The fact that the showrunners made Luke full of self doubt, the fact that it was his loving mother who reassured and comforted him before unknowingly sending him into danger, and the fact that Aemond had no intention of killing him makes this maybe one of the most tragic episodes of television I have ever scene.
This was probably the most disturbing scene so far in HOTD to me. Arrax was the smallest and youngest dragon of all, essentially a kid dragon able to carry just a child, plus super scared of Vhagar in Storms end. I mean if dragons like Caraxes, Meleys, Vermithor or even Syrax dies, those are adult battle-worn dragons with older riders, but this was like a murdering child with his puppy dog.
I think Aemond thought for the first few seconds, he got cheap shotted. But then he heard Luke trying to get Arrax to yield and, despite how much he hates him for taking his eye, he didn't wants Vaghar stirring shit up by killing him. I know, it's a change from the story, but I think it makes Aemond a bit more tragic. This was the moment when it became blood for blood, and instead of it being due to Aemond being a vengeful kinslayer, it's because neither boy could control their dragons and he has no way to prove or convince anyone of the truth. The man was doomed to be cast as a villain in history for a crime he didn't commit.
I haven't seen the final EP so I'm not sure what happened before this but he was riding vhagar close to Luke before this in the storm so with your suggestion it would imply that he had second thoughts but he was still following him and (potentially) wanted to kill him? So he's another grey character like Daemon in that case.
@Red Queen Aemond: Oh that is bullshit! Did you Fuckers not see me telling Vaghar to chill? Was it ME that Fucking ATE a dragon, you Seven Self-Righteous Bastards!? The Seven: (Grumble in Effete Deity)
@@quartzking3997 the book was written by the accounts of the maestars who hated the targaryens, therefore their narrative isnt exact. Although, the series which is written by the author is confirmed to narrate the civil war as it happened and not how it said to been
Exactly, I mean for Aemond I feel its either ni one will believe him when he says what truly happened or he will just go with it so as not to make him look weak. Eventually he’ll definitely change comes the blood and cheese incident.
This just came down to a young dragon defending it's rider, and an old dragon who would not suffer an insult. Aemond and Luke just happened to be there 😞
As their father/grandfather said, it is an illusion that they can control the dragons. Both are clearly shouting at their dragons to stop and neither dragon cares.
@@J.D.Vision The scene sort of reminds me when we needed to fix my brother's Pittie's aggression issues. We put her in my backyard with my big fluffy Great Pyr. 1000 psi bite force vs. 500 psi. Lil Pittie discovered she wasn't a badass after all. 🤣
Some people say that this scene doesn’t make sense because Targaryens are supposed to have this great bond with their dragons and to be able to fully control them, but I think this scene shows exactly their bond. Luke felt scared, anxious and threatened, so his young dragon reacted accordingly. Arrax felt his rider’s fear too and did what it felt would protect his rider and make him feel safe. Aemond probably didn’t want to kill Lucerys, but the resentment and hate he felt towards him (and the Blacks in general) was also felt by Vhagar. Aemond didn’t want to literally kill Luke, but he did want to take his eye. Or at least, the desire to harm him in some way was still there even though he commanded Vhagar to not literally chase Luke because he knew that killing him would be too far. Mix Aemond’s (Vhagar’s rider) negative emotions towards Luke and Arrax’s attack towards Vhagar and it makes sense why Vhagar felt it was right to kill Luke and Arrax. I feel like the dragons are emotionally connected to their riders, but whatever they do with that info about their rider’s emotions and thoughts is still something that they decide on their own. They can obey their commands, but like we were told before, a dragon is still not a slave. They’d do what they feel would be in the best interests of their riders -even if it means not obeying their actual commands.
Exactly. They're like highly intelligent dogs. If a dog handler is nervous, the dog starts wondering "human is nervous, should I be nervous?" and it can spiral. I see it when I was doing agility with my dog: most of the time, he messed up because I was nervous about a route, or I forgot something and panicked. Perfect storm of negative emotions, fear, and the dragons took it into animal instinct territory :(
Aemond act like he is playing but he was truly nervous and veghar smelled it but She was patient to act Lucerys was very afraid and his dragon smelled it too, made him take a stupid attack on veghar who were fully prepared to act back.
@@lemonlimesnout that's rediculous, Aegon, Visenya and Rhaenys were half Targaryen their mothers family were not dragon riders. Rhaenys the Queen who never was who rides Meleys is half baratheon. Even Daenerys couldn't control her dragons at times and Queen Alysanne had a problem in the North with Silverwing
The dragons care for their masters was already show on episode 3 when daemon got attacked caraxes acted on it's own flew from the battlefield to protect daemon... dragons has their own will.
I actually like how they changed it. It gives us a lot to explore with the dragons and character development. Showing Aemond as not as evil at first means more tragic and tells that he will eventually spiral to madness. Plus the dragons not fully controlled makes a solid point that they were never a slave in this dance to come.
I fucking hate that they changed it… wtf, why do they keep softening every aspect of this show, are we not all adults or are they making this show for children, wtf???
aemond actor killed this role, he's so damn cool. the chase scene before this one when vhagar flew above arraxx he threw one hell of an evil laugh 10/10 gg.
This scene broke my heart, the kid is frightened to death and yet brave enough to keep his courage and try to calm his dragon, the storm, the biggest dragon in the world is facing him, he died million times before he was truely dead, rip baby lucerys.
I like that the Dragons werent entirely submissive to their riders. The saying that Dragons are not slaves is so true here. I mean, even Daenerys herself had trouble keeping her children in check before especially Drogon. Basically the dragons just reacted from the factors happening around them: the fear, the anxiety, the emotions of their riders, the damn weather. This scene began the dance of the dragons and theres no turning back now.
Dany was starting from scratch she didn't know any thing. The Dragon's breeders all die out 100 years ago and they didn't teach their children or grandchildren because they were no dragons to raise after 100 years after the Dance. She only had whip to teach the dragons. They had magic spells and songs to bend the dragons to their will. I find this retelling BS!!!!! Not all the Dragons were killed after the Dance. Lucerys fell into Ocean he was not eaten.
@@sanitizerwilson1599 Vhagar was bullying Arrax the same way Aemond felt he was intimidating Luke. When she chases him you can see how she bites the air to scare him and wants to kick him with her paws. Sadly, Arrax was in a situation of borderline stress and the storm did not help Lucerys or Aemond to control them properly.
@@sanitizerwilson1599 They made changes to this scene and if you didnt like it then thats your problem. Personally as a got fan, I liked that they made the dragons vulnerable here, susceptible to fear, anxiety and emotions. Vhagar intimidated Arrax and Arrax instinctively retaliated. Dragons are basically like any other creatures, they may be bigger, ferocious and ruthless than others but they get affected too. I think it also leaned on their insticts and bonds with their riders: Arrax basically grew up and bonded with Lucerys since childhood so he was being instictively protective since his rider was scared as shit, and Vhagar had previous riders and had survived so many battles and with her size, she feels superior and to get fired by someone as small as Arrax ticked her. In my opinion, the writers made the dragons more interesting and in depth than the ones I saw in got.
😢😢😢😢 baby Luke and Arrax. Of all episodes, this death really got me because the actor who played lucerys did such a wonderful job. His last scene with Rhaenyra was so heartbreaking. He was anxious to go to storms end and she reassured him it is short trip and he would be welcomed. Little did he know. 😢 and the part with him running towards Arrax and then telling Arrax to calm down and serve, was equally heart wrenching.
I think it proves that a dragon and its rider are truly connected. When Rhaenyra took charge during the stand-off between Otto and Daemon, Syrax squared looks with Caraxes despite being smaller; when Daemon was shot with an arrow, Caraxes let out a roar as if it was also in pain; when Laena wanted to die, it looked Vhagar contemplated; when Lucerys showed fear, it made Arrax felt threatened. Lastly when Aemond claimed Vhagar, it looked the she-dragon was testing him.
Hmmm, even when aemond was saying no, Vhagar probably still feels his inner resentment of the loss of his eye. She even attacks lucerys from the left side.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 No after Arrax attacked Vhagar out of fear. For Vhagar it became more than emotions rather her pride was hurt and needed to teach Arrax a lesson.
@@Lowkenn_Edits To be fair I do wonder whether Vhagar would be able to tell the difference between a desire to harm and a desire to kill. I get the feeling Vhagar thought they were there to kill Lucerys and Arrax the whole time, and just understood Aemond was playing with his prey before delivering the blow. Vhagar's pride may have just been what caused to her to end the altercation sooner.
@@teawrecks1243 "wait, where the fuck visenya lost her eye... waaait... dorne doesn't have dragons they hide all the time, where's balerion he has better memory than me"
Such a fantastic scene done well Luke was hiding arrax from vaghar and arrax was getting anxious and worried and obviously arrax is a dragon who felt threatened so arrax attacked vaghar without lukes command. As vaghar retaliated as a dragon would And aeemond wanted to scare luke not kill him. But such a tragedy this starts the war.
