I bought a WRX over the STI only reason why is because I’m a new Enthusiast. I wanted to learn how to build up to that power myself and learn one step at a time. STI is definitely better. But if you gonna learn start at the bottom.
I agree with you as well. I recently bought my first subie this year (2011 wrx) and slowly wanted to not only getting back to driving a manual, but learn more about subies in general. Plus, if you're eventually going to change out parts and make it your own, kinda makes it obsolete to pay for stock oem sti prices when you can get to the same results, if not better in the end. Idk, just my way of thinking about it. Either way, like most us have said, you can't go wrong with either trim. If you have the money for either, then it's all just up to you what route you want to take.
I’m not sure about this, the STI is a special car but I don’t think it requires a certain experience level. Now if someone was debating over a R/T or hellcat then I would say that would have an experience gap and someone who isn’t ready could get into some trouble
Build up to the power? The Wrx is literally faster on the streets stock for stock. There is a 30-40 hp difference which translates to better passing power on the freeway.
For $8,000 difference 100% the sti is worth it. 6 Speed, R180, Brembos, DCCD, SI Drive etc. Easy to sum up, if you want to build a subaru for more than 450WHP get the STI. The FA20 is great but not for decent or higher power. The DI system runs out north of 450 and you'd be looking at adding a standalone port injection system. If its a daily/weekend car, the fa20 is for better for fuel economy and low end power. But I'd take the EJ all day
I daily a 2020 wrx and two rear struts costs $1500 couldn’t imagine the cost of an sti’s parts. Some people don’t realize that it is a very very expensive car to properly maintain and the Sri parts are about 1.5 to 3 times more expensive
@@Eyeluvvyouyes, the transmission is the biggest difference. The 6 speed is a beast but if you shift a little wrong too many times the 5 speed on wrx will break 😊
@@Smitaye- money wasn't an issue for me and picked the wrx. If I'm going to buy a better more expensive car with better performance I will get a Nissan z or mustang gt.
@@Smitaye- Nah not if you're picking from the VA chassis, do your research, AND your use case lines up a certain way. For example building for daily driving and rallycross? WRX is absolutely a better pick for almost every reason. Money wasn't an issue for me and I went with the WRX for that reason- had $5k in mods at my door before I even had my car.
I considered the same things when I chose the WRX 2 years ago. While I am not opposed to a street racer, what I ultimately wanted was just a car that will get me where I am going...and I was going to rural sketchy backroads. In other words, I didn't want to race anyone - I wanted to confidently travel no matter the weather or conditions. And I do not regret it. My WRX is made for me - like if you can have a car soul mate...this is it. I will drive this car until they take my geriatric license one day.
Honestly, I bought my STi for the robust drive train, hydraulic steering and archaic feel. If the engine goes, I have funds ready for new built block. But I'll never really worry about changing the other parts if I keep it within certain limit of oomph. Resale value has always been great for the STi and it's only going to be better now that Subie decides to axe the car.
@@Eyeluvvyou on paper no but its honeslty a coin toss depending who you ask. If taken care of properly and not pushed beyond its limit the EJ is still a great motor
I bought a 2004 WRX some 20 years ago. Over time i tuned it , put coilovers in it , drove it and took it to the track . It was fine, but i was scared for the transmission so i installed a full Sti transmission and steering rack. The motor is completed stock 2 liter with 328 HP and 44 kgr of torque since 2008. When it got the STi tranny and steering rack it went on a different level in driving. Different style in cornering , sharper steering response and more absolute requiring your engagement. Its a drivers car but the WRX is fine but Sti is the way to go. I do miss the 5 speed transmission in longer journeys but i couldnt stand the understeer and trying to find a slippery road to do an all wheel drift. When i installed the tranny i dont know how many 0-60 i did to make up for lost time. Suming up if you want a decent performer with daily capabilities then you go for the WRX. If you go on track days or you love cornering and joyful spirited driving you go with an Sti. I would not tune either of them stock more than 340 HP crank because they completely loose their character.
The final conclusion was exactly how I was feeling, does the price gap justify the performance difference. It’s the same with the e36 m3 vs 325i, as an investment for future sale? Sure but for the enthusiast driver, you’re better off with the lower model and spending the difference or less to have the better car. Great video, you have my vote for the nerdy stuff
Where I live in Michigan, with the awful lake effect snow, I went with the STI, due to the DCCD AWD system, as it's far superior to any other type of AWD in snow and ice . That transmission combined with the center differential was more than worth the extra money. Also the Subi rumble is so satisfying. 2020 engines are really problem free, unless you get stupid modifying them.
Respectfully disagree, having the ability to go FULL "Lock", is much better when the snow gets over 3". The center differentials ability to lock everything in 4wd can't be understated. Also I've been in my Brothers GTR in slippery conditions and it's not as good AWD in snowing / icy conditions.
@Samuel Dubb if I didn't live in this freezing Winter HELL.... that is Michigan, I'd totally agree with your opinion. Curving up the canyon roads, the DCCD is great, but probably not the best. But when you're in 6" of snow trying to get home from work at 1am, going up snow covered hills, with allot of ice under the snow. Well that's where having the center differential and the ability to manually lock in all 4 wheels.... That's really where this system excels. I only wish more vehicles had this option. I honestly don't think many people know, or understand the superiority and uniqueness of this amazing transmission option.
I live in flat ass Florida, so all cars handle the same lmao. I miss messing with snow and curves. However I own both evo and sti, the STi awd is squirly and kinda all over the place, but I like that. The evo is way more planted and reserved, easier to control. But the evo can’t do donuts :(
I’ve been a fan of these cars since I was a kid. When I finally decided that I wanted a Hawkeye I was shocked to see the prices of the STI models. That’s actually when I decided to go with a WRX model instead. The search was interesting for sure and I stumbled upon STI swapped Wrxs. I really had to do my homework on them to understand what I was getting into. I was able to come across a unfinished 2006 wrx that had an EJ257 and a 6 speed transmission from an 05 STI, that was sitting at a nice price. It’s definitely been an adventure with this car so far but I probably wouldn’t have done anything different honestly. Everything that I personally was looking for I found in this WRX.
As an STI owner, I can safely say that the WRX is an overall better design. Fuel injected, over port injected is a big deal, and for the price of a WRX + a ton of mods- you can far exceed the power of a stock STI for less cost. Also, gas mileage is awful on an STI, which really bites in these times. The only reason I own an STI over a WRX is because I have specific wants from a car that can only be achieved by an STI, and it isn't my daily driver.
@@illyack5593 idk if I can’t agree with that it’s like comparing the type R and si and saying a new si is better than a type r but we all have our preferences
I would say no, in my area they're was a good 10k difference between the two. The sti's where around 43k, and for 43k I would look into something else.
If the price isn’t an issue AND you have a good idea at what your getting yourself into then yes you should absolutely try to get your hands on a STOCK STI
As a 06 wrx owner the answer is yes. If your goal is to squeeze as much power out as possible, the sti is the way to go. The Sti cost 10k more for a reason. It has the better transmission, differential, brakes etc etc. The only reason you should get a wrx is if your goal is to stay stock or mostly stock power wise. The only reason I bought a wrx is because I prefer the wagons body over the sedan but I know I'm gonna have to swap that trans eventually.
