Why NO ONE Plays: Klee | Genshin Impact
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- Back with another episode of Why NO ONE Plays! Today we're gonna talk about everyone's favorite arsonist: Klee!
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Not even gonna watch the video. Just came to say: wtf are you talking about, lots of people love and play Klee. I'm a Klee main, half of my friend group became Klee mains ever since her rerun banner, Klee is awesome and strong and we do every content in the game with her with ease. "No one" plays Klee, my ass.
"Instead of being rational and hearing what he has to say, I'm gonna let my feelings and bias over a *fictitious* character get the best of me and be extremely offended, because this video is obviously a personal attack!"
yo that is why you should have watched the video ...... in the first 1 minute he tells that he doesnt mean to hurt anybody and doing this to show the reason why she is not used . I am also a klee main but i dont mind if someone has some other opinion on her.
Edit = thanks guys for so much support . I like you are not offended and that is very heartwarming . Hopefully I was able to help you in some way……
Imagine dismissing the video without ever watching it. You're the type to get outraged over article headlines without reading them because they hurt your feelings lmao
yo chill. listen to the disclaimer in the beginning my guy
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Klee is fun because you feel like you're playing a cartoon character. I love how bouncy her attacks look, and the sound design is great. She just goes boom boom!
boom boom bakuda!!
I hear all this problem and honestly, they can't change my mind. This cute little child shall burn all of Teyvat lol
Klee makes me really sad because her character is so fun. This tiny little girl who accidentally destroys mountains is just the best character archetype ever. But despite having guaranteed pity on both of her banners, I skipped her both times after trial because she just feels bad to play.
She once traveled to the Primo Geovishap and beat it by herself and got back before Jean Found out, all in one Afternoon
Lolis
To be fair the gameplays for catalyst and bow user are subpar than other weapons.
Yep. Tried to pull her and got her but never played her
Same thing with Kokomi. She's supposedly a battle strategy master mind but both the story and the game did not do her good.
You don't play klee because of her kit,
I don't play klee because I don't want her to get hurt.
We are not the same.
You don't play Klee because you don't want her to get hurt.
I don't play Klee because i don't like children.
We are not the same.
@@emptyallen3334you don't play klee because you don't like children,
I don't play klee because I don't have her
We are not the same
@@Tx_98 You don't play Klee because you don't have her, I don't play Klee because I lose my 50/50 to qiqi.
We are not the same
@@emptyallen3334 that made no sense
You don't play Klee because you don't want her to get hurt,
I don't play Klee because of her limited range and inconveniency compared to other characters are objectively bad.
We are indeed not the same.
I don't play Klee not because of her game play. Its because the VA did too good of a job portraying an innocent child. When someone like Beidou gets hit, she grunts, gets up and say "Not bad" or "Haven't won yet." When Klee gets hit, she cries abit or says "that hurts." My heart can't take it.
"I feel kinda woozy..."
"I wanna go home now..."
"It was an accident..."
"Jean, they are picking on me..." ^^@@Preaplanes
The only buff I need for Klee is her burst stay on field. That way she can terrorize enemy even without her showing up.
Yes! my exact thought. and when her burst ends the explosion from the constellation will occur
bruh exactly when i got her i was kinda disappointed when her burst cant stay on field
Shiet. If they made it into one of her constellations, like c1 or c2, I would hard-roll on that rerun banner.
@@gmsimon it is already, lol
@@nachalnik5738 no?
If her ult stayed after swapping she would be always be played :’(
Ikr pyro support
She will become xiangling
Too bad Mhy refuses to fix/buff characters after release unless the entire playerbase riots.
@@zippo718 once a character is out of beta mihoyo is practically done with that character. Expecting a buff/fix after an year is just wishful thinking. The only time they did was with zhongli because he was thoma level of mediocre for a 5* geo archon
What mihoyo does is indirect buffs in the form of artifacts/weapons/characters like the new artifact set for geo characters
I personally see klee as a great pyro applicator like childe so if we get a new xiangling type hydro or cryo character klee will probably rise up in meta
if that was a thing she would become the pyro xingqiu
Why I play Klee: she gives big numbers, her animation cancels feel satisfying to achieve, and I have to focus because I get punished if I mess up. So I get why most people don't play Klee but she achieves a niche that no other character other than HuTao imo fills which is satisfying mechanical gameplay.
Same been playing her since her original banner I got on her rather decent crimson witch set with Lost Prayer to the Sacred Winds with crit rate crit damage at 64/150 and 90% pyro bonus dmg her overall base atk total is 2113 so she hits like a truck while also being fun to play
You can cancel too with hutao and it's "satisying mechanical gameplay" gives even bigger numbers, has to focus to not get punished.
@@kozukihiyori3387 Thats why I mentioned Hu Tao. As someone with both though, personally I think Klee feels more intricate than Hu Tao who, once you get the timing right, is still pretty simple. Klee also has less downtime
I wish I had her but I skipped her for kazuha and still lost the 50/50
@@MrAxnavara same
I really love Klee but with a lot of people saying that her gameplay is clunky, I doubted her for a while back then. But then I realized that the most important thing for me is to enjoy the game with the characters I like so I decided to save up for her next rerun :D Now I’m at 18k primos saving to 24k for a guaranteed Klee
Edit: I lost 50/50 to Diluc 🗿 but I still got her anyway with 76 pity ;-;
same here, u should pull for the characters that u want !!
Me too, but il prob just spend 50€ and with me already having 20+ pity and 1k primos, im prob get her, if i dont lose the 50/50 that is
Chad Duck Wish us luck to win the 50/50 😂
omg, hope you win 50/50 and get her early!
diane Thanks!
she's still one of the most satisfying characters to use for me. i love seeing a lot of numbers on the screen rather than one big number. i always pair her with kazuha for even more satisfaction.
She is one of the best char to teach thoose bad doggo a lesson
love hearing her voice in cn its too cute. I rarely do abyss anyways so I'm still having fun using Klee
@@retuo1425 yeaaah!! i mostly use jp voices myself, but the chinese one is super cute as well!
i try to make klee useful for most content since i have used 2 crowns on her so far, and she does really well so i have like no complaints about her
This is why I play xiao
A fellow Klee and Kazuhiro user!!
If her burst didn’t go away when you switch characters she would actually be awesome, imagine if Xianglings pyronado disappeared when you switched characters, nobody would use her.
unfortunately Razor suffers from the same problem ;( Noelle’s technically disappears but you can switch back to her in time and it reappears- wish it was the same with Razor
Just use Shimenawa. Her burst isn't needed anyway. Sure, it provides a decent additional DPS, but your main damage comes from her auto hits.
@@pascalschwerdtmann4397 Agree. Also she can play as vape/melt reactor when uses Shime.
@@ashtheintroverted7204 what you just said means Noelle's doesn't dissapear, bruh
@@xLuis89x I guess i mean other characters can’t use it lol-
Klee was my first five star, I got her early in the game because I LOVED her character.
