Taeyeon's Vocal Evolution Analysis (2007 - 2022) by SNSD LAB | HONEST Review!
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Goes without saying but only Taeyeon can tell us herself WHY or how she's singing how she does, it's all fun speculation on our part but I'd love to hear what YOU hear in her vocal evolution journey too!
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This is the most recent video that I can find of Luna's Vocals: czcams.com/video/UOtx-E7yFJE/video.html
I heard the technique change too, some people said she lost the power on her chest voice but i believe it was by choice to not use it often because when she wants to go there she still hits, she's doing that for longer career and i couldn't be more happier that she's thinking of her future. And honestly she utilized both styles well and still sounded good as ever, matched the songs she sings, so i'm not complaining
SM has a tendency to try and train mezzos or lower tenors/baritones into practically belting in falsetto and it's made so many of their singers really insecure. Taemin and Key are great examples. It took them fighting tooth and nail for creative freedom in their solos for us to hear Key's powerful dynamics and more kpop vocal coaches talk about Taemin being a trained tenor with some of the best baritone ballads.
Hi, I just want to confirm with you, you said that there will be a reaction to TaeTiSeo cover of Cater 2 U, is that correct? If not, I would like to request you to react to thay cover pleasee. Thank you
@@purplerabbit39 how can people say it when Some Nights, Gravity, Fire, UR and Into the uknown are right there? Her voice is just more mature now comapred to 2007.
She would never belt such nice sounding G5 in the past, but now she does
As a song, U R over the years has shown how much she's been able to refine her technique, highlight the variation in her voice, and even incorporate dynamics (which I feel VERY few singers in the industry really take time to master). I feel like she's unlocked even more power and meaning in that song just because she has a stronger vocal toolkit. I have a lot of respect for singers who have taken care of and improved their instrument over so many years because it's so difficult, especially since a lot of girl group songs fight against that and wear down their voices.
Yeah she’s definitely thinking long term!
Taeyeon has always been a natural heavy/chesty singer. It's one of the reasons why she made a name for herself at such a young age because her voice was just different from other singers in the industry at that time but that makes it more difficult for her to do higher belts.
Taeyeon started adding a little lightness in her singing around 2010 but her nasal sound became more prominent when she debuted with TTS during 2012. I guess it's her way to sustain those high belts they gave her to lessen the strain. Nowadays is probably the most nasal she has sounded during her entire career. Taeyeon did say she's more into lighter, airy, R&B vocals right now compared to powerful belting. She's definitely experimenting right now.
I also noticed a pattern where she becomes lighter and more nasal when she's skinny compared to when she has more weight. It's a pretty great mechanism to prevent huge setbacks on her body I'd say. Taeyeon is pretty aware of her own voice. She's smart and doesn't push herself too much which is why she's never had a time when she hugely regressed.
It's also a matter of taste. Rain wouldn't be half as good if not the nasal tone.
But when we look at SNSD Long Lasting Love fan meeting she sounded the same as she did before in their older songs like Genie or Forever, no nasal at all, so I think it's a matter of style. People don't notice it because of her chesty approache but she was nasal even back in 2009, now she can control it.
If we take INVU album you can hear in the different tracks how she switched back and forth
thats why she becomes one of the best diva in korea..
amazing woman and her singing journey I’m so proud of her 💓
Taeyeon was an extremely chesty singer in her rookie days ... which is why a lot of people would say she used to sound "more mature". The chestiness made her sound really powerful, but limited her voice a lot and made her very inconsistent with high belted notes, but on her good days it was magnificent .... after the GEE era she started to sound more balanced (although still on the chestier side) and kept the same sound for quite a while until her solo debut. With her solo career it seems to me that she started to take her job as a vocalist much more serious and began thinking in the long run as an artist, as she not only improved her technique but also started trying new styles of singing as her solo repertoire kept diversifying and since it is exhausting for chesty singers with challenging songs like her to sing live for entire concerts she kept getting more heady, but unfortunately also more nasal. However this has increased a lot in the last 3~2 years...this new sound has help her with difficult high notes, as she feel more free and less tight, but has also kept her from sounding as open and resonant as before.