My thoughts are if you want to make power, get the sti purely for the transmission. If you’re gonna daily it and do some small power mods and suspension/aesthetics then get the wrx
The Sti appreciate better so long as the miles are low. That said the wrx is the base of the sti. Only one is tuned by the factory. Everyone throws Colin's name around like he needed the Sti. He would have been a champion on any competitive team. Also the rules were much different back then, i doubt even the bolts were OEM.
The difference between the EJ and the FA in gas mileage is drastic. As a daily, I chose the WRX and spent my money on other modifications. I do love the sound of unequal length headers and that distinctive STI rumble… but it’s one of those sacrifices you make.
Had my 05sti for nearly 15years, while its been a great car and ive had a ton of fun, its way more car than id ever need, its such a better car than i am a driver. It was my first subi and i should have started a little lower and worked up, a 2.5rs would be a better fit now that i look back
@@lucian7182 not an excuse. 22mpg at max is horrible. You get better mileage in a mustang gt or charger scatpack which outperform the sti heavily. Just not efficient as a daily driver.
@@juicytoons1864 if you are going off the gage that reads then those aren't very accurate at all. The wrx definitely doesn't reach 35mpg even if you do all highway.
Good point. I went from a 2017 WRX to a 2019 STI and the difference in gas milage is significant. I went from 24 MPG in the WRX to 19 in the STI. That's a big penalty considering the STI really isn't that much faster in a straight line
Nice video but you said the biggest difference is the power, but you're wrong there, the handling and track capabilities is the biggest difference, WRX uses only front open diff and rear open diff with electronic brakepad vectoring. STI handles so good because it has front LSD, center active DCCD difd, and rear LSD.
Picked up a STI Type RA last year. Actually , there are huge differences between these two. The TY-85 comes from STI transmission is much more aggressive comparing to the TY-75 comes from WRX. The TY-75 also got the silly rev hang function. Also, the steering feeling of WRX is like a normal passenger car since it use EPS on the VA gen. And the main reason that I would prefer STI over WRX any time is that DCCD only comes with STI. It is the soul of a Subaru.
i got a 2018 STi , i love the rumble , i think thats why i bought , just to have the rumble without the mods , but over all they are both cool and amazing cars
The end basically sums it up. If you're going to do hpde track the car for you've whatever the sti is the way to go, if you're looking for something to cruise with or super slam or stance it out go for a wrx. I have a 21 sti and seeing other stis with -10 camber dropped beyond reasonable purpose hurts. But in the end it's your car do whatever u want...
I have owned a 2017 WRX and I now own a 2020 STI and I love both cars. The STI is the better car in my opinion. My Bluebaru is my daily driver to work up in Irvine CA. I live in Oceanside Ca, it's a 50 mile drive up and back. Totally worth it. Subies forever.
Went wrx over sti. Thought I made a mistake but the wrx is the better daily driver. Also the fa wrx makes power more easily being direct injection so bolt on and tunes yields better numbers over the sti. Big hp build the sti is the better option as the platform is more well known. It comes down to what you plan to do but as a daily driver I think the wrx is the better route.
I owned a 2018 WRX for 2 years before getting my 2020 Series White STI. The WRX was great. The FA20 was delightful, the MPG was reasonable and I had a blast - it was a great car that I would recommend to anyone that wants to have fun. I'll spare you a long story and just say that I think they are different cars. Not kinda different but really different. Locking diffs change cornering dynamics a metric butt ton.
I would say STI are good if you are going to track the car but if you just want to Daily drive it, not worth it. WRX is much better car for daily drive, Do Cobb Stage 1 and you will be faster then a Stock STI.
Went WRX because it’s easier to find and since I plan to daily and upgrade slowly over time it’s no big deal to me. It’s the same difference to me as a Nismo being a Nissan guy. It’s really up to you if you can justify the several grand more for a good used STI versus a clean 1 owner WRX .
I wanted a WRX for many years. Initially, I thought WRX was cheaper and not much different to the STI. When I was ready to buy Subaru just discontinued the STI. The more I looked into the STI the more I wanted one. I have heard many reviewers saying the WRX is a better daily driver/family car and the STI is less fuel efficient, and less comfortable to ride. Eventually, I got a 2020 Spec R model with low KM's. The price was inflated then and cost more than the new car price. The car was even more than the new WRX top spec. But I still went for it. I thought it was loud, uncomfortable, and hard to drive (change gear) when I tested it. I was afraid I was going to regret it. I drive the car daily, the more time I spend driving it the more I feel inseparable from it. Now I am thinking I would never sell the car. Everything they did to the STI makes sense to me now. It's simply the best car Subaru ever made (except for the limited number or special ones).
I bought a 2015 wrx used with 33k on the odometer and it’s been a blast. I daily drive it and I think either way the fuel economy is bad on these cars. With that said it’s a great car for every season and it can look great with very few cosmetic mods. I slapped a STI wing on mine just because I like the way the wing puts the car together. My only gripe I had with my car was the gear play that it comes with. That can easily be fixed with a shift stop and it takes like two minutes to install. After owning it for 3 years I wouldn’t change my mind on purchasing it. Also the stock wheels on the WRX are pretty ugly.
Wrx= daily Sti= track I respect anyone who will just buy an sti. Its an amazing car, but its a car meant to be track driven and if you arnt doing that then your not really using the cars full potential, thus kinda wasting your money imo. A wrx stage 2 is a phenomenal daily.
I had the chance to order new from factor either a 21 WRX or STI a year and a half a go, and went for the more practical choice in the WRX since it will be a daily driver once my old car dies. Part of me regrets not getting the STI now that they are on hiatus, but the WRX is still plenty fun, and I only got 3.6k miles and I've had it for 8 months. I'm new to the car scene, always loved cars never saw myself owning a cool JDM turbo charged car, and the car is plenty fun for me and I look forward to working on it in the future as my first project car.
IMO, you can go with an STI and keep it stock and enjoy it. If you want to do crazy mods and transform it to your liking, go with WRX. (Obviously you can mod the STI too, but really it's a great car out of the box)
I’d have to say it’s quite the opposite, people 21-30 buy these cars and beat the piss out of them. If you buy used you are going to want to REALLY look over the history of the car, along with purchasing an AOS and a few other bolt ons that improve reliability.
sti is worth if just for the transmission. the wrx transmission is weak and cant handle much over 400whp. that said, if you keep the power modest , the wrx is a better daily due to lower fuel economy and softer suspension.
That's a really good point. If you are going to change a bunch of stuff on the STI will you just end up losing that extra value that makes it an STI. You'll pay a big premium and then lose that premium by putting mods on it.
Nice to have a new representative for FITMENT INDUSTRIES, such as you Sam! I would recommend a mid-late 1990's Impresa, as they are CHEAP, and ready to be Customized! And generally cheaper to Insure... They may be boring to look at, but the build is only limited to your Wallet and Imagination.
as a product advisor for subaru I typically steer people in the direction of the WRX simply because it's a more comfortable car to daily. STi for those really looking to party or coming from an equally as quick car though
I went from a WRX to an STI and I couldn't agree more. The WRX was much better at low speeds (Traffic) than the STI. Also, the ride and gas milage is better. The advantages of the STI (marginally faster, improved handling) don't really show themselves in daily use.
