hike and listen to music privately
Lot’s of people seem to miss the point of why you shouldn’t hike with loud speakers. It has nothing to do with ruining other peoples experiences in the outdoors.
The main point is to not disturb wildlife.
I'm deeply called out as a Boombox Runner. Using headphones while running in America is typically a death-wish if you're a city runner like me. If the noise of the cars isn't drowning out my music for everyone else then I speed up to pass them. But on a hike I just use bells or keys to jingle instead. It's less about the volume and more about making noise in general and bells carry really well. I didn't used to hike with bells until I lived in Alaska and really learned how dangerous trails can be. Bears, Moose, and Alaskans- hazards encountered on the trails lol.
Wow this is an incredible idea. We have a lot od boars around and a cow bell or something like that can warn them in advance.
Look into bone conduction headphones (e.g. Shokz).
@@burnttoast9765 I think the goal here is to actually MAKE a noise on the trail, so that animals can avoid you. At least for me.
Great topics. There’s no way I could hike with giardia so yeah, water filters always. Also as a parent hiking with kids, running out of water is extremely not cool so having a filter is a form of redundancy here in NZ (lots of water sources). Offline maps also really good, and knowing where water sources are so we can carry less and enjoy it more!
Interesting topics and great watch thanks Chase 🙌🇬🇧
Great video. Thanks. 👍
I really enjoyed this video as you're quite funny. I'm training to do the Laguna de los Tres hike in El Chalten, Patagonia. It's 21km round trip and your videos have been very helpful. Too bad my training is on flat pavement at sea level here in Cozumel, Mexico but I'm up to 11km 3x a week with hiking poles so I think it's better than nothing.
Great video!
Funny while keeping it real!
I knocked out Mount Fuji in August earlier this year and someone thought it’d be a good idea to play a speaker out loud on the trail. That guy got a whole lot more attention than he probably wanted for it.
Absolutely keeping it real 👌🤙👣
Playing loud music in a public place when others are present is a form of narcissism. There is a time and a place for music in the outdoors though- I use a small hi-fidelity speaker in camp (minirig mini) when I'm wild camping in New Zealand. Always alone and far from other people, and usually chilled ambient music at a low enough volume not to drown out the nature sounds- I find it very relaxing and comforting.
I don't know man. It's a difficult one and sometimes I think we all just need to get along. But here's my own view. The great outdoors is for everyone. Its not any one persons personal space, and that's what causes the conflict. But surely, if its something that isn't yours alone shouldn't you preserve it and not pollute it for other people by playing loud music? If you want to listen to your music use headphones.... seriously. Not everyone in the vicinity likes your kind of music necessarily, and your removing their right not to hear it by using a boom box. So please... use headphones.... and if your worried about safety because your in an earthquake zone. Then maybe don't listen to music, and just listen to what's important.... like whats going on around you?
I agree with that, and it’s something I thought about after watching his earlier video. The outdoors is for all of us.
Don’t be disrespectful to the other people outdoors near you.
your whole point is predicated on that you have a right to not hear anybody’s music, you don’t , that’s not a right you have , and your expectation of that is rooted in white supremacy and a colonizer mindset. you could alternatively just practice tolerance(not that that’s something white people are known for, maybe you should work on it)
@@jackpumkinhead9583 Are you a troll? You sound like a troll. What is it you hate the most I wonder? That I'm exercising my freedom of speech? That I have an opinion? Or that I'm white? Forcing other people to listen to your music by playing it too loud is a breach of the peace. There are laws that protect it. So maybe you should do some research before talking garbage?
Great channel! Thanks for all the info and the tips... I just wanted to ask a stupid question. Sometimes I struggle to find maps (paper maps) of the areas i want to hike. I also live in Spain so i wonder, do you know any reliable website where i can buy them from? Thanks in advance.
Mapping apps are more than just beginner kit!
I just traveled to the Canadian Rockies. It proved very difficult to purchase useful maps for my travels. They ranged for hundreds of kilometers and in the sections of park that didn’t actually wave good maps published. Even the maps from the local shops proved to be worse for planned routes. Each party had a phone, we all downloaded the needed maps, had an external battery pack, and a spare phone.
Baring the purchase of a large screen GPS with downloads maps, there would have been no practice alternatives to using our phones.
Beyond that, with cross platform integration like that of Gaia GPS it has never been easier to make and share routes, waypoints, and courses.
All Trails app on my phone kept me out of trouble a couple of times during hikes in 2022. Pointed me back to the trail. All good.
2021 I bought some barefoot sandles with 9-10mm sole and straps over the foot,cycled mostly in them with walks of just around 1-2 miles that year! Felt uncomfortable but I slowly learned to walk with more care and thought.