Agreed!
It's actually funny when people say she is more nasal today when she was way more nasal in the past, you juat didn't realized that because of her chesty approach. Now she can actually control that and it's also a stylistc choice.
Taeyeon high notes are as open as before and still resonate up to D5. Did you not hear her hight notes in Killing voice and LLL fan meeting?
I'll not let people that not nothing about vocals to just throw around misinformation.
In LLL fanmeeting and KV all her chesty high notes were beautiful, open and resonate.
Like Into The Uknown is right there?! And she nailed it in The Unseen
@@timorcohen4641 She did always struggle with nasality, that's true, but in the past it never got in the way of open belts, now IMO it does ... and i wouldn't say the notes of killing voice or LLL are of the same quality of her best (also i would refrain from saying too much about KV since there is a bit too much processing)
i feel like like apart from singing nasal for cute concepts, she especially does it when phrasing high notes. like when sustaining a note that she can still support, she often opens up more and the note becomes resonant like i believe her C#5 (or maybe it was a C5 i don’t remember rn) in Step Back right before hitting the Eb5-F5 slide. she is still very much able to produce resonance and make these big sounds but only does it for climaxes like these instead of always trying to push this big sound because this can lead to pushiness which she very much did a lot during debut. that D5 in Into The New World was hard for her because she brought her entire chest up but now listen to her D5 in INVU. so easy and nice and not pushed at all. is it nasal? yeah. but much better than pushing your voice too much and thus damaging it.
I strongly agree!
Agree but the D5 in INVU isn't nasal at all, it's just brighter. I noticed a lot of people mix nasal tone and brighter approach
Regarding the nasal voice, Taeyeon was asked about it, she answered how she can control whether she wants to use a nasal voice or not on a radio show for INVU promotion.
"KSY: Also, I’ve noticed your speciality is that…there’s a nasal sound when you record.
Taeng: There’s a slight nasal-ness.
KSY: There are ones with the nasal sound, and ones without the sound.
Taeng: Oh! I’ve started to control that now."
Oooh wow recently. I would’ve wanted her to expand more
I also remember her saying she used it a lot for her INVU album and that she basically uses it as a technique
Where did you get the information?
@@zak8758 this
czcams.com/video/j4uY8P6hX-E/video.html
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Wow! Really appreciate it!
I'd say she started changing her placement during her early TTS era. That was the time where Ailee and Hyolyn popped off and started dominating as the high belters in the industry. I personally felt SM wanted Taeyeon to go that route as well. She started belting even higher and as a mezzo, in order to sustain her voice, she started mixing a lot more.
Ooooooo I love this tea!! Very interesting, what year/age was the early TTS era? Also glad you see the mezzo vision!
@@Koko3op TTS was a subunit formed in 2012, so she would've been around 23-24 years old, exactly when you noticed the nasal placement coming into play. Most noticable in the songs (at the time) Twinkle and The Boys.
@@whatchahowsya8688 Ohh okay ! Thanks
I think she changed cus her F5s in Twinkle and Baby Steps almost destroy her throat. She had hard time belting after the first TTS promotion period.
@@phuongvu921 That time they were very popular and have been performing everywhere in short period of time. So gradually could notice her voice stressed out after the promotion.
I literally don't know anything about singing but as I've been familiar with taeyeon's voice for a long time, this was so interesting to watch, learning that changing technique might help her be more free to sing... nice!! Also have to agree completely that her lower register is to die for
Fun fact: I’ve listened to her Christmas album every year since released 🤩
It's a great album. I also love "Dear Santa" by TTS, it always makes me happy😄.
same here, i sometimes randomly listen to it throughout the year just because the songs make me happy 😄
KING TAE 👑💗
Taeyeon has more nasally voice in 2016 because of rhinitis, her talking voice is different too especially in rain era
Oohh interesting.
That's true...