This is going to make blood and cheese seem much more cruel considering Aemond didn't actually want to kill him. Maybe blood and cheese will be changed as well because that's one of the most brutal things in the book
Vhagar is one of the dragons that played a huge role in Aegon’s conquest: it is Infact one of the 3 legendary dragons that brought all of Westeros to heel and united the realm. It was not going to let some dragon born less than 20 years ago disrespect it like that.
Kinslayer! Kinslayer... They chanted and roared in that pit, while my drunken brother lead them on it. But I did not wish for that name, nor did I wish for the death of my nephew. All I wanted is what was due, an eye for an eye. Yet my dragon had other plans. But who in the realm would believe me, the day I claimed Vhagar for my own they branded me as a thief and an outcast and now that name will follow me like a shadow. Kinslayer, Kinslayer those idiots kept on chanting, I am Aemond, my name is Aemond.
"The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion. They're a power man should never have trifled with. One thot brought Valyria its doom. If we don't mind our own histories, it will do the same to us." Viserys' worning has become a reality
I don't know about that. Viserys said this and he was a king who couldn't control the room he was in half the time. He had the most powerful dragon in existence so I wouldn't expect him to be able to control it then come up with a reason for it. Vhagor was old and Araxe was young and both had inexperienced riders. Rhaenys was able to get hers to crash through the ceiling of the dragon pit. Something I doubt any dragon had considered doing though it was an easy way to escape.
Aemond really only wanted to scare Luke, taunt him. But the storm complicated things, and Arrax grew angry at being chased and threatened by Vhagar, so he retaliated with a strafe run to the face, against Luke’s commands. Which only enraged Vhagar and made him ignore Aemond to get revenge on the puny dragon who took a cheap shot at him. And Aemond knew he had screwed up. He had drawn first blood, and now there was no chance of peace or terms. Only Fire and Blood.
I really like that it showed how it wasn't their choice its the dragons that started the Dance. Having Aemond not want to kill him is a lot better than the lunatic he comes across in the book.
@@SasukeUchiha-et2mp what are you talking about? Even Corlys was against doing nothing, is he also a lunatic? Hightowers declared war by going against Viserys’ wishes, strong warrior characters like Daemon, Corlys do not take rebellion lightly. Viserys was a weak king who always avoided conflict and that’s what caused all this tension in the first place. The Hightowers are also clearly plotting for the throne, which threatens the Targaryen line, so they are right about removing the Hightowers to end it. The Blacks should have just taken kingslanding and ended it there.
@@tonkinjeezus6626 dude i read books daemon was always wanted something like this to happen be a legend like aegon the conqueror freaking , watch the episode u can cleary see what he is thinking,when he choking rahenya throat because of his anger dude don't give af about anything or anyone.
So Basically a scare prank gone HORRIBLY WRONG. Never did i expect to symphatize with aemond. he just wanted to scare lucerys but the dragons have a mind of their own
maybe im delusional but even tho Rhaenyra’s boys and Alicent sons didn’t like each other, its kinda sad when you think about the fact that they all grew up with each other. So i like to think that even tho Aemond was extremely bitter and angry at Lucerys for the eye thing, i think part of him did felt some remorse.
It was all over his face at the end. "Oh fuck what have I done?" was probably coursing through his head, if not out of shock and remorse for killing Lucerys then it was knowing the consequences that will follow. Everyone in the 7 kingdoms will be convinced that Aemond brutally murdered Lucerys and there will be hell to pay.
The absolute best change from the books that I never expected. I liked both Lucerys and Aemond, but I was ready to accept that one of them was simply an unhinged war criminal with a few redeeming traits. I was ready for him to kill Luke out of pure vengeance, but then…they gave him depth. That’s when I realized that this show version of Aemond, the real one…not the vicious psychopath that the historians writing the book portrayed, was actually painfully human. From the time we saw him as a kid, and all through the episodes we saw him as an adult, he was nuanced. He often fought violently in retaliation to external attackers and responded like an angry kid would to mockery and injustice. He undeniably has a cruel and bitter side to him. We see it when he fights back. It surfaced for the first time directly after he claimed Vhagar and spoke coldly to the other children confronting him. However, he was also shown as someone loving towards his mother and sister, even cooperative with his brother despite their painfully obvious differences. He cares about his family, he’s brave, he doesn’t appreciate depravity, he’s intellectually advanced, he has ambitions, and believes he should rule because he’s actually responsible and determined. But he’s still a kid with anger and resentment issues. He’s not fully mature in terms of his character. He and his mother never got justice for the night when he lost his eye. They were discarded and ignored, so naturally, years later, Aemond is strong and capable and ready to receive payment for his debt when his rivals return. This manifests against Luke, who despite being a fairly docile and innocent lad, never bothered to reconcile with his old childhood opponent. He ignored him and even laughed at him during the last dinner they had together. Aemond is furious and wants to even gift Luke’s payment to his mother. He wants the justice he was deprived of. He doesn’t want to kill Luke. He doesn’t even want to blind him. He just wants an eye for an eye, and only that despite literally being on opposite sides of a serious conflict. But Luke refuses, says nothing, and Aemond is left discarded once again, sending him into a torrent of emotions that lead him to make a very childlike and foolish decision. We have to remember that he and Luke are 19 and 14. They are teenage boys with a score to settle. They aren’t going to make good decisions. Even Aemond, for all his attempts at being responsible and well-read, loses control. Just as Alicent lost her head in a streak of fury and attacked Rhaenyra, so Aemond also gives into his rage and chases Luke with an old dragon that is extremely dangerous. Aemond doesn’t consider the possibility that Vhagar could go rogue, but when she does, he panics and tries to stop anything from happening. It’s the accidental misfire of a gun, it’s the loss of control over your guard dog when guests arrive. Vhagar, whether it’s because she simply wanted to get back at Arrax for the attack, or because she senses Aemond’s emotions and wants to put an end to the struggle, lashes out and demolishes Luke and Arrax. Both boys lost control of these powerful beasts, because dragons aren’t slaves. Even the riders and mounts with the closest bonds should not expect that animals with minds of their own will always obey every command. The idea that they control the dragons is an illusion. So now Luke is dead, and Aemond is horrified, revealing to the audience that’s still essentially just a kid with too much power. That right there is when I realized he was going to be a beautifully complex character, likely with a villain’s downfall that leads him to become the enraged madman we see described in the books. The consequences for his slip-up are going to be utterly traumatizing. I can’t explain how elated I was to see this twist. I feel awful for Luke, but I also feel awful for Aemond. His youthful impulsiveness led to something extremely serious. It got real. Just like when Alicent lost control of her blade and scarred Rhaenyra, creating a new rift. Aemond’s loss of control will lead to war and suffering. Like mother, like son. We just witnessed Aemond’s first kill, and he’s in torment over it. Seeing how he falls further into becoming someone so cruel and violent will be fascinating. I cannot wait to see his arc. Bravo to the writers for this decision!
I'm glad to see someone understands nuance and the greyness of the characters. There are plenty simple minded fans who prefer to demonize one side and whitewash the other despite all contradictory evidence.
Someone who actually understands both characters and is not a biased Rhaenyra fan😢. Bc oh my, that's rare to see. Aemond have every right to hate luke, but everybody loves painting luke like he is just an innocent boy who has done no harm when that couldn't be further from the truth. Also Luke was 12 in the show and Aemond was 17. Not 14 and 19
This is just even more tragic for everyone, especially Aemond, Lucerys, Helaena, Daemon and Rhaenyra. Aemond didn’t mean to kill Lucerys and Arrax, Vhagar was half-wild. 😢
A dumb change from the books. Aemond is supposed to be the single most Bloodthirsty character of the dance. Book Aemond would be ashamed of show Aemond only 'accidentally' killing Luke. Book Aemond wanted all the smoke. Hell some accounts say that in the book, aemond actually went to retrieve Luke's corpse just so he could tesr out his eyes
@@hadokenraikiri6977 Agreed. Although the potential for character depth is much more in the show now with this "mistakenly killing luke" scene, I do feel bad that we probably won't see much of aemund's savagery in the riverlands when he burns so many towns. They're making aemund look soft and weak by showing he has no control over vhagar.
It's interesting to observe how Aemond is receiving support in this situation. Don't forget that he chose to play tag with a youngster and a weapon of mass destruction. They both tragically lost control of their dragons, but Aemond is solely to blame.
Yeah Aemond is truly to blame because at first , it was not right time to discuss about revenge when both were sent as a messenger and other he scared that little dragon in that way that arrax has to spit fire as a defence and that makes Vhagar disrespect so tragedy happened...