But because she’s been my main dps for so long, I am so used to her slower play style with more numbers, that I find it hard to use a lot of other characters, especially sword users. The only sword user I have built is Bennett, and that was only because everyone loves him. I’ve adapted to the knock back and struggle when enemies are consistently close to me, because I use the knock back as a way to dodge (squishy Klee) and to push enemies to where I want them, and then ult.
klee has also been my main dps ever since i got her and i REALLY disliked sword users playstyle too, they felt so weird to use
U dont like Sword Chara playstyle too!??? Same!! I really like Bows Playstyle though....Its my fav!
SAME LMAO I understand that going after enemies can be real hard with how much stamina she needs (i treally is hard sometimes), but it also helps me a lot when klee is in trouble and abt to take a massive hit
I used to main Klee. But everything change after I pulled Shenhe and Ayaka with Misplitter
I got Klee on accident at two pity on a 50/50 while trying to build pity for Kazuha. At first I was so upset because I just hated her kit, but the more I used and raised her, the more she grew on me, and now she’s one of my favorite DPS characters. It goes to show that sometimes characters have their issues, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be a good character for you, personally.
Also shows why you shouldn’t “build pity”
@@AvilioAmici I still did get Kaz tho ❤️
SAME LMAO I didn’t want her at all I wanted 4star constellations but I ended up pulling her and now I main her 💀
I don't understand why people build pities, just save your primos until the banner of the character you desire comes out and then dump all your primos in, the only 2 reason I can see why anyone would build their pity on a banner they DON'T want is 1) They want the 4 stars in the banner, not the 5 star or 2) They just want to do the 50 wish BP mission which I find hard to believe
@@IceeFish Exactly. As a F2P, ain't no way I'm burning primos just to build pity. Last time, i saved up 14,000 primos to bring Ganyu home and i used 8,000 of those to get her. Best 8,000 I've ever spent. Got Ganyu, beidou, xingqiu, and C1 yanfei (and C1 xinyan, but who really cares about her)
I dont have Klee, but I can see now why people prefer Yanfei over her. Not only because Yanfei is a 4* and can get cons easier, but Klee's playstyle and animations seem harder to do
Yanfei is not that good who says yanfei is more better then klee . Klee is far more good then her She's is on her own league
@@surajthapa9007 this is just wrong lol
@@surajthapa9007 lmfao what
@@magk2524 czcams.com/video/MhRELflimK4/video.html
I have a c0 Klee and a c6 Yanfei, I've stopped playing Klee not because of difficulty, but because she drains tons of stamina even if you jump cancel, she throws enemies away from you, she has and short range, and her dash is also very short because of her size
Meanwhile Yanfei can attack enemies from miles away while she gives herself a shield and her charge attacks can have the stamina cost reduced much more and much more consistently than Klee's
Just a quick note, Kokomi's basic atacks are more like Yanfei's than Barbara or Mona because she attacks with water fishes that act like proyectiles. Awesome video nontheless!
Yes 💙
Yeah , Yanfei , Ningguang and Kokomi sends projectiles which I think are far more superior than teleported shots like Mona , Barbara or Sucrose because if an enemy dashes , your projectiles (if are locked on the enemy) can just simply change direction and hit them (saw that A LOT while fighting the Thunder Manifestation on Amakumo Peak
@@thelaw11 Honestly, my favorite part of Yanfei’s basic attacks. I was fighting one of those random little flies(can’t remember their names for the life of me), and even though it kept moving around, the fireball stayed locked on and hit it anyway, no matter how much it moved. So cool to watch.
@@ChloeStarz_ true , yanfei truly shines when facing these creatures . She is a very useful character in oceanid fights because I don’t have a good bow character and she acts as a hybrid of cool melees and super useful for ranged attacks
@@thelaw11 Yanqueen 🔥🥰👑
Correction: Kokomi has similar type as Ningguang and Yanfei. She throws hydro fish like a pistol not like Lisa or Barb who's ability is more like psychic powers.
If they make a fish-shaped catalyst that can't be used on Kokomi effectively, we riot.
@@Remls Yes!!! They better make a luxurious jellyfish which is literally a living pink, blue and pruple coloured jellyfish pet. Otherwise, we shall protest. We shall demand what the people deserve!
I'm really hoping Alice will work well together with Klee and make her a more comfortable character to use to be honest. Tho I think she will probably also be a main DPS. But it would be interesting if they worked well to support each other, like if they were both a mix of main and sub DPS and support the way Klee is, maybe that would make her better
Imagine Alice being a subdps who grants Pyro buffs and maybe a shield
Covering Klees weak points while promoting her as the front line damage dealer, which works in line with her "watches from afar, but never too far away" sort of character they've given
bro wtf are you talking about
Who's alice?
@@joelguren1412 Klee's mom
The biggest reason I stopped using Klee regularly: a lot of the short-range and stamina mechanics can be played around (I got good at jump canceling charges and step canceling autos), but a lot of the new enemies have dash attacks that go well out of your range that you can't compensate for at all, and it looks like this is going to be a staple for enemy design from now on.
She has some encounters where she really shines, like the multiple ruin construct boss, but it feels like everything just runs away from you at the drop of a hat now. Even Childe tended to spam dashes when I fought him with Klee. (Which even happens at 1:08.)
Generally character changes won't happen, so I try to think about what kind of unit would enable others better, as well as enemy mechanics. Anything that could CC or prevent units from moving back would help a lot. Sucrose is great for stuff like this, but doesn't cluster units close enough for klee to reliably hit them. If they also made it so knockback depended on the way you were facing instead of just away from you, it'd prevent enemies from being scattered as bad with a charge attack.
That's my main gripes with every new single enemy update mihoyo has been making:
-they create a new character meta ( Zhong li shield meta for example).
-then they create a enemy that needs you to use that meta ( Geovishap, Azdaha, etc)
-New update new characters meta
-and now new enemies that simply ignore the previous meta ( stupid wolfies).
At the end of the day the only thing that survives is the same overpowered 4 stars characters that we had since the beginning. IDK sometimes this design update just makes me a little tired, specially with how many caveats every new single char has.
@@jonhmata But according to this formula, we'll be getting more characters to beat up the wolves! Maybe we already have if you think Itto can do it. (The bad side? Itto counter coming soon.)
@@Tururu134 well tbf his charged attack animation do hit the stupid hitboxes they have when charging, but I would only recommend him against the Geo ones. And anything that resists Geo is already a Itto counter, still a fun character though.
Wow, I already knew you're a Genshin player months ago but i didn't expect you play Klee regularly. Since you did stop playing Klee regularly, do you think Yanfei is a good alternative or she's worse? I found enjoying her more than Klee because of range coverage and playing her with Mona and Ei made her more satisfying. Granted, I don't have klee but ever since i saw her problems immediately at her first banner run on her trial stage, I didn't roll for her despite being a loveable character.
In other words, ruined by bad game design.
Klee's play style and kit is definitely coincides with her age lore-wise. I actually love playing her. She's so fun even amid the issues.
As a Klee main, I think Klee is a good character and fun to play. And for me she does tons of damage, for example whenever I do her charged attack it does 20k or a bit more dmg without cryo or hydro. I’m not saying Klee has no problems, she is sometimes clunky, stamina consuming, and not that fast. But in my opinion she is a great and fun to play character that does tons of damage and no hate to other mains. :) oh by the way I main ganyu too and they both support eachother.