I always wanted a STi since I was little since I got to ride in a GD chassis when I was about 9 years old when that chassis first came out. Never wanted any other car more than an STi. I’ve owned faster substantially faster cars, but I never got the satisfaction that I do driving my STi’s. I never wanted just a WRX, it was always the STi. Just the raw feeling and handling of that car made me never go back to any other car, and I love the our cult Subie community and aftermarket. It’s got everything I want in a car. I own two VA’s and one GD. One VA has a built engine pushing 703 WHP on a MD, the other 2 are close enough to oem, minus a tune, exhaust, coils, etc. it’s just as fun taking it through the canyons and around the track with a near-oem set up. People that don’t think you can’t have fun in a 300+ crank horsepower car are wrong. Never get tired of these car(s) and I’m always excited when I take them out. WRXs or Imprezas that are non-STi are nice, and still fun but I couldn’t do it. I always had my eyes set on the STi.
I’ve had a slammed STI as my Lock Screen on my phone for 4 years. It’s my dream car, but I promised myself I’d pay cash for it. The grind to get there is fun :)
I live in MT so i bought the STI as my first subaru. Love it. Non studded blizzaks in the winter shred. Everything Bout the car is great. The closer to a racecar, the vetter it is for me to daily drive it. 😂
I got a bugeye wrx, all I’m going to complain about and would much rather prefer would be the 6-speed and brembos, other than that it’s pretty comparable to the sti
The cars are cosmetically the same so unless you plan to make significantly more power than stock power (over 400ish hp/375-400ish tq) and drag/launch the car, I don't think the STI is worth it. Full disclosure, I have a 2018 WRX with all the things making ~380 hp/350 tq running E60. I drive it everyday. 70k miles, 55k with all the bolt-ons and 30k since flex kit. Love it, super fun. Not a lot of problems (burned up header gasket, first clutch at 32k miles...). It was exactly what I wanted when I got it because I never intended to modify it past 350 whp... but things happen so it went a little further. HOWEVER... my next purchase would have been a 2023/24 STI but not sure what I'll get now. Definitely not the new WRX because I want to sit above 500 whp reliably and still daily the car. I don't want to deal with a transmission swap either. I never regretted my WRX purchase because I was always like "I can just upgrade to the STI after my WRX if I want to" and I wanted to.... but Subaru has nothing for me now :(
@@fordifly1368 cosmetically…. Engine, transmission, wheels, suspension, axles… not cosmetic. Put a debadged wrx with a wing next to a debadged STI with a wing. No difference, cosmetically. I reworded it. I think it was confusingly worded.
I bought a 2019 WRX in November of 2018. I don't regret anything, I got my WRX for under retail price and the STI's were over 10K more than my WRX limited. A 10% increase in power for a 33% increase in price did not make sense for me. Also, I got a job as a General Contractor and the WRX is great for driving on dirt/ gravel jobsites.
But if you’re gonna modify both, changing the engine or suspension is really where the differences lie. Why put on coilovers on the sti if you can put the same ones on the wrx for free. With the extra money you save from getting a wrx, you can spend that on mods that make it faster than the sti for the same or lower price
@@levithomsen8281 I think making a wrx better than an STI is kinda pointless unless you just want the experience.the drivetrain is already better in every way imaginable when it comes to performance
The 2015+ WRX builds boost quicker, and a good tune will have it reliably making the same whp as a stock STI. The real difference is the transmission, suspension, and diffs.
I bought a 2006 Legacy GT 4 years ago and it's the car that turned me into a car enthusiast, I always liked cars before but this Legacy GT is what made me fall in love with driving and it's the first car I've actually wanted to meticulously take care of. I want a WRX but I'm afraid that the driving experience isn't going to be that different and I'll spend a bunch of money for the same car essentially as the LGT has the same engine as a WRX. Anyone driven both and can talk about the differences? I'm not sure if I should save my money for an RS3 and just build the Legacy GT over time, maybe STi swap, I can always drop in a new engine and transmission without the huge Subaru tax of buying a whole STi or WRX. Plus the 4th gen Legacy GT I think looks good and is a lot more rare to see than a WRX. Makes for a great sleeper.
Bro this is my dream car. You're right about it's more rare. I barely see any on the road. I see Wrx and Sti everywhere. More wrx obviously but EVERYWHERE. I probably see 2 Lgts once in a while. One day I will make it 3.
Best bodystyle of the Impresa was the 1994 Coupe! Nobody knew what a Subaru was back then... I worked at an Importer Yard/Auto Auction back then, and learned how to "properly use a Clutch" in a 1978 Porche 911 Turbo Carrera (as told to by my Boss). Because it was also my responsibility to "Test Drive" every vehicle on our lot. Up to 46 Impressa's where driven/abused every day on an Enclosed Testing Track (~2.5miles long) by ME! I just couldn't afford one... And I also "Test Drove" the HEFTY STX, that was a bit harder around corners! -Yes, I'm THAT OLD... 💀
I bought a WRX back in February. It was already tuned Cobb Stage 2 power package with tons of other minor mods. It's great, I still love the red badges and bragging rights of the STI, but I also love getting an avg of 28 mpg too.
I’ve never driven a WRX but I wouldn’t get me one after I just got me an STi! I know it’s more expensive, mpg is kinda trash for a 4cyl but man the driving experience is unique and that rumble oh… man like no other. Those things really make up for the bad! 👍🏻 if you can afford the extra money, drop it! You won’t regret it.
@@FitmentIndustries Currently all my money goes to bike maintenance cause I don't want to be the proud owner of a 250cc paper weight lol. Maybe in a few years tho, don't have the space for one in my place right now too.
Parts are pretty much the same price because, like you said people put the same parts on both cars. Also, insurance is actually cheaper on an STI than a WRX, at least it was for me between my 2018 WRX and my 2019 STI. Don't get me wrong though, the fuel economy is way better on the WRX and will cover the difference in insurance costs alone. The WRX is a better daily driver that you can have fun with that makes sacrifices of pure driving feel. The STI is a more dedicated enthusiast car that makes compromises in fuel economy and a slightly harsher ride.
As for being a Subaru tech and daily driving an 06 wrx im going to say no. STI is still a ej257 witch is like 20 plus years old design and the wrx is a fa20 witch is a timing chain timing set instead of the ej timing belt setup. Push come to shove they both have design flaws that affect reliability an both are a pain to work on fa you don't need to lift engines for plugs or valve covers like the ej the top mount engine mounts make tilting it easier to work on. Really it just depends on what you wanna deal with. That's all saying your talking about the 15-20 STI and wrx if its an older one the difference is internals on engine, turbo, 6spd or 5spd trans, rear diff the knuckles wrx is press bearing STI is bolt in. An last one is brake calipers and rotors
STI owner here, insurance is exactly the same, all the parts you would put on (sans performance) are basically the same, and all the WRX's around me are faster (I am stock)! If you are going to mod for performance, the STI is really not all that worth it except the trans DCCD and all that, if you care. If you go looks-mods-only the WRX is the better buy, way better. I got the STI because ITS AN STI BOOOOOiiiiiiiii!
I drive a STI and my wife Drives a wrx. The STI has tighter steering and better transmission,Brakes and Suspension. The WRX is a fantastic car as daily and for Road trips. If you are planning to Mod for power go with the STI if you are modding for looks and a little more power go WRX. Both are great cars so there is no wrong choice!
