Racing Esports has a MAJOR problem…
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The journey from Racing Esports to racing in real life is tough. While there are many examples of success stories, the probabilities are low, but hopefully this video gets your brain working about the steps to head in the right direction. I'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments!
Thanks to @SuellioAlmeida and @collinspork8553 for allowing me to interview them! Both are incredible drivers, and I highly recommend checking them both out!
I mentioned @Jaaames in the intro. He's a very talented content creator and driver, so I'll drop his GoFundMe here: www.gofundme.com/f/JamesBaldwin
My iRacing Referral Link: (much appreciated)
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0:00 The Topic
1:03 Esports Challenges
5:49 Esports To IRL
9:47 The Money
11:56 My Solution
#f1 #esports #gaming
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As an Esports driver, what do you think is the best funding mechanism to generate sponsorship for IRL racing?
I would go the karting route but if not just look at how successful Jimmy Broadbent is .
I would say If you can start a youtube channel thats a good low key way to start getting noticed. Just be consistant on uploads and you should slowly start to grow.
First of all, improve our skill. Then, try and get noticed through social media. That’s actually how Nicholas Hamilton (lewis’ bro) got noticed. He was fast on sims and some Team noticed him and hired him.
1. Bringing mass/big audience like Jimmy. But that takes time and much more. It won't be for everyone. For those who do this, it can help sustain a career assuming sustaining mass audience.
2. Contacts/relationships to help generate B2B deals. Quickest way into a car, if you have the connections. But also very hard and not easily sustained. Tough for a teenager, for example, to have accrued the network and business relationships/acumen to pull this off.
@@samkelly4117 karting isn't a funding mechanism. :)
IRL racing is the ultimate pay to win
pay to play
So is irl raceing
You as the driver shouldn’t be the one who pays if everything goes well..
@@rolux4853 99% of all driver pay for their seats, they get offers from teams but they are still required to give sponsor money
That’s why 99% of the IRL drivers come from wealthy families. Imagine how much more talented the best drivers could be if the barrier for entry wasn’t dictated by wealth.
Great content as ALWAYS! Honor to be in the video!
Thanks for the insight, Suellio!
@@CameronDasRacing npc conversation lmao
I'd very much like to see more content like this. I've liked all forms of racing my whole life and never had a way to get into it until I built my computer and iracing got on my radar. Now I've been iracing for a little over a year while putting my setup together (still a work in progress) and learning to be as competitive as possible. I still have a long way to go and your videos help along with being inspirational. Keep it up man!
Man, this video really gave me hope...I don't think I have ever been more motivated than before! Thank you!
You wont make it
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To be fair to Liam Lawson, he was only like 15 or 16 years old when Fraga and him raced. Since then, he has beaten current F1 drivers Yuki in TRS and Albono in DTM with the same car while being younger too. They were at different stages of their career.
Edit, *3 current F1 drivers, Logan Sargent with a POS Carlin car in F2 while being younger too.
I am studying Esports Business at the moment in Kajaani University of Applied Sciences and this topic for me as an small channel content creator and simracer is a good one! Although I believe that esport careers are not so long when you are competing. But the business all around one career is huge! You really need to know how to market yourself to get a chance of IRL racing.. I´ve done about 50 rally events as a co-driver, but it is nothing compared to that if you want to be IRL driver in motorsport!
Thanks for the video Cameron! Keep up the good work!
Hey Cameron, i love your content, and i have a quesiton wich id like to know the answer, what camera do you use in your karting videos? The one that shows g forces and speed. I would be thankful if you answer 😊
Sick video bro💯
Great informative insight, enjoyed seeing your perspectives
another solid video. Man I would do some shady stuff to drive a Praga... Jimmy if you're listening... but for my journey I am hoping the content creation gets me some visibility. I recently filmed SRO Indy and put out content for the irl race as well as plenty of POV sim content. SRO was hosting an invitational esports event at the PRI show in Indy in a couple weeks and I put my name in for a seat as an influencer but everything went cold :(
Everybody wants to talk about how Cem Bolukbasi got opportunities via esports, but nobody wants to talk about how those phone calls ended with "so that'll be €XXX,XXX."
also, nobody talks about how he was racing IRL before and after eSports
Wasn't he racing motocross before esports, right?
@@CameronDasRacing quick wiki search says he raced in GT4 before eSports and switched to karting in 2007, aged 9
Yes GT4
@@CameronDasRacing Sounds about right - go way back on his Insta and you'll see him testing what looks like an F4 car in 2015.
I'm fine with all of it, as long as people know his Esports-borne opportunities came with a price tag. I don't want some kid's head to be filled with dreams that he'll make it from nothing to F1 if he wastes his life in a Playseat, at least not until we have more things like World's Fastest Gamer (but are concrete, consistent, and give long-lasting support to their drivers.)
