Does Virgil van Dijk deserve to win the Ballon d'Or? | Paul Merson & Harry Kewell | The Debate
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Paul Merson will deserve the ballon dor when he finally forms a coherent sentence
van dijk overrated john terry Ferdinand vidic tony adams are way better than him
@Gavin star john terry 5 premier league titles van dijk zero
@@keyuantejohnson6266 Messi also has 0 Premier leagues checkmate fool
@@hubbelizer8412 messi would dominate the premier league if he was in it
@Gavin star Terry won 17 trophies in 19 seasons at Chelsea (2 of those seasons he played below 5 games) nothing to laugh at mate
To get over 70 goal involvements in 50 games and not win ballon d’or is a disgrace. Because it’s expected from Messi that’s why they don’t give him enough respect
Exactly. Any player has his year, they'd win the Ballon Dor without any dispute. The fact that Ronaldo will finish in the top 3 is also a disgrace (not confirmed but I know it's gonna happen).
John DiMaggio true
Nicholas Barow no it’s not because of what’s expected by Messi , Van Dijk has had an unbelievable season better than anyone messi also has had an exceptional season however when two players are going for the Balondor you have to look at the season overall Liverpool knocked Barcelona out and van dijk was MOTM in the final played well for the Netherlands Messi bottled 3 competitions this year maybe it’s not all his fault but he was in that team
STFU Van Dijk is favourite by bookies. Messi is a dwarf who failed in the champions league. VVd gonna win it and all messi fan boys gonna cry
@UC1YCNDiOwUCa3aets3C1Vcg he turned up in plenty of big games - just because his brilliant performances in the CL vs Man Utd 2nd leg, Lyon 2nd leg and Liverpool 1st leg didn't matter in the end doesn't mean they weren't big games. He played very well in the Copa del Rey final and nearly singlehandedly got Barca back in it. Yes he had a poor Copa but the Brazil game was probably his and Argentina's best game, they were pretty unlucky with a few ref calls that night. People in England write off la Liga but the game to win the title vs Atletico was another standout. Van Dijk is class but Messi has still been playing a different game to everyone else
Deserve? Yes. Is he a better footballer than Messi? No. But hes certainly been up there with the best. Problem with Messi is he has made this absolute domination a normal thing.
If people think defending is harder than assisting and scoring goals then they've never played football in their life
@@sharanpannoo5927 says the non pro footballer..
@@DerThinker at least i play football better than you
@@sharanpannoo5927 it is cuz defending it depend on other players while you can still score on your own
If roles got reversed Messi would be terrible as a CB where as Van Dijk would most likely thrive as a target man forward.
Imagine getting 70 goals+assists at 32 years old and not being the outright favorite. The standards for Messi are through the roof. Van Dijk had an amazing year too of course but he even said himself that Messi deserves to win whether he made it to the CL final or not
Never got 70+ plus tho
SMJ Legacy 70+ goal involvements not goals
It’s unlucky that these 2 players had fantastic years at the same time. Messi played unbelievably, but any other year Virgil would win. It’s a toss up and I’d be happy with either
@@timguerra1694 Any other year VVD would win? You mean the past 10 years where either Ronaldo or Messi had even better seasons than the one Messi has just had? No.
SMJ Legacy what about 2013?
When Merson did that grandad impression LOL
Sounds like a moaning child
A lot harder to score in the Prem? Messi has 25 goals in 33 games against english clubs. And that's just top 6 teams.
the premier league overrated
I mean for Messi that is below average, but Messi wouldnt struggle in any league. I think they just mean that the bottom teams in the premier league are higher quality than the bottom teams in La Liga, so you wouldn't see the insane 10 game goal streaks or the hattricks, which also probably isn't true.
safe that’s against top 6 mate. no one averages that except maybe ronaldo. his form is way better against lower sides
safe are they though?
@@LuisLRC I mean that was my point
If Salah or mane or anyone really replicated messi’s statistic ps for just one season , they would win the ballon d’or but Messi who has done it for over a decade consistently is overlooked. Messi is truly a victim of his own standards. People are effectively bored of him being the best and scoring the most
We've seen him and Ronaldo hit 50+ goal contributions in a league campaign 7 times between them, what other player has even done that once, I think Henry hit 49 once and I think Suarez did it once.
Salah kinda did in 17/18 and he was hardly even considered for Balon D'Or
Jonny Pearson Salah did that in 17/18 then came 5th in the balon’dor 😕
@Super Saber Ronaldo has scored 700 goals for club and country in his career, a feat managed by only 4 other players. Dogshit player indeed...