Yea i remember too gemini live in sketchbook sounds like she is sick, but its a good live
I think she already started experimenting with her placement around 2011. The general consensus seems to be during TTS debut in 2012, since that’s the first album/promotion where you can really see it in effect. Which makes it more memorable. All in all, it’s definitely around 23-24 years old.
You can also mark her solo debut as another step in her progress. She developed and experimented more to cover all the different genres she wants to try and also to sustain through her solo concerts. Honestly, I very much look forward to her future!
Also huge agree with you at 21:27! Till this day, I still think that’s the most beautiful note I’ve ever heard 💜
Let's summarize Taeyeon's radio interviews and social media conversations with her fans.
2014-2015? Recently, I think efforts to make even a little higher notes like when I was young are now almost meaningless.
2016? I was treated for rhinitis at the hospital and cured completely.
(Taeyeon seems to have recorded rain, Jeju Island's blue night in 2016 when her rhinitis got worse and her throat condition was not so good, perhaps because of her really unreasonable - almost impossible - schedule or stress.)
2022: Currently, the nasal sound can be freely adjusted, so it is used only when necessary.
I don't think Taeyeon's rhinitis treatment or nasal sound control is perfect yet, but it continues to confirm her promise to sing for herself and her fans for a long time.
Love this, thank you!
You've clocked it. I thought I was the only one who thought Taeyeon was a mezzo-soprano. A lot of people tend to say she's a soprano but in her early days I always thought mezzo. I LOVE her chesty, weighty voice in her early days but as you mentioned, the switch up helps her reach those higher tones which she would have struggled with. Her voice soars now in those upper belts. I like that it has a piercing sound as well.
I still hear her incorporate that chestiness here and there because her belts are still chesty but bright. I feel like the brightness almost gives her a bigger sound when she belts now. She definitely goes super nasal for the cutesy concepts and some vowels tend to be more nasal. This was a great reaction! You pointed out everything I've been thinking when it comes to Taeyeon's vocals🔥🔥🔥
Yaaaay! Thank you! Yeah she’s definitely a mezzo. Her and Brandy are part of the same coin. Taeyeons voice is heavier whilst Brandy’s is darker but both navigate their ranges in very similar ways. I’d love to hear her cover a Brandy song and vice versa. Her runs and vibrato too seem to be influenced by Brandy but that’s just my conspiracy!
Lol I'm on board with that conspiracy tbh. I definitely hear the similarities. I hope she does cover Brandy one day!
Yess more taeyeon content plss ^^
That UR note is a stunner. That particular fancam from Busan and the way she sounded in a couple of songs that followed (11:11 & Time Spent Walking Down Memory Lane) were the moment I truly fell in love with Taeyeon's voice. I was more a fan of her as a person before that, and her voice was very hit and miss for me, especially with all the thinning and straining she was going through in few years prior.
I hope she gets to do another Christmas concert at some point. We don't do Catholic Christmas here and that kind of music is not usually my thing but I surprisingly liked that winter album of hers quite a bit. Still the clips from that concert DVD make me really uncomfortable. It's kind of shocking how great she did keeping the mood festive despite going to that venue straight from 3 days in a funeral hall but having this background knowledge makes the whole thing really unsettling.
TAEYEON Christmas album is so underrated 😭 Christmas without you and im all ears are my fav 🥺
It's SOO gorgeous!
@@Koko3op I don't think she has ever sang that song as beautifully as on that day, not even in the studio. It's one of the highlights of her career for me
It's so interesting for me because I feel like since she started incorporating the nasality a bit early about 23, I feel like the trainers at SM were preparing for her voice to lower a bit so they properly trained the nasality into her voice before it dropped. Of course this is just a theory and it could have easily started as a pure stylistic choice.
Oooh okay yes I'm not mad that theory at all!
I love the way you analyze and explain everything
Thank you!!
When you mention her voice sounds like Jessica, I got excited because when I was younger and didn’t recognise Taeyeon’s voice much, I’ve always mistaken both of their voices. Now that I listen to Taeyeon a lot, I could recognise Taeyeon’s voice even when she duetted with Jessica. They have a specific tones in their voices and it’s easier to differentiate them.