For IRL racing you need more connects than money since if you a license, you're decent and people know, they might pick you up for a race if something happens to the regular lineup or if a driver that you're coaching needs a extra driver for those endurance gt or wec tournaments.
Hey Cameron,
I'm a similar age to when you did your first race in the F2000 car, and my dad and I are building a track car. I'm old enough for my SCCA full competition license, but I have zero racing experience other than a few rental kart races, so I would need to go to a racing school. Would you recommend I do some rental kart leagues, or some sim racing, or a mixture of both until I can apply for a racing school? Thanks in advance!
Sim racing skills have proven to transfer. Sim racing will accelerate your progress in a real race car. Must do. The dollar goes much further than karts. Only you know your budget, so you'll need to decide whether the spend on karts makes sense for you, as well.
Great video , love the content
Regarding the GT World Challenge you must differentiate: The onsite Events where "real" Championship points can be won is a race where the irl racers compete in the simulator. So unless the real life racer has simracing experience (like Baldwin for example in the Spa event), there is nothing much an esports driver can do, apart from offering coaching to the drivers.
Ofcourse it is a great insentive for the teams to hire esports drivers, and some teams are indeed doing that. But in the end it is still depending on the budget and the sponsors, the drivers have to offer.
I started from sim racing (AC & iRacing) when I was 16. Eventually started karting when I was 18. I left school and got a full-time job, allowing me to race in competitive owner-driver-karting championships and events. Eventually also did club-level car racing driving an M235i and an M4 against the likes of TCR's. The trouble I see with both sim racers and IRL drivers is they all want to make it to the top and they put everything into it (Like Cameron mentioned from fitness to social life). Don't get me wrong, I was this person having always been at the sharp end of the grid really believing this could be me. But it's just not sustainable without the cash and resources. A friend of mine even ended up racing British F3 having, put his family home on re-mortgage he even won a race or two, but wasn't enough and nothing came of it. I think this is why eSports is a great alternative to IRL. But if it's anything I've taken away. Is regardless of how you're progressing. Just enjoy every second of it because at the end of the day, drivers race because it's fun af and you don't realise what you have until it's gone. Everyone forgets this and it does need reminding, otherwise, people lose interest and give up because they "Didn't make it"
Hey cameron love the content. I was wondering if u could make a video on how to develop a setup for the fastest lap times and how to counteract time loss. If you can thanks alot
Been wanting to do a video about this! Will definitely but it on the schedule!
No rush. Thanks
I would like to ask for your advice, I am thinking about buying a sim for myself. so that I can participate in events online and go further in the sim world. should I take this step or not.
I found u on insta. Good video man. I sim race with no goals only to compete in the moment.
when did you start indor eletric karting?
I have tried sim racing for a bit when I was younger but I do want to race in esports. But I do want to try real-life racing in sports car racing in a local racing series, I have a car that I am building to race in it. I prefer sports car racing like GT over Formula so I would rather focus on games that focus on sports cars.
in the intro montage does anyone know what wheel that was ?
Is karting (OK, KZ) an option for IRL racing?
IRL Racing isn't professional except for a few handful events and because of that the bar of entry is insanely high, your not going to start anywhere near that if you transfer from Esports, 95% of racing categories are entirely pay to play and it's very expensive to even play.
I think companies like Fanatec and Logitech need to bite some of the cost.
These sim drivers market their products and services by doing what they do its only right that they pay it forward.
Look how much these companies price gouge every piece of hardware. Fanatec legitimately sponsors GT world.
Great video bro
In Germany the ADAC has a E-Sport and real live GT3 League (called DTM)
We do it different. Luckily :)
But yeah real life sports plus gatekeeping will always stay together.
DTM is dead, it's barely surviving as is.
hi das I'm entering a competition to race in f4 can you give me tips on funding and what to expect I do lots of karting so what do you think i should do to become a better irl drive. please respond
What competition?
@@quinnlefeveracing rokit f4 i think its for british people only and the age range is 14-16 years old
Cameron, you can make some money going pro in GTs and Sportscars, you have the talent for it, I can tell.
There's a reason why Le Mans is growing, and that's because drivers who can't go to F2, go to LMP2 instead.
@0:47 gave me Rasmussen v Ronhaar flashbacks.
My goal is to make a jump from a hardcore sim racing setup to racing license to winning the 24 hours of Le Mans with my own hypercar team in the wec. Also Cameron, what sim racing games would you recommend for Xbox one? I started sim racing 4 months ago and wan to know what games I should spend time on?
Xbox is very hard with good sims. I would recommend Assetto corsa or Project Cars but the sooner you can transition from Xbox to PC the better.
@@Chinese_Evan thank you for the advice. I already play project cars 3 and I like to test my endurance on the game.
lmao
Nice content!
Great video Cameron !