@@madk2798 Messi had 51 goals and 19 assists. So he was involved in 12 more goals than Salah in 3 less games. That isn't the same. Nevertheless, Salah's 17/18 performance is very impressive and should've earnt him a higher rank in the Ballon D'or that year.
Say someone like aubameyang scored 51 goals in 50 games with about 20 assists, no one would question him winning the ballon d'or.
Edit: thanks for 100 likes. Good to know that despite the idiots in the comments who know nothing about football trying to downplay barca and messis achievements, some people have sense.
Lewandowski Has been even better no mention either
@Bibek Khadka Lewandowski has more goals and assists than Messi in 2019 tho...
@Bibek Khadka they've played like the same amount of games big man
The difference is that aubameyang plays in the premier league and messi plays in a farmers league.
@@71hammyman how is la liga a farmers league. Athletico, Real Madrid and Barca. Total farmers
Nobody:
Merson: In my opinion.
just salty because merson prefers Chelsea over arsenal
@@keyuantejohnson6266 i didn't really care for what he said.... I was too distracted.
FYI Chelsea fan here
Also Merson: you know
Keyuante Johnson you wanna fight
@@haroonrehman7485 bring it on
Only here for the hate comments on merson
the premier Ieague overrated the premier league relies on foreigners and money to win trophies la liga better
@@keyuantejohnson6266 most of the best ever la liga players are foreigners as well u clown
Plus no prem team has spent over 100 million on a players and la liga has 3 teams u dickhead
@@calebodunaiya3617 most players on la liga teams are local spanish players cant say the same for premier league clubs
@@calebodunaiya3617 premier league teams are overrhyped they spent hundreds of millions on transfer just to get exposed and humiliated by other European teams premier league teams only won in Europe because othere teams were rebuilding
Sky using Merson looking clueless in the thumbnail to make me click...
I have to say I wasn't disappointed 😂
That’s how he normally looks anyway.
Is merse back on the sniff?
When was he off it
Deffo
The drink I think
an Aussie legend..💪🏻🇦🇺... Kewell
Paul merson impersonating Harry Kane's granddaughter is the content I signed up for 🤣
Haven’t even listened to this yet and already know Paul merson has talked bollox
merson deluded like the rest od English fans and media who hype the premier league up like its the best league in the world when la liga serie a and bundesliga better
Well I was spot on, vvd is better than stones because he does cruyffs 🤯
@Jimmy white serie a and bundesliga way better than the premier league they didnt sell their souls for money to billionaires like the premier league clubs did plus italian and german players are more talented than their English opposition
Keyuante Johnson yeah no way is serie a , could make a case for bundesliga and la liga
@@keyuantejohnson6266 Italy are rubbish now
John Stones doesnt have a quarter of the talent of VVD. Merson needs sacking
Your football opinions r shocking
Yes.
Alisson got golden glove in the prem and CL, mostly down to VVD leading the defence.
97 points in the league, Winning CL, runner up Nations League.
Messi scored the goals and assists , won the league but last season was VVDs.
MJ 786 spot on
It’s an individual trophy. So if I saw 40 goals and finish 5th and you score 30 and win the League and the cup you should win it?
@@JamesHussain82 They have always counted trophies into it though, thats why people say Ribery was robbed the year he won like five of them. Its not just goals and assists this isn't a video game, journalists and voters take EVERYTHING into account, leading your team to a trophy is apart of that. League and cup is more valuable than 10 goals any day of the week.
Ibrahim Ansari bottled the 3 most important games last season.
Last year varane overall won 3 champions league in a row plus worldcup?
Lewandowski had the most goals in 2019 no mention 👍
Flip Alips he’s a great player in bumdesliga no doubt but I feel like that league is trash there’s no competition in big games he’s no where to be seen
@@Jack-di4ox um what? The prem ain't much better. Most of this league is tragic. Apart from 4 teams imo
Demolion951 debatable the prem is the best league in the world
League performance alone doesn't mean much unless you're in EPL, other European leagues are shite. Even 14th placed United can get a result against the Champions of Europe
Teddy Picker that’s united though😂 wb Liverpool Chelsea spurs Leicester arsenal etc
Don’t get me wrong I want vvd to win but messi got over 70 goal involvements last season he has to get it
xxora gaming I wonder how many goals vvd stopped ? Maybe well over 70 involvements 🤔
Dec G Messi is so much better lol
Dec G so you’re trying to tell me that if Liverpool had a different defender to Van dijk they’d have shipped more than 70 more goals. No you spastic
@@benjhadden3968 - no need for the name calling.