I tried hard to get into Klee's playstyle since she was my second ever 5 star (I wasn't pulling for her but eh). But the way her normal and charged attacks worked drove me crazy. The lock on seemed to rarely work correctly and it was immensely slow. At the time, my only other catalyst user was Lisa, so I had initially thought all catalyst users would have at least similar range. Klee proved that assumption very, very wrong. Then there's the stamina issues, the inherent slowness of "tiny" characters, and my admittedly general dislike of children characters in the first place (Kind of hilarious really. The *only* "child" character I wanted was Diona, and Mihoyo saw it fit to give me literally all of them. sigh) Yes, she had the damage output, but no matter how hard I tried, I just couldn't get around all the downsides. She just didn't fit my playstyle.
Of course, the second I heard Yanfei was coming, I immediately hopped on her bandwagon. I enjoy her playstyle *ALOT* more. She's my go-to ranged pyro specialist.
So I had Klee when she first came out and I completely agree.
Klee is just mechanically difficult to play. Learning how to animation cancel and having to manage your stamina to charge attack while dashing away from enemies when they’re too close can be a struggle to some. Also having one of the lowest hp in the game doesn’t help. If you want Klee I highly recommend having a shield to make her easier to play.
To how I would change her, it would be her range and burst. Her range can be better, maybe 5-10 meters more. And I agree with you on how the burst should stay up even when swapping out. That would mean her c4 should get a rework.
idk my opinion
Idk man her c4 could just stay cause she literally turns into a c4 and i think thats funny as hell and people paid for it so it could cause some complaints but yeah they definitely should've just made her a 5 star xiangling cause xingqiu's sword just ain't enough
I have zhongli, her pathetic mobility isnt a problem for me
@@scotttempest8857 I never thought of that, it pretty funny LMAO
@@IceWotor I got zhongli too, Klee carried all of dragonspine for me
If her ult stays after swapping she would be kicked out of the dps role and people would start using her as an off-field sub dps. I personally would do that. To make Klee relevant again they need to give her a signature artifact set and work on her clunkiness. I agree with increasing her range , she's basically a melee mage right now.
So as someone who has had Klee since her initial rerun, I will say that she has issues. She’s very squishy, she can only do pyro dmg, and she has somewhat mediocre range. However, most of this can be made up, especially since Klee isn’t gonna be the only character in your party. Klee’s passive makes it so she doesn’t consume stamina for her charge attacks whenever she gets a clover, and her cancels can make it so she can not only attack, but also move at the same time. In terms of teammates, Raiden, Kazuha, Zhongli, Albedo, and Xingqiu, and a few others can work wonders with Klee. Raiden’s Skill means Klee’s burst gets an extra overloaded hit every time you aren’t on cool down, Kazuha provides and elemental dmg bonus by swirling the bombs, Zhongli is just a good shield, and Xingqiu helps with vaporize when Klee uses her normals. I think the main issue of why people play Klee less is because of the fact that Hu Tao exists. Hu Tao not only can do way more dmg, but also has the edition of being able to do phys, which means unlike Klee who can’t dmg the pyro hypostasis Hu Tao can. Honestly it’s just a matter dmg and good team set up. Also Klee’s cancels are super easy to learn, and once you learn it for her, you can basically do it for every character that needs it, also Klee mostly uses walk cancels not jump or sprint cancels. Also the only truly bad thing about Klee is her splash art, like give her a better one, it’s literally a 4 Star’s
You say that Klee's cancels allows you to do cancels on other characters, but then go on to say that she uses walk cancels.
When literally no meta character (that I know of I apologise greatly if there is) uses walk cancels. Typically it's jump or dash cancels...
@@byeguyssry you cancel her NA with walking and CA with jumping
@@byeguyssry Ningguang usually uses walk cancels, Kokomi amd Yanfei can just do their normal attack strings. Literally no one other than Klee or Ning use cancels, everyone else you mostly use their skills or you just do their regular combo, Klee does more dmg with her first attack and for Ning it’s just faster with cancels. You are totally right that other characters use dash or jump, but most aren’t catalysts. Catalysts just be built different
@@mrmr9284 yeah, and Ningguang isn't meta, so my point is that you're kinda contradicting yourself by saying that, she helps you learn cancels that you can apply to other chars, implying that the cancels that she uses can be used on other chars. But you also go on to say that she uses walk cancels and not jump or dash cancels, which as we just agreed no one but Ningguang uses.
I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies in your original comment.
@@byeguyssry you aren’t wrong, but walk Ning is kinda meta, you just have to use a Geo team, which is kinda popping up thanks to Itto. I’m not saying I disagree with the inconsistencies, but I’m just saying that Klee is decent at helping you understand timings. Also do you even have Klee? Cause like otherwise you can’t say anything.
i love klee, she's one of my favorite characters, I'm currently maining her, she's super fun to play as mostly because of how chaotic fights are with her, she's decently hard as a dps to main but i still love her dearly
I've been playing Klee every day ever since I've got her a year ago. She's such a fun character to play. She has a heart of a true adventurer. I don't really care about numbers. Her unique play style and infinite enthusiasm is what I love about her, and she will always have a place in my party.
Same ! I main Klee ^^ She will never leave my party.
same! people are so obsessed with numbers, just play who you enjoy
Same, she's my support despite being on the field more than my main
You see, the problem with Klee isn't the number. She actually has really good dmg but really crap user experience so the thing you should be ignoring is her gameplay but not her dmg
i get that- i love her personality + character design/animation- but that’s not what makes her unenjoyable to play for so many people. her attack animations are clunky and slow to deal damage, her range is very small for a catalyst user, and it’s pretty annoying (at least for me) to be forced to animation cancel over and over to get the smooth results i expect out of the gameplay and characters- uninterrupted by anything other than enemies in game. personally, it really takes away from the experience when i have to constantly focus on unnecessarily precise timing with klee instead of just having fun.
As someone with Klee, I have to say...she's an absolute joy to play with. She is a lot of fun once you get used to how she plays and that's part of the problem. If you can get her early game, that will get you used to her strengths and limitations. But if you get her after reaching a high AR, it can be frustrating to try to learn her and most end up ditching her for someone easier to use immediately off the bat. She is definitely someone who benefits from the right support and definitely not someone you use by herself (despite her lore suggesting her being able to take down a certain tanky world boss all by herself). She's fine as is as any tweaks to her could easily put her into "broken" territory. All that said, everything mentioned in the video are valid complaints and anyone interested in rolling for her in any future banners should carefully consider their own gaming abilities before rolling for her.
Klee was my first 5-star and my main dps for 3 months. I was using her from AR 20 to AR 50. At start she was fun to play. Silly hilichurls just run to you, do nothing for a while and get obliterated by Klee charged attacks. You can cancel her CA animation by her CA! Basically, you can achive almonst the same attack speed as her normal attacks!