@@FitmentIndustries The pure Red STI has a few cosmetic mods and muffler deletes. I have have some future Mods in mind. As for my Wife's WRX she has a set of Konig Hypergrams and that's it for now.
Just picked up a 02 WRX sport wagon for 2 grand. Ran like poop. Theu thought the engine was bad. Changed plugs and oil. Ran better but no boost. Ordered a header, turbo and BOV should be fun once completed. Ps I'm also in Wisconsin
You missed the opportunity to say how you can spend the $8000 difference. You could likely get a bigger turbo,stand alone ECU and quality suspension barely under budget. Or keep it stock and see how far 8 grand in gas gets you. I'm thinking from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego.
It all comes down to the prices and what your intended use. At the end of the day, anyone and everyone here that either owns one or the other knows they have a smile on there face and the feeling they get when they hop into the car. There are faster and more luxurious cars out there but no car has more bang for you buck then a Subaru WRX/STI.
Got a 2021sti in world rally blue/ sun roof / recado seats and all the goodies. Love the damn car. Been offer 6k more then what I paid but I am keeping it
having a 2020 Series White STI, i’m obviously biased. but after driving both, modded and stock, the sti is just a different beast all around. feels like a totally different car
For actual track use, buy the STi, the upgraded drivetrain alone is worth it. (Driveshafts, diffs, etc), if you're just streeting, just grab the wrx :p
@@JawnCoaltrain it drives like it's on rails, its just a different driving experience. Not to mention...you know they're not new anymore right? 40k STi isnt gonna be a thing once the 2021s are all finally off the lots.
I've owned my WRX for roughly 8 years. I've built it to be stanced and I knew spending the extra $10-$15k for the STI trim on a car that would never see anything over 90mph didn't make a lot of sense. IMO at that point you're just spending money for clout.
We got the 2.5rs which was the u.s version off the 22b. Had much less horsepower but I guess you could say it's technically the first wrx in the states.
Yes. STI is a better buy over a WRX (for me at least). Had both and currently have a 2020 STI. One can go for or against each car but again for me STI is the way to go.
When I went to the Subie dealership back in 2020. I had a choice between an STi and WRX…. Both white, both brand new. Just what I wanted…. I could afford either so what I was going for. Well the reason I went in the first place is my last 2 Subarus were EJ powered. And one blew up, the other transmission and engine problems…. If I got the STi I would be getting the same engine as my old Legacy GT and bugeye. So I leaned more towards the FA WRX. Buuuuuut here’s what sold me on the WRX. This particular WRX had the performance package which meant it had STi brembos and STi Recaro seats from factory! What a deal! So I went for that instead! Tho once in a while I do get some buyers remorse and should of gotten the STi but I’m too far into my FA that’s it’s just not worth trading in and starting over. Anyways both are great cars!
I just picked up an 11' STI hatch. Fucking worth every penny lmao. You also forget that STI's have 5x114 hub's vs WRX's 5x100. Subtle differences, together, make a huge difference.
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I bought a WRX over the STI only reason why is because I’m a new Enthusiast. I wanted to learn how to build up to that power myself and learn one step at a time. STI is definitely better. But if you gonna learn start at the bottom.
this is a proper way to do it! Slowly ease your way into it before hopping on to something wilder. -Edgar
Agreed! I went STI mainly for the transmission but both are fun and rewarding to build
I agree with you as well. I recently bought my first subie this year (2011 wrx) and slowly wanted to not only getting back to driving a manual, but learn more about subies in general. Plus, if you're eventually going to change out parts and make it your own, kinda makes it obsolete to pay for stock oem sti prices when you can get to the same results, if not better in the end. Idk, just my way of thinking about it. Either way, like most us have said, you can't go wrong with either trim. If you have the money for either, then it's all just up to you what route you want to take.
I’m not sure about this, the STI is a special car but I don’t think it requires a certain experience level. Now if someone was debating over a R/T or hellcat then I would say that would have an experience gap and someone who isn’t ready could get into some trouble
Build up to the power? The Wrx is literally faster on the streets stock for stock. There is a 30-40 hp difference which translates to better passing power on the freeway.
For $8,000 difference 100% the sti is worth it. 6 Speed, R180, Brembos, DCCD, SI Drive etc.
Easy to sum up, if you want to build a subaru for more than 450WHP get the STI. The FA20 is great but not for decent or higher power. The DI system runs out north of 450 and you'd be looking at adding a standalone port injection system.
If its a daily/weekend car, the fa20 is for better for fuel economy and low end power.
But I'd take the EJ all day
Get that flat 6 on the road brother! 🤙
EJs on real three metal headgaskets, oem till the day. I’ll take those. 04 WRX with original headgaskets, completely stock is a beauty.
I daily a 2020 wrx and two rear struts costs $1500 couldn’t imagine the cost of an sti’s parts. Some people don’t realize that it is a very very expensive car to properly maintain and the Sri parts are about 1.5 to 3 times more expensive
We just picked up a 2020 sti and these reasons we’re why we chose it over the wrx
Yea, the opposite is actually true. For 8 grand you can make a wrx significantly better than an sti.
Went with the WRX and it’s my daily. Better gas mileage and easier on my wallet was my reason why.
Same here👍
Are Stis more reliable then wrxs? Like less likely to break? For the 2006 year if I keep it bone stock
@@Eyeluvvyouyes, the transmission is the biggest difference. The 6 speed is a beast but if you shift a little wrong too many times the 5 speed on wrx will break 😊
@@jorgesito.. so if I’m looking for a reliable daily driver I should chose the STI over the WRX
Both are great. Obviously I prefer STI but both have enormous potential for any enthusiast
🤝🤝🤝 agreed! -Edgar
I feel like everyone would prefer an sti if money wasn’t an issue though
Good point
@@Smitaye- money wasn't an issue for me and picked the wrx. If I'm going to buy a better more expensive car with better performance I will get a Nissan z or mustang gt.
@@Smitaye- Nah not if you're picking from the VA chassis, do your research, AND your use case lines up a certain way. For example building for daily driving and rallycross? WRX is absolutely a better pick for almost every reason.
Money wasn't an issue for me and I went with the WRX for that reason- had $5k in mods at my door before I even had my car.
I considered the same things when I chose the WRX 2 years ago. While I am not opposed to a street racer, what I ultimately wanted was just a car that will get me where I am going...and I was going to rural sketchy backroads. In other words, I didn't want to race anyone - I wanted to confidently travel no matter the weather or conditions. And I do not regret it. My WRX is made for me - like if you can have a car soul mate...this is it. I will drive this car until they take my geriatric license one day.
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Are Stis more reliable then wrxs? Like less likely to break
@@Eyeluvvyou na the opposite sti engine isnt as realiable
Same for me too I feel connected with the car
I agree as well it is a soul mate car
Honestly, I bought my STi for the robust drive train, hydraulic steering and archaic feel. If the engine goes, I have funds ready for new built block. But I'll never really worry about changing the other parts if I keep it within certain limit of oomph. Resale value has always been great for the STi and it's only going to be better now that Subie decides to axe the car.
Same bro!