I think what Dec G means is this: VVD could well have been involved in more than 70 goal clearances. in other words, maybe an average player would be involved in about 30-40 clearances per season. And obviously the whole team's defenders would be collectively involved to stop goals.
But it's possible VVD's interventions have gained Liverpool, say, 14-15 points more.
I can't remember the numbers, but weren't Liverpool far behind in the Premier League in the season before last? Something like 29 points?
playing for a phenomenal world class team, surrounded by world class players, playing in a weak league with at least 10 teams that should in terms of first team quality should never share a bitch with Barcelona... Not such a great achievement in direct comparison with VVD. Champions League winner, lost one domestic game all season in the strongest league in the world, and was the standout defender in Europe.
I'm a Ronaldo fan, and I understand what a huge impact Van Dijk had on Liverpool, but you just can't give it to him over Messi. People got too used to Messi and Ronaldo's stats and also they got tired of them being so good so now they gave it to Modric and want to give it to van Dijk. Modric and van Dijk 2018-2019, AMAZING PLAYERS, but not over Ronaldo and Messi.
At end of the day results is what matters the most champions league winner
Messi football is so good that people have started to take it for granted so sas
When people say VVD deserves it, it's just because of how good he's been. You need to think about how good other players have been also and once you taken that into consideration, no matter how good VVD has been, he's not been better than Messi
Barca spent more than Liverpool on Attacking players to score Liverpool spent big on one big guy at the back.
VVD... dwarf is a failed cL player. Mess fan boys croy
He has been better than messi at Defending, Ariel duels and not being dribbled past.
@@smjlegacy5720 and that makes VVD better than Messi how?
@@piddlerpat in English?
If Van Dijk doesn't win it this year a defender will never win it again because I can't see a defender ever having a season like that again.
My dad said years ago when Van Dijk was at Celtic that Liverpool needed to buy him as he was a class player. How right he was!
If the Ballon D'Or is for the best footballer of the year how can Messi not win. I don't think anyone can argue that Van Dijk is a better footballer than Messi. Just because we are used to Messi doing it every year it doesn't make it any less special
Tell me all what Messi's done this year.
Lol messi should win every year no debate needed.
Do you think Roberston and TAA would be playing so high up the pitch if VVD was not the defender?
Besides his defensive skills, he has made TAA and Roberston genuine offensive threats. he makes everyone around him better.
That is why he deserves Ballon d'Or
yes because they did so even before VVD.
But its not just VVD ........Matip ,Firbino, Winjaldum ,Hendo or Millner allow the full backs to be an attacking threat .
Messi makes everyone around him better. Alba has amazing offensive stats from his partnership with Messi and Suarez also benefits from his link up with Messi. What's your point?
@@wernerwombo3789 I agree, valverde wouldnt still be coaching if it wasnt for messi hahahahahah
How is De Bruyne on the shortlist when he barely played last year?
I watched VVD the other night and he just seems to glide round the pitch he's silky smooth man.
Is Merson drunk ? Single handedly ? 😝
Tom Olsen NO
Why can't defender's or goalkeepers win Ballon D'OR? It's art of defending in game, that keeps goals out for their team's. Whoever wins it between VVD or Messi they deserve it in whole year they have had. VVD has won more silverware this year 2019 than Messi just saying!
Hell no offense is the tougher than defence.
He 100% does and is the only one that actually DESERVES it this year. Seriously, like, look at the stats
Ibrahim Ansari how!!!!! Champions League winner and Super Cup winner!
@Ibrahim Ansari Nah, mate. Virgil got way more awards than him this season. And if Messi was that good, than he would have gotten past Virgil. But guess what, he didn't.
@@oscarmurphy3441 yeah so
why is paul merson still talking? he's clueless
when you are so good 70+ goal involvements don.t mean anything
WOW....ridiculously good he is
it's bizarre to watch every sports news channel having love relationships with certain teams, where other team is also in exact situation. Sky always say Marcus is only 21 and is tired of playing every game and has big responsibilities on his shoulder. Therefore it's not his fault that he's not playing good in games, while Tammy Abraham is also in exact situation, But seems doing all good. He's starting every game, scoring goals, only 22 years old and has LESS premier league experience than Marcus. So it means Marcus is not good enough. Also, it seems nobody is talkin about Chelsea's youngsters and how well they are doing. There's reason why they are in top4, but Arsenal and ManU youngsters are still better than Chelsea and worth to talk about. Look at Tammy, Mason and Hudson-odoi. Playing every games and doing great and getting results for the team. But NO. Chelsea is not worth to talk about. Also nobody talks about Frank Lampard. What are his training methods or how he's organising players, not even how well he's done his job is so far. Everyday Pocetino and Ole. Two managers yet to accomplish anything in their long managerial career. It's real SAD.
