Sailboat Keel Types
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- Sailboat sailing keel types, pros and cons of the most popular keels today.
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Made it to the end and just got a new Catalina 34 with a wing keel. We’re taking it on our home next month. Afterwards I’ll send some pictures to having a drawing down!
Congrats my man, great boat
That was an informative and straightforward video - as usual. We own a 1989 Pearson 27 with a wing keel. It was the only keel offered on those boats and it draws 3 ft 4 in. We are on the mid-Hudson River and the shallow keel does give us some flexibility in docking and maneuvering. This is our first sailboat so I can't really compare it well to others, but I think it's generally considered to be a decent sailor and to perform reasonably well. It does want to slide over a little when the wind is coming from the beam but it's not too big a problem. We have taken it to more open water in Long Island Sound and lower New York harbor. Plan is to sail around Long Island this summer, so I'll get some more experience and more open water.
The boat does tack well and that's helpful on the river especially in the narrower sections. Overall, I think the shallowness of the keel is very helpful for the kind of sailing we do on the river along with some coastal.
The rudder on that boat is hung off the back and I do like that it has two attachment points. I don't think I would buy a boat with a twin rudder because they're completely unprotected. The long bulb keels also make me nervous because they look too exposed.
I think our next boat is going to have some kind of fin keel. I would also like the rudder to be at least somewhat protected with at least a partial skeg.
I'm plowing through your videos from oldest to newest and have found them informative. I just started seeing them about a month or two ago.
Very generous offer! Instead of a drawing may I request you do a video on dinghy cruising sailboats.10-15' range non-racing. Cool small trailerable to learn with before moving to a +20 footer 👍
I just love your NO BULLSHIT approach in all your videos . thank you
Thank you for watching, some people cant handle reality and they prefer safe zones, my channel is not a safe zone and I try to deal in facts :) no click bait, no bs , just sailing
@@ChasingLatitudes no bullshit just sailing
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
I made it all the way to the end. Keep making videos! They are very informative and enjoyable. And keep drawing too!
Awe you’re the best thank you so much
@@ChasingLatitudes No, you're the best!
I have sailed with the majority of Keel, centerboard and Daggerboards in my
74 years. This experience and the accosional grounding have led me to prefer a SCABBOARD TO ALL THE OTHER OPTIONS.
I made it to the end that was easy and interesting. I only have kayaks at this time. Your videos have me thinking slot. So much thanks
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Add Aluminum hull and twin rudders to the centerboard and you have the SUV of the sea! Beach it, dry it out in a tidal pool, anchor in shallows, exploring inland waterway.. see Garcia 45.... love your videos!
my head loves a garcia and imagines the fun we'd have together... my wallet cries feeling inadequate :p
Yes I made it to the end. I'd like to see a drawing of an Ovni 45, if possible. Thanks for your great videos!
Yay, head on over to my website and sign up for the newsletter, I will draw one for ya and send it over
I love me some lifting keels with a vessel that's made to be beached.
Made it all the way to the end. For me I'd have to agree encapsulated fin keel with a skeg hung rudder is the way to go for ocean crossing
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Watched to the end , expect email with some pictures, good job, you getting better and better!
lol :) Send me an email jointheadventure@how2sailing.com and pic one from the website :) Or if you have a vessel Send me one and I will draw yours
I'm only looking at bilge keels. If I can't take the ground I can't afford it end of . Estuaries are free just make your own morning do all work yourself . If a boat won't stand it's for the rich only . Moody 346 is my dream boat . Westerly Berwick is what I can actually afford lol .
Thats okay I have a beneteau 35 budget but would love a 46 soooo 😉
@@ChasingLatitudes I could get my 346 if I sold my tiny house aswell as my van but I want to keep that .
There's loads of 40 Pluss fin keels in UK many in my price range . Like 12 to 15 k with a view to spend 6 on it .