But later enemies became smarter. You can't stay at one place and hold/release one button to CA. Now you have to run to enemies. There were geo wheels which run everywhere. Then there was Childe, who jumps from place to place. And now there is Inazuma, where every enemy jumps around and you have to run to them and try to charge attack them 2 times before they jump to different location, because you have to wait 1 whole second before charged attack is applied. It was pain.
I pulled for Hutao this october. Now I'm happy
@@SeresHotes25 I overcome this by pairing Klee with Keqing. Enemy steps back, Keqing's skill followed by Klee auto/CA. Works surprisingly well and Keqing's attack creates enough distance to avoid potential blowback from overload. Keqing was a no brainer to use for much of Inazuma so it didn't take long for me to put those two together.
What do u use for her comp?
Yeah I've been playing for a while not regularly and I've had her for so long she is my 2nd or 3rd 5 star and I'm used to her and she is amazing she hit my highest number and it was 22k
So true. My first 5 star was klee. she is small and because of that she doesn't cover alot of ground. her attack range is med and her charge is unfortunately short. but makes senses since its a beam, and a straight shot could miss, and closer range makes it easier to calculate charge attack.
Personally she is still amazing to play, and with Raiden, Zhongli and Kokomi, she is damage overload and invincible.
All Catalysts are hard to play mind you. Kokomi, Yanfei and Ning have auto locked projectiles the others just auto splash. Klee's the only one you need to really aim and get close with but thats the charm of her.
Only gripe I have is burst ends when she is switched out. Would be great if she could keep it on the field. Especially when I do Kokomi burst, that vaporise damage would be great. Along with Overlord for Raiden Burst.
You may find some similar issues when talking about Aloy later on. Waiting around for enemies to carelessly walk over bomblets for only the smallest boost in damage applying cryo to basic attacks for only a few seconds.
Man I love Klee she was my first 5 star and I still main her but there are a lot of problems with her gameplay. This doesn't take my joy away from playing her but I do wish she would get a little boost or something. But I doubt it ... Its sad that Mihoyo is not evolving old characters and are mainly making new power houses every banner :/
I’ve been wondering about this, but I think Razor also deserves a video in this series
IMO, ever since Rosaria and Eula are released, Razor faded into obscurity and I don’t really hear much about him - even less so than Xinyan nowadays
But Razor is still a beast of a 4 star. Just realize that all main dps 4 stars will fall into obscurity. Basically im saying he needs a support option
Yeah, new 5* dps sadly overshadowing all the 4* dps
Yes, but I believe that it is inevitable that some 5 stars and a lot of main dps 4 stars will get overshadowed by new characters. Genshin will have over 80 characters and even more by the time all the nations are released. It would be very hard to make sure every character is popular
Guess you could say Razor never calls anymore...
No 4 star dps character will ever out dps the newer 5 stars. That's the problem with genshin, most people have already played the game enough to stop relying on 4 star main dps characters.
I absolutely adore Klee. I use her in domains and for exploration mostly. She is pretty clunky but you get used to it. She hits like a truck once you get a good artifact set on her and a good 5 star catalyst. I use Yanfei and Ningguang alot as well. I think only Sayu and Diona can rival the adorableness that is Klee. No regrets pulling on her first banner. I love all the goofy noises she makes.
Pulled her by accident at 30 no guarantee, she got my first 12-3 clear and carries Emblem Shimenawa domain.
I put klees artifacts on yanfei and she did more dmg how
@@kittenmimi5326 DPS consistency is much easier to maintain with Yafei. I've got her leveled up deccently but she still can't match Klee since I've spent so much time learning her.
Honestly any character with good artifacts and a good weapon can hit like a truck not just klee
I personally feel the best description for klee is: An extremely powerful pyro dps that has a lot of clunky mechanics making her hard to use which is why not many players use her. Players that have taken the time to fully master her kit however will almost always say that she is amazing and she is. Really the only problem she has is bad player usability.
I play Klee cuz I think the idea of a literal child sending giant Lawachurls flying is absolutely hilarious to me.
Tho honestly, they really should just do a massive homing effect range for Klee's charged attack since her explosives knock enemies back so much. I think that would instantly make her feel much better to play as
klee works really well with the og geo duo (albedo & zhongli) as they cover her biggest weaknesses, range and defence. Everyone knows albedo's flower is nigh useless, but klee is likely the first and most important character to step on the flower. People don't know this but klee's range is literally tied to how high she is, the higher she is the further she throws, charged attack as well. Well the shield also helps a lot when you're not on the flower, well cos she squishy.
thissss
that exact thing happens in albedo's demo lol i think they intended for them to have some synergy
But with longer distance her attacks are more likely to miss, so you're either trying to hit ranged enemies within the flower AoE, or melee enemies right beneath the flower. Also, large enemies like mitachurls will break the elevator flower(the one that goes up) and prevent it from spawning, so it's either a very niche use, or not very useful in the first place.
@@La4geas that's y zhongli is also good with her. If they move away or under her, switch to zhongli to get the shield and you can burst and go down and rip and tear with klee
bro, my Albedo flower does upto 29k every 2s and you say he is bad.
In my opinion the thing holding Klee back from being a top tier main dps is the fact that she is a child character and she depends on her charged attack to deal dmg and the reason why this is bad is because child characters use up more stamina and Klee charged attack uses 50 stamina, and her ultimate isn't that useful compared to others and the passive where she doesn't use stamina in her charged is good but I wish it was more noticeable since its just a tiny flower and if you have your ultimate on it is even harder to see if the passive is on and you also have to time her basic atk perfectly to deal the most dmg
Sorry my English is not that good
And I'm not hating on klee she is my first 5 star
They should've give her a passive similar to Ningguang.
as a klee main none of the problem on the video were important, like not being able to do more than 4 charged atk? klee can delete the charged atk stamina consumption, the only MAIN problem that should be solved is she being small, how is that possible, a character which attacks are mainly bassed on charged being low ranged and also a small unit, why? That is just suffering
@@NFYT Nah, for me it's really the ultimate cancelling when you swap. I can't effectively do my rotations when I ult.
@@NFYT Honestly even that is not a problem for me, being another Klee main.
I just always somehow group enemies together then stay close to them. Cancelling through dodge (!), stamina doesn't run out as quickly if I just don't always cancel or use her skill in between and when it runs out I switch to a different character, preferably Kazuha who can then deal loads of damage pulling all enemies back together including all the bombs on the floor. Meanwhile stamina recovers. After that, the other two characters can maybe also put out their skills, whichever they are and Klee is good to go again with loads of stamina.
Her charged attacks can be cancelled, she has built in stamina cost reduction with her passive and the knockback can even be a benefit when you use it to juggle large mobile enemies.
I just want her burst to stay on the field. She would be a top tier support!