I am a Ronaldo fan but Messi deserves the Ballon Dor.
Look at this twice messi Ronaldo loser ??? How in the World if u ask me to Name the best 3 Players of the last decade it would go messi Ronaldo Lewandowski vvd isnt anywhere near that
Mark Bilby, if you say Messi and Ronaldo are losers what is Van Dijk really. Isn't he a looser too? He lost the PL, the ELC, the F.A cup and the Nations League. So, you tell me who is the bigger looser, Cristiano(3 trophies) Messi(2 trophies) Van dijk(1 trophy).
You shouldn’t support one player. Support a team- your favourite player should be in that team. If you were a Madrid fan and switched to juventus that’s shameful. If you always been juventus fan fair enough.
Cian Whittington, I am a football fan buddy. I love watching good quality football specially special talents, whoever or in which ever team he might be in.
Asangla Kmc fair enough but I don’t think you should be a ‘fan’ of one player. You should be a fan of their team and like the player
Hahaha this fool is so biased messi just 50 goals vvd is not deserved
Van dike been at Liverpool for how long 2 years? Messi been at barca his whole life picking easy games as wins
@@PoolCube easy games in the league where 7 out the last 11 CL winners and 6 of the last 11 Europa league winners are from huh. Not like La Liga has a lower goals per game than Premier league and has the highest ranking of all leagues in the world...
@@martox3560 That is because the money are floating upwards. You are essentially arguing for why Messi shouldn't be considered, since he plays on one of the most successful sides on the richest club, that plays in a league where 50% of the TV money were divided by Real and Barcelona and 18 other teams shared the rest. Sevilla and Atl. Madrid has been successful in EL, because La liga not only caters to clubs European adventures, but also holds greater interest for them, and lastly, because the league is nowhere near as demanding as PL. Every manager that has managed in both argue that PL is the toughest league by far.
@@janniknielsen9292 you do know that Each and every premier league team get more money than Barca and Madrid from tv money right?
In 17/18 salah had 44 and finished 6th
If I was a Spurs fans I'd be just as worried about losing son. I'm a Liverpool fan and I would take son in a heartbeat. Imagine son, mane and salah behind firmino.
the thing is we expected this type of season from messi; we didnt with van dijk, this is why van dijk is favourite like modric last year because people like to move onto new players that have hit an exceptionally good year
Merson is spot on, very easy to score 50 goals against Espanyol and Getafe, and the Barca whole team is at the service of Messi. That's why Coutinho was a flop there.
What a disgraceful foolish comment ffs please delete it now.
Leicester are currently thrashing Southampton 7-0. The EPL has its own Espanyol’s and Getafe’s.
What about UEFA goals you molon.
Last season they were claiming Salah was the best, now its van Dijik come on now.... Liverpool have a great team with some fantastic players, but no ways are any of them the best player in the world. This is definitely gonna be like Modric’s situation....
Van Dijik is the best defender in the world.....at the moment....that's for sure. Best player....debatetable....but definitely the best defender.
Stephen Lisson I respect your opinion, but can we firstly agree how many dominant performances does on have to have in order to be the best for the moment? Personally if you haven’t dominated for at least two seasons you cant be the best.... i Van Dijik can continue his dominance for the entire season than i would gladly agree with you. But this One season thing is just hype....
Love Paul Merson !!! Always speaks his mind and so passionate one of the best pundits I think
even when he is talking crap ;)
If VVD doesn't win it,then it's a travesty. He easily stops as many goals being scored in a season than a top striker scores.
He's amazing. And Liverpool wouldn't be half as good (and wouldn't have won the champions league) without him in their squad
Im a Liverpool fan but I dont know, Messi was great, I agree with Mane that Messi deserves it more
Merse is spot on about Harry Kane couldn’t agree more with him
that he should be in that list!?! Or that he should join United?
Gracious Kasunda about winning trophies
My boy Bernardo Silva deserves it for playing quality football and working hard for the team like a machine. Bernardo #1.