Same!
Thanks! Love Taeyeon's Beautiful Vocals!
sm has a pattern of training their artists with techniques like this, they start off by teaching their artists to use their diaphragm to belt and usually push their artists to use very full voices, but as they age, and these girls who sing such high notes every day while performing end up hurting thier own voices, they end up teaching the artist to switch their technique to start using. a mixed voice. these girls also lose weight and gain weight and have such irregular schedules, the mixed voice makes up for it and gives them sustenance to keep pushing those high notes meanwhile if she still used her chest voice she would have cracked a lot and it would have done worse in the long run. i think her technique has a lot to do with taeyeon's body well being tbh, in the beginning taeyeon had a lot of energy as a teen and had a full voice but she started using her nasal tone mainly during tts, to hit those notes, but then the most she used it was post 2014, where she did lose A LOT of weight and was very depressed...she is better now and has regulated the use of her nasal tone but the most she used it was when she felt most tired or didn't have the energy to push her chest voice. wendy went through this same journey as well if you notice, during debut her voice is a lot fuller, she over exerted her chest voice and got vocal nodules. when she looks healthy and well fed, her chest voice shines and she has a lot of support but in eras when she went through rapid weight loss like red flavor, you see her start using mixed voice wayy more often...and for her now, she has found a healthy diet and found a healthy way to belt and uses her mixed voice moderately just like taeyeon does. it's just an sm thing honestly, they did it with seohyun, with luna from fx, with jessica, with wendy etc since their artists go through such irregularity in their schedules, they teach their artists to protect their voices by teaching them to mix when hitting high notes, not to mention most kpop gg songs are already pitched very high, so it becomes necessary for many of them.
Taeyeon traines under The One, most of the artists didn't
@@timorcohen4641 that was during early debut. Years after debut they have in-house vocal trainers
I really enjoy this thank youu
What a very pleasant and insightful video thank you so Much for sharing your passion but also your knowledge. I love what you do
Thank you so much! That’s so sweet of you!
I always wondered too, the high note after Taeyeon's in The Boys is suppoosedly sung by Yoo Young-JIn, their writer. I guess he's been known to put his own vocals in the tracks he writes for/produces.
That concert at 27:00 was from her Japan Showcase Tour 2018
I’m really enjoyed
Taeyeon!!!!!🤩🔥🫡
She was 18 for ITNW...but she'd already recorded the OST IF (IIRC) and had been featured in a collaboration when she was 17 {?) so though you got the age 'wrong'...her vocal skills were probably already there at 16, and they only got better over time. And of course this is all while dancing too. She really understands her voice and has tremendous tone and breath control.
When the song "You bring me joy" The One feat Taeyeon came out in 2004 she was 15. The vocal evolution video is using the Korean age system (16) but her international age was 15 which is super crazy to me >_
Also I was just following the ages in the video lool. She has put a lot of work into understanding her voice for sure
@@burnssdh5639 That's it! And yes the Korean age system is weird...I sort of 'get' the counting of ones' first year as being '1' but then apparently another year can be added at the New Year, somehow, so two people of the same 'western age' can actually be 2 years apart. Fortunately this system doesn't apply to Warranties on Samsung and LG electronics or KIA/Hyundai cars. 😃.
@@Pos1t1veThinking Hey thanks. NOW I understand. Good job!
11:00, yess I can hear it.. and I love it so much. It feels like the sound travels thru my body.
I've enjoyed your reaction and seeing all kinds of opinions here! She has the ability to do adlibs like riffs and runs but she doesn't often show off her adlibs in most of
her songs. Hope she will sing kind of rock genre and some English songs like lady marmalade.
Just to add another collection of Taeyeon, check out Taeyeon duet with his vocal trainer "The One". Like a star is for ost and you bring me joy is The One song for his album and he take in Taeyeon for the song. Also there are Lee Seung Chul, another Korean Legendary singer who take in Taeyeon for his song "my love" for his 35th years debut anniversary.