Are Stis more reliable then wrxs? Like less likely to break
@@Eyeluvvyou on paper no but its honeslty a coin toss depending who you ask. If taken care of properly and not pushed beyond its limit the EJ is still a great motor
I bought a 2004 WRX some 20 years ago. Over time i tuned it , put coilovers in it , drove it and took it to the track . It was fine, but i was scared for the transmission so i installed a full Sti transmission and steering rack. The motor is completed stock 2 liter with 328 HP and 44 kgr of torque since 2008. When it got the STi tranny and steering rack it went on a different level in driving. Different style in cornering , sharper steering response and more absolute requiring your engagement. Its a drivers car but the WRX is fine but Sti is the way to go. I do miss the 5 speed transmission in longer journeys but i couldnt stand the understeer and trying to find a slippery road to do an all wheel drift. When i installed the tranny i dont know how many 0-60 i did to make up for lost time. Suming up if you want a decent performer with daily capabilities then you go for the WRX. If you go on track days or you love cornering and joyful spirited driving you go with an Sti. I would not tune either of them stock more than 340 HP crank because they completely loose their character.
The final conclusion was exactly how I was feeling, does the price gap justify the performance difference. It’s the same with the e36 m3 vs 325i, as an investment for future sale? Sure but for the enthusiast driver, you’re better off with the lower model and spending the difference or less to have the better car. Great video, you have my vote for the nerdy stuff
Where I live in Michigan, with the awful lake effect snow, I went with the STI, due to the DCCD AWD system, as it's far superior to any other type of AWD in snow and ice . That transmission combined with the center differential was more than worth the extra money. Also the Subi rumble is so satisfying. 2020 engines are really problem free, unless you get stupid modifying them.
Respectfully disagree, having the ability to go FULL "Lock", is much better when the snow gets over 3". The center differentials ability to lock everything in 4wd can't be understated. Also I've been in my Brothers GTR in slippery conditions and it's not as good AWD in snowing / icy conditions.
Hope to see you on Woodward over the summer ;)
@Samuel Dubb famous street in Michigan basically ran by car ppl in the summer haha
@Samuel Dubb if I didn't live in this freezing Winter HELL.... that is Michigan, I'd totally agree with your opinion. Curving up the canyon roads, the DCCD is great, but probably not the best. But when you're in 6" of snow trying to get home from work at 1am, going up snow covered hills, with allot of ice under the snow. Well that's where having the center differential and the ability to manually lock in all 4 wheels.... That's really where this system excels. I only wish more vehicles had this option. I honestly don't think many people know, or understand the superiority and uniqueness of this amazing transmission option.
I live in flat ass Florida, so all cars handle the same lmao. I miss messing with snow and curves. However I own both evo and sti, the STi awd is squirly and kinda all over the place, but I like that. The evo is way more planted and reserved, easier to control. But the evo can’t do donuts :(
I’ve been a fan of these cars since I was a kid. When I finally decided that I wanted a Hawkeye I was shocked to see the prices of the STI models. That’s actually when I decided to go with a WRX model instead. The search was interesting for sure and I stumbled upon STI swapped Wrxs. I really had to do my homework on them to understand what I was getting into. I was able to come across a unfinished 2006 wrx that had an EJ257 and a 6 speed transmission from an 05 STI, that was sitting at a nice price. It’s definitely been an adventure with this car so far but I probably wouldn’t have done anything different honestly. Everything that I personally was looking for I found in this WRX.
Only to realize a minivan is faster with no turbo lag
@@toskitoski9899 Possibly yes but not what I was looking for. The sounds of unequal length headers is what really speaks to the soul in a Subaru.
Are Stis more reliable then wrxs? Like less likely to break
@@EyeluvvyouEngine is less reliable but the transmission is more reliable on the STI
As an STI owner, I can safely say that the WRX is an overall better design. Fuel injected, over port injected is a big deal, and for the price of a WRX + a ton of mods- you can far exceed the power of a stock STI for less cost. Also, gas mileage is awful on an STI, which really bites in these times.
The only reason I own an STI over a WRX is because I have specific wants from a car that can only be achieved by an STI, and it isn't my daily driver.
And as a former owner of a 2020 STI and now own the 2022 wrx, 2022 is 100% better than the STI
@@illyack5593 idk if I can’t agree with that it’s like comparing the type R and si and saying a new si is better than a type r but we all have our preferences
@@illyack5593i don’t know man that new WRX 2022+ is ugly as hell
@@e.c.r4231 lol
Are wrxs better for daily driving?
I would say no, in my area they're was a good 10k difference between the two. The sti's where around 43k, and for 43k I would look into something else.
What would you prefer to get into? -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries If we are talking 43k probably a mustang gt with a 6 speed or a g70.
Thats fair! -Edgar
You can find a Supra for around that price
@@Simplytr8y would also like to add golf r and the new z 👍👍👍
If the price isn’t an issue AND you have a good idea at what your getting yourself into then yes you should absolutely try to get your hands on a STOCK STI
The STI badge is pink after the cherry blossom tree.
As a 06 wrx owner the answer is yes. If your goal is to squeeze as much power out as possible, the sti is the way to go. The Sti cost 10k more for a reason. It has the better transmission, differential, brakes etc etc. The only reason you should get a wrx is if your goal is to stay stock or mostly stock power wise. The only reason I bought a wrx is because I prefer the wagons body over the sedan but I know I'm gonna have to swap that trans eventually.
Are Stis more reliable then wrxs? Like less likely to break? For the 2006 year if I keep it bone stock
My thoughts are if you want to make power, get the sti purely for the transmission. If you’re gonna daily it and do some small power mods and suspension/aesthetics then get the wrx
🤝🤝🤝 -Edgar
Are Stis more reliable then wrxs? Like less likely to break
Just got my WRX couple of weeks ago and I love it not to try and race anyone but it’s fun to drive everyday
Na, WRX can put in work too. My brothers 2017 WRX is making a little bit over 400 hp thanks to snail performance. Don’t doubt the underdog.
The Sti appreciate better so long as the miles are low. That said the wrx is the base of the sti. Only one is tuned by the factory. Everyone throws Colin's name around like he needed the Sti. He would have been a champion on any competitive team. Also the rules were much different back then, i doubt even the bolts were OEM.
The difference between the EJ and the FA in gas mileage is drastic. As a daily, I chose the WRX and spent my money on other modifications. I do love the sound of unequal length headers and that distinctive STI rumble… but it’s one of those sacrifices you make.
You can always change up the headers! May be pricey but hey. -Edgar
You’d probably have to change the twin scroll turbo if you change the headers or you’ll destroy it.
i went with the WRX over the STI because i wanted the FA motor, so far ive had 0 reliability issues in the last 100k miles
Older model or newer? I’m curious if the 06 wrx is more reliable then the 06 sti
Had my 05sti for nearly 15years, while its been a great car and ive had a ton of fun, its way more car than id ever need, its such a better car than i am a driver. It was my first subi and i should have started a little lower and worked up, a 2.5rs would be a better fit now that i look back
I like this guy's videos, feel like he's getting comfortable on camera
I bought a pre owned 2011 WRX unicorn six months ago! No mods - 100% stock.
Owned my '17 WRX for 5 years and daily drive 60 miles a day. #1 reason I won't upgrade to sti is gas milage.