If sterling would have gotten 50+ goals last season they would be going bonkers but since it is expected from messi to do that every sesson he does not get enough credit
And where was van djik when they lost 3-0 to Barca.Taking Messi for granted
A rebound goal off the crossbar and a messi freekick? Apologies he cant fly to stop a top corner freekick. Guess he showed up in the 4-0 eh
@@yt2530 yes.But how can they criticize Messi for not scoring against Liverpool when Coutinho and Suarez missed chances. Also he is not a typical goal scorer but more of a midfielder, who took barca to the semifinals and had scored 51 goals that season.
Dinesh Rijal Just like how you criticised Van Dijk for not stopping a messi free kick or a rebound goal off the crossbar?
@@yt2530 I didn't want to criticize him.He is the best CB in the world by a million miles. It was a reply to the pundit of sky who criticized Leo for a game against Liverpool.Otherwise it should be impossible to criticize both of them.Liverpool could have won the first leg by the same margin and they were unlucky to lose by 3-0 because of Messi.If Leo wasn't there it would have been 5-1 or 4-0 in that tie.
Has Merson been drinking?
The thing about being a defender is that there's no real way of using stats to prove how good a season they've had. Clean sheets are all well and good but are ultimately a team effort, the only real way to tell is to sit back and watch the performances
Ask Hazard how easy it is to score in La Liga. Sometimes people don't give credit to Messi because they compare him to his previous years rather than him to others. What he did last year was phenomenal, nobody came near him in terms of individual stats or performances.
Messi should win it. Simple.
Why? He bottled the second leg 😂😂
Hamza AFC
Exactly, VVD and Messi deserve it and are worthy, I just think Messi deserves it more and is more worthy.
@@ITzDECORT VVD bottled the league and that useless Nations League Tournament and FA Cup and EFL.
@@ITzDECORT Is he the whole team. My God why is everyone foolish. The defense went to sleep and made mistakes, he gave through balls to suarez and coutinhoand the missed. These babies saying Messi is a bottler... if he leaves barca they will be like real madrid last year. at the end Messi is a victim of his own success.
I think Van Djik just deserves it a little bit more because he won more trophies. Its kind of a coin flip for me.
as for merson and the english media and pundits... so stupid and biased. Lewa and Aguero are better than kane, Even Auba is. I would say Firmino is a better all round player than kane.
If prem teams go to La Liga only city and liverpool would be in a title race.
Where’s Andy Robertson
I think Virgil should win the Ballon d'or because he has changed the way defenders play their game. He has strengthened Liverpool's defense and made the players around him better. I feel that it would be nice for a defender as good as him who has dominated Messi and Ronaldo when he has played against them.
How has he changed the game?
If any other player besides Messi accomplished what Messi did last year: Golden boot winner, top scorer in La Liga, Champions League and all of Europe in general and top 3 in assists, they would win by a landslide. Messi deserves Ballon D’Or, Virgil had a great season, but still not better than Messi individually. This is an individual award which goes to the best player of every year, and Messi was by far the best player last season.
Paul merson chats nonsense digging into pepe knowing pepe needs to settle in shows how much he know about foottball
Pepe missed a tapin last game, so you’re saying he needs to settle in to tap a football into a net?
@@knurie hes low on confidence and werent talking about a tappin you brought that up not me me and you twisted my words
@@starballer1151 weird how he's not low on confidence when he's doing step overs and running at players 🥴
@@JP-nm4xu doing step over dosent me your not low on confidences for example you could a step over the have an opportunity to shot and score but you dont you pass it not because your teammate is in space because your low on confidence so for you to say that shows your lac of intelligence of football
@@knurie didnt say that you twisted my words is that what you have to do to try make your point
Lol! Paul Merson clearly doesn't watch anything apart from the premier league
Merson is here because he's loved by the majority of the public. Haters always gonna hate.
How can van Dijk even be considered? Ramos has captained Madrid to how many champions leagues? van Dijk wouldn't even compare to Rio Terry Vidic and Carvalho in their prime
Can you be any more bias Merson?
“If he wasn’t at the club I don’t think they’d be where they are” and where would Barca be without Messi you absolute clown. Winning trophies is irrelevant and shouldn’t even be considered for the best individual player award.
People don't realise how bad Barca are without Messi but tbf wouldn't mind if VVD won it he deserves it as much as Messi.
Traditionally the Balon d'Or has gone to a player that was in the Champions league winning side for that year.