Klee main here, I've been playing her since november last year, I really enjoy playing with her, and she might be the best character I currently have, but the problems you said are really common and relatable aside from being really squishy, and even if she needs a hell lot of supports to really shine, she hits really, really hard. Hoping more people give her a chance
I wish I had Klee. That's why I don't use her :(
As a Klee main, you're right
As a Kaeya main who got Klee on her first banner I agree. Klee is a really fun character to play but often I would miss my charged attacks because of how clunky her animation is and the same problem that you also mentioned she is really squishy
i got her just to have and have fun with her, i won't be learning the necessary skills to main her but she is just too adorable to not have
Saaame, I ain't bothering with her janky animation cancel on mobile, but I'm still gonna be playing her because little kid cute
@@GiGitteru same. My Klee is fully build and I like to use her but I'm not interested in learning the cancle animation and all that stuff. My Klee i's good enough to be used in most domains and boss fights so I stick to that and use other characters in spiral abyss instead. (That being said with Bennett or Diona on the same team I still sometimes end up using Klee for floor 9 and 10.)
@@GiGitteru I don't have klee yet, but this is why i want her! She's adorable af!
I play her with albedo ,noelle(well I don't have zhongli but noelle is really strong and she can heal so it's good enough) and bennet ,just use noelle shield and her short range never been a problem for me to keep burning everything lol .plus bennet heal from burst and crystalized shield from albedo skills, she's invincible.
Thank you so much for this video! It was very illustrative and well made. I use Klee as my main dps and I was not aware of some of the downsides you kindly pointed out. I guess I just get used to it and love her anyways 😅
Klee doesn't apply pyro that fast. She just has icd on every second auto attack like every catalyst user. Can be best seen on Sucrose how it works.
2:39 Correction: Kokomi also falls under the long range auto homing projectile category, not scan shot
He probably mixed it up because Kokomi has both, as her charged attack is instant, but her normal attacks aren't
This is how I'd fix while changing as little as possible :
1. Give her a 10-15% attacks speed and attack range on her NA , CA and elemental skill
2. Make her burst stick after you swap off of her and have the C4 nuke happen when the duration ends
If this happened, Klee role would be shifted into a Support Damage Dealer like Mona
Not denying the fact that it will be really great, but quite Broken in the same page😂
Lost prayer passive raise the attack speed 10%
the CA has a lot more range than it shows on screen
@@Sakata09Gintoki I was more so saying to raise her attacks speed innately
I think what she needs is a character that synergies well with her like Hydro or Cyro Xiangling(I want 2nd Rosaria), No one can apply pyro as fast as she does.
Thank you, i have been complaining about the short range battle with klee despite her being a catalist and rather squishy. I hope they will do something like rework her charge attack since her auto attack and skill is already a short range ability
Thanks for the video! It's very informative, and very useful for people like me considering whether to pull her or not, now I understand more about her kit :D
Im playing with klee, sure her dmg isn’t as good as hu tao but, she’s my first 5* character so im never gonna stop playing klee
Had the same mentality but i dont even use pyro characters beside bennett and yoimiya now, mainly because i dont want to farm the witch 4pc set as its 1 of those sets in the domains with the bad artifact 5* alongside it.
1 day ill use klee tho if i get a 5* catalyst that works for her
@@Darkerooz Klee is super ok to use the Wanderer 4-pieces set, but yea i agree with you with Genshin Impact farming for artifacts is all a pain.
I actually still use her as a main DPS since her rerun during the Golden Apple Archipelago event.
same!
same
Me too! I've been maining her ever since
You can animation cancel by holding forward and using normal attacks in between. Klee can throw almost two bombs per second this way
Loving your analysis in this series so much!!
klee requires actual practice in order to be enjoyable, for me it has that charm on its own,
not everything should be unga bunga on a game that is already particularly easy to begin with.
As a Klee main since her first banner, actually, Klees sinergy with mona is amazing, you can ult with mona, then swap to klee and use her ult, wait a bit before using autos or E and her ult will apply pyro, so when the ult bubble explodes, it deals MASSIVE vape damage
not just that, she can also synergise very well with venti because she can hit things in his vortex. i don't think she's "bad", she just needs to be played properly.
exactly I love using mona with klee, she’s not bad to play you just need to learn it well
@@mariaritalcaide people see a character that requires more than three braincells to operate and they think that they're bad.
@@niajoby4973 I don't think people automatically think she's bad just because she's more challenging to play. Throwing everyone under the bus just because they can't really be arsed to jump through hoops isn't a valid way to justify her. Ease of use is not an invalid issue. If a character is difficult to use, you expect to get a great reward for doing so; So if that reward isn't there, people are gonna try out other characters.
She's a character that needs help (all characters do to some degree) but she doesn't have a sub-dps or support that can hold her hand and make her shine the way she deserves. I'd love to see a sub-dps that can apply their effects on every single Klee 'Sparks 'n Splash' attack, or if they let elemental reactions proc more often but deal less damage, to help out characters that are based around these 'death by a thousand cuts' kind of dps.
This also applies to Ayaka; No one specifically focuses on her her auto-attacks for damage. Her burst is what people focus on, because the small and flittering attacks don't melt fast enough.
She's not underutilized because she's a bad character. Neither is Keqing. The game just doesn't seem built around the way they dps, punishing 'death by a thousand cuts' play styles, meanwhile press Q to win burst effects or large slow chunky attacks just seem to win; See Xiao... or Ganyu... or Hu Tao.
@@Doofindork the death by a thousand cuts thing is real, I agree about that. i should have clarified that some people think that way not everyone.
I wanted Klee since day 1 i started to play in 1.3, i simply love her personality, even more than dmg. It is true that overtime her clunkyness became more apparent so she lost spot as a true main dps, and, as my character pool grew, Klee turned into a more situational pick, but the same can be said about any character really...
I remember a while ago, we had a event with a mechanical array boss that i struggled with, no metter the party i used, turns out Klee clutched 4 me and it was great! No matter what i will always find situations to use her simply cus she is one of my top 3 fav enven if cluncky... Now that i have a good xinqiu and Daddy Geo Zhongli i will experiment even more with my baby bomber XD
Thanks to you I'm able to understand the flaws of her playstyle which also helps me understand how to overcome. Keep rocking 🤘
Title: Why NO ONE Plays: Klee
Me, a Klee Main: And I took that personally
Klee is my only Pyro DPS and I love her, she does a lot of damage and has great burst damage with Widsith.
She does need an artifact set that works with her. and her Burst needs to last off-field.
Her autos are really not that bad since you should do your N1 then charge, that is the best combo since her charge gets a big buff from her passive.
Very true my friend i do one skill and the enemy are dead just who should i do autos too 🔥 btw u can jump cancel alsi its not hard its like 2 auto then jump and start over
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Widsith is just insane.
R5 widsith Klee will do more damage than WGS Diluc
But that is widsith being op not klee
shimenawa works pretty well on her.
You got no choice.
I've been playing since release and pulled Klee on her first banner. I have her fully built with a 5* weap and good artifacts. But I honestly haven't used her in months now because other teams comps can do the same thing for a lot less effort, like Xiangling + Bennet + Hydro
I remember the quest dungeon with Klee, she was kind of a unique character, a pyro bomb thrower with minefield laying capabilities. Definitely one of Mihoyo's more experimental characters in terms of gameplay design. That being said, I have a Yanfei, and I think overall she's a more straightforward and easy to use Pyro catalyst user.
She's got a unique kit that's a bit clunky and I feel like she needs a different team setup/playstyle than most meta characters. I run her with fischl, albedo/Diona, and Sayu and it's a amazing team for bursting large groups.
