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    Former senior Conservative Party politician Michael Portillo investigates why the issue of Europe has been tearing apart the party he loves for so long.
    #England #Tories #PM

Komentáře • 544

  • @DavidOatney
    @DavidOatney Před 3 lety +141

    I'd like to see a sequel to this in the wake of the 2019 General Election.

    • @philb4462
      @philb4462 Před 3 lety +6

      Agreed, but also in the wake of Brexit itself.

    • @johnjaw19
      @johnjaw19 Před 3 lety +2

      Yes me too

    • @peterlovett5841
      @peterlovett5841 Před 3 lety +5

      Agreed but it would also need to look at places like Scotland and Northern Ireland and their views on Brexit. These two episodes were fascinating but very England centric.

    • @igotvaccinated2816
      @igotvaccinated2816 Před 3 lety +16

      The amount of abuse the numpty Labour party supporters handed out abuse to the electorate then their *surprised pikachu face* when the British public slapped them to their worst election result since 1935

    • @polla2256
      @polla2256 Před 3 lety +3

      ...then a follow up post COVID

  • @christopherhulse8385
    @christopherhulse8385 Před 3 lety +29

    Portillo wasted his time in politics, he is an excellent presenter on TV.
    Clear, easy to understand English that is sadly lacking in many other presenters today.

  • @moptopbaku6022
    @moptopbaku6022 Před 3 lety +38

    Very very good video and really well written and presented by Michael Portillo. He is a loss to politics but it has allowed him to make some excellent travel videos in addition to this and its predecessor

    • @neilbeeneilbee4783
      @neilbeeneilbee4783 Před 3 lety +1

      The irony being that we can no longer travel..lol

    • @aarondavis8943
      @aarondavis8943 Před rokem

      Not a fan of his politics but this series was fantastic. As objective as a political doco gets.

  • @JmpaulOfficial
    @JmpaulOfficial Před 3 lety +61

    I was searching for this second episode after watching the first yesterday. And I’m happy you’ve uploaded this. Thanks !!!

    • @JOURNEYS7
      @JOURNEYS7  Před 3 lety +16

      Enjoy!

    • @marioisright377
      @marioisright377 Před 3 lety +5

      @@JOURNEYS7 great content

    • @vdotme
      @vdotme Před 3 lety +3

      With 15 ad slots in a 56min video? 😳😳😳😳Just watched ad free ep1.

    • @johnwinthrop2702
      @johnwinthrop2702 Před 3 lety +1

      You know you suck at your job when you lose to fucking Corbyn lol

  • @iainmccowie9665
    @iainmccowie9665 Před 3 lety +30

    Excellent episode!! Portillo was a big loss to politics

    • @petervharris
      @petervharris Před 3 lety

      I hope you are joking..........!!

    • @iainmccowie9665
      @iainmccowie9665 Před 3 lety +1

      @@petervharris He's no Boris, but he would have been a great leader ...... still time for him to serve again in high office

  • @lewisclark1122
    @lewisclark1122 Před 3 lety +34

    Already, this mini series feels like ancient history! Just think about everything that's happened in the last 18 months.
    Still, it was a good watch, so thank you for uploading this.

  • @jacklewis3803
    @jacklewis3803 Před 3 lety +50

    I’m a Labour man myself, but I love listening to Portillo

    • @igotvaccinated2816
      @igotvaccinated2816 Před 3 lety +13

      my condolences. Labour fxcked this country up.

    • @nathanosgood4959
      @nathanosgood4959 Před 3 lety +16

      @@igotvaccinated2816 if you truly believe that, please stop using our NHS.

    • @igotvaccinated2816
      @igotvaccinated2816 Před 3 lety +19

      @@nathanosgood4959 I work in the NHS, I've seen first hand what the Labour party has done to the NHS... with Tony Blair, leftwing trotsky proclaiming ''I want 70% of NHS operations in the private sector''... now we have mass uncontrolled migration forced on the poorest, instead of our elderly being cared for, after years upon years of investing their taxes and paying their dues into the NHS, are now swept aside for anyone that comes into the country without health insurance getting priority. Shameful.

    • @nathanosgood4959
      @nathanosgood4959 Před 3 lety +11

      M R of course you do. What Are you talking about. Blair? Trotsky? The Tory’s are endlessly in power and you blame labour? The NHS was created under one of the few labour governments and your pals are selling it off, they don’t want it. It’s the last bastion of socialism in this country, why would they?

    • @igotvaccinated2816
      @igotvaccinated2816 Před 3 lety +8

      @@nathanosgood4959 You thought you were going to denigrate to me, an NHS worker and virtue signal over the NHS from a Labour perspective... hilarious. I've seen first hand what your Trotskyist Tony Blair did to the NHS, I worked with 3 electricians and 4 plumbers when I started, back in 2001, by the time of 2008, there was only 1 of those workers there, 1 electrician. Me. So don't ever think you're going to virtue signal over the NHS, ever. Because of your leftwing Tony Blair government i've seen the NHS reduced to dust, dodgy contractors and selling off industry like security, maintenance to the private sector... in the words of Tony Blair ''I aim to have at least 70% of NHS operations int he private sector.'' Shameful.
      Tony Blair literally admitted that was a trotskyist while at Oxford, a very far-left political movement.
      Fxck Labour.

  • @grose2961
    @grose2961 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for posting. Ep 2 even better than 1. Would love to see an update . Portillo’s great at this.

  • @jamiemorris6088
    @jamiemorris6088 Před 3 lety +14

    Haha good old Osborne completely wrong at the end 🤣

  • @kevinbrown4073
    @kevinbrown4073 Před 3 lety +3

    So glad you uploaded both episodes

  • @tommybowyer4549
    @tommybowyer4549 Před 3 lety +9

    Thanks for the uploads; these are great!

  • @philipbrooks402
    @philipbrooks402 Před 3 lety +25

    Journeys, whoever you are. Thank you for uploading both these fascinating episodes, which I had missed when first aired. Out of your control but we now need an episode three. Like life, politics never stops.