But there's no way I could maintain such a beast . Could do it up I'm a carpenter by trade with good glass skills . But a deep water morning and lift outs would kill me .
Hence the 346 being my dream . Biggest thing you can beach with a beautiful interior.
since we sail on a very shallow lake, our 21 ft boat has only a lift-up centerboard (0.2-1.2 m draft), the stability is provided by our weights
Thanks for a complete look at keels. I liked the presentation. its thorough and you shared your personal choice for fin/skeg. I haven't sailed a fin/skeg yet but I would be open to one. I will say that balancing sails with a cutter or ketch rig would help sail management to improve the balance. Who is in a hurry when your cruising anyways? I would be more inclined to sail a full keel boat for the hove-to for all reasons of safety of weathering out storms and warding off fatigue. Not to mention you typically will have more stowage for tanks and the bilge would be lower. I am looking from a single handed perspective. Best not to sail during Hurricane season anyways. I think there are fin/skegs boats that have these qualities also. I'm thinking Valiant 40 and the Camper Nicholsens and others? Got any recommendations?
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. This is a response I hear very often and while in theory it sounds good the reality tends to be a little different. Who is in a hurry ? Well for normal sailing , coastal cruising and island hopping basically no one as you can take your time and enjoy the journey. When it comes to crossings its an entirely different story, the faster you can cross the safer you will be. You will be caught in weather at some point and the faster you can remove yourself from that situation the better. The shorter you crossing takes the less it also costs. You will be far more comfortable as well as agile in something other than a full keel. 99% of most sailors sailing will not be crossings and a full keel is highly inefficient in every aspect of sailing other than riding out a storm and even then they are problematic, they are so slow that you will simply be stuck in the storm and are more likely to hit weather more often as you cannot maneuver fast enough to avoid storms. Full keel also rolls all of the time, take more wind to move, cannot move well in 99% of sailing. I would recommend honestly anything other than a full keel unless the plan is to set out on a circumnavigation. If doing the typical one or two crossings a year then I would avoid full keels at all cost.
We have a wing keel and I like it. Catalina still uses the wing on all their shallow draft boats. I agree that speed to outrun conditions is the best. I’ve chartered a full keel older Pearson. Big hassle in marinas in terms of handling. Would never own one.
I agree 100% , there is simply almost no reason now to have a big heavy slow full keel boat. i also like wing keels, not many cons to them at all
As always... Excellent 👍🏻. Very informative.⛵️
Learned a lot 🖖🏻
Thank you thank you thank you 🙏 I
If I'm honest with myself, I will probably never own a sailboat. It is a dream of mine but something my wife doesn't share at all. IF I was buying one I would need shallow draft keels... either a drop keel or bilge keel. Bilge keel is interesting since it has less roll. I live on a river deep enough to bring in 5ft drafts... I could create a slip that would allow that on my property. The issue is I need a mast I can drop while going under bridges on this river. Some idea where I'm at... I'm near the Ohio and Mississippi rivers with KY lake just a few miles away. The thought is if I had a smaller boat in the lakes here that my wife might come around on the idea of costal cruising later on.
Thats a tough one 😳 you'd have to get a pocket sailor to start
My Catalina had a wing keel I liked the boat wanted more speed so I went to a Catamaran.
I have a long keel boat...1982 Island Trader 38' Ketch Rig
Cracking video. Said it last time, say it again. Let the blue rinse, armchair, day sailors read their yachting world article's on their slow heavy boats that roll at anchor and are unmanageable in close quarters, sail hours in bad seas...... Us we will be there two days before they arrive, having left a day after they could not take the cross swell anymore and set out. Sleeping in berths fit for real size people in a light and airy boat. :-) Yes we watched it all! Sail Safe mate. Ant, Cid & the pooch crew.