Where Qiqi?
@@nguyenluong2727 Diona> Qiqi
@@nguyenluong2727 Diona for Shielding for Klee since she needs extra protection
The answer is quite simple of Why No One plays Klee:
-She's Monstadt's local terrorist
-Destroyer of Fishkind
-Ruined Bennett's friendship with Royce with the random explosion she caused mistaking it for a rabbit hole which was Royce's last straw, causing him to part ways with Bennett. Which means she is also Destroyer Of Rabbitkind. I mean I kinda didn't mind fish but rabbits?!? That's where I draw the line g.
Do I need to elaborate further on Why No One Plays Her?
(It's just a joke bros. I actually love Klee quite a lot. And if she has a rerun, I willl try to claim her. One of my favourite charcters since the dawn of Genshin Impact)
How dare y-
Oh. It's a joke. ok
Why are listing all of her best qualities?
@@ShadeLightTheory the video already provided her "bad qualities"
Back in 1.0, I got Klee as my first 5 star and QUICKLY leveled her up to 90. I had a BLAST (no pun intended) playing with my little terrorist, and two years later I still love her
I just pulled Klee, and she's somewhat tricky to learn but incredibly powerful in her own right. I will say partnering her with Yelan and activating both bursts is AWESOME.
You know if they just made her ult stay on field when she's off I don't even think she'd need any buffs people could just run her with EOSF
I play Klee precisely because of her gameplay (and that she's cute af). Mastering Klee has been the most enjoyable thing for me in this game.
I wouldn't even be playing Genshin if not for Klee.
Though the fact that the bug regarding her passive for a free charged attack has existed since her release still annoys me. Simple fix to just change it so it "restores" the 50 stamina instead of just making the charge attack free. The fact you can get a free charge and consume it at the same time and still consume stamina as a result is just bad devs.
i knew i recognised that dapper applebloom profile pic, i saw your comments frequently on derpibooru like 6 years ago? hope you're doing well lol
I've been using Klee for most of my genshin playing experience andddd I've honestly haven't been using her ultimate because of how often I switch characters. I always wished her movements were a bit faster and less clunky. I wish they would do the minor improvements on her to make her easier to play and more enjoyable as a 5 star
I think Dendro's introduction requires a revisiting of this video. The properties that made her unusable as a DPS in the past makes her an amazing Burgeon trigger. And since level and EM are the only important factors for damage, her mini bombs cause the same damage as her main bomb. A lot of things that usually matter don't for Burgeon. If anything, her mini bombs are a bonus because you can control later pyro applications and have enemies or cores set them off without you needing to. I find her easier to use than other preferred options like Xiangling or Thoma. Especially since Xiangling's buffs don't do much here and only she needs to devote stats to ER unlike Klee.
I got Klee since her initial run and also she is my first 5* char. After training somewhat amount, she is pretty well serviceable. Actually my most biggest single strike dmg was done by Klee since I don't have big bad nukes. However since Inazuma came out, she can't take much space in my party. These Samurai, Dogos, and mostly Specters are so much harder for Klee to hit. Her bombs cannot reach that well. It was unfortunate for Klee. I love her and also her movement are pretty unique and challenging. You will have fun.
i kept klee in my team for most of inazuma (until i got itto) and i died a little bit on the inside every time i saw a specter
How strange, it makes it easier for me to kill the spectra with klee, of course with the burs, this added to the synergy that perma burs always has, making the spectra child's play, very easy to kill with Klee.
Klee was my first 5 star character too :)
use CC characters and she'll be fine :) she works well with kazuha.
@@user-fr7id7pu6o Comparing other dps like Ayaka/Ganyu, Klee is very underwhelming. Ganyu can take aim shot from range which is easier especially with Spectres since Venti cannot pull them up. Ayaka also has Freeze. So even I put Zhongli on the team, Klee get some troubles. Like I said, dmg not a problem for Klee, but to hit constantly.
As someone who’s mained Klee for awhile in a team with Kazuha, Raiden, and Zhongli, I was a little surprised to see this video pop up. But when you brought up her range and normal attack, I totally understood. When I used to have Barbara as my main support, she could easily hit the Hilichurl archers on their unclimbable towers with both her normal attack and charged, making things a lot faster and easier for me. But I noticed Klee’s attacks don’t really work the same way. Still, even after I get Itto and Gorou, I will probably still use her often, because the whole reason I wanted her for so long was that I just really liked her character. Her working with Kazuha and Raiden’s skills + Zhongli eliminating squishness in battle was all just a bonus.
i main klee with kazuha, raiden and zhongli too
@@putausername9489 Apparently it’s a good team. I didn’t even realize I just assembled them by accident gradually and noticed how good it was.
@@nekoprankster2184 i was just trying some team combos and made this one up too, but they work so goog together
Klee mains unite! lol I've had her since her first banner and though I don't use her as often as I once did, she will forever be one of my mains and I'll never bench her. I just love her too much to do that.
Even though she has some clear disadvantages she'll always be that cute little chaotic bean that we all love, she's also a very fun character to play as... Sure she takes a bit more effort to deal a lot of damage, but I'll always have a space for her in my heart ♥️ She's the first 5 star character I got and I've always wanted her so I went absolutely bonkers when I got her xD
One of the reasons I like Klee in my World Map team and my Ruin Serpent team is that she makes mining and breaking shields etc super easy. Irons break in one charged attack and crystals in two. I use her as a sub DPS in world map just for that and her passive making it easier to collect flowers and shrooms in mondstrat. She is rather clunky to play though, and I wish they made her character a bit better in that regard.
I pulled a Klee on her first banner, I agree with almost all observations: the sole exception is her stamina issues, which she has none since one of her passives makes it so that you get a floating clover thingie every so often by normal attacking that is consumed in a charge attack instead of her stamina, similar to Ningguang.
Her biggest issue is no doubt the combination of her puny range, bad animations (feel similar to the alternative dash for those that know) and how squishy she is, if 1 or 2 of these didn't exist, she'd feel much better to play and less like you're fighting the game engine.
And for Raiden.....her burst still needs to work with Beidou's burst, that is simply utter bullcrap.
I remember how clunky the alternate sprint was before the change in the patch ayaka was released in. They still didnt fix the part where you get stuck if theres a slight elevation difference though which sucks. But the alt sprint feels a lot better now, it's more fluid and feels faster when dodging.
Hit the nail on the head, Klee would have worked wonders as a 5 Star Pyro version of Xinqiu.
Making her a main DPS is doubly odd since, beside her kit screaming Sub DPS, she was released very early on at a time where we already had another 5 Star Pyro Carry.
Pulled for her in 1.6 because she's just adorable, but in hindsight I regret not waiting for Kazuha.