  • @annelivett7161
    @annelivett7161 Před 22 dny

    How iove Michael portillo he is always a pleasure to watch would have been a great prime minister would love to
    Meet him excellent presenter ❤❤anne Darlington

  • @sbwords
    @sbwords Před 3 lety +1

    Great stuff. Thanks for uploading.

  • @akali83
    @akali83 Před 3 lety

    Nice one mate, thanks for the upload.

  • @Mark-el8sb
    @Mark-el8sb Před 3 lety +25

    Very interesting, though notable in the absence of interviews with David Cameron and Theresa May..

    • @ardakolimsky7107
      @ardakolimsky7107 Před 3 lety

      Why would they agree to be interviewed?

    • @esseker6320
      @esseker6320 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ardakolimsky7107 True, just like Boris utterly useless.

    • @Mark-el8sb
      @Mark-el8sb Před 3 lety

      @@ardakolimsky7107 Maybe just to share their perspective and version of events?

    • @ardakolimsky7107
      @ardakolimsky7107 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Mark-el8sb So, the two architects of the Conservative Party's existential crisis would happily give their thoughts on how and why they fucked up so badly?
      Too soon.

    • @robertmacleod6221
      @robertmacleod6221 Před 3 lety +1

      2 waste of spaces

  • @Mitjitsu
    @Mitjitsu Před 19 dny

    The issue following the referendum was caused by the fact 5 out of 6 MP's were in favour of remaining.

  • @jasonellison660
    @jasonellison660 Před rokem +1

    lol. the last sentance in this is priceless. "It wont be over when its over...the the curse of europe will probably devour him too sooner or later." Fantastic documentary.

  • @bhattkris
    @bhattkris Před 3 lety +1

    Fascinating. Imagine I was reading the autobiography of Geoffrey Howe. It mentions you towards the end when he was about to move out.

  • @god-fearingenglishman5254

    Tony Blair makes my blood boil.

    • @jaquesravalec242
      @jaquesravalec242 Před 3 lety

      Three general election victories.

    • @susannamarker2582
      @susannamarker2582 Před 3 lety +1

      Blair was a communist at Oxford, and studied law. Law and communism, a dangerous mixture.

    • @TheJayddub
      @TheJayddub Před 2 lety

      Anthony Eden II

  • @kaythomas5884
    @kaythomas5884 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent work Michael Portillo!!

  • @philipbrooks402
    @philipbrooks402 Před 3 lety +6

    Anna Soubry at 2.10 saying 'We made a terrible mistake on Friday.' The vote was on the Thursday so perhaps that is why she lost. Didn't understand the date. LOL.

  • @christinelivesey9077
    @christinelivesey9077 Před 3 lety +2

    Please give us another episode!

  • @McGon1
    @McGon1 Před 3 lety +1

    Great documentary. An absurd numbers and adverts!!

  • @catmonarchist8920
    @catmonarchist8920 Před 3 lety +8

    According to the latest poll on Britain Elects the Tories are at 44% despite pandemic mistakes. Few parties globally have that much support on their best days and with the UK election system they have a near unassailable advantage. They have clearly done something right.

    • @davideddy2672
      @davideddy2672 Před 3 lety

      What they’ve done ‘right’ is secured power and every means to keep it - their support in the polls, well it’s hardly surprising given the exceedingly poor representation and character, substance and rhetoric of the opposing parties. Labour is in no way a Labour Party, The Liberal Democrats - neither Liberal or Democratic. As for the Green farts and UKIP variants ... A coalition of Stinky Rebellion and the Black Liberation Movement is a scary prospect as it gathers populist support of the lowest, this country is in the shit!

    • @igotvaccinated2816
      @igotvaccinated2816 Před 3 lety +2

      @@davideddy2672 UKIP is nowhere near parliament. What you've failed to recognise there is the domination of leftwing parties that don't represent their people at all on any level. Fxck the leftwing in this country. Useless.

    • @davideddy2672
      @davideddy2672 Před 3 lety

      @@igotvaccinated2816 - I’ve not failed to recognise the obvious - as I say, we’re in the shit!

    • @danieleyre8913
      @danieleyre8913 Před 3 lety +2

      Or they’ve had the media on their side.

    • @catmonarchist8920
      @catmonarchist8920 Před 3 lety

      @@danieleyre8913 Only 51.3% voted Biden despite the entire media establishment being on his side and running bad stories about his opponent for the previous five years and that's in a total two horse race for a single position. The media can only take you so far and it is no where near as pro Boris as it pro Biden. It has to be accepted that the Tories have widespread and real support and it's not going anywhere unless something seriously changes.

  • @smiths121
    @smiths121 Před 3 lety +8

    Hope Michael does a follow up. The end of the last parliament, Boris running a minorty government, the splits getting personal, and throwing MPS out of the tory party. Just a reaction to the impass in parliament, or the conservative finally dealling with the divide in their party? Think Michael could a good job of analusing this.

    • @TreeMovies
      @TreeMovies Před 2 lety

      And then a followup in the two years since this comment!

  • @TM-yr3pc
    @TM-yr3pc Před 3 měsíci +1

    Westland exposed Heseltine as a self serving ambitious iconoclast. Certainly no patriot with his integrationist views….and yet he is now reinvented as some sort of sage from the past….

  • @tarquinbullocks1703
    @tarquinbullocks1703 Před 3 lety +1

    Portillo presents an excellent examination of the Tories and Europe.
    But, in the last ten minutes the question's right there. What can Starmer do to take advantage of this disarray amongst the Conservatives?
    Tony Blair, in his day, knew exactly how to show Labour as the credible alternative.
    And then he won.

    • @prodigiii712
      @prodigiii712 Před 3 lety

      Tories are United. Brexit is behind and yet they somehow still use it to steal northern seats from Labour. There’s nothing Kier Starmer can do to stop the tories.

  • @yehoshuazohar6698
    @yehoshuazohar6698 Před 3 lety +11

    As all of Portillo's documentaries, this is excellent work. However, now that Brexit is a done deal and no longer an issue, it is slightly dated.

    • @danellis-jones1591
      @danellis-jones1591 Před 3 lety +5

      It's not done yet. The economic and political outcomes are yet to be felt.