I am motivated so much man I am 14 years old right now wait me in the IRL! 😉
Dont try to earn money in Motorsports industry to fund your racing.
Earn money somewhere else, use Sim one of the training platform and put the real money into racing in the right way.
As yoy said, as long as anything relates to real life racing, time is the most scarce resource.
Well said
I'm just glad sims have gotten so good I can enjoy my dream of being a (pretend) racing driver from my bedroom. I will never have the funding nor the talent to be a RL racing driver but it's okay.
Hello man ur my racing idol
I've always wondered why pro esports drivers don't attempt to drive in a series that isn't a formula car series in real life .
Example, if a e-sports champion is UK based. Why not drive in something like the Mini Cooper Cup and work towards the BTCC?
Even for a karting world champion, it's difficult to move into junior formula racing and almost impossible to get past F3 in terms of budget.
I asked this to James Baldwin and got shredded by his fans. Apparently Mini Cooper racing is far beneath his talent level.
6:20 matrix moment
Motorsport, for 99.9999999% of people is a hobby not a profession. Good drivers aren't in short supply. This is really the key factor here. The novelty of sim to irl has largely faded now, and the formula has reverted back to what it's always been which is "how much do you have to spend?"
make more videos(it's great) Sick vedio mate)
love this
I think a lot of you need a history lesson on the motor racing, it’s a rich man’s sport always has always will be
The only other element is this , it’s not what you know it’s who you know , just enjoy each race weather it’s alone on your pc in your bedroom or be it a esports event , most of the time when your hobby becomes your job , you’ll get fed up real quick, just enjoy life’s to short
Is there actually anybody that has spend 5 years in Euroformula before? Thats a crazy amount of time.
I think its easy to mix up word toxic and competitive
A lot of sim racing competitions have real drives as awards for winning. Fully paid. This should not be underestimated either
There is no way around it, motorsport is the most expensive sport in the world for a reason. Funding is the most cruicial aspect of the sport. Nikki Lauda took a massive loan and walk away from business acumen of his family in which would have probably made him just as successful but Nikki took a gamble on himself. Again Nyck De Vries took a loan to start his career in F1, mortage 50% of his salary as a F1 driver and still suffering litigation over contract dispute keep his driver seat in AlphaTauri. If anyone has aspiration to become a pro driver while starting as an esport sim driver, I would imagine is it almost impossible to achieve and would actually cost more money to fund for an individual versus a child foster in kart racing, I'm talking about overall funding. The esport to pro drivers who got their foot at the door isn't even proven commodity, no one in history has started from a desktop to become an F1 driver and a F1 title to his name. Max Verstappen resort to sim racing as an edge to drive his insane passion for racing but didn't start as a gamer. I mean max got his F1 seat before his driver license, that is no joke if you think it is not destiny, albeit his dad was a former f1 driver. All in all, being a pro driver is more like a destiny because most pro drivers are foster at a young age to live and breathe racing from the moment they are born, plus networking in motorsport will make or break a drivers opportunity and career upstart. Sad to say, its a pipe dream for the majority, it will take unquestionable drive and selfishness to get a drivers at all phase in any seat of motorsport.
Gt7 sport is like demolition derby in the lower levels. Really makes it hard to get used to the whole deal. When your trying hard to have clean races watching your driver safety rating plummet because people keep pushing you off the track into El Barrier. Yet those same players who consistently play dirty seem to have good safety ratings. It feels like the game encourages people to race dirty. You know its not just trolling. Look at how everybody makes videos about kimi. To illustrate the sad state of play. Now I understand at higher levels drivers tend to be more cooperative. So there is a silver lining. But in the meantime never go outside on a strait away. Get used to running bad lines just to keep the opponents from punting you. That just for the nice ones. The bad ones like that dirtbag kimi will actively try to end your race.
Hi Cameron. Make a video talking about how you get into motorsport
Yo Cameron why did you stop racing
I had offers to race F2 following my EFO championship, but I couldn’t raise enough money in time. (F2 money is crazzzzy!) I decided to put my focus on content creation to help generate sponsorship revenue for the future, so I would say it’s just on pause for the moment.
@@CameronDasRacing Which team offered you to race in F2?
@@CameronDasRacing fair enough what do u wanna achieve in racing?
very confusing how sim-racing and real car racing are mixed up throughout this video.
10:22 I am 10 and I play assets Cora’s with a Logitech g920
Very smart
Git gud raceroom had a GT4 seat, eTCR had a TCR test
Racing isnt just about spectacle anymore unfortunately
Honestly I think the esports mentality is ruining sim racing. It used to be fun and friendly, now it's win at all costs including cheating.
First Comment! Love your Vids.
Dont Quit Your Day Job
Can't loose social life and friends if you never had them :D
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Because you can't cheat in real life or exploit game mechanics 😂
Don’t be an esports driver. It’s too consuming. Keep it fun.
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