I never liked Diluc, and since I got diluc c1 and c2 in Kazuha and Raiden banner made me hate him even more lol
@@khuongle2400 I can empathize. Got a C2 Qiqi.
imagine how broken she would be if her burst works off-field? I mean, Xingqiu and Klee together????
one of the things that i see as a future indirect buff to klee is the player use of dendro. like the stacking of EM and other things with the shear amount of pyro output is asking for some intense pyro output that can also be stack a bit different just from a theory standpoint from our ingame examples of dendro samachuarls and enveiroments
Ever since i started i started the game, ive wanted klee. She was cute, and since no other character interested me at the time, i kept on having the courage and determination to save for the day she comes back again
now im happy with a lvl90 klee
I mean klee was my first 5 star. Shes level 90 and has a skyward atlas. Shes my main dps. I can understand that shes hard to use. You have to be careful when you’re using her charge attack. Make sure to always jump while doing it, it gives extra dmg. If you built her as a dps like me focus on her charged attack and E and don’t focus a lot on her Q. Her Q is moreof a support ability. Heres some good team comps:
-Sucrose,Rosaria,diona(4* so it’s easier to get)
-Kazuha,Rosaria,kokomi(5* that are good supports for any team)
-Venti(basically any crowd control),Bennet,xingque(meta but helps her do bigger dmg)
Klee isn’t really a good overload dmg, its best to focus on vaporize and melt reactions. Artifacts sets , Gladiators and crimson witch /4 piece crimson witch are probably the best sets for good dmg.
the jump doesn't give extra damage, it is used to animation cancel out of attacks
@@LittleSparklingStars which therefore gives more dps
i thought traveler was your first 5 star…
@@kamuikirby6886 technically
Then there's me who pairs Klee with Raiden for overload spam XD
One of the things that stood out to me is that Klee can stagger enemies with her charged attack the same way overload does. It cancels the enemy's attack and stuns them for a bit. That, I think, is the game mechanic that could make her so much more interesting.
With Klee's rapid pyro application, it allows for an overload-focused build that rapidly blows up and staggers enemies. Paired with her CA stagger, makes up for her low HP and DEF.
The fix with KB I feel isn't to remove it, but rather to knock enemies upwards instead of backwards. Thus, overload teams and charged attackers don't have to waste stamina and it enables poise-shredding strats (like overload/electro-charged) to become as useful as pure damage ones.
eh consider the stamina too, you can only have 240 max stamina as of now and catalysts have 50 CA stamina cost + she has very short legs which means she has to dash to chase the enemies. so no it doesn't do her good. dmg wise yes, gameplay satisfaction no.
@@warrencaelum9536 Stamina management would be easier if explosions and Overload knocked enemies upwards instead of backwards (as I said), since enemies would be stunned and you wouldn't need to dodge, and if you already have them grouped in front of you, then you wouldn't need to chase them down since they are staying in the same horizontal positon.
Still, I agree that CA stamina cost is pretty awful considering Klee's short stature.
Even though her attack speed may be slow, she is very good for using her charged attack and her mines. I use her primarily for those as she's my sub-DPS, I think they make up for that. If I want to use normal attack, I'd rather use my DPS. The mines come in handy very often though... (use Ganyu's charged after hitting enemy with pyro)
edit: I have a lot of characters but my main team is Noelle, Klee, Kazuha//Kequing and Ganyu. Not super popular but it really works well
I've been Playing klee long enough to know that she doesn't really need reaction to get the job done, you just ANY proc-on-hit related unit to support her and there we go, albedo, xingqiu, beidou, raiden are all pretty good.. they are not meant to help klee using elemental reaction but rather, simply easier to trigger them to dish out straight up dmg.. she feels like a unit can function as dps if you want to but best play in sub dps position to support another sub dps to proc the element.. weird design
I am kinda sad for klee, well atleast she did had her glory days in early days of genshin.
Klee, Keqing, Diluc and Tartaglia had their glory days before dethroned by the Big Three of Liyue, Eula, and the entire Inazuma Characters
@@calvinalexander6572 tartaglia is still meta in his national team composition. If you check online for the strongest meta team Childe national comp is in first position followed by Raiden national and other meta teams like Morgana/mona-ayaka, eula-raiden etc.
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Klee is by far my favorite character to play, the animation cancels are incredibly satisfying and machine-gunning her normal attacks is very powerful. It takes a while to get used to playing her but the muscle memory stays with you when you get the hang of it.
About her synegy with others for quick reactions, ayato just came out and ayaka came out before that, both of the siblings alts have high attack speed, if you incorporate them with the shogun as a battery and then sucrose to bring attacks together and you get a fast speed reaction machine
As someone who's been using her in abyss since she came out, the best team to use her in is mono-pyro team with one anemo that's not venti, bennett, and xiangling. It's pretty crazy how good it is and it never falls off in any abyss lmao
Klee, Aloy, Jean and Rosaria is one of my favourite team comps.
Teleport behind enemies you’ve thrown bombs at with Rosaria, pick up and launch all the bombs with Jean
You also have high single shot damage with Aloy Q, great mob clear with Klee’s Q, and 2 rift characters to double down on your safe space with Cryo resonance for extra crit
Mono Pyro is really bad because Pyro is only one who can do tons of DMG with reaction like Melt and vao which Litterly increases DMG by 1.5 and 2.0 and overload
@@ayameren6579 Have you tried it tho? If not, just check out a couple runs I decided to upload randomly on my channel.
Btw all those reactions are not good for Klee. For melt and vape, she applies pyro way too fast for any supports available. So it'll just be your supports that proc those reaction. For overload, it knocks enemies away, hurting your dps and further eat away the stamina
Agreed, except I use Klee with Benny, Xiangling, and Kazuha. Investing into a monoteam means you can opt for damage-focused artifacts + weapons across the board because the energy regeneration is so great. Benny's E + Klee's two charges of E and charged attack battery from ascension talent generates so much pyro energy. Also, because there isn't a need to set up reactions, it's super easy to play being forgivable with rotations and less downtime if you screw up any rotations. Additionally, because Klee's ult can snapshot, you can get huge gains from Benny ult and Widsith. What's needed to play this comp optimally is: 1) Have Kazuha swirl pyro, 2) Have enough energy to ult off cooldown, and 3) Snapshot XL and Klee's ults.
The team may not have the highest damage ceiling, but has a comfortably high damage floor that's more than enough to 9* abyss 12 (kazuha makes it more meta as well)
@@ayameren6579 its good for klee. having three pyro units and klee's passive immensely help xiangling's energy issue and it allows klee to effectively use her burst which often has to be sacrificed in vape comps to avoid applying too much pyro for xingqiu to keep up. xiangling's burst also covers klee's weakness which is targets that get out of her CA range. the team's competitive as shown by iwintolose.
What happened to her exactly happened to Herrscher of the Void in Honkai Impact. When Klee came out there weren’t any OP choices like Ganyu, Hu Tao, Itto, Childe or anything like them. So Klee was automatically the strongest option, which was in the case of Honkai since there are no other Overpowered Valkyries aside from HoV. So as soon as more fleshed-out and new characters joined in the fray, the slowly they got dethroned. Back in the old day when I wasn’t a Honkai player HoV was fucking everywhere, just as Klee in Genshin, she was the talk of the town.
There was some Abyss rotations that still encourage player to play HoV. But yea, she's kinda out of meta for years now.
Still very useful for fast clearing easy stages I guess.