    • @JG-qt3pn
      @JG-qt3pn Před 3 lety +4

      "...Brexit is a done deal and no longer an issue...". ROFL. Keep thinking that. They need you to keep thinking that.

    • @standalby6949
      @standalby6949 Před 3 lety +1

      You are joking right ? It’s all about keeping the city mile happy 😃

    • @leeshepherd6512
      @leeshepherd6512 Před 3 lety

      Like all of history? 🤣

    • @MrDaiseymay
      @MrDaiseymay Před 3 lety

      @@danellis-jones1591 you could say that about every General election ever held.

  • @BubbleGendut
    @BubbleGendut Před 3 lety +10

    @29:20 yes the conservatives did ruin people with mortgages I nearly lost my house and many people lost theirs or had negative equities.
    Thatcher encouraged home ownership then her party did this to people.

    • @igotvaccinated2816
      @igotvaccinated2816 Před 3 lety

      and the left still act like her selling off of council houses was a good thing... the left really are numpties

    • @conscienceaginBlackadder
      @conscienceaginBlackadder Před 3 lety

      and from 1996 the left ignored, exactly same as the Tory media were bound to,, that rent + mortgages no longer constitutionallly exist. courtchange.wordpress.com/security-of-tenure/

    • @igotvaccinated2816
      @igotvaccinated2816 Před 3 lety

      @@conscienceaginBlackadder from 1997+ the left, the leftwing media and the leftwing establishment forced mass uncontrolled migration on the poorest, thus inducing a spike in house prices leaving them only affordable to rich russian oligarchs.

    • @prodigiii712
      @prodigiii712 Před 3 lety +1

      That’s why they paid. 13 years out of government is record for tories.

    • @igotvaccinated2816
      @igotvaccinated2816 Před 3 lety +1

      @@prodigiii712 Yep, most people don't want woke leftwing parasites like Labour in charge. Shame they vote for zombies like the tories tho, but then again, every party in parliament in leftwing.

  • @simongaines7723
    @simongaines7723 Před 2 lety +3

    The abiding feeling from these two documentaries is what an ambitious, narcissistic, and general snake in the grass Heseltine was and is.

  • @Swift-mr5zi
    @Swift-mr5zi Před 3 lety +9

    What Boris has done is quite incredible

    • @achbanilacran2061
      @achbanilacran2061 Před 3 lety +3

      what is that, mate? shafting the UK? that he did boy, that he did! Incredible this boris! like a fat superman!

  • @marioisright377
    @marioisright377 Před 3 lety +2

    We need more episodes pls

  • @nudisco300
    @nudisco300 Před 2 lety +1

    People like Nick Bowles were dispised for their anti democracy stance. They continually disregarded that it was a referendum, not a party policy for up for discussion. The people of Britain voted to leave regardless of his personal view.
    It's like they couldn't grasp that the people had spoken and that it wasn't up for debate.
    Seperate matter - what a waste of space Hague was.

  • @dontpanic1812
    @dontpanic1812 Před 3 lety

    Very wonderful series. Well done. Incredible interviews, lovely breakdown of the conservative perspective concerning everything that built up EU skepticism within the Tory Party.
    Not to be an alarmist, but I have a feeling all the in-fighting and resistance and lack of cooperation is to prevent Britain from becoming the next Nazi state in Europe and threat to the world, which is so profoundly ironic, one's head explodes when it's contemplated. To come out of that tailspin, one has to watch "Iron Sky" as a brain scrubber to alleviate their fears and find rationality again.
    Rationally-speaking, Americans are in greater danger of the state of affairs turning toward this horrific possibility, as it's coming from both of their two most powerful political parties, with each deriving purpose and backing from continuing to fight against such extremism. We've entered an era of attrition now, where all common ground has been lost, the electorate having been thoroughly manipulated and radicalized by their respective media sources. Have a feeling Tony Blair and Nick Boles have the right of it: we're suffering from an overabundance of ideology, the main thing high on the list that unnaturally generates irrationality, mindless hubris and noncooperation-- key components in ensuring the opposite of sensible, stable, practical governance.
    It's almost supernatural how rigid loyalty to ideology makes people righteously unreasonable, blind to reason, critique and self-awareness.
    Fortunately, the British government's most egregious sin focuses predominantly upon covertly tearing down the social safety net. The American government is skipping all that, going for all the silver, covertly tearing down dependency upon the vote, completely abandoning her citizens out of necessity. (Can't do anything without first retaining power, right? Election campaigns are expensive, an economy all their own.)
    Only hope is many on both sides of the political divide are finally getting what they've always wanted: laissez-faire economics, free markets and no governmental interference, simply because the government's no longer interested in such things, is no longer interested in the welfare of her citizens.
    Could be a lot worse than it is, yet no one appreciates that, refusing to acknowledge what's going on.
    Thought spin was going to kill us all, then I thought it was cherry-picking. Guess it's been ideology all along!

  • @paulscousedownie
    @paulscousedownie Před 3 lety +6

    I enjoyed both episodes immensely! Yes I
    agree with Micheal’s assessment that Brexit will Devour Johnson as well!

    • @adrianaspbury2970
      @adrianaspbury2970 Před 3 lety

      Interesting but I can’t see it. Johnson seems to of re shaped the conservatives in his landslide general election victory.
      But I would be surprised if he sits another term he really doesn’t seem to sit well in Scotland. For the greater good I think his only going to have one term.