2022 I bought some running vibram thong sandles with 5mm thick sole,again using for cycling and now can walk 3-4 miles comfortably,so it took me a while .....baby steps 🤗
I bought 6 pair of darn tough
Short socks, hiking socks and boot socks a year and half ago...2 each...
I have enjoy each pair summer tennis socks, hiking socks helped me do 70 miles on AT in GA w/o one blister and boot socks for winter farm work...no holes yet in socks or feet...
Man Bunn personal choice,
Music a personal choice, disturbing others personal choice...
Enjoying the 5 min exercise...
Interesting to feel the body reaction to it❣️
Disturbing others is making a choice for them, the opposite of "a personal choice"!
Blasting music from speakers is going to effect not only on other people but wildlife too. Most hikers I know are conscious of the 'leave no trace' mentality when it comes to trash etc. but noise is another form of pollution. It can affect movement patterns of wildlife and cause disturbance, especially on very popular/busy trails. I'm not saying people shouldn't listen to music, just be conscientious when choosing how to listen and at what volume. An obvious exception is using music/noise to warn off bears or other dangerous wildlife - but otherwise, just be respectful of other hikers and the local wildlife.
I hate hearing this noise pollution argument as someone who has for their job had to deal with what constitutes noise pollution any little speaker that you bring out hiking does not reach the decimal level to constitute “noise pollution “when you use that it makes you look real dumb you really don’t know what you’re talking about
@@jackpumkinhead9583 A single piece of trash on the trail is still considered pollution, even though it isn't as severe as an entire bag of trash because it still has potential to cause harm. People blasting loud music on the trail is not going to cause high-level noise pollution like in urban areas, but it is going to have a cumulative effect on local wildlife - especially on busy trails - and the louder the music the larger the area in which that disturbance has an impact. Like I said, i'm not trying to tell people not to listen to music. Just asking people to be considerate with their volume or how they listen with regards to wildlife and other people. Thankfully I think the vast majority of hikers already have that considerate mindset.
I appreciate your humor.
They make headphones that have a pass through or “awareness mode”, just got some actually.…sooo, no excuses that you can’t hear what’s around you for safety
that was fun!
I saw Jeff Hannamen in the thumbnail.. soooo SLAYERRRRRR!!!!!!!
I just love your videos!
The only time I've encountered this with hikers in the mountains, it was college students (Kansas State). And it was John Denver's Rocky Mountain High.
I always have songs on my phone that I can pull out if I need a quick bit of motivation, but I generally enjoy the silence up there.
I had 1 earbud in on summit night up Kilimanjaro, but my volume was too low and the wind too loud for me to hear anything. lol.
Loved this video!
I'm so glad air conduction (non earbud earphones) and bone conduction earphones exist lmao
Kraig Adams Film LOL
I dig your videos about hiker health
If you guys are worried about earphones reducing your hearing I highly recommend Sony Linkbuds. As for loud music I am personally bothered by abnoxiously loud sounds, especially in nature. If it's just a passer-by and it's not too loud I can get over it but the last thing I want on the top of a mountain is someone screaming heavy metal in my ears
No tunes on trail. Earbuds exist for a reason. :)
Brilliant, damn funny and personally I love the boomer tag
$20 x 52 = $1040
Lol your content is funny, interesting, helpful and keeping it real. I started with your barefoot review and have gone through many now. Thanks heaps and hi from Tassie 🤸🏼♀️🕊🤸🏼♂️
Zero drop shoes has really helped my sciatica and knee pain! Been using xero shoes
More music recommendations, an Aussie who’d never heard of Ocean Grove 🤘🏻
i hiked mt washington this summer, a group of 20 or so people with multiple radios blasting playing different songs. ridiculous
I'd never use a boombox (or even earbuds, ore the like) when hiking. I like the "rythm" a song can give to your steps though, so what I do is.....sing !
Some marching songs in isiZulu (or "Shosholoza") are good options for me ^^".
Drinking from creeks can be very dangerous especially if you don't know what is upstream
the john cena meme killed me haha
So what you're saying is, do your thing....but don't be a boomer with a boom box, or wear high heels when you climb rocks...and finally...wear socks (but not over your ears!)
Did I get that right?
Thanks for the great video.
If you want to drink the tastiest and cleanest water around.
Visit the northern mountain regions of Sweden.
As long as an animal or human has not taken a dump upstream and the water is flowing it is safe to drink and delicious!
Its a shame for these view comments videos that you cut your hair. Not going to get anymore man bun comments haha. Your good attitude towards haters is refreshing and enjoyed this vid. Been living the app and momentum too. Its a nice change from harder workouts as I try to up my running mileage and I can see myself implementing it periodically.
Man bun wearer here. Just want to point out that the toughest dudes in history wore man buns. I’d rather look like a samurai than a boomer.
yeah take that, haters!
Thought this was hilarious. Also have a sudden urge to have a beer... Is Estrella Galicia also sponsorship....?