9:42 I really agree with this. Back then, I begged for Mihoyo on their surveys to make her burst lasts even after switching her. I think she would be a meta, even overpowering xiangling, for reverse vaporize or melt teams. Her fast pyro application would definitely keep up with fast cryo and hydro applicators like ayato, ayaka, and childe.
this could be solved if the community brings it up (including cn), but I guess I should learn to accept the fact that she's now forgotten.
As the caretaker of a C4 Klee, I appreciate these videos. This is like the fifth one I've seen in your series, and I love that they're less "this character is suboptimal in the meta", and more "this character is suboptimal to the desires of players".
Klee was a fan favorite though. She had crazy sales
only because the game blew up during her banner. that's why her rerun flopped
her rerun flopped hard tho
of course she was. her banner was literally the second banner ever AND it coincided with GI blowing up in the media. there was nothing else to spend money on, ppl didn't have any other characters to compare her to (because even those that pulled for venti realized how meta he is WEEKS after his banner ended). it was a new gacha game, and klee's banner was pretty much the only thing you could pull on at the time (besides the standard banner, because back then ppl still spent their primos on it).
yes, she was strong as hell at launch, but the enemies too were much squishier. yes, she's cute, but there are characters that have much more depth to them (even counting the ones that didn't appear in the story much), and klee's character story relies heavily on other characters around her doing smth, because she's still, ultimately, a child. her rerun didn't do much even with ppl thinking kazuha will suck (idk if you were around kazuha leaks era, but the comments were full of ppl saying "I'll pull for him even if he's weak").
essentially, klee did well in a vacuum - as literally any other character would.
I wished for klee instead of saving for kazuha during her rerun, definitely the mistake I regret the most
Same but my mistake was skipping him for ayaka
@@denro3983 Ayaka is REALLY good though
I skipped him for Klee and I don't regret it tbh. But it seems like theres soon gonna be a rerun for him so good luck pulling for him!
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Same but last minute i decided to skip klee for yoimiya, who i then skipped for kokomi lmaoo
For one, I agree that her charged shot should be allowed to hit further the longer it’s held. Could make it feel like you’re aiming a cannon! I also agree that her basic attack would benefit greatly from being sped up to have a better rate of fire. She enjoys bombs and has made them a life passion! Surely she would have eventually been able to throw them more quickly at some point, right?
The only change I would want for her would be to allow sparks and splash to keep going even after she’s been switched out. I actually thought she could do that originally, and I feel kinda cheated that it doesn’t work that way.
Lastly, just for vindictive funsies, at C6 it should be that anytime you switch out while Sparks and Splash is active causes an explosion! Because BOMBS!
Klee has been part of my team ever since I got her on her first banner. I’ve found that she shines most in a quick swapping team, swap into her, apply pyro/use jumpty, switch to your main dps, do a couple attacks, switch to another character, apply their element, switch back to Klee and repeat.
@@blep7943 I run a few different teams but the one I keep coming back to is a physical dps qiqi, beidou, xingqiu, and Klee. I basically just keep beidou and xingqius burst up and quick swap between Klee and qiqi back and forth with the occasional beidou switch to counter attacks and generate electro particles.
Klee was my first event 5* character and I tried so hard for so long to make her work but I just couldn't no matter what role I used he in, personally I would absolutely call her a bad character, maybe not objectively bad,, but her only slightly redeeming feature is damage. However even half the footage playing during the video is just Klee desperately running in circles trying to find an opening to actually play the game since everything she does so slow and clunky.
i agree
12:56 this has been a problem for quite some time. A lot of people call new units garbage, one month later they realize that particular unit is actually really strong, and then they proceed to want a rerun of that character. Tbh, I don't even know why such thing occurs in the first place and when it begun, but it's quite disturbing.
it’s cool seeing the shortcomings in Klee laid out like this bc i’m a Klee main, but i’ve subconsciously build my main party around all of these downsides to make her viable.
i use Klee, C6 fischl, kazuha, and then a flex slot healer.
for me, this creates an insane overloaded party with kazuha grouping everything together and hitting all the mines at once.
it works, and i’ve invested a lot of time into the party, but everything said in the video still holds true- Klee does need the range, and a buffed charge attack since controlling the battlefield is hard with her when she pushes everything away.
all in all, cool video. i clicked on this thinking i’d be a little salty about how much rang true, but i’m not. it’s well said and really well laid out
Also when you went over the catalyst homing part at the beginning you mentioned ningguang & yanfei, but kokomi’ auto attacks also home
The way I can see MHY fixing Klee issue (she is my main btw) is to add character that synergies with her like off-field hydro or cyro dmg in bulk (Hydro or Cyro Xiangling if possible) because no one can apply pyro as fast as she does. Kaeya and Rosaria work well with her but Kaeya ult has ICD so it's not ideal
But what you suggest isn't fixing what is wrong with the character(klee) because if you add another support character where klee could benefit, do remember so does the other pyro dps characters which makes it completely useless for klee
@@somerandomguy6249 yeah, it's like adding a support to fix diluc's weaknesses... it's will just be used by everyo other pyro meta unit instead
Klee is my absolute favourite character. I got her on her rerun when I was ar 10 and she's still in my team.
She definitely has some problems in her kit but I've found ways to circle around them. I love her gameplay that I triple crowned her and level 90 right now. (Currently waiting for a 5* weapon for her)
In the end it depends on the preferences of the players and most seem to dislike Klee's gameplay, but I hope they don't hate Klee herself.
Peace,
From a Klee main.
An increase on aoe size across her whole kit and the burst staying up when switching would easily make her great and fix most of her problems maybe reduce the stamina cost of her charge attack and give a slight increase to attack speed
I have klee, (still wanting to build her to the point of being viable in abyss, but for now, she has to wait) and i just feel that she was released too soon. The world of teywat isnt ready for her, untill a support with equal capabiliies comes out. I really hope that at one point, there will be a time when a cryo support with too much cryo aplication comes out, and klee will suddenly become super viable. (Ayaka sorta achieves that, but its still not enough cryo to cover every hit)
Btw, Genshin elemental reactions have an internal cooldown where elements can only be applied and reacted every so often. I think generally it’s 2.5 seconds. So no amount of incredibly fast hydro application could allow Klee to vaporize all her damage. Some characters do have abilities with no internal cooldown, such as Hu Tao’s charged attack, so if Klee had something like that it would help- maybe each of her bombs could always apply pyro?
Klee charge and jumpty dumpty has no icd
It’ll be better if a cryo/hydro xiangling where to come out i think
i think they dont have icd
as a former klee main, the pain of trying to animation cancel stressed me out more than building her. its fun to play her but its inconvenient when it comes to abyss
Usually I wait for her spark which 50% chance to appear iirc from normal attack, her E and mine damage hit, to do charge atk like her passive state. No stamina consume with 50% more damage on her charge atk. You will not had stamina issue when doing charge attack if you make habit using charge atk when her spark appear, using her with Zhongli most probably help her with her clunky movement and attack animation .
She is just a precious little sunshine baby. Besides how can anyone be mad at this precious little bean? 💗😇🌸