    • @Samgurney88
      @Samgurney88 Před 3 lety

      @Zuurker U I doubt it. The economic impact will become apparent only slowly, as the rest of Europe slowly overtakes us. Currently many of the transitional problems are also being obscured by the chaos of the pandemic. For now I think the public is fatigued by the whole issue, and is happy simply to see it put to rest. The subtleties of economic statistics have no influence the public mind at all until they become much more tangible, obvious and dramatic. It could take decades before the realisation about the economic impact takes hold of majority public opinion. Recognition of our diminished global influence might also be delayed by the fact that we are an extraordinarily militaristic country with a real talent for cosying ourselves under the wings of the Americans. Boris is a wiley political operator, and I think he's tapping into something by opting for his faux-populist, nationalistic, authoritarian posturing to give the illusion of solidity to the whole crumbling edifice of our political institutions. Maybe that will be enough to distract people from their sense of powerlessness and despair which created this whole crisis in the first place - who knows?
      By the time all of the dust of Brexit has settled, to enable a clearer retrospective view of it all, much of the older generation will have died off and been replaced by a fresher cohort of the electorate, who tend to be more internationally oriented anyway. By that point the world will be even more engulfed by the chaos of climate breakdown - on our current trajectory, it will probably start having major effects on the global economy by the middle of the century - and it's impossible to say what will have become of European institutions by then. We seem to have set ourselves on course for quite antagonistic relations with Europe, and it wouldn't surprise me if that will sour things even more. It would be ludicrous if our relations with Europe are still at the top of our agenda and causing us turmoil in twenty, thirty or forty years time, but since when does absurdity rule anything out in politics?
      Personally, I hope Brexit damages our economy and diminishes our power in the world as much as possible. Growthism is ecological cancer and we are a small, imperialistic country with post-colonial delusions of grandeur. Perhaps Brexit is just the kind of self-inflicted injury we needed. There should be riots against the whole rotten system, irrespective of the whole Brexit psychodrama.

    • @justwhenyouthought6119
      @justwhenyouthought6119 Před 3 lety

      @@Samgurney88 Of course this diatribe is predicated on Europe's performance and economic fortunes which are far from predictable or certain. It is all speculation of the most self-deprecating kind.
      Damage to the country and our economy, well personally you would hope, that much is obvious.
      But then ideologues are always one thing at least and that is obvious.

    • @Samgurney88
      @Samgurney88 Před 3 lety

      @@justwhenyouthought6119 I agree that "Europe's performance and economic fortunes... are far from predictable or certain", and said as much myself. I still stand by the prediction that Europe will have higher long-run growth rates. It's true that the Eurozone has its troubles, but I doubt they could cause comparable economic damage to Europe as Brexit has and will to the UK, and even if they could there would still be some economic spillover to the UK.
      There's a difference between wild speculation and predictions based on firm evidence. Time will tell, and I'll wager large sums that what few predictions I've made will be vindicated.
      I don't know what your notion of "ideologue" entails. It would be a strange one if it excludes those enthusiasts of Brexit who insist that it will lead us unto sunlit uplands, as I suspect it might. In any case, I'd like to know what you imagine a person with no ideological leanings whatsoever would look like?
      The charge of being "obvious" is a strange one, and I'm tempted to plead guilty. I assume you mean predictable? I'd be fascinated to know what you think my supposed ideology is, beyond what I've explicitly given my views on; I suspect you'd get quite a few things wrong. In any case, is it supposed to be a virtue to have a totally randomised, pick'n'mix worldview?

    • @justwhenyouthought6119
      @justwhenyouthought6119 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Samgurney88 Your opinions are driven by your ideological worldview and have no basis in fact.
      It represents as credible a prognosis as all the same old (and tired) arguments made by remain during the referendum campaign with a slab of self loathing added for good effect.
      Wish away what you will, the rest of us will get on with making a success of our lives, family's, communities and our country.
      Have a good evening.

  • @josephstoddart8732
    @josephstoddart8732 Před 3 lety +7

    the trouble with the tories is they are tories

    • @billlansdell7225
      @billlansdell7225 Před 3 lety

      The Tories haven't be Tories since the Duke of Wellington was Prime Minister. Unfortunately, not many of them are conservative either. But then again, Labour have no interest in the labour movement, the Liberal Democrats are neither liberal or democratic, and the Greens are red.

    • @insanityrulestheday
      @insanityrulestheday Před 3 lety +2

      @@billlansdell7225 So, to put it bluntly, they don't know their Arse from their Elbow.

  • @tbdkuphk
    @tbdkuphk Před 3 lety +4

    I'm not British, so I may be missing something, but... in all my 30 years + of interest in British politics I've heard/seen Michael Haseltine numerous times being interviewed, and over many topics. I can't recall once feeling that I either liked him or what he had to say. He looks like an embodiment of the upper class technocrat cliché.

    • @jamescook6477
      @jamescook6477 Před 2 lety

      Cosmetics vs substance. With Clarke, he's the best left of the tories now and more or less has been since he was part of the cabinet. His contempt for Brexit shows he has some reason.

  • @devon896
    @devon896 Před 3 lety +1

    It won't be Brexit that crushes Boris Johnson but Covid and his response.

  • @thomasdorst7358
    @thomasdorst7358 Před 3 lety +7

    i just chuckle watching the end at how wrong Osborne was.

  • @bruh949
    @bruh949 Před 2 lety +1

    At least the 2017 election gave power to the DUPn in confidence and supply, the DUP are brilliant. Also RIP UKIP who died in 2017.

  • @larslarsen5414
    @larslarsen5414 Před 3 lety +7

    Great show. But it would be nice with a little more substance: what exactly is the problem with the EU in the eyes of many Torries?, i.e. which exact rules are the problem and why is the alternative better?

    • @ChimpRiot
      @ChimpRiot Před 3 lety +2

      You can look as recently as 2016 with Cameron's renegotiation and reform of the EU. They humiliated him, gave him nothing, never cared about concerns and showed the British electorate their nature - particularly the odious Macron. The alternative is better because we never gave consent to being part of a new superstate - whatever its rules are.

    • @larslarsen5414
      @larslarsen5414 Před 3 lety +7

      @@ChimpRiot I actually dont think Macron is much better or worse than most UK politicians. And I dont think the EU is "superstate" - the EU has never been more popular than it is right now, partly because it is NOT a superstate, and because Europe is a very good place (not perfect though) to live (based on any parameter you like: healthy, economy, freedom, expected life time, crime, corruption, etc).
      Also, I dont think you are answering the question I was asking (but you can of cause say whatever you like). But to put my question another way: When the UK was member of the EU it had made certains compromises. After leaving the EU, the UK will now have to engage in another set of compromises. So the central question is: How specifically are the new compromises better that the old ones? As I recall Boris also says in this documentary: "It is very easy to just sit back and criticise the EU." That is the easy part. The hard part is to be constructive by providing very specific solutions to the alternative. It seems to be that whenever Brexiteers are asked to be specific about the benefits of Brexit, their arguments fade rapidly in strenght.