I went WRX over STI because of better fuel mileage for daily driving.
I hear this excuse a lot I literally got 75 to 100 miles more per tank in my 2020 Wrx vs my 21 Sti it’s negligible considering what you get in return.
@@lucian7182 not an excuse. 22mpg at max is horrible. You get better mileage in a mustang gt or charger scatpack which outperform the sti heavily. Just not efficient as a daily driver.
Highest MPG I reached in my 2017 WRX was 35mpg 🤷🏽♂️
@@juicytoons1864 if you are going off the gage that reads then those aren't very accurate at all. The wrx definitely doesn't reach 35mpg even if you do all highway.
Good point. I went from a 2017 WRX to a 2019 STI and the difference in gas milage is significant. I went from 24 MPG in the WRX to 19 in the STI. That's a big penalty considering the STI really isn't that much faster in a straight line
I got a gen 1 BRZ and slapped a turbo kit on it. Now I have a 2 door WRX that is lighter and rear wheel drive!
What else is all done to it?! Do you have it up on the gallery? -Edgar
www.fitmentindustries.com/add-wheel-offset
Nice video but you said the biggest difference is the power, but you're wrong there, the handling and track capabilities is the biggest difference, WRX uses only front open diff and rear open diff with electronic brakepad vectoring. STI handles so good because it has front LSD, center active DCCD difd, and rear LSD.
Picked up a STI Type RA last year. Actually , there are huge differences between these two. The TY-85 comes from STI transmission is much more aggressive comparing to the TY-75 comes from WRX. The TY-75 also got the silly rev hang function. Also, the steering feeling of WRX is like a normal passenger car since it use EPS on the VA gen. And the main reason that I would prefer STI over WRX any time is that DCCD only comes with STI. It is the soul of a Subaru.
@@kindasustho_ He said steering not steering wheel.
@@creekboi7 please excuse my retardation.
i got a 2018 STi , i love the rumble , i think thats why i bought , just to have the rumble without the mods , but over all they are both cool and amazing cars
2018 STi owner.
If you even have to ask the question, then get the wrx.
If you truly want the STi then there's no question.
Facts 😮💨
The end basically sums it up. If you're going to do hpde track the car for you've whatever the sti is the way to go, if you're looking for something to cruise with or super slam or stance it out go for a wrx. I have a 21 sti and seeing other stis with -10 camber dropped beyond reasonable purpose hurts. But in the end it's your car do whatever u want...
I have owned a 2017 WRX and I now own a 2020 STI and I love both cars. The STI is the better car in my opinion. My Bluebaru is my daily driver to work up in Irvine CA. I live in Oceanside Ca, it's a 50 mile drive up and back. Totally worth it. Subies forever.
Went wrx over sti. Thought I made a mistake but the wrx is the better daily driver. Also the fa wrx makes power more easily being direct injection so bolt on and tunes yields better numbers over the sti. Big hp build the sti is the better option as the platform is more well known. It comes down to what you plan to do but as a daily driver I think the wrx is the better route.
Thank you for the info homie! Whats all done to the WRX? -Edgar
I owned a 2018 WRX for 2 years before getting my 2020 Series White STI. The WRX was great. The FA20 was delightful, the MPG was reasonable and I had a blast - it was a great car that I would recommend to anyone that wants to have fun.
I'll spare you a long story and just say that I think they are different cars. Not kinda different but really different. Locking diffs change cornering dynamics a metric butt ton.
I would say STI are good if you are going to track the car but if you just want to Daily drive it, not worth it. WRX is much better car for daily drive, Do Cobb Stage 1 and you will be faster then a Stock STI.
Well.. Hopefully Cobb can still deliver their products! -Edgar
The Rex is the way to go! Cheeper fun! And it is almost as good! Money for making it your own quicker! Love mine!
Went WRX because it’s easier to find and since I plan to daily and upgrade slowly over time it’s no big deal to me. It’s the same difference to me as a Nismo being a Nissan guy. It’s really up to you if you can justify the several grand more for a good used STI versus a clean 1 owner WRX .
I wanted a WRX for many years. Initially, I thought WRX was cheaper and not much different to the STI. When I was ready to buy Subaru just discontinued the STI. The more I looked into the STI the more I wanted one. I have heard many reviewers saying the WRX is a better daily driver/family car and the STI is less fuel efficient, and less comfortable to ride. Eventually, I got a 2020 Spec R model with low KM's. The price was inflated then and cost more than the new car price. The car was even more than the new WRX top spec. But I still went for it. I thought it was loud, uncomfortable, and hard to drive (change gear) when I tested it. I was afraid I was going to regret it. I drive the car daily, the more time I spend driving it the more I feel inseparable from it. Now I am thinking I would never sell the car. Everything they did to the STI makes sense to me now. It's simply the best car Subaru ever made (except for the limited number or special ones).
I bought a 2015 wrx used with 33k on the odometer and it’s been a blast. I daily drive it and I think either way the fuel economy is bad on these cars. With that said it’s a great car for every season and it can look great with very few cosmetic mods. I slapped a STI wing on mine just because I like the way the wing puts the car together. My only gripe I had with my car was the gear play that it comes with. That can easily be fixed with a shift stop and it takes like two minutes to install. After owning it for 3 years I wouldn’t change my mind on purchasing it. Also the stock wheels on the WRX are pretty ugly.
Wrx= daily
Sti= track
I respect anyone who will just buy an sti. Its an amazing car, but its a car meant to be track driven and if you arnt doing that then your not really using the cars full potential, thus kinda wasting your money imo. A wrx stage 2 is a phenomenal daily.
I had the chance to order new from factor either a 21 WRX or STI a year and a half a go, and went for the more practical choice in the WRX since it will be a daily driver once my old car dies. Part of me regrets not getting the STI now that they are on hiatus, but the WRX is still plenty fun, and I only got 3.6k miles and I've had it for 8 months. I'm new to the car scene, always loved cars never saw myself owning a cool JDM turbo charged car, and the car is plenty fun for me and I look forward to working on it in the future as my first project car.
As a Subaru nerd, let me sum this up. Really easy if you're going to drop 10 grand into building a motor for high horse power buy an STI if not by WRX
IMO, you can go with an STI and keep it stock and enjoy it. If you want to do crazy mods and transform it to your liking, go with WRX. (Obviously you can mod the STI too, but really it's a great car out of the box)
I’d have to say it’s quite the opposite, people 21-30 buy these cars and beat the piss out of them. If you buy used you are going to want to REALLY look over the history of the car, along with purchasing an AOS and a few other bolt ons that improve reliability.
@@dixbeflopin Yeah that's true, I was thinking mostly from a new-ish standpoint, but not realizing this is about the used market.
Are stis more reliable stock then wrxs stock?
sti is worth if just for the transmission. the wrx transmission is weak and cant handle much over 400whp. that said, if you keep the power modest , the wrx is a better daily due to lower fuel economy and softer suspension.
That's a really good point. If you are going to change a bunch of stuff on the STI will you just end up losing that extra value that makes it an STI. You'll pay a big premium and then lose that premium by putting mods on it.
Well yur paying for a better transmission, 3 differentials, big brakes and for better or for worse the ej
STi holds value. That alone is the best reason.
Nice to have a new representative for FITMENT INDUSTRIES, such as you Sam!