This is like a star czcams.com/video/o8eVpTotIxg/video.html this song more than 10 years old, not sure when it released 2011 or 2010 or even older 😅
You bring me joy is there in this video in the beginning era of Taeyeon.
Taeyeon become a soulful singer just like his teacher, The One.
This is Lee Seung Chul with Taeyeon czcams.com/video/l44stchlnkU/video.html the harmonization so great.
This crazyfact copy paste from the comment of the mv.
Crazy fact: Lee Seung Chul was already singing his hit song "Girls' Generation*" on the airwaves that time in 1989 when Taeyeon was just a newborn baby. Years later, Taeyeon then became the leader of the legendary Kpop group SNSD/Girls' Generation, who was named after that* Lee Seung Chul's song, and the group actually revived that song "Girls' Generation" on their first album. And now they're doing a duet song in 2020. Life is amazing.
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31:53 Vanilla is a hidden bop.
Oh they included her Nell cover in this video! Time Spent Walking Through Memories is beautiful. Nell is one of the most iconic bands in Korea and you would love their lead singer, Kim Jong-wan. He's the reason Sungkyu joined Woollim. If you do check them out just a warning - some of their biggest songs are on very sad topics. The Day Before breaks me. It's a farewell to someone who took their life and the mv is about a man who records himself in the place where the man he loves filmed his death and last words and the mc sits in the opposite seat so when the videos are combined it looks like the other man wasn't alone in his final moments. I cry when the end shows only one pair of feet.
16.02 the title is Moonlight ❤. One of my favorite songs..please reacting moonlight 🥲
30:45 that's from her Japan Tour - Signal
Your intro song paper plane by girl generation🥰
0:50 small fact: her favorite singer is Whitney Houston
Next can you reaction to TAEYEON " I GOT LOVE " MV ?
Quen CHUNGHA reaction NEXTTTT PLEASE
TAEYEON IS 1 OF 3 KEY MASTER OF SNSD ,ONE IS SEOYEON , ONE IS YURI
27:45 you say you have reacted to the unseen concert, but i cant find it under neither Taeyeon, or conserts on your patreon?? do you have a link or some way for me to find it? i wouldnt mind paying for patreon if you do, but currently i cant find it?
Ohh weird? I reacted to her in seoul concert. I’ll double check but it should be there
It’s there “Taeyeon concert in seoul” under the Titan and Mt Olympus tiers.
Please do the GRATATA AND BURN WITH LOVE comeback MV
35:52 i can hear what you point out
20:47 - What is the name of the song?
Can someone tell me what the beginning intro song is?
This is a paper plane song from Girls' Generation's album.
omg what is your intro song???
Girls Generation - Paper plane (slowed)
what is the name of the intro song please? 🙏🏼
Paper Plane - Girls' Generation
The super high note in the boys is probably Yoo Youngjin XD
What the title of the song in the intro?
Girls Gen - Paper Plane
What's the song @ 3.30 ? I'm having flashbacks... but can't place it!
It's Can you hear me by Taeyeon
@@yonggumongmong7433 thank you! 💖
No one still has dropped the name of the opening song.. 😆
Girls Generation - Paper Plane (slowed) lool
React to EXO - Stronger
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I dont necessarily think that she's a Mezzo Soprano. She's just a thicker sounding soprano. Due to being mostly chest dominant, for most of her singing carrer. And her overall tone in general. I think her not hitting those certain higher notes and belts, etc, with ease is due to an underdeveloped head voice for most of her career and it not being as strong. So,her placement is stronger in her chest/mix, hence why she's able to belt there more comfortably . She's now incorporated the nasal technique more to probably access Her head voice more easily. Her Tessitura gives off soprano to me, as a classically trained singer myself, as well. Her tone is very girly, and light despite having thickness to it ,still even being chesty. Solji from Exid is another example of a darker ,thicker soprano even heaver souding than taeyeon. Sometimes, being able to hit or not hit certain notes isn't the only thing that dictates vocal type. I'm a Contralto but can hit up to a B5, and that's considered "out of range" for one. it may not be as strong as my comfortable tessitura notes, but it's definitely there and audible, and my tone is very dark ,deep, and androgynous. I actually had a very similar start like taeyeon, where I was very chest dominant and mixed dominant ,never accessing my head voice at all. Dispite being a totally different voice type than her, but she is definitely a soprano, just a thicker toned one !🙂 she my ult bais in kpop btw!