    • @Aan_allein
      @Aan_allein Před 3 lety +2

      @@larslarsen5414 Its about who governs. Being part of a EU means a compromise on soverignty in order for a singel market too work. Nor was the question of the four freedoms (especially) freedom of movement from poor countries to rich countries with participatory welfare states ever really discussed in any european country.

    • @larslarsen5414
      @larslarsen5414 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Aan_allein I completely respect the view that it is the nation state that should be the seat of power. and also fully understand the UK is a different kind of economy that the rest of the EU countries. The problem, however, is that in reality no nation is all powerful. All nations, even the US and China, need to compromise. As such, the EU is merely a reflection of a fundamental paradox that al ready is present. The EU did not create this difficult issue, the EU is one way to try to solve it. So, surely the EU creates a democratic challenge that I believe has been, and from time to time still is, strongly debated in all EU memberstates - not only in the UK. But to simply "take back control" is not possible unless you think isolated North Korea is the solution. Which brings us back to the original question: What set of compromises do you prefer?
      With respect to freedom of movement: There are two sides to any story. From the point of view of many EU countries the UK has not been interested in making any compromises for a long time and in particular Camerons behavior at EU top meetings was quite arrogant - it was very clear to all heads of state that Cameron would rather be somewhere else instead of wasting his time with the EU. Thus, when time came and he suddenly demanded fundamental change to the freedom of movement rules there was (unfortunately) little trust and little good will. I wonder, however, if the Brexiteers would ever be happy with any kind of compromise inside the EU? It seems to me that they simply hate the EU?

    • @quentinnewark2745
      @quentinnewark2745 Před 3 lety +2

      @@larslarsen5414 all your points apply the other way round, there is an alternative way of running the EU, as an alliance of sovereign states - much as other alliances like NATO. The idea that a supra-national body has to have a president and independent civil service is one peculiar view, certainly not the “Anglo-Saxon model” - a supra-national currency, a vast trade wall, commissioners acting on behalf of the whole body, this is deliberate erosion of national voters and representative democracy. (And such terrible drafters of contracts!!! as the vaccine mess has shown.) Look to Margaret Thatcher’s Bruges speech for how the EU could be organised. As for your idea that Britain is either in the federalist EU or its North Korea, it is a silly contrast. Britain will now grow closer to the other English-speaking nations, the Anglosphere, Australia, America, NZ, Canada, Singapore, the Five Eyes colleagues, even Japan and Taiwan (hungry for close relationships with other democracies to balance China).

  • @mishapurser4439
    @mishapurser4439 Před 3 lety +1

    I don't think there were enough adverts on the video. Could do with 10 more.

  • @vdotme
    @vdotme Před 3 lety +5

    Brian Rose for Mayor is doing my head in. 🤬

  • @tobeytransport2802
    @tobeytransport2802 Před 2 lety +2

    53:09 that’s a load of cr*p, I’m a young person (16) and I would never vote for a Conservative party that acts like a slightly more centrist version of the Labour Party. Doesn’t he realise that the centrist governance of the late 90s and early 2000s has had its day, it ended in 2016 when the people said they’d had enough with the conservatives acting like a centrist labour, and also labour was acting like a centrist Conservative party. Boris Johnson, apart from his strict covid policy, actually has the favour of me. And I will say that I am definitely in the minority of young people, most of whom vote labour however turning the conservatives towards the centre didn’t work, and it won’t work because it alienates voters who are actually conservatives, why would a young cosmopolitan rich person who has decided to vote labour decide to vote conservatives anyway, the thing the conservatives need is to stop kneeling down before Londoners, and Before Labour. The conservatives have no future in London, but they have a future outside of it. Find your voting base and encourage them to come out and vote for you, make people in the north of England realise that you actually resonate with them because two reasons, number outside london (I live in the south but not in London) we feel like we aren’t being heard and two there are more seats outside London! What a surprise! Wake up people, isn’t it funny how Boris won many more seats than May, because he gave strong promises rather than a bland, centrist with no vision like May.

  • @merseydave1
    @merseydave1 Před 7 měsíci

    I do not watch channel 5 so I did not see this when it was transmitted, I would like to say that I was impressed by the quality of the documentary. I am not a tory, I am a Socialist ... however I can watch this objectively and understand the issues within the tory party and the splinter parties ukip brexit and reform. It is obvious that the tories will be heavily beaten in the next general election, just like 1997 and 2001. As I am 58, I see the tories in the same situation as Labour after the 1979 general election loss (Labour was not heavily beaten then) yet it tore itself apart and the s.d.p. in 1981 came about as a consequence of its in-fighting ... I predict a similar situation for the tories when they are out of government and ... will they ever come back ???

  • @p0licenthieves
    @p0licenthieves Před 3 lety +1

    Such a nice bloke since he left politics. See what it does to people.

    • @insanityrulestheday
      @insanityrulestheday Před 3 lety +1

      You're easily pleased. :-(

    • @p0licenthieves
      @p0licenthieves Před 3 lety +1

      @@insanityrulestheday He comes across as personable and humble. Traits not common enough these days. So sue me.

    • @insanityrulestheday
      @insanityrulestheday Před 3 lety +1

      @@p0licenthieves A Pig in a Poke, is still a Pig in a Poke. :-)

  • @rogerfranklin5732
    @rogerfranklin5732 Před 11 měsíci

    It's only after watching this, ending as it does towards the late summer of 2019, that you see what a pure miracle Boris (or Cummings) pulled out of the hat. To go from this s*** show to a massive majority and a brexit deal was an incredible political achievement - no matter what nonsense followed.

  • @vijayraghavan6383
    @vijayraghavan6383 Před 3 lety +6

    Is there a part 3?

    • @akali83
      @akali83 Před 3 lety +4

      I've just had a look at the Channel 5 website, and it looks like there were only these 2 episodes.

    • @sbwords
      @sbwords Před 3 lety +3

      No, but an update would be welcome.

  • @christopherhulse8385
    @christopherhulse8385 Před 3 lety +1

    Portillo's face at 29:34!