I would recommend a mid-late 1990's Impresa, as they are CHEAP, and ready to be Customized!
And generally cheaper to Insure...
They may be boring to look at, but the build is only limited to your Wallet and Imagination.
as a product advisor for subaru I typically steer people in the direction of the WRX simply because it's a more comfortable car to daily. STi for those really looking to party or coming from an equally as quick car though
I went from a WRX to an STI and I couldn't agree more. The WRX was much better at low speeds (Traffic) than the STI. Also, the ride and gas milage is better. The advantages of the STI (marginally faster, improved handling) don't really show themselves in daily use.
@@Jfromes1 might as well recommend a Prius then
@@Mike604 If a Prius was as quick as my STI I would
I always wanted a STi since I was little since I got to ride in a GD chassis when I was about 9 years old when that chassis first came out. Never wanted any other car more than an STi. I’ve owned faster substantially faster cars, but I never got the satisfaction that I do driving my STi’s. I never wanted just a WRX, it was always the STi. Just the raw feeling and handling of that car made me never go back to any other car, and I love the our cult Subie community and aftermarket. It’s got everything I want in a car. I own two VA’s and one GD. One VA has a built engine pushing 703 WHP on a MD, the other 2 are close enough to oem, minus a tune, exhaust, coils, etc. it’s just as fun taking it through the canyons and around the track with a near-oem set up. People that don’t think you can’t have fun in a 300+ crank horsepower car are wrong. Never get tired of these car(s) and I’m always excited when I take them out. WRXs or Imprezas that are non-STi are nice, and still fun but I couldn’t do it. I always had my eyes set on the STi.
Im debating if i should get a wrx or a sti i think both are awesome cars and fun to mod
It’s a tough choice for sure!
I have the ultimate sleeper in my 2005 Outback XT manual, it’s lifted 1” with +1 off road tires on Method rims. It has the STi 2.5L engine.
They actually chose the colour pink for the sti to match with the pink cherry blossoms in Tokyo, where the Subaru headquarters were
I’ve had a slammed STI as my Lock Screen on my phone for 4 years. It’s my dream car, but I promised myself I’d pay cash for it. The grind to get there is fun :)
As long as you're having fun! -Edgar
The recent news making that goal take even longer :(
Subaru announced the end of the STi on the WRX. I would honestly recommend going for one soon because the price for STi's is going to skyrocket soon.
I live in MT so i bought the STI as my first subaru. Love it. Non studded blizzaks in the winter shred. Everything Bout the car is great. The closer to a racecar, the vetter it is for me to daily drive it. 😂
I got a bugeye wrx, all I’m going to complain about and would much rather prefer would be the 6-speed and brembos, other than that it’s pretty comparable to the sti
As an STi owner, the answer is always yes and yes.
my 2013 wrx wagon has a full sti drivetrain and 39000miles on it just got it i’m so happy with it so i guess it’s pretty much an sti
The cars are cosmetically the same so unless you plan to make significantly more power than stock power (over 400ish hp/375-400ish tq) and drag/launch the car, I don't think the STI is worth it. Full disclosure, I have a 2018 WRX with all the things making ~380 hp/350 tq running E60. I drive it everyday. 70k miles, 55k with all the bolt-ons and 30k since flex kit. Love it, super fun. Not a lot of problems (burned up header gasket, first clutch at 32k miles...).
It was exactly what I wanted when I got it because I never intended to modify it past 350 whp... but things happen so it went a little further. HOWEVER... my next purchase would have been a 2023/24 STI but not sure what I'll get now. Definitely not the new WRX because I want to sit above 500 whp reliably and still daily the car. I don't want to deal with a transmission swap either. I never regretted my WRX purchase because I was always like "I can just upgrade to the STI after my WRX if I want to" and I wanted to....
but Subaru has nothing for me now :(
They’re literally the same car? Come on man. That’s as false as false can be
@@fordifly1368 cosmetically…. Engine, transmission, wheels, suspension, axles… not cosmetic. Put a debadged wrx with a wing next to a debadged STI with a wing. No difference, cosmetically.
I reworded it. I think it was confusingly worded.
@@biggin2155 right on
Remember when they used to be one car? Ahhh the good ole days.
😅😅😅 well.. Now it is one car again! -Edgar
I bought a 2019 WRX in November of 2018. I don't regret anything, I got my WRX for under retail price and the STI's were over 10K more than my WRX limited. A 10% increase in power for a 33% increase in price did not make sense for me. Also, I got a job as a General Contractor and the WRX is great for driving on dirt/ gravel jobsites.
My turbo Baja gonna take most of them to Gapplebees either way 😉
The pink badge on the STI is inspired by the pink Cherry Blossoms outside of Subaru headquarters in Japan.
For me, I just love the sound of sti.
People buy WRXs just to change it into an STI. STI will always be worth it over a WRX.
But if you’re gonna modify both, changing the engine or suspension is really where the differences lie. Why put on coilovers on the sti if you can put the same ones on the wrx for free. With the extra money you save from getting a wrx, you can spend that on mods that make it faster than the sti for the same or lower price
Or throw an STI badge and some trim 😅
@@levithomsen8281 I think making a wrx better than an STI is kinda pointless unless you just want the experience.the drivetrain is already better in every way imaginable when it comes to performance
I bought a WRX to make it better than a STI.
Two different cars for different enthusiasts. STI in OEM trim is a track car (whatever type) that can function as an underwhelming daily (low torque
2012 wrx hatchback here - love it
I call bs on the insurance being higher, I gave the VIN for my new STI to the insurance company and my cards all say WRX based on VIN.
The 2015+ WRX builds boost quicker, and a good tune will have it reliably making the same whp as a stock STI. The real difference is the transmission, suspension, and diffs.
People who complain about daily driving an STi might as well get a Prius or Tesla 🤡
I bought a 2006 Legacy GT 4 years ago and it's the car that turned me into a car enthusiast, I always liked cars before but this Legacy GT is what made me fall in love with driving and it's the first car I've actually wanted to meticulously take care of. I want a WRX but I'm afraid that the driving experience isn't going to be that different and I'll spend a bunch of money for the same car essentially as the LGT has the same engine as a WRX. Anyone driven both and can talk about the differences? I'm not sure if I should save my money for an RS3 and just build the Legacy GT over time, maybe STi swap, I can always drop in a new engine and transmission without the huge Subaru tax of buying a whole STi or WRX. Plus the 4th gen Legacy GT I think looks good and is a lot more rare to see than a WRX. Makes for a great sleeper.
Thanks for sharing! 🙌 -Edgar
Bro this is my dream car. You're right about it's more rare. I barely see any on the road. I see Wrx and Sti everywhere. More wrx obviously but EVERYWHERE. I probably see 2 Lgts once in a while. One day I will make it 3.
@@malachilatroy Did you get one yet? I still have mine @ 220K and still loving it. I'm having a really hard time choosing what the next car will be.
Best bodystyle of the Impresa was the 1994 Coupe!
Nobody knew what a Subaru was back then...
I worked at an Importer Yard/Auto Auction back then, and learned how to "properly use a Clutch" in a 1978 Porche 911 Turbo Carrera (as told to by my Boss).