I hear what you’re saying and perspectives will also differ. Emilie (another reactor) who is a mezzo with range watched Taeyeon and suspected her to be a mezzo like her.
A lot of Mezzo’s have range and compared to other GG members, I don’t think Taeyeon sounds as girly as Jess, Tiff or even Sunny. At the end of the day mezzo is still a soprano so a girly sound is to be expected.
A thicker sounding soprano to me would still sound more free-er in those higher chest notes like Patti, Lisa Fisher, Aretha, J-hud, Mariah Carey (tho she says she’s a mezzo and I’d agree since her voice is more comfortable around the E5’s but she hits F5’s and G5’s but doesn’t necessarily sing them comfortably consistently) even though they can be chesty at times.
I’m sure you’re aware also that a lot of mezzo’s can cover soprano roles if needed but it’s more of a work out for them hence why the notes you hit comfortably does play a big factor on what your voice type is and anything above an D5/Eb5 starts to sound much more pushy for Taeyeon in a similar way it does for Jojo and Brandy who I think are very similar her. Infact the 3 of them singing together would sound amazing.
Also, compare Taeyeon to Hyolyn, now there's a girly tone and soprano freedom although I'm sure her upper chest is not much higher than Taeyeon's which makes sense since there's only a couple notes difference between the two voice types anyway. She's also chesty and has lows which are more developed than Taeyeon's but I'd still classify her as a soprano.
Loved watching the analysis! Taeyeon is 👑👑👑 Am also really curious to see you react to 3rd/4th gen vocalist, Yeonjung from WJSN, cover Fine! czcams.com/video/I1NzK8tdw_4/video.html
Who knows the opening song? Please
SNSD Paper plane slowed
Disagree on the Mezzo part, sorry hehe 🤭. A Mezzo will never be able to produce this kind of bright and light notes (like in Weekend). she a Soprano with a well developed lower range, which is also a new thing from the last few years. Untill 2015 she couldn't support anything below A3, it's only in the past 3 years she is able to support F#3
Haha it’s all good. Mezzo is the most common female vocal type so there’s probably millions that can do weekend lool. I think there’s a huge misunderstanding of what a mezzo is, maybe people mistake it for contralto’s that have heavier darker sounds like Annie Lennox but Taeyeon is definitely a mezzo that’s learnt a great mix to reach upper chest notes nicely.
@@Koko3op still no, taeyeon is just chesty..her timbre doesn't resimble mezzo at all
@@slaypa Soprano's are rare voice types who'd find F's and G's easy to belt in a way she does not. She's clearly a mezzo which is the most common voice type. Mariah, Whitney, Beyonce, Jojo are 4 very different mezzo voices but Mezzo's nonetheless.
@@Koko3op did you say soprano is rare?? because soprano is the MOST common voice type for a female vocalist...
@@slaypa " The mezzo-soprano is the middle female voice and the most common of the female singing voices, which tends to dominate in non-classical music, with vocal range that typically lies between the A below "middle C" (C4) to the A two octaves above (i.e. A3-A5)." Directly from wikipedia. Articles that mention Soprano are probably including mezzo's and are splitting the main 4 types, Soprano, Contralto, Tenor & Baritone. When you split Soprano, mezzo's are most commonly found in pop music.
same with iu actually!!! her voice was way deeper and fuller and she got more light and bright with time!!! i wish you'd do one for her voice evolution. anyways enjoying the taeyeon content on here lately. (im late i know but im finally watching)
I haven’t seen one for her though, otherwise I would love to.
@@Koko3op there's one but it has only official mvs and no live clips 😔