  • @Fernandwinnie
    @Fernandwinnie Před 3 lety

    Dennis Skinner and Tony Benn, the old decent men in Westminster.

  • @syedadeelhussain2691
    @syedadeelhussain2691 Před 3 lety

    No, it's not just the Tory Party.
    This party political dissension is spreading everywhere.
    Major Parties all over the world, such as the Indian National Congress, UMNO in Malaysia, Moslem League in Pakistan, ANC in SA, People Action party in Singapore, and the Republican Party in the USA, and many other time-tested political outfits, are now becoming either irrelevant or need to undergo a massive organizational and ideological transformation, to stick all of their voters, and delegates, on the same platform.
    So the Tory Party in the UK is no exception. Its cousin across the Atlantic the Republican Party is equally divided over a wide variety of issues, as we did see in the aftermath of the American Elections, that lead to the ouster of Donald Trump.

  • @vdotme
    @vdotme Před 3 lety

    15 ad slots in a 56min video? 😳😳😳😳Just watched ad free ep1.

  • @c0unt_WAVnstein
    @c0unt_WAVnstein Před 3 lety

    After putting millions of people on the dole and destroying communicates up and down the country, Thatcher has the nerve to cry when she loses her job, even though she's walking away with a gold plated pension for life.

  • @susannamarker2582
    @susannamarker2582 Před 3 lety +1

    Any british party becoming ideologically obsessed by the EU is not good.

  • @pspence9569
    @pspence9569 Před 3 lety +3

    Portillo is still hot.

  • @eamonnflanagan4180
    @eamonnflanagan4180 Před 3 lety +1

    Portillo a Spanish european telling the British people that we are all wrong asking for independence. The slant of this documentary was leaning further one way than the tower in Pisa.

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 Před 3 lety +2

      Portillo is not exactly pro European. Remember John Major called him one of the "bastards" that was stopping him over the Maastrict treaty around 1992/93.

    • @prodigiii712
      @prodigiii712 Před 3 lety +1

      He voted for Brexit. He was always a eurosceptic.

  • @jimmaughan1898
    @jimmaughan1898 Před 4 měsíci

    He should do an update. Maybe he could score an interview with the vegetable head. Perhaps even with the lettuce.

  • @sophiebullen6634
    @sophiebullen6634 Před 3 lety +7

    Ken Clark's either ignorant of the truth or out right lying there. The 15% interest rates cost lots of people their homes.

    • @BezosAutomaticEye
      @BezosAutomaticEye Před 3 lety +2

      Are you speaking of high interest rates in general? 15% interest rate was never implemented. The Chancellor 'raised' them on Black Wednesday from 10% to 12% to 15% on that day, a change which would come in the day after, but this never happened the damage had been done and rates stayed at 10% as they were previously. Presumably it's the high 10% interest rates to which you're referring did the damage?

    • @naillijseer
      @naillijseer Před 3 lety

      I weep that he mocked

    • @nudisco300
      @nudisco300 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BezosAutomaticEye You're right Justin I remember this clearly. I think interest rates had been high throughout the recession because one of Majors speeches was 'if its not hurting its not working. This gets forgotten a lot and was the start of his popularity decline and it preceded White Wednesday.

    • @BezosAutomaticEye
      @BezosAutomaticEye Před 2 lety

      @@nudisco300 hello. I never realised he was popular. I always assumed it was the 'back to basics' that backfired in the months and years that followed with the disgusting Tory sleaze that ultimately, inevitably lead to a massive Labour landslide. However I do concede that Ken Clarke once remarked that it was Black Wednesday that lost the Tories the 97 election.

    • @nudisco300
      @nudisco300 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BezosAutomaticEye Yes believe it or not he was quite popular for a short time after taking over at the end of 1990, scrapping the poll tax and then winning the largest amount of individual votes in a general election ever. I don't think it took long though for the press to work out he was a one trick pony with no real big plan. Colleagues in the cabinet before he became PM remember him for his inability to make decisions.
      I don't take Ken Clarkes view. By 1997 the economy was booming and unemployment had dropped rapidly to lower than Mrs Thatchers time. 2 things killed them - 1.The amount of time they'd been in power - people just wanted a change, they'd been in power 18 years and Labour had just found a leader that looked half normal, wasn't socialist or radical. The other thing that damaged Major was sleaze. Nearly every week for a very long time one of the Sunday newspapers would run a new scandal. Ministers having affairs, gay rent boys with married MPs, cash for questions and financial corruption, all sorts. People just had enough of them.

  • @D-Man-dy3nt
    @D-Man-dy3nt Před 3 lety

    Then COVID came along... the UK was able to react rapidly with its vaccine roll out. We avoided the disastrous EU vaccine procurement programme - THANK GOD WE LEFT

  • @TroyaE117
    @TroyaE117 Před 2 lety

    But Dahling, what happened in 2019 ?

  • @MrThirstyshark
    @MrThirstyshark Před 3 lety +1

    Always party before country...

    • @petervharris
      @petervharris Před 3 lety

      Or in Portillo's case - Portillo before anything else.....!!

  • @keithmiddlehurst4036
    @keithmiddlehurst4036 Před rokem +1

    Boris has gone, now Liz, but for how long?

  • @susannamarker2582
    @susannamarker2582 Před 3 lety

    The EU is the wrong Europe for Europe. Why ? The EU is the continuation of Germany by other means. When we joined in 73, it had already been constructed to suit other countries. Such as Germany.

  • @dudeperfect_giveawayontele1303

    All Thanks to @240Autos on Instagram For The Cars Hook up, Damn And His Good At Negotiating Prices With His Customers

  • @philipjones6323
    @philipjones6323 Před 3 lety +1

    How long have you got.

  • @richardgray6313
    @richardgray6313 Před 3 lety +2

    It would help if the tories were not populated by rich individuals ex private school boys all suffering from the scars of separation anxiety

  • @bluepeter3470
    @bluepeter3470 Před 3 lety +2

    Portillo why are talking to that sob Blair.
    He should be in prison.

  • @nevilleprinsloo
    @nevilleprinsloo Před 2 lety

    So nice to see a packed chamber 32:02.