Absolutely love it 😍
Great job! Mine's a wing keel. OC351
Long Keel is very safe if you are sailing in shallow water with stones / rocks - hitting rocks with finn keel will cause boat to sink
What do you know about buying charter boats. Are they maintained well? Pros and cons. Are their better deals to be found in the Mediterranean area. I see several boats from Greece and the Seychelles islands that seem a bit cheaper but no idea how their fitted. I believe getting work done there is pricey in the European Union. I appreciate the info and the work you put into them.
Hey Robert, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Charter boats can sometimes be great deals it just depends. Are you located in the states? If so you can get similar deals on charter boats in the Caribbean where I currently am. There are some things to look at with charter boats, generally they are bare minimum when it comes to equipment. They also can have very high engine hours, neither of these are deal breakers depending on price and how handy you are. Structural integrity you have to look very close at with ex charter boats as its not uncommon for them to have been grounded at some point. If you can save lets say 30k on an ex charter with high engine hours but everything else checks out fine then it can be a heck of a deal.
Here is a quick example, the oceanis 38 ex charter is 139k here www.yachtworld.com/boats/2017/beneteau-oceanis-38-3656227/
Same boat non ex charter 208k here www.yachtworld.com/boats/2017/beneteau-oceanis-38-3733628/
so off the top a savings of 69k, high engine hours no problem replace the engine and your still up over 50k in savings, want all new electronics, sure, still up over 30k , need to fly their stay for a week and have survey, sure still saving over 20k and you've got all new electronics and a new engine, kind of a no brainer but people get silly misconceptions from forums sometimes.
@@ChasingLatitudes I think (based on very limited research) either new motor or having it rebuilt and changing out all belts, hoses, .... upgrading electronics, and rigging should be done right off the top. Maybe have Rutters rebuilt. Seems like this should almost be added into costs when buying a charter boat. More to do but at least you can sail safely getting started. Other projects I think I could do or at least put off until next saved more. I’m at least 5 years away but this dream keeps me motivated.
So what you recommend for travel around the world yacht
There are lots of options for that :) , I would get something large enough for comfort and storage, I would go at minimum a 40 , I would avoid a full keel as they are terribly inefficient in most aspects of sailing. I would recommend a fin keel with a skeg hung rudder, or a modified fin with a skeg hung rudder. Budget is really the determining factor as far as what particular boat. It also depends on how many on board? It can be done on a much smaller boat however I prefer to be comfortable if im going to spend two years on a mono hull.
@@ChasingLatitudes im going alone maybe we'll have my girlfriend
@@ChasingLatitudes and my dog
@@davidaharon656 oh you can go in the 35 range, that’s what I would do if budget or finances were a concern , the 35 to 38 range will help with marina fee”s, haul out fees over time
Made it
nice one
Thank you so much :)
I prefer to have a long keel like the island packet 349 or bilge keel
Like the sirius 35 😁😁😁✌️✌️
Great information, what kind of keel you think would work in the French Canals? I’m looking at sailboats that will have that ability because it’s something I want to do along with normal sailing.
I am not personally familiar with the French canals, can you fill me in on them? what's the average draft their? I will take a look at them online as well but if you can give me some insight over their
You’d have to pull the mast it looks like and something incredibly shallow . Could go shallow fin keel, or folding keel but it looks to be just over 2 meters on average
@@ChasingLatitudes I’m looking at Canal du garonne and canal du midi, I want to say around 5.3 ft for draft.
What size vessel are you thinking ? Are you heading to the med I assume or?
@@ChasingLatitudes I’m looking at 40 to 50 ft long. The overall is to sail around the world
Alex , did put my email on your web, looking for adventure .
the newsletter or the contact form? Its better to email directly as the contact form is having some issues currently . jointheadventure@how2sailing.com send the email their
I made it this far
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This was painful to listen to. Sounds like you were speading through a script not explaining knowledge.
Yeah, I was pretty bad at voice overs before so I don't blame ya
@@ChasingLatitudes great content though.
@@miyu545 newer vids are better, some of these older ones are rough