Haha no, no beer sponsor deals for me
Wow I can't believe you were on Ama Dablam during the Earthquake! Lucky to be alive indeed
The subtext here is what we might call cultural dissonance, and it can be socio-economic, rural/urban, etc. And if you're gonna broach the topic you should lean into it beyond a "short.". If you have and I've missed the video my apologies. Where I am from in Latin America, people take a "paseo de olla" which translates to "trip with a cooking pot" basically. It is an escape to the river or lake or mountain for the laboring classes. It is a family affair. And the cookware, the lawn chairs, the MUSIC come with. Maybe that sparks interest in trail running in children who otherwise wouldn't be exposed. So how do we educate people on trail etiquette and appear welcoming and not like a trail snob with a "keep out" sign?
The boom box guy is obviously trying to be annoying; otherwise he'd be using headphones.
Boomer here, when I started hiking 30 years ago I always carried a map. However, if you don't know where you are on the map it's useless. Took several map and compass courses, guess I'm just dumb. Having a map on my phone is THE BEST TECH EVER!
couldn't agree more man
Funny short..icdently when I saw one of videos for the first time I thought you bore a strong resemblance to Serj Tankian singer from System of a down
I'm 53, my parents are the baby boomer generation. I am a firm Gen X. Unless you are talking about hikers in their late 70's- 80's. By all means load up on GenX, but Most Boomers are literally dying off.
There are websites you can go on that show many products not made in China 👍🏻
Here is the easy answer: You have the right to enjoy the trail your way UNTIL your way infringes on the rights of others enjoying the trail.
I love your comment and your logic. 😀👍
Yes that's exactly how I feel and was going to comment something similar!
It’s not only about others, is about not disrupting the wildlife also
Why don’t you have an Amazon store front?
What family are you talking about that were found dead!? The one in California last summer? Foothills of the Sierra- Dad Mom baby and dog?
They weren’t found away from the trail, they were on the trail. But they’d all mysteriously died at different places on trail, including the dog. The sheriff and coroner eventually said they’d died of dehydration. But even still it was super weird and mysterious.
But maybe you’re talking about another family…
6:06 SmartFeet (Trademark Pending) with Machine Learning😎
Might rebrand to SmartFeat but the meaning might be too deep for some to follow :D
People who cut through on social trails are also annoying
it happened to me in a subway stop, and the guy got angry and trying to start a fight. Those people should be fined by law. In nature must be even harder methods
Never bring a boombox.
I was hiking a beautiful trail, finished, sat at the top to enjoy the view and all of a sudden a group of 5 people sat next to me with the LOUDEST music ever. Completely ruined the peace and quiet and was super distracting. Not everyone wants to listen to what you like. And a lot of people hike to escape the noise.
yeah thats going to be a mood killer for sure
Great video Chase, but please don’t encourage people to walk too far from there cars😢
A lot of my knee and tendon problems have disappeared or become seasonal since I went to zero drop shoes. I just bought the Lem’s Summit boots because I needed a waterproof shoe that could go from town to trail while looking pretty good. These don’t scream tourist, and they are surprisingly comfortable out of the box.
What are your thoughts on Altra’s
great but wear out too quickly. I've covered it in several videos including this one czcams.com/video/sSBohLoZHrU/video.html
the argument is not about disturbing other human beings, but the wildlife and inhabitants there. we are guests in nature and should behave respectfully.
the skit was funny, who doesn't get it?
So many "offline" maps, aren't.
I don't understand.
You gotta download the maps tho bro
Like maybe I'll slightly respect boombox hikers if they're putting down songs similar to Rylynn
Just like soft, somber acoustic guitar stuff that you could definitely make a nature flyby video with
Navigation apps: love them - until my phone crashes, which happened on a recent hike. It spooked me enough to learn map and compass navigation, which, it turns out, is really interesting to me! Lesson learned: use both and sharpen your mind!…Music on the trail: for me, if I ever feel I need the distraction of music on the trail, then it’s time to find a more interesting trail!
I did my first thru hike this summer, and I was surprised at how much I needed to listen to tunes and podcasts during it. Had a great time though, didn't need my ears 24/7 to see all the beauty around me ☺️
@@JakeLipohar Congratulations on your first through hike, Jake! Admittedly, I have not experienced the long periods of isolation (and boredom?) that can be experienced on a long thru hike, and I am beginning to understand the value of the private aural diversion. Thanks!
It's like motorcyclists with their speakers blasting on a ride and you're the one stuck next to them at the stoplight. It's rude. Use earbuds. Or if you don't feel safe, don't use anything. But don't make people listen to your boombox while enjoying the silence and peace of a hike.
Smartwool make the best socks in my experience. I tried Darn Tough but for some mad reason they are the only socks I've come across that don't fit my feet.
Headphones are more than adequate. Blasting a boombox is disrespectful to other hikers.