Because it was also my responsibility to "Test Drive" every vehicle on our lot. Up to 46 Impressa's where driven/abused every day on an Enclosed Testing Track (~2.5miles long) by ME!
I just couldn't afford one...
And I also "Test Drove" the HEFTY STX, that was a bit harder around corners!
-Yes, I'm THAT OLD... 💀
I'm from Malaysia, 6 mths of raining time here. I daily the 2015 Raptor eye WRX 110K km , 19-20MPG 70% city .
I bought a WRX back in February. It was already tuned Cobb Stage 2 power package with tons of other minor mods. It's great, I still love the red badges and bragging rights of the STI, but I also love getting an avg of 28 mpg too.
Slow as shitbox
I’ve never driven a WRX but I wouldn’t get me one after I just got me an STi! I know it’s more expensive, mpg is kinda trash for a 4cyl but man the driving experience is unique and that rumble oh… man like no other. Those things really make up for the bad! 👍🏻 if you can afford the extra money, drop it! You won’t regret it.
Both are extremely cool in their own way. At the end of the day love your ride. I would love to try rally racing.
Closest thing you can get to that is a SIM rig! -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries Currently all my money goes to bike maintenance cause I don't want to be the proud owner of a 250cc paper weight lol. Maybe in a few years tho, don't have the space for one in my place right now too.
Parts are pretty much the same price because, like you said people put the same parts on both cars. Also, insurance is actually cheaper on an STI than a WRX, at least it was for me between my 2018 WRX and my 2019 STI. Don't get me wrong though, the fuel economy is way better on the WRX and will cover the difference in insurance costs alone. The WRX is a better daily driver that you can have fun with that makes sacrifices of pure driving feel. The STI is a more dedicated enthusiast car that makes compromises in fuel economy and a slightly harsher ride.
As for being a Subaru tech and daily driving an 06 wrx im going to say no. STI is still a ej257 witch is like 20 plus years old design and the wrx is a fa20 witch is a timing chain timing set instead of the ej timing belt setup. Push come to shove they both have design flaws that affect reliability an both are a pain to work on fa you don't need to lift engines for plugs or valve covers like the ej the top mount engine mounts make tilting it easier to work on. Really it just depends on what you wanna deal with. That's all saying your talking about the 15-20 STI and wrx if its an older one the difference is internals on engine, turbo, 6spd or 5spd trans, rear diff the knuckles wrx is press bearing STI is bolt in. An last one is brake calipers and rotors
Thanks for the insight! -Edgar
STI owner here, insurance is exactly the same, all the parts you would put on (sans performance) are basically the same, and all the WRX's around me are faster (I am stock)! If you are going to mod for performance, the STI is really not all that worth it except the trans DCCD and all that, if you care. If you go looks-mods-only the WRX is the better buy, way better. I got the STI because ITS AN STI BOOOOOiiiiiiiii!
I drive a STI and my wife Drives a wrx. The STI has tighter steering and better transmission,Brakes and Suspension. The WRX is a fantastic car as daily and for Road trips. If you are planning to Mod for power go with the STI if you are modding for looks and a little more power go WRX. Both are great cars so there is no wrong choice!
Love this, have you guys modded your cars at all by chance?! Anything fun done to them? -Edgar
@@FitmentIndustries The pure Red STI has a few cosmetic mods and muffler deletes. I have have some future Mods in mind. As for my Wife's WRX she has a set of Konig Hypergrams and that's it for now.
Just picked up a 02 WRX sport wagon for 2 grand. Ran like poop. Theu thought the engine was bad. Changed plugs and oil. Ran better but no boost. Ordered a header, turbo and BOV should be fun once completed. Ps I'm also in Wisconsin
Insurance for the STI and WRX in NC is the same. The big difference is the Brembo and the interior... worth it? Yes!!!!
Whats all done to it?! Any other big plans? -Edgar
You missed the opportunity to say how you can spend the $8000 difference.
You could likely get a bigger turbo,stand alone ECU and quality suspension barely under budget.
Or keep it stock and see how far 8 grand in gas gets you.
I'm thinking from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego.
It all comes down to the prices and what your intended use. At the end of the day, anyone and everyone here that either owns one or the other knows they have a smile on there face and the feeling they get when they hop into the car. There are faster and more luxurious cars out there but no car has more bang for you buck then a Subaru WRX/STI.
💪💪💪 -Edgar
Got a 2021sti in world rally blue/ sun roof / recado seats and all the goodies. Love the damn car. Been offer 6k more then what I paid but I am keeping it
having a 2020 Series White STI, i’m obviously biased. but after driving both, modded and stock, the sti is just a different beast all around. feels like a totally different car
Do a video on the hatchback 11-14! Personally think it's the best
I did it for the subi rumble. Worth it!
Please go into full detail on all about the sti. I’m planning on buying one later this year
For actual track use, buy the STi, the upgraded drivetrain alone is worth it. (Driveshafts, diffs, etc), if you're just streeting, just grab the wrx :p
Buying a STI solely to track it is a waste of $40k imo, but to each their own.
@@JawnCoaltrain it drives like it's on rails, its just a different driving experience. Not to mention...you know they're not new anymore right? 40k STi isnt gonna be a thing once the 2021s are all finally off the lots.
@@JawnCoaltrain I agree. Get a Miata if you truly want a track build lol
I've owned my WRX for roughly 8 years. I've built it to be stanced and I knew spending the extra $10-$15k for the STI trim on a car that would never see anything over 90mph didn't make a lot of sense. IMO at that point you're just spending money for clout.
We got the 2.5rs which was the u.s version off the 22b. Had much less horsepower but I guess you could say it's technically the first wrx in the states.
Yes. STI is a better buy over a WRX (for me at least). Had both and currently have a 2020 STI. One can go for or against each car but again for me STI is the way to go.
The rally guys do engine swaps every week. I would recommend this for a boxer.
15+ Models is what he's really referring to. 09-14 is the generation before the VA chassis. Ive had a GC6, GG8, GR hatch, BP6 LGT, and an SH6 Forester
When I went to the Subie dealership back in 2020. I had a choice between an STi and WRX…. Both white, both brand new. Just what I wanted…. I could afford either so what I was going for. Well the reason I went in the first place is my last 2 Subarus were EJ powered. And one blew up, the other transmission and engine problems…. If I got the STi I would be getting the same engine as my old Legacy GT and bugeye. So I leaned more towards the FA WRX. Buuuuuut here’s what sold me on the WRX. This particular WRX had the performance package which meant it had STi brembos and STi Recaro seats from factory! What a deal! So I went for that instead! Tho once in a while I do get some buyers remorse and should of gotten the STi but I’m too far into my FA that’s it’s just not worth trading in and starting over. Anyways both are great cars!
I bought a 2023 wrx over a sti becuse of warranty and drivability. My wife saw the wing on sti and said no as well
I’m pretty sure subaru said the next STI will be and electric car sometime in the future….I could be wrong tho
An electric STI?! Alright! -Edgar
I just picked up an 11' STI hatch. Fucking worth every penny lmao. You also forget that STI's have 5x114 hub's vs WRX's 5x100. Subtle differences, together, make a huge difference.
Picked up a wrx limited in 2018. Didnt want the ej25 engine. Wanted the new fa20dit engine instead
How are you liking it so still? Anything done to it? -Edgar