Why shouldn't it? Winning trophies is what you play football for. You wouldn't give Josh King the award if he scored 50 in all competitions but still finished 8th in the league. Football is about winning and winning trophies is put on your individual resume, thats why people say ''hes better than him because he won this''
safe because it’s an individual award. Stick Messi in that Liverpool team with the same stats and nobody would even mention VVD. Can’t punish Messi because his team isn’t as good as VVD’s. Can’t say Anderson was better than Gerrard because he won the premier league 4 times.
@@2723cadd I'm not saying thats all that comes into it, and thats a completely different situation. Messi has 20 goals 20 assists and won the CL, Ronaldo has 20 goals 21 assists and won nothing, who are you honestly taking? If Its Ronaldo then thats why you arent a voter.
“John Stones has as much talent as him (VVD)” - Mers🤯
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paul merson really cant handle numbers
John Stones is as talented is as Virgil. Don't think Merson has fully kicked the drugs yet
GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!! as talented. What games are you watching? What a PLANK!!!!!!!
I like the way that no matter what the subject of these videos is, when Paul Merson's involved 50% of the comments will solely be about him
We need a definition of what ballon dor winning means
Yes of course he deserves it
Except messi does
Ben Edgar for bottling 3 of his biggest games this year? 🤣🤣
VVD bottled the prem.
Either one deserve it. If Messi wins it I would be fine with it, if VVD wins it I would be fine with it. No other player in the world deserves it though, if it somehow went to Ronaldo I would be mindblown.
James Hussain shut up u clown, how is getting 97 points bottling? He was an integral part of getting us to 97 points, so Idk why ur moving mad.
Should be Messi
Can't get enough of the Egyptian King any day of the week... Its the way he plays the beautiful game that stands out for me and Yess folks he's probably the closest thing in world football to Messi and despite being a little behind Messi which is not a problem at all because Mo Salah is also the closest thing to a non striker that scores that many goals and well distributed throughout the season which makes him the more and more effective in as many games as possible... Last but not least Salah over two seasons is the player with the highest assist to goal ratio which soooo many people bypass in favour of the new Ultra Bias hashtag that suggest Mo is selfish and a whole song and dance about it and now that he is passing every single ball he gets nowadays over the last 5 games hope this has satisfied the extremest camp that are trying ever so hard to dis him and bring him down mentally and if not then why not cut off his massive global fan base into halfs and try and make him the villan since he's so good outside and inside the pitch morally speaking then why not suggest any negatives to his game and go along with it like a song and dance in favour of others in attack! Just know one thing for a fact folks and that you could easily check out online as a general stat, The entire Liverpool attack looked different since Mo joined affecting not only games but the mentality of the player around him especially in attack Bobby and Mane whom both numbers prior to Mo joining Liverpool were mediocre at very best and nowhere near the new standards that Mo Salah has set to everyone inside Liverpool expectation wise from our attack and full respect to Mane and Bobby they've raised their game immensely and numbers easily show before him joining and after... So it is Mo Salah plus VVD are the two most valuable players in Liverpool and numbers never lie let alone the sublime football each of them play and in such commanding level that it truly inspires all those around them..
Did we not see the same debate for uefa player of the year
*Well yes but actually no*
Both Virgil and Messi deserve to win this year. I’ll be happy with either
Jimmy white haha u r so funny now give the phone back to ur dad
Jimmy white of course cuz u have nothing else to do
Messi deserve it.
Then call Terry and give him 3 ballon d'ors he deserved for winning PLs and CL with Chelsea. Bullshit
Poor shout calling it a Virgil Van Dijk video then predominantly talking about Harry Kane
Of course he should of won it but they’re all up messi and Ronald’s arse. Probably getting a back hander ✋
Kane would not get 25 goals in that united team 😂😂😂😂😂
Don't get as many penalties when you park the bus
Johnny Hardcore absolute truth. Not a soul on earth could score 25 in that team.
stop arguing ppl
just ask VVD, he says messi should win......he even voted messi.
@• Haze • I just love the fact mane said messi is the best
@• Haze • Most people who know anything about football and can see the beauty in the game would say messi is the best
(I don't see anyone sayin Ronny ;)
@• Haze • that's why ronaldo won all those years instead of ramos and why we think of pele maradona zico best kroyff messi ronaldo Cristiano ronaldinho romario. And the odd defender like (can't even remember his name...but played fire ac milan jersey was retired) point proven I think soooo...
I like Merson he’s got something about him
Merson is delusional. I think