Well I believe it is still Aemond's fault. I understand that his intention was to only play with Luke and Arrax with Vhagar, but he forgot that dragons are not toys. Vhagar is a monster, a 181 year old beast who's been through too much war and bloodshed, and with all that comes a sort of a pride. Arrax is a baby dragon, in age and size both. So, while for Aemond it was just having some fun by getting Vhagar to chase Arrax, for him and Luke it was life-threateningly scary. No wonder Arrax acted out and blasted Vhagar with fire. He was scared and like a scared child, he acted out. And like a proud and petty adult, Vhagar took it personally and well....then she went chomp chomp. Poor Luke. But yeah, my assessment is that Vhagar has become way too old and proud to now listen to a human's command, while Arrax is just too young and still in his teenage, rebellious years (remember how Dany had difficulty controlling Drogon when he was at that age?). Both the dragons acted against their rider's commands, one out of fear and the other out of pride. But still, it is fitting that the Dance of the Dragons should start because of two dragons and their little fight.
It's like having a dangerous breed of a dog. You can't just make a dog mad at little puppy, he is gonna kill that child😭 some responsibility and common sense for Aemond 😡
@@cosmaslastrwafa176 The way the history views it in game of thrones she was never a queen and nobody is ever a true monarch unless they sit and claim the iron throne whcih she never did so even her own future descendants don't claim her to be a true queen.
That wasn't his intentions nor was he trying to fire blast Vhegar, both their dragon went rogue. Luke intention was to hide and then flee. Aemond intention was to scare the living shit out of Luke not to murder him. Based on the context of them speaking high valerian
Sad. I really liked Lucerys character and was happy to see him develop. However Aemond has such a deeper character than I thought too. At first I thought he's a plain psychopath with a preference for holding a grudge like his momma. But at the end he's just a hurt soul who cant let go of what was done to him. Imagine you get bullied your whole life and then that bully takes your eye. Then you are given like the greatest weapon ever. Obviously he never wanted to kill Luc. He might had the wish to harm him in some way or mock him like they did with him when he was younger. Which in some kind of way is relateable.
dont forget that they also grew together. no matter what kind of bully luke was, they were raised as brothers. only alicent made her kids toxic which paid off here. aemond just wanted an eye from luke because he lost one because of him. aemond got my sympathy but unfortunately both sides will blame him for drawing the first blood. there is no going back now
@@arcanelight8365 Alicent made her kids toxic? Are we forgetting that Rhaenyra gaslit for her own kids to begin with by calling for the kid who got maimed to get tortured for calling her kids names?
,, Dragons can never truly be controled by anyone, even their mother "- Jorah Mormont ,, The idea we control dragons is a illusion "- Viserys the Peaceful ,, With great power must also come a great responsibility "- Old Ben Parker He who doesn't know the last doesn't desearve to be powerful.
i wonder what would aemond and daemon talk about? maybe aemond would tell the truth about lucerys to him ...... even thinking about it makes me feel tragic. i hated book aemond but this guy. im sorry for whats coming your way aemond
lucerys just dissapeared...damn. and the after shot of arrax's ripped apart body and wings just floating to the ground like a helicopter seed from a maple tree was graphic...wow. I didn't expect a dead dragon to bother me like this.
Same, I know they're fictional. But animal cruelty always upsets me. I'm not looking forward to the violence of next season, especially Baela and the dragonpit.
@@Taygon094 with humans, you can always think; What if they deserved it? With an animal, you know they're the victim, and that they're completely innocent in the matter. Animals react to situations, and unfortunately, Arrax's instinctual reaction to try and protect Lucerys ultimately resulted in both of their deaths.
@@Taygon094 Lucerys deserved it just as little. But, even if it's a mistake of his childhood, he was involved in the removal of Aegon's eye, so there is that ever so slight justification, no matter how little. The dragon has zero involvement in the rising conflict, and is simply the companion to the person who bonded with it, and yet it still pays with its life.
I really liked this change. It made me look at this scene from the dragon’s perspective. Aemond is just playing a game. But Vhagar is an old dragon, she’d probably rather be sleeping in a den somewhere but instead she has to fly aemond all over Westeros. He starts chasing luke and arrax, who were both fearing for their lives. Arrax has never even ridden this far before let alone been chased by the worlds biggest dragon. He got scared and defended himself and luke, and Vhagar got real tired of the game with this puny dragon and ate him out of the sky. But that dragon was carrying Rhaenyra Targaryen’s son. Aemond forgot to respect the power he held and the punishment is arguably the worst war Westeros has ever seen.
@@terminallove3531 A wild dragon that was huge and possibly as old or older than Vhagar. He ate young dragons, dragon eggs, etc. Any dragon he came across he wanted to devour.
I think the show added the depth we needed as viewers to justify how the rest of fire and blood transpired, and not suddenly have aemond be a cold blood kinslayer for no good reason. The book of fire and blood were all eye witnesses accounts any way. Hope this doesn’t cause discourse, just appreciating the show for its story building in a fan’s perspective.
The book was written by maesters who hated the targarians. How would the maesters have seen this happen ? They were trying to paint the targarians as monsters. The show tells us what actually happened.
Alicent: How did your meeting go with Lord Baratheon. I assume they will help us defend the realm without bloodshed. Aemond: Yea it went well, and Vaeghar ate Luke and his dragon. Alicent: PLEASE DEAR GODS, JUST END MY LIFE. 💀💀💀
@@lyd7136 i would be shocked if she send condolences. But I feel like she gonna prepare for war, it’s no way to avoid it. Even it was a accident it won’t look like it to everyone else
This actually makes sense with Vhagar being so old and willfull and Arrax being young and dumb. I also like how this Aemond didn't really choose to do this himself.
it says in the book if the storm wasn’t there , Arrax could have easily flown Vhagar out. You can see the little fragon has to flap its wings alot due to the wind, where as Vhagar just glides through it like a jumbo jet.
He was just a baby; a 13 year old boy with little to no experience and flew under a peace banner. Not to mention the fact that he was reluctant to be involved in the first place, and only went for his love of his mother and his family. This was a tragic end for such sweet and gentle character
Little dragon was scared by Aemond moves so it spit fire as a defense so it was Aemond mistake not dragons..he should not play with that machine can't be controlled.
I think Vhagar got protective of Aemond as Arryx’s fire could have hurt him as well and the little dragon basically enraged a dragon who had a long history of bloodshed and dared to hurt her pride. The end for Lucerys was sad but a miscalculation on Rhaenyra’s plans of thinking Baratheons will give a warm welcome to her son . As she should have known Greens were planning this for a longer time then she ever could have recalled. Also she left Kings Landing knowing her father could die at any moment she gave them a chance and they took it her downfall was on her own hands.
I mean can u blame the little dragon ?vhagar big asf and aemond was chasing them, not to mention arryxs could barley fly in the rain and was scared. I think it was trying to protect its self and it’s rider, and vice versa for vhagar with aemond when arryxs shot that fire at vhagar.
@Your_local_fangirl it's the smaller dragons instict to defend itself by bursting fire. what do you expect if a larger dragon is chasing you. Both boys failed to control their dragons.
You have to remember that fire and blood is a maester source. The maesters have an incredible hateful bias towards Targaryens in general so of course they’d portray the Aemond as a vengeful killer.
This just adds more layer to Aemond's character. Damn, what a tragedy. Even tho its fiction, it's still heartbreakingly sad. Rhaenrya lost 2 children in 1 episode, and the last thing Luke remembered was being eaten alive and killed by his uncle.
Arrax was a baby dragon whereas Vhagar has been around for more than a hundred years. Aemond's hubris led him to believe he could control such a massive veteran war dragon.
Aemond didn’t want to kill Luke. This was meant merely to be another one of their childish pissing contests. He may be a Daemon type bad boy and he may not like Luke, but he isn’t a mindless evil asshole. Aemond himself is still just a kid, and he’s just accidentally killed his little nephew. There is a moment of great regret and fear in Aemond when Vhagar kills him.
A lot of people won’t like this but I prefer this over the way the books described it. Dragons are not slaves, they have minds of their own and even though people have the illusion that they are controlled as Viserys said they do not have 100% control. But also, Damnit Aemond what did you think was going to happen Nanny Vhagar is always down to cause chaos.
I’m so glad they are giving more depth the Aemonds character. With how much they’ve made the Greens into villains I figured they would amplify the bloodlust in this scene.
If you think they’ve made the Greens into villains you haven’t been paying attention. Aside from Otto they have all proved to be multilayered. Especially Alicent, who is much more one-dimensional in the book.
@@lyd7136 Cristin Cole is a villain aswell. Aegon too since he's a rapist. Alicent is grey, Haelenas actually good. And then Aemond seemed villainous in the last 2 episodes, here he wanted Luke's eye but he didn't want to actually kill Luke or Arrax? He's a bit tricky to understand compared to the rest.
@@NobleBoss hmm I guess I forgot about Crispin and the drunktard. Although for Criston, I think it can be argued that he was taken advantage of. The power imbalance (in terms of social class and rank) between him and Rhaenyra has been swept under the rug by a lot of fans of the show it seems. The stain on his sacred vows (all for nothing in his mind) is something he never got over apparently. He’s still an asshole and it doesn’t justify his behavior later on, but his motives are more understandable than they are in the book.
@@NobleBoss aegon is much more complicated than that tbh, his whole life he was nothing but a disgrace to his family which ended up molding him to the vile thing he is but now he knows that the people love him , for the first time in his whole life he feels like he's worthy.
@@TheFoshaMan people keep saying this but how the hell would he have gotten ONLY his eye several feet in the air chasing him and trying to torment him and his dragon??
Aemond: Give me your eye!!
Vhagar: He can keep his eyes.
Omfg I feel terrible for laughing about this xDD
"I SAID HURT HIM A LITTLE BIT!"
"BITCH I'M A FUCKING KAIJU WITH WINGS, THAT'S MY LITTLEST BIT"
I'm stealing this joke. XD
JAJJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA MAN
🤣🤣
Kids these days absolutely can't control their dragons in public.
Nor in private
“The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion” King Viserys Targaryen
Daemon says hi
An Illusion well kept secret.
The Targaryen way of saying "they're dragons khaleesi, they can never be tamed"
I thought Aemond kill Luc, but not Vhagar
A dragon is no slave.
The fact that the showrunners made Luke full of self doubt, the fact that it was his loving mother who reassured and comforted him before unknowingly sending him into danger, and the fact that Aemond had no intention of killing him makes this maybe one of the most tragic episodes of television I have ever scene.
well said
Absolutely agree. Aemond is now going to carry the blame for the whole war
its a fucking devastating scene
@@user-qi2rp8vx7h guy do be speaking high valerian.
@@maestromars8487 he's a dumb indian who doesnt understand the depth of the show
“Visenya, look! I got them, I got those Dornish bastards!” - Senile Vhagar moments later.
I love Senile Vhagar XD
"Balerion, sweetheart! I left over some wings for you!"
“No, Vhagar! No, no, no!”
“What’s that? Grandma Vhagar can’t hear you, sweetie.”
Vhagar:" The Dornish are flying now! Let's get them!"
Keep the Grandma Vhaghar jokes coming
This was probably the most disturbing scene so far in HOTD to me. Arrax was the smallest and youngest dragon of all, essentially a kid dragon able to carry just a child, plus super scared of Vhagar in Storms end. I mean if dragons like Caraxes, Meleys, Vermithor or even Syrax dies, those are adult battle-worn dragons with older riders, but this was like a murdering child with his puppy dog.
Pretty much
It was like a middle schooler being chased around and ripped apart by Andre the Giant.
arrax was dumb,he could have easily outrunned vhagar.
@@basseldehni488 normally arrax could’ve outrun vhagar yes, but the young dragon couldn’t navigate such a tempestuous storm as effectively as vhagar.
@@basseldehni488 there's a storm bro
I think Aemond thought for the first few seconds, he got cheap shotted. But then he heard Luke trying to get Arrax to yield and, despite how much he hates him for taking his eye, he didn't wants Vaghar stirring shit up by killing him.
I know, it's a change from the story, but I think it makes Aemond a bit more tragic. This was the moment when it became blood for blood, and instead of it being due to Aemond being a vengeful kinslayer, it's because neither boy could control their dragons and he has no way to prove or convince anyone of the truth.
The man was doomed to be cast as a villain in history for a crime he didn't commit.
I haven't seen the final EP so I'm not sure what happened before this but he was riding vhagar close to Luke before this in the storm so with your suggestion it would imply that he had second thoughts but he was still following him and (potentially) wanted to kill him? So he's another grey character like Daemon in that case.
This isn’t a change, remember the book is a biased history book, not the actual story so things will be wrong in one way or another.
Awe
@Red Queen Aemond: Oh that is bullshit! Did you Fuckers not see me telling Vaghar to chill? Was it ME that Fucking ATE a dragon, you Seven Self-Righteous Bastards!?
The Seven: (Grumble in Effete Deity)
@@The_preserver_x16 that is an excellent point
I love that they are recontextualizing these events. History paints Aemond in a profoundly negative light; this makes him much more tragic
They aren’t “recontextualising” them, it’s a fan fiction
@@quartzking3997 the book was written by the accounts of the maestars who hated the targaryens, therefore their narrative isnt exact. Although, the series which is written by the author is confirmed to narrate the civil war as it happened and not how it said to been
lmfao even the books has contracdicting statements. Hahaha.
Exactly, I mean for Aemond I feel its either ni one will believe him when he says what truly happened or he will just go with it so as not to make him look weak. Eventually he’ll definitely change comes the blood and cheese incident.
It shows that Aemond has a bit of humanity and a conscience. Not just some bloodthirsty warmonger
This just came down to a young dragon defending it's rider, and an old dragon who would not suffer an insult. Aemond and Luke just happened to be there 😞
Yes, just like two dogs at a park, a pitbull being bitten by a chihuahua defending his owner out of fear, then the pit bull tearing his ass apart.
@@J.D.Vision It's more like a rat vs pitbull .
As their father/grandfather said, it is an illusion that they can control the dragons. Both are clearly shouting at their dragons to stop and neither dragon cares.
@@J.D.Vision The scene sort of reminds me when we needed to fix my brother's Pittie's aggression issues. We put her in my backyard with my big fluffy Great Pyr. 1000 psi bite force vs. 500 psi. Lil Pittie discovered she wasn't a badass after all. 🤣
@@troymash8109 ah yes, the classic tactic of allowing violence between two dogs to teach one of them a lesson, lol. Please don't have kids
Some people say that this scene doesn’t make sense because Targaryens are supposed to have this great bond with their dragons and to be able to fully control them, but I think this scene shows exactly their bond.
Luke felt scared, anxious and threatened, so his young dragon reacted accordingly. Arrax felt his rider’s fear too and did what it felt would protect his rider and make him feel safe.
Aemond probably didn’t want to kill Lucerys, but the resentment and hate he felt towards him (and the Blacks in general) was also felt by Vhagar. Aemond didn’t want to literally kill Luke, but he did want to take his eye. Or at least, the desire to harm him in some way was still there even though he commanded Vhagar to not literally chase Luke because he knew that killing him would be too far. Mix Aemond’s (Vhagar’s rider) negative emotions towards Luke and Arrax’s attack towards Vhagar and it makes sense why Vhagar felt it was right to kill Luke and Arrax.
I feel like the dragons are emotionally connected to their riders, but whatever they do with that info about their rider’s emotions and thoughts is still something that they decide on their own. They can obey their commands, but like we were told before, a dragon is still not a slave. They’d do what they feel would be in the best interests of their riders -even if it means not obeying their actual commands.
I wonder if it their bond also isn't that strong since they are only half targaryen? 🤔
Exactly. They're like highly intelligent dogs. If a dog handler is nervous, the dog starts wondering "human is nervous, should I be nervous?" and it can spiral. I see it when I was doing agility with my dog: most of the time, he messed up because I was nervous about a route, or I forgot something and panicked. Perfect storm of negative emotions, fear, and the dragons took it into animal instinct territory :(
Aemond act like he is playing but he was truly nervous and veghar smelled it but She was patient to act
Lucerys was very afraid and his dragon smelled it too, made him take a stupid attack on veghar who were fully prepared to act back.
@@lemonlimesnout that's rediculous, Aegon, Visenya and Rhaenys were half Targaryen their mothers family were not dragon riders. Rhaenys the Queen who never was who rides Meleys is half baratheon. Even Daenerys couldn't control her dragons at times and Queen Alysanne had a problem in the North with Silverwing
The dragons care for their masters was already show on episode 3 when daemon got attacked caraxes acted on it's own flew from the battlefield to protect daemon... dragons has their own will.
I actually like how they changed it. It gives us a lot to explore with the dragons and character development. Showing Aemond as not as evil at first means more tragic and tells that he will eventually spiral to madness. Plus the dragons not fully controlled makes a solid point that they were never a slave in this dance to come.
To me makes sense once they are animals. sometimes my dog doesn't listen to me while he's barking.
I fucking hate that they changed it… wtf, why do they keep softening every aspect of this show, are we not all adults or are they making this show for children, wtf???
@@LegendInThaMakin fleshing out a character more = "softening". Shut up edgelord. Go watch anime instead you twink.
bro stfu, that's dumb
@@LegendInThaMakin calm down edge lord
aemond actor killed this role, he's so damn cool. the chase scene before this one when vhagar flew above arraxx he threw one hell of an evil laugh 10/10 gg.
How did you get to watch this most recent episode? On what Platform?
@@bryanwolf6996 leaked on torrents
That laugh was so petty and psychopathic even knowing what was to come i couldn't not laugh lol
@@bryanwolf6996 fmovies
Check him out on the las kingdom he’s a great actor on that show to
Aemond was like "oh no, my mother is gona kill me!"
Yeah, nah
@@G4MBIT "You only lost one eye," he is reported to have said. "How could you be so blind?" - Otto Hightower after hearing aemond killed Luke
@@G4MBIT She actually is pissed in the book
Naah, it will be fine
@@dominictoretto3592 there was no change
This scene broke my heart, the kid is frightened to death and yet brave enough to keep his courage and try to calm his dragon, the storm, the biggest dragon in the world is facing him, he died million times before he was truely dead, rip baby lucerys.
how did you watch the episode already? it hasn’t released yet
@@kaylak9470 you’re joking right ?
@@Ab-zz5iw no i’m fr i saw a thing where it said it got leaked but other than that idk how ppl are watching it
@@kaylak9470 it was leaked and it's everywhere, i watched it on telegram
P ssy weeb
I like that the Dragons werent entirely submissive to their riders. The saying that Dragons are not slaves is so true here. I mean, even Daenerys herself had trouble keeping her children in check before especially Drogon. Basically the dragons just reacted from the factors happening around them: the fear, the anxiety, the emotions of their riders, the damn weather. This scene began the dance of the dragons and theres no turning back now.
Dany was starting from scratch she didn't know any thing. The Dragon's breeders all die out 100 years ago and they didn't teach their children or grandchildren because they were no dragons to raise after 100 years after the Dance. She only had whip to teach the dragons. They had magic spells and songs to bend the dragons to their will. I find this retelling BS!!!!! Not all the Dragons were killed after the Dance. Lucerys fell into Ocean he was not eaten.
@@sanitizerwilson1599 Vhagar was bullying Arrax the same way Aemond felt he was intimidating Luke. When she chases him you can see how she bites the air to scare him and wants to kick him with her paws. Sadly, Arrax was in a situation of borderline stress and the storm did not help Lucerys or Aemond to control them properly.
@@sanitizerwilson1599 They made changes to this scene and if you didnt like it then thats your problem. Personally as a got fan, I liked that they made the dragons vulnerable here, susceptible to fear, anxiety and emotions. Vhagar intimidated Arrax and Arrax instinctively retaliated. Dragons are basically like any other creatures, they may be bigger, ferocious and ruthless than others but they get affected too. I think it also leaned on their insticts and bonds with their riders: Arrax basically grew up and bonded with Lucerys since childhood so he was being instictively protective since his rider was scared as shit, and Vhagar had previous riders and had survived so many battles and with her size, she feels superior and to get fired by someone as small as Arrax ticked her. In my opinion, the writers made the dragons more interesting and in depth than the ones I saw in got.
@@sanitizerwilson1599 isn’t the book just loosely based second accounts anyway? This seems more a “how it really happened” telling of the story.
Its a relationship. Its like a spouse. You can’t control your spouse. Your spouse does things for because he/she loves you, cares for you, etc etc.
"If you love your pet, the pet loves you back" An overcaring pet, Vhagar
Aww.
Is it Vegar that Damon sang to the dragon's ears?
@@mynulislam7180 No it's Vermithor
@borris what will little birdies leak next? Cant wait.
"Vhagar, I want you to hurt him a little bit."
*Vhagar hurts him the littlest bit she can manage*
"Oh, FUCK."
😢😢😢😢 baby Luke and Arrax. Of all episodes, this death really got me because the actor who played lucerys did such a wonderful job. His last scene with Rhaenyra was so heartbreaking. He was anxious to go to storms end and she reassured him it is short trip and he would be welcomed. Little did he know. 😢 and the part with him running towards Arrax and then telling Arrax to calm down and serve, was equally heart wrenching.
😭😭😭😭
He was such a good dragon rider and loved his little Arrax 😭😭😭
I feel so bad until noww
@@alext7500 obviously not a good dragon rider when his dragon doesnt listen to him
@@alicenthightower9161 he's a good dragon rider lol. Even Daenerys can't tamed his dragons. Aemond too, vhagar didn't obey him.
I think it proves that a dragon and its rider are truly connected. When Rhaenyra took charge during the stand-off between Otto and Daemon, Syrax squared looks with Caraxes despite being smaller; when Daemon was shot with an arrow, Caraxes let out a roar as if it was also in pain; when Laena wanted to die, it looked Vhagar contemplated; when Lucerys showed fear, it made Arrax felt threatened. Lastly when Aemond claimed Vhagar, it looked the she-dragon was testing him.
Hmmm, even when aemond was saying no, Vhagar probably still feels his inner resentment of the loss of his eye. She even attacks lucerys from the left side.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 No after Arrax attacked Vhagar out of fear. For Vhagar it became more than emotions rather her pride was hurt and needed to teach Arrax a lesson.
@@Lowkenn_Edits whichever reason it was Vhagar got Aemonds revenge for him & himself
Alos in the books when aemond's eye was slashed vhagar was screaming with him meaning he felt his pain
@@Lowkenn_Edits To be fair I do wonder whether Vhagar would be able to tell the difference between a desire to harm and a desire to kill. I get the feeling Vhagar thought they were there to kill Lucerys and Arrax the whole time, and just understood Aemond was playing with his prey before delivering the blow. Vhagar's pride may have just been what caused to her to end the altercation sooner.
Arrax: "ok boomer"
Vhagar: "YOU DAMN KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN"
"When did Dorne have dragons, Visenya? They're kinda crunchy tho"
@@teawrecks1243 "wait, where the fuck visenya lost her eye... waaait... dorne doesn't have dragons they hide all the time, where's balerion he has better memory than me"
Such a fantastic scene done well
Luke was hiding arrax from vaghar and arrax was getting anxious and worried and obviously arrax is a dragon who felt threatened so arrax attacked vaghar without lukes command.
As vaghar retaliated as a dragon would
And aeemond wanted to scare luke not kill him.
But such a tragedy this starts the war.
This is going to make blood and cheese seem much more cruel considering Aemond didn't actually want to kill him. Maybe blood and cheese will be changed as well because that's one of the most brutal things in the book
@@savage2am573 yeah, i think its the most disturbing thing in The Dance. Hope they will change it in some way.
@@savage2am573 let’s be real any parent would want get back, nobody else knows that happen besides aemond and they cant trust his word
@@savage2am573 Nah, it would be a disservice to make Blood and Cheese less brutal. That event is meant to show how messed up both sides actually are.
@@gedois3714 go watch marvel if youre scared of blood
Vhagar is one of the dragons that played a huge role in Aegon’s conquest: it is Infact one of the 3 legendary dragons that brought all of Westeros to heel and united the realm. It was not going to let some dragon born less than 20 years ago disrespect it like that.
Little bastard had the nerve to beath fire in Vhagar's face. She sure showed that whipper snapper not to mess with Grandma!
But he gets killed by caraxes so...👀
@@darylphanbuh Vhagar and Aemond still took most of the Blacks out with them.
@@darylphanbuh you really have some issues to spoil other people's fun huh?
@@darylphanbuh and caraxes and daemon also die so…
Vhagar is a war beast. It was foolish of Aemond to think that she would play games with another dragon and it’s rider.
@SilentWraith Daemon is an EXPERIENCED rider, so was Laena. That’s different.
@@na-eemthebus641 Plus Vhagar and Caraxes former riders have good relationships with each others (Aemon and Baelon/Daemon and Laena)
@@darkkiller11100 precisely my point.
@SilentWraith that is love but its not ...
He did it. Aemond the Kinslayer is born. There is no turning back anymore. Ladies and Gentlemen, The Dance of Dragons has begun 🐉
Kinslayer before this Jon Snow killed his aunt Daenerys so in game of thrones u either win or die no middle ground.
😂😂😂 this nigga is lucerys owner
@@ayanumar3757 According to bittersteal you either win or die or retreat to essos
@@flyhard3388 true
Why are saying that as complement 😭. Character literally regret what happened. You'll don't even like the Character
Aemond's regret after Vhagar kills Lucerys makes it so much tragic knowing what would happen next. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
this makes what comes next even more heartbreaking...
I think the twins are Aemonds which would make this scene even more tragic
Especially since the show is hinting at a heleana relationship so i agree
Yeah, it's almost as if he foresees what's going to happen in that moment. The actor did a good job.
Hardcore seeing Arrax in pieces falling out the sky, Vhagar is a monster
Vermithore is coming for vhagar
@@jakebradford4272 Caraxes 👀
@@jakebradford4272
Lol..
Vermithor will switch over to the side of the greens.
@@ollie-pn1ql Neither one survives, so meh to Ceraxes.
Kinslayer! Kinslayer... They chanted and roared in that pit, while my drunken brother lead them on it. But I did not wish for that name, nor did I wish for the death of my nephew. All I wanted is what was due, an eye for an eye. Yet my dragon had other plans. But who in the realm would believe me, the day I claimed Vhagar for my own they branded me as a thief and an outcast and now that name will follow me like a shadow. Kinslayer, Kinslayer those idiots kept on chanting, I am Aemond, my name is Aemond.
I'll always believe Aemond.
Is this an actual quote?
@@sagharkakkar164 No, but i think it mirrors one of jaimes quotes from the books
Dang, if you thought that up, you should write… for Disney, they need the most help.
Well written.. I thought this was from the book.. well written.
"The idea that we control the dragons is an illusion. They're a power man should never have trifled with. One thot brought Valyria its doom. If we don't mind our own histories, it will do the same to us." Viserys' worning has become a reality
We should kill the thots while we still can.
One "thot"? NICE.
the power that one thot had. incredible.
I don't know about that. Viserys said this and he was a king who couldn't control the room he was in half the time. He had the most powerful dragon in existence so I wouldn't expect him to be able to control it then come up with a reason for it. Vhagor was old and Araxe was young and both had inexperienced riders. Rhaenys was able to get hers to crash through the ceiling of the dragon pit. Something I doubt any dragon had considered doing though it was an easy way to escape.
Aemond:"VHAGAR NO!"
Vhagar:"VHAGAR YES!"
Man i cant believe how brutal this is omg
If this is brutal then
wait for surprise
Man I love how brutal it is lmao
I felt so bad for Luke what a horrible way to die 😢
@@CrazyDescription I felt bad for Arrax lmao
@@AnupomAG two years
Damn, Aemond is so desperate to gain control over Vahagar, you can hear it in his voice.
Aemond really only wanted to scare Luke, taunt him. But the storm complicated things, and Arrax grew angry at being chased and threatened by Vhagar, so he retaliated with a strafe run to the face, against Luke’s commands. Which only enraged Vhagar and made him ignore Aemond to get revenge on the puny dragon who took a cheap shot at him. And Aemond knew he had screwed up. He had drawn first blood, and now there was no chance of peace or terms. Only Fire and Blood.
"well shit!!!!"
Vhagar is a SHE. She was Visenya Targaryen's dragon.
"Vhagar, hurt him a little bit."
*Vhagar eats him AND his dragon*
"THAT WAS YOUR LITTLE BIT?!"
Her she is a female
Trying to use a dragon like that is just stupid, and it ended exactly how it should have.
Arrax uses Flamethrower! It’s not effective.
Vhager uses Crunch! It’s super effective!
really mate? a little bit funny but still
@@jeffreysamson5938
Yes. Really.
I really like that it showed how it wasn't their choice its the dragons that started the Dance. Having Aemond not want to kill him is a lot better than the lunatic he comes across in the book.
the showrunners made this scene more of an accident with each of the dragons not listening to their riders.
Only lunatic in this show is daemon dude want to be like aegon the conqueror freaking happy about this war.
@@SasukeUchiha-et2mp what are you talking about? Even Corlys was against doing nothing, is he also a lunatic?
Hightowers declared war by going against Viserys’ wishes, strong warrior characters like Daemon, Corlys do not take rebellion lightly. Viserys was a weak king who always avoided conflict and that’s what caused all this tension in the first place. The Hightowers are also clearly plotting for the throne, which threatens the Targaryen line, so they are right about removing the Hightowers to end it.
The Blacks should have just taken kingslanding and ended it there.
@@tonkinjeezus6626 I agree with you. But you know The Hightowers intention isn’t to end Targeryans because their children are all Targeryans.
@@tonkinjeezus6626 dude i read books daemon was always wanted something like this to happen be a legend like aegon the conqueror freaking , watch the episode u can cleary see what he is thinking,when he choking rahenya throat because of his anger dude don't give af about anything or anyone.
So Basically a scare prank gone HORRIBLY WRONG. Never did i expect to symphatize with aemond. he just wanted to scare lucerys but the dragons have a mind of their own
maybe im delusional but even tho Rhaenyra’s boys and Alicent sons didn’t like each other, its kinda sad when you think about the fact that they all grew up with each other. So i like to think that even tho Aemond was extremely bitter and angry at Lucerys for the eye thing, i think part of him did felt some remorse.
It was all over his face at the end. "Oh fuck what have I done?" was probably coursing through his head, if not out of shock and remorse for killing Lucerys then it was knowing the consequences that will follow. Everyone in the 7 kingdoms will be convinced that Aemond brutally murdered Lucerys and there will be hell to pay.
It’s in the book tho!
@@ralphaelhillman In the books he wants to and is kinda a psyco, here u can see he is trying to stop Vhagar and clearly has regret over it.
The absolute best change from the books that I never expected. I liked both Lucerys and Aemond, but I was ready to accept that one of them was simply an unhinged war criminal with a few redeeming traits. I was ready for him to kill Luke out of pure vengeance, but then…they gave him depth. That’s when I realized that this show version of Aemond, the real one…not the vicious psychopath that the historians writing the book portrayed, was actually painfully human.
From the time we saw him as a kid, and all through the episodes we saw him as an adult, he was nuanced. He often fought violently in retaliation to external attackers and responded like an angry kid would to mockery and injustice. He undeniably has a cruel and bitter side to him. We see it when he fights back. It surfaced for the first time directly after he claimed Vhagar and spoke coldly to the other children confronting him. However, he was also shown as someone loving towards his mother and sister, even cooperative with his brother despite their painfully obvious differences. He cares about his family, he’s brave, he doesn’t appreciate depravity, he’s intellectually advanced, he has ambitions, and believes he should rule because he’s actually responsible and determined.
But he’s still a kid with anger and resentment issues. He’s not fully mature in terms of his character. He and his mother never got justice for the night when he lost his eye. They were discarded and ignored, so naturally, years later, Aemond is strong and capable and ready to receive payment for his debt when his rivals return. This manifests against Luke, who despite being a fairly docile and innocent lad, never bothered to reconcile with his old childhood opponent. He ignored him and even laughed at him during the last dinner they had together. Aemond is furious and wants to even gift Luke’s payment to his mother. He wants the justice he was deprived of. He doesn’t want to kill Luke. He doesn’t even want to blind him. He just wants an eye for an eye, and only that despite literally being on opposite sides of a serious conflict.
But Luke refuses, says nothing, and Aemond is left discarded once again, sending him into a torrent of emotions that lead him to make a very childlike and foolish decision. We have to remember that he and Luke are 19 and 14. They are teenage boys with a score to settle. They aren’t going to make good decisions. Even Aemond, for all his attempts at being responsible and well-read, loses control. Just as Alicent lost her head in a streak of fury and attacked Rhaenyra, so Aemond also gives into his rage and chases Luke with an old dragon that is extremely dangerous.
Aemond doesn’t consider the possibility that Vhagar could go rogue, but when she does, he panics and tries to stop anything from happening. It’s the accidental misfire of a gun, it’s the loss of control over your guard dog when guests arrive. Vhagar, whether it’s because she simply wanted to get back at Arrax for the attack, or because she senses Aemond’s emotions and wants to put an end to the struggle, lashes out and demolishes Luke and Arrax. Both boys lost control of these powerful beasts, because dragons aren’t slaves. Even the riders and mounts with the closest bonds should not expect that animals with minds of their own will always obey every command. The idea that they control the dragons is an illusion.
So now Luke is dead, and Aemond is horrified, revealing to the audience that’s still essentially just a kid with too much power. That right there is when I realized he was going to be a beautifully complex character, likely with a villain’s downfall that leads him to become the enraged madman we see described in the books. The consequences for his slip-up are going to be utterly traumatizing. I can’t explain how elated I was to see this twist. I feel awful for Luke, but I also feel awful for Aemond. His youthful impulsiveness led to something extremely serious. It got real. Just like when Alicent lost control of her blade and scarred Rhaenyra, creating a new rift. Aemond’s loss of control will lead to war and suffering. Like mother, like son.
We just witnessed Aemond’s first kill, and he’s in torment over it. Seeing how he falls further into becoming someone so cruel and violent will be fascinating. I cannot wait to see his arc. Bravo to the writers for this decision!
I'm glad to see someone understands nuance and the greyness of the characters.
There are plenty simple minded fans who prefer to demonize one side and whitewash the other despite all contradictory evidence.
That’s a very nuanced analysis. 👏🏽
Someone who actually understands both characters and is not a biased Rhaenyra fan😢. Bc oh my, that's rare to see. Aemond have every right to hate luke, but everybody loves painting luke like he is just an innocent boy who has done no harm when that couldn't be further from the truth.
Also Luke was 12 in the show and Aemond was 17. Not 14 and 19
It's not a change it's what actually happened, the book was written by biased maesters
This is just even more tragic for everyone, especially Aemond, Lucerys, Helaena, Daemon and Rhaenyra. Aemond didn’t mean to kill Lucerys and Arrax, Vhagar was half-wild. 😢
Aemond's love for his sister Helaena, makes this more tragic. This moment causes her and her children to die horrifically.
Hi, may I ask what is the relevance of heleana? I didnt read the books 🙂
@@phvolleytv a son for a son
A dumb change from the books. Aemond is supposed to be the single most Bloodthirsty character of the dance. Book Aemond would be ashamed of show Aemond only 'accidentally' killing Luke. Book Aemond wanted all the smoke.
Hell some accounts say that in the book, aemond actually went to retrieve Luke's corpse just so he could tesr out his eyes
@@hadokenraikiri6977 Agreed. Although the potential for character depth is much more in the show now with this "mistakenly killing luke" scene, I do feel bad that we probably won't see much of aemund's savagery in the riverlands when he burns so many towns. They're making aemund look soft and weak by showing he has no control over vhagar.
It's interesting to observe how Aemond is receiving support in this situation. Don't forget that he chose to play tag with a youngster and a weapon of mass destruction. They both tragically lost control of their dragons, but Aemond is solely to blame.
Yeah Aemond is truly to blame because at first , it was not right time to discuss about revenge when both were sent as a messenger and other he scared that little dragon in that way that arrax has to spit fire as a defence and that makes Vhagar disrespect so tragedy happened...
A "youngster" that literally took his eye out unpunished.
@@zxylo786 Yeah, after he raised a rock over his head and declared his intent to hurt them. Almond fucked around and Almond found out.
@@Athena908 Doesn't matter. That debt was unpayed for.
@@zxylo786 he got the biggest dragon out of it, seems like a fair trade.
Well I believe it is still Aemond's fault. I understand that his intention was to only play with Luke and Arrax with Vhagar, but he forgot that dragons are not toys. Vhagar is a monster, a 181 year old beast who's been through too much war and bloodshed, and with all that comes a sort of a pride. Arrax is a baby dragon, in age and size both. So, while for Aemond it was just having some fun by getting Vhagar to chase Arrax, for him and Luke it was life-threateningly scary. No wonder Arrax acted out and blasted Vhagar with fire. He was scared and like a scared child, he acted out. And like a proud and petty adult, Vhagar took it personally and well....then she went chomp chomp. Poor Luke. But yeah, my assessment is that Vhagar has become way too old and proud to now listen to a human's command, while Arrax is just too young and still in his teenage, rebellious years (remember how Dany had difficulty controlling Drogon when he was at that age?). Both the dragons acted against their rider's commands, one out of fear and the other out of pride.
But still, it is fitting that the Dance of the Dragons should start because of two dragons and their little fight.
Perfectly explained
Perfectly said
It's like having a dangerous breed of a dog. You can't just make a dog mad at little puppy, he is gonna kill that child😭 some responsibility and common sense for Aemond 😡
Perfectly said 👏
You summed it up perfectly. Aemond still needs to be held accountable for this.
Aemond: "I want the boy's eye."
Vhagar: "What's that? You want the boy to die? Ok."
What angers me is Queen Rhaenyra wanted peace but after this and the lose of her unborn baby, her crown then her son can't blame her for choosing war
this always made me sad because rhaenyra didn’t even wanted war, it was until they killed her son that she knew she had no other choice
*princess
@@MrMinevision1 not princess she was crowned at the episode The Black Queen
@@cosmaslastrwafa176 The way the history views it in game of thrones she was never a queen and nobody is ever a true monarch unless they sit and claim the iron throne whcih she never did so even her own future descendants don't claim her to be a true queen.
To be fair I don’t think flying out in the open did much for Luke, only an easier target
Yes.
That wasn't his intentions nor was he trying to fire blast Vhegar, both their dragon went rogue.
Luke intention was to hide and then flee.
Aemond intention was to scare the living shit out of Luke not to murder him.
Based on the context of them speaking high valerian
@@kimstew Truth.
So he's the Rickon of this show?
it could have been to Arrax's advantage if he flew at full speed when the skies were clear. The smaller dragon is clearly faster than Vhagar.
”A dragon is not a slave” - Daenerys Targaryen
"When did the dornish got the dragons visenya?"
"No vhagar"
"For Meraxes !!! "
Lol
😂😂😂😂😂 perfect
Fucking vhagar got dementia XD
this senior citizen is getting out of control 😭😭😭
💀💀💀
Sad. I really liked Lucerys character and was happy to see him develop. However Aemond has such a deeper character than I thought too. At first I thought he's a plain psychopath with a preference for holding a grudge like his momma. But at the end he's just a hurt soul who cant let go of what was done to him. Imagine you get bullied your whole life and then that bully takes your eye. Then you are given like the greatest weapon ever. Obviously he never wanted to kill Luc. He might had the wish to harm him in some way or mock him like they did with him when he was younger. Which in some kind of way is relateable.
dont forget that they also grew together. no matter what kind of bully luke was, they were raised as brothers. only alicent made her kids toxic which paid off here. aemond just wanted an eye from luke because he lost one because of him. aemond got my sympathy but unfortunately both sides will blame him for drawing the first blood. there is no going back now
Okay calm down with the bully stuff they teased him for not having a dragon aemond just can’t take a joke
@Merlin losing ? I took out my eye on purpose. Then I ate a bowl of nails for breakfast……….without milk
@Merlin seriously tho the worst they did was give him a pig
@@arcanelight8365 Alicent made her kids toxic? Are we forgetting that Rhaenyra gaslit for her own kids to begin with by calling for the kid who got maimed to get tortured for calling her kids names?
,, Dragons can never truly be controled by anyone, even their mother "- Jorah Mormont
,, The idea we control dragons is a illusion "- Viserys the Peaceful
,, With great power must also come a great responsibility "- Old Ben Parker
He who doesn't know the last doesn't desearve to be powerful.
This is the one of the best changes ever done to any source material .. makes characters more fleshed out and real.
The source material is from a bias prospective... This is what actually happened
I thought that the fight with Daemon would be epic, but now I understand - it will be a tragedy.
This comment… 😭😭😭
i wonder what would aemond and daemon talk about? maybe aemond would tell the truth about lucerys to him ...... even thinking about it makes me feel tragic. i hated book aemond but this guy. im sorry for whats coming your way aemond
lucerys just dissapeared...damn. and the after shot of arrax's ripped apart body and wings just floating to the ground like a helicopter seed from a maple tree was graphic...wow. I didn't expect a dead dragon to bother me like this.
My heart is broken 💔
Same, I know they're fictional. But animal cruelty always upsets me. I'm not looking forward to the violence of next season, especially Baela and the dragonpit.
I knew the dragon's deaths were going to be hard to watch😔😔
@@Taygon094 with humans, you can always think; What if they deserved it? With an animal, you know they're the victim, and that they're completely innocent in the matter. Animals react to situations, and unfortunately, Arrax's instinctual reaction to try and protect Lucerys ultimately resulted in both of their deaths.
@@Taygon094 Lucerys deserved it just as little. But, even if it's a mistake of his childhood, he was involved in the removal of Aegon's eye, so there is that ever so slight justification, no matter how little. The dragon has zero involvement in the rising conflict, and is simply the companion to the person who bonded with it, and yet it still pays with its life.
I love how this death happens exactly as the storm ended, just when you thought he'll be safe
I really liked this change. It made me look at this scene from the dragon’s perspective. Aemond is just playing a game. But Vhagar is an old dragon, she’d probably rather be sleeping in a den somewhere but instead she has to fly aemond all over Westeros. He starts chasing luke and arrax, who were both fearing for their lives. Arrax has never even ridden this far before let alone been chased by the worlds biggest dragon. He got scared and defended himself and luke, and Vhagar got real tired of the game with this puny dragon and ate him out of the sky. But that dragon was carrying Rhaenyra Targaryen’s son. Aemond forgot to respect the power he held and the punishment is arguably the worst war Westeros has ever seen.
That one careless act sealed the fate of the last dragons in the world, by the end of The Dance, there were only two left alive.
To sum things up. Lucerys should have given Aemond the eye
The worst war is the song of ice and fire or the previous war agains the cold
@@soundwhisperer1058 The "song of ice and fire" is a prophecy, not a war, idiot.
he should have chilled out for like 40 mins and let that rain stop,fuck you flying fo?
I love the change from the dark storm to an open, bright clearing right before Vhagar strikes.
I could see how this event could shape him into the death monger we get in the books, everyone thinks he did it, so he leans into the curb
Yup. That could provide more context to the rampage in the Riverlands. Like “Fine, make me your villain, I’ll burn the whole lot of you”
Which will make him alot similar to book tyrion and way more intresting as a character
And Blood for blood begins.......
Waiting for the dance!
CANT WAIIIT
I think Aemond's idea where he chases a new dragon with literally a walking war machine that has survived several battles was not a good idea...
This is actually a great reinterpretation of the event from the books.
Jace and luke's valyrian accent is so beautiful, they sounds so natural.
Arrax basically signed their death warrants-what did he think he was gonna DO other than endanger his Luke way, WAY more??
Dragons don't yield. No matter how small they are. Some even tried to go out swinging against The Cannibal.
@@ryguyk9375
Who's The Cannibal?
@@terminallove3531 some ferocious big ass wild dragon
@@terminallove3531 He's a wild dragon, from what I remember he's the most violent one.
@@terminallove3531 A wild dragon that was huge and possibly as old or older than Vhagar. He ate young dragons, dragon eggs, etc. Any dragon he came across he wanted to devour.
Vaghar is like, TF you mean no? I can literally read your thoughts.
“Mother have mercy on us all”
“You have only lost one eye, how could you be so blind?” Alicent and Otto on learning of Luke’s death
Shoutout to Arrax for being able to fly with his massive balls of valyrian steel
I think the show added the depth we needed as viewers to justify how the rest of fire and blood transpired, and not suddenly have aemond be a cold blood kinslayer for no good reason.
The book of fire and blood were all eye witnesses accounts any way. Hope this doesn’t cause discourse, just appreciating the show for its story building in a fan’s perspective.
When I first read fire and blood years ago it made little sense to me why Aemond would KILL his nephew. This made much more sense
it was weird to see aemond wanting to kill luce. but damn this makes more sense
I wonder an eye witness in the clouds, close enough to give reliable witness
The book was written by maesters who hated the targarians. How would the maesters have seen this happen ? They were trying to paint the targarians as monsters. The show tells us what actually happened.
@@northernyetigaming8566 more sense this way
Grandma didn't have that disrespect in her sky 😂😂😂
I bet that ride back to King’s Landing was quite AF
Alicent: How did your meeting go with Lord Baratheon. I assume they will help us defend the realm without bloodshed.
Aemond: Yea it went well, and Vaeghar ate Luke and his dragon.
Alicent: PLEASE DEAR GODS, JUST END MY LIFE. 💀💀💀
Nahhh Alicent will act disappointed but really she gonna be satisfied because Otto already wanted to kill them and she knew she low key agree.
@@angelbass5175 exactly
@@lyd7136 i would be shocked if she send condolences. But I feel like she gonna prepare for war, it’s no way to avoid it. Even it was a accident it won’t look like it to everyone else
@@angelbass5175 what ur joking wasnt her whole argument that they shouldn't be killed. last ep
that must have been quite awkward silent ride back home
This actually makes sense with Vhagar being so old and willfull and Arrax being young and dumb. I also like how this Aemond didn't really choose to do this himself.
it says in the book if the storm wasn’t there , Arrax could have easily flown Vhagar out. You can see the little fragon has to flap its wings alot due to the wind, where as Vhagar just glides through it like a jumbo jet.
He was just a baby; a 13 year old boy with little to no experience and flew under a peace banner. Not to mention the fact that he was reluctant to be involved in the first place, and only went for his love of his mother and his family. This was a tragic end for such sweet and gentle character
He deserved his death, let's be honest.
his wife is already pregnant and his son will avenge him
Poor arrax, he was so terrified and did a terrible mistake
The moment Lucerys saw Vhagar on setting foot, he would have thought "That raven doesn't seem a bad idea now"
Aemond: Nooo Vhagar Nooo!
Vhagar: Shut up boy Grandma wants a snack.
Lmao
The fucking Dragon killed Arrax without Daemons permission and started the war…. Bloody hell
Aemond: "It was just a prank bro!!!"
Vhagar be like : " Bitches, ain't listen to y'all, that lil brat spit on my face, I'm gonna split him into two" lmao
Little dragon was scared by Aemond moves so it spit fire as a defense so it was Aemond mistake not dragons..he should not play with that machine can't be controlled.
@@sanjivtamang4338 exactly
@@sanjivtamang4338 Who cares, I'm happy to see Vhagar to torn that lil bastard to pieces lol.
@@spellonyou7987 ahh so you are against Interracial Marriage lol....what a racist comment....
Man… he wasn’t strong enough
one of the best scenes of the entire GOT/HOD series.
The roar after vhagar killed arrax was like “fuck around and find out”!
This ep really put into perspective how big Vhagar really is!
he's only 5 times the size of Arrax in the books, but more like 100 times the size here, absolutely huge
@@TankieBoi yup
Otto: How could you be so blind having lost only one eye?
nothing in GoT and HoD hurts my heart more than seeing a dragon die. this scene shocked me :( just like the deaths of Rhaegal and Viserion :(
Rhaegal dying was stupid. So was this scene. Also visually unimpressive
I think Vhagar got protective of Aemond as Arryx’s fire could have hurt him as well and the little dragon basically enraged a dragon who had a long history of bloodshed and dared to hurt her pride. The end for Lucerys was sad but a miscalculation on Rhaenyra’s plans of thinking Baratheons will give a warm welcome to her son . As she should have known Greens were planning this for a longer time then she ever could have recalled. Also she left Kings Landing knowing her father could die at any moment she gave them a chance and they took it her downfall was on her own hands.
She didn't listen to Damon and did the same as her dad
@@user-dr7ru8pm3d that is why both loved one another unconditionally.
@@user-dr7ru8pm3d Rhaenyra is her father’s daughter. She is very much like him. Which can be good thing. Viserys was a good man
I mean can u blame the little dragon ?vhagar big asf and aemond was chasing them, not to mention arryxs could barley fly in the rain and was scared. I think it was trying to protect its self and it’s rider, and vice versa for vhagar with aemond when arryxs shot that fire at vhagar.
@Your_local_fangirl it's the smaller dragons instict to defend itself by bursting fire. what do you expect if a larger dragon is chasing you. Both boys failed to control their dragons.
Aemond has redeemed this show in my eyes.
Me too, such a well written and nuanced character.
easily my fave character, I’m afraid he’s gonna upset a few people down the track the damage he’s gonna cause
@@jord1215 ohhhh yes he is lol
Aemond wanted the boy dead, that’s why Vhagar killed him, they are bonded
" Dragons. A power men should have never played with ".
- Corys Velaryon
Next season Rhaenyra will be ruthless. She suffer so much pain.
I like that they're humanizing the characters more. Everyone is just a bloodthirsty psychopath in the book.
You have to remember that fire and blood is a maester source. The maesters have an incredible hateful bias towards Targaryens in general so of course they’d portray the Aemond as a vengeful killer.
R.I.P. Rhaenera's sweet prince i knew it was coming but my heart sank the moment Vhagar opened her mouth and chomped
I love how his face goes from "uh oh" to "ohhhhh I fucked uuuuup.... I fucked uuuuup..."
This just adds more layer to Aemond's character. Damn, what a tragedy. Even tho its fiction, it's still heartbreakingly sad. Rhaenrya lost 2 children in 1 episode, and the last thing Luke remembered was being eaten alive and killed by his uncle.
*Uncle’s dragon.
@@theboyisso6960 the dragon is his uncle
@@Dickmaster-adam no it isnt. Yes the people will think it was Aemond but Vhagar was rogue. A dragon is not a slave
@@annabougato9628 uhm you do realize it was a joke right?
Actually his corpse washes up on the shore so he probably died from the impact of the dragon or the fall
Arrax was a baby dragon whereas Vhagar has been around for more than a hundred years. Aemond's hubris led him to believe he could control such a massive veteran war dragon.
Really liking this version
Aemond didn’t want to kill Luke. This was meant merely to be another one of their childish pissing contests. He may be a Daemon type bad boy and he may not like Luke, but he isn’t a mindless evil asshole. Aemond himself is still just a kid, and he’s just accidentally killed his little nephew. There is a moment of great regret and fear in Aemond when Vhagar kills him.
That was a fight between their dragons none of the boys wanted their dragon to attack the other one.
The only one who I kept in my heart as innocent and good in this scenario. This was brutal damm...
This felt like watching Jurassic Park as a kid. The danger and terror of being chased by a gigantic beast will put you on the edge of your seat
A lot of people won’t like this but I prefer this over the way the books described it. Dragons are not slaves, they have minds of their own and even though people have the illusion that they are controlled as Viserys said they do not have 100% control. But also, Damnit Aemond what did you think was going to happen Nanny Vhagar is always down to cause chaos.
Vhagar: fine, I'll do it myself.
I’m so glad they are giving more depth the Aemonds character. With how much they’ve made the Greens into villains I figured they would amplify the bloodlust in this scene.
If you think they’ve made the Greens into villains you haven’t been paying attention. Aside from Otto they have all proved to be multilayered. Especially Alicent, who is much more one-dimensional in the book.
@@lyd7136 Cristin Cole is a villain aswell. Aegon too since he's a rapist.
Alicent is grey, Haelenas actually good. And then Aemond seemed villainous in the last 2 episodes, here he wanted Luke's eye but he didn't want to actually kill Luke or Arrax? He's a bit tricky to understand compared to the rest.
@@NobleBoss Aegon never raped anyone in the book. He did molest girls though.
@@NobleBoss hmm I guess I forgot about Crispin and the drunktard. Although for Criston, I think it can be argued that he was taken advantage of. The power imbalance (in terms of social class and rank) between him and Rhaenyra has been swept under the rug by a lot of fans of the show it seems. The stain on his sacred vows (all for nothing in his mind) is something he never got over apparently. He’s still an asshole and it doesn’t justify his behavior later on, but his motives are more understandable than they are in the book.
@@NobleBoss aegon is much more complicated than that tbh, his whole life he was nothing but a disgrace to his family which ended up molding him to the vile thing he is but now he knows that the people love him , for the first time in his whole life he feels like he's worthy.
I feel "cursed is the kinslayer" is another the reason why Ameond was upset. He didn't want to kill Luc, just mess with him and claim his eye as debt.
Aemond just wanted to scare him... but the dragons...
He wanted to take his eye, no more, but the dragons took that more personally than they
@@TheFoshaMan i agree, but he was also having fun chasing his nephew down... until vhagar got mad because she got disrespected by a kid dragon
@@demospetsas7063 poor Arrax 😢
@@TheFoshaMan people keep saying this but how the hell would he have gotten ONLY his eye several feet in the air chasing him and trying to torment him and his dragon??