  • @CharlieVane21
    @CharlieVane21 Před 2 lety

    The euro was always a trap, it would have made Brexit impossible. Like Hotel California, once in you can never leave.

  • @andrewrobinson2565
    @andrewrobinson2565 Před 3 lety

    Is there an episode 3?

    • @petervharris
      @petervharris Před 3 lety

      Episode 1 from Portillo was one too many...........

    • @andrewrobinson2565
      @andrewrobinson2565 Před 3 lety

      @@petervharris We were shocked to hear he voted Leave.
      No more Railway Journeys.

  • @hl6876
    @hl6876 Před 3 lety +1

    Shame Scotland feels more at home with Europe than the rest of Britain

    • @jaquesravalec242
      @jaquesravalec242 Před 3 lety

      Clearly not judging by the last election results.

    • @susannamarker2582
      @susannamarker2582 Před 3 lety +2

      The SNP are very good at spreading this victim culture of poor, downtrodden Celts. Also, not enough non-SNP voters vote for Holyrood.

  • @monizdm
    @monizdm Před 2 lety

    One of the greatest PMs in British history. Are you serious? That woman was a disaster.

  • @christinelivesey9077
    @christinelivesey9077 Před 2 lety

    It’s a real pity TM didn’t come after Boris-he could have done the Brexit stuff.

  • @jamesrobo
    @jamesrobo Před 3 lety

    Sorry, when I’m faced with this many adverts, I switch to another video

  • @139bs
    @139bs Před 3 lety +1

    There are far too many ads! Having them every few minutes destroys the continuity of the programme and irritates the viewer. Get rid!

  • @garrybarry4286
    @garrybarry4286 Před 3 lety

    "The new Labour party was in disarray" ? The new Labour party was portrayed as being in disarray, and it was portrayed that way ever since until the required outcome, now that there is a wet lettuce in charge, its all fine.

  • @gohfi
    @gohfi Před 3 lety +2

    „Different status“ meaning: much more power than other members and paying much less than other members. That‘s what England likes and Little England it now is.

    • @catmonarchist8920
      @catmonarchist8920 Před 3 lety +2

      The UK was the second net Contributor second only to Germany while benefiting less due to geography. France gets to force the EU to move the parliament from Brussels to Srassbourg every year when the UK couldn't get any major concessions even using the treat of secession.

  • @krisburgess2857
    @krisburgess2857 Před 2 lety

    If Tony Blair loves the Tories so much why don’t he and his new labor mates join the god dam Tories so the labor party can go back to being the party of the working class and the unions

  • @robertmacleod6221
    @robertmacleod6221 Před 3 lety

    The trouble with the Torys now is the cabinet. Johnstone is a waste of space

  • @Chiefab22
    @Chiefab22 Před 3 lety +3

    Brexit is a interesting issue

  • @susannamarker2582
    @susannamarker2582 Před 3 lety +1

    In a UK outside the EU, Holyrood and a scottish FM would have far more clout, because the EU legislation is no longer distorting the legal relationship between Holyrood and Westminster.

  • @TomosAvis
    @TomosAvis Před 13 dny

    Dont worry George, you're seeing the next worse Tory campaign ever run.

  • @michaelhoskins6579
    @michaelhoskins6579 Před 2 lety

    This seems like 100 years ago now. Tories continually leading in the polls in 2021, with Labour scrapping amongst itself and with an uninspiring leader. I have always had a deep seated aversion to the Tory Party, but you have to admire their ability to keep bouncing back. I guess it has been made much easier for them by Labour not being on the pitch for over a decade.

    • @GoodKnight-mm4nv
      @GoodKnight-mm4nv Před 2 lety

      Britain needs proportional representation more than ever………..they were elected with less than half the vote……they stink

  • @brianocallaghan7172
    @brianocallaghan7172 Před 3 měsíci

    most of the players in the tory party can be given credit for at least having a sincere veiw on their position on brexit and can be lauded for at least trying to stick to their principles and convictions. this however can not be said of johnson who comes across as a calculating cunning oppurtunist attempting each day to gauge the direction of the wind with no clear vision of anything pertaining to the welfare of the british people and exclusively and singlemindedly heading in whatever direction will give him the greatest political advantage. if westminster is the mother of all parliments and given that we live in the age of instant and immediate news where everyone knows generally whats going on within the national picture because that can no longer be avoided how was it possible for this self serving charlatan to climb to the very top of british parlimenty politics with no earthly conviction whatsoever ? he then became to a large extent " a single issue premier " in that covid was the main item that occupied his in tray for his three years in office and even within that singular sphere he was found out. british politics is always worthy of attention and always captures my interest but johnson ultimately proved himself to be thouroghly unworthy of the greatest prize of all . . .there are a great many british parlimentarians from all parties and none that i admire for their ability and passion but not him. more than anything what has always struck me about him was that on any given issue he always seemed to me to be completely out of his depth

  • @domenicoscarpa670
    @domenicoscarpa670 Před 3 lety

    Boris the titan🤓

  • @moodobusiness
    @moodobusiness Před 3 lety

    Steven Twigg ffs

  • @plerpplerp5599
    @plerpplerp5599 Před 3 lety

    The UK government's handling of the EU negotiations has been a farce from beginning to end.
    Unlike the EU, the government went in without working out its own position first, then spent two years bickering with itself while the clock was running down.
    Then we have the subject of sovereignty. Sovereignty does not mean, as Boris thinks, British exceptionalism or living in splendid isolation like in the "good old days".
    With every international sovereign to sovereign deal, it is quite normal that a state limits its sovereignty, but it usually does so in return for practical benefits. The UK did the exact opposite by fighting over fishing waters and neglecting the financial sector where it had a competitive advantage.
    The UK is equally sovereign as the EU, but they are not equals. This is also true of USA and UK. Regardless of the so called "UK/US friendship", the USA is a much bigger fish.
    The result with the EU has shown that the bigger party (the EU) has more or less got what it wanted while the smaller party (UK) has had to roll over and get what it had been given.
    Deals based on mutual trust are the easiest to forge. Threatening to unilaterally renege on the Northern Ireland Protocol by No.10 wasn't exactly the cleverest move.
    Considering that this deal is only a political declaration, it means that the UK and EU are going to be locked in negotiating the details for a long, long time.
    It is doubtful that Boris Johnson and his Brexit bunch will either admit to the blundering mistakes made or even learn by them.

    • @prodigiii712
      @prodigiii712 Před 3 lety

      They just got a free trade deal which eliminates all tariff and quota. What are you on. They don’t have to follow European rules or go to European court and end free movement of people. Britain has got more than what it wanted and they will stop paying Europe after the initial divorce bill. They’re in a better position than Switzerland and Norway who still have to pay into EU. And UK economy is growing faster than European economy.

  • @Djura__
    @Djura__ Před 3 lety +6

    With regard to Blair's point about the Tories being gripped by an 'ideology': Not nearly enough. The entire reason why people have lost faith in our political class is precisely because our parties no longer have guiding principles or ideologies, they are mere managerial tools of big business and multi-nationals. The Tories need MORE ideology, they need a return to truly traditional, conservative values if we ever hope of fixing our societies which have been broken by progressivism and liberalism run amok.

    • @billlansdell7225
      @billlansdell7225 Před 3 lety +1

      I couldn't agree more. "The problem with the Tories" is that the number of actual conservatives in the Conservative party could be counted on one hand.

    • @andrewharper1609
      @andrewharper1609 Před 3 lety +1

      No we do not need a return to traditional Tory values. Those involved Christianity which is a load of tripe. The C of E needs liquidating for fraud not any foot in power.

    • @jamescook6477
      @jamescook6477 Před 2 lety

      ..truly traditional, conservative values... such as... ?
      And what does one, or you, mean by progressivism and liberalism?

  • @anttibjorklund1869
    @anttibjorklund1869 Před 3 lety +2

    The trouble with the tories?
    They exist.

  • @iclaudius148
    @iclaudius148 Před 3 lety +5

    I'd like to watch, but even though I have an iron stomach, watching these clowns is enough to send me to the toilet for a very long time vomiting bile.

    • @Jin-Ro
      @Jin-Ro Před 3 lety

      So bigoted that it makes you ill. Incredible.
      Corbyns views are antipodal to my own, but I can still listen to the guy.

  • @ParodyBiography
    @ParodyBiography Před 3 lety +4

    Gove reminds me of the alien in total recall. quaaaaadddeeee.....come closer...open your mind

  • @theoneonlymusicchannel
    @theoneonlymusicchannel Před 3 lety +4

    The Trouble With The Tories Is " They Have Become The Extinction Rebellion Melon Green Party"

  • @jonkmale1
    @jonkmale1 Před 3 lety

    This needs updating now that we have Brexit - has it delivered the 'sunny uplands' with 'no downsides' that the country was promised? Or have the warnings of the Remainers come to pass exactly as they predicted?

    • @susannamarker2582
      @susannamarker2582 Před 3 lety

      Too early. Anyway, the EU is not the be-all and end-all of british life. I'm glad to be out.

  • @peterclark6290
    @peterclark6290 Před 3 lety

    If Portillo doesn't say they have bent their knee to populism and Socialist solutions (as they have done in Australia) and not to: personal responsibility for outcomes, encouragement of the markets to distribute wealth then yes; they are a party that has lost their way. I blame women who still hang on to the hope that men will look after them (as marriage and the bible promise) instead of realising that (a) the vote is all the political power many of us will ever have (b) women _do have an important perspective that needs to be heard;_ importantly *On Their Own Terms* which means female political parties, thrashing out an electable agenda, finding electable candidates, experience in getting those candidates elected and then forcing compromises in fashioning Law and Regulations. Because women who survive within the boys clubs (Cons.Lab...) have to have bigger external glands than their male counterparts.
    The universal vote 1920-????
    The EEC is a red herring, nobody is going to willingly join a Socialist Bureaucratic nightmare without vomiting regularly. All the Common Market ever needed to be was a free trade zone of independent states concerned principally on useful infrastructure. Instead we get fat levels in sausages. It is becoming a Command economy by ill-educated theorists.

  • @mksensej8701
    @mksensej8701 Před 3 lety

    It is rather interesting that Portillo assumes the Tories's problem is caused by European integration. Interesting enough this kind of problem is not visible in other countries part of EU. It is a thin way to get out of responsibility. You can blame now Farage that just got out from politics as he said. But that is an another story how Farage Party is almost nonexistent now but it made UK getting out from EU. Good plan. The Chinese hand cuffs from EU is rather a confusing statement.

  • @estieglandwr
    @estieglandwr Před 3 lety +5

    Bad hair do's mainly 😆😆

  • @benfinch9829
    @benfinch9829 Před 3 lety

    I hated having to vote for May.

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 Před 3 lety

      You didn't vote for May unless you lived in her constituency. You voted "Conservative".

  • @kaythomas5884
    @kaythomas5884 Před 3 lety

    Farage saved the Tories and the nation!

  • @colinbaldwin3833
    @colinbaldwin3833 Před 3 lety +7

    It’s amazing to think just how much Boris Johnson has achieved since this programme was made.

    • @ardakolimsky7107
      @ardakolimsky7107 Před 3 lety +3

      "achieved" is an interesting way to put it.

    • @terrancedactielle5460
      @terrancedactielle5460 Před 3 lety +4

      Yes all of those trade deals, a strong fishing industry and absolutely no questionable multi million pound deals with Tory donors and friends. What a guy.

    • @ardakolimsky7107
      @ardakolimsky7107 Před 3 lety

      @@terrancedactielle5460 Don't forget, he also "achieved" king of the world status, lv 10

    • @davideddy2672
      @davideddy2672 Před 3 lety

      @@terrancedactielle5460 😂😂😂

    • @igotvaccinated2816
      @igotvaccinated2816 Před 3 lety

      the only reason he's ''achieved'' anything is because he's leftwing... notice how the Labour, SNP, Lib Dems, Green Party has all supported his failed lockdown, and anyone that opposes the lockdown is smeared by the leftwing establishment. Japan hasn't locked down & trashed their economy so why the left act like we can't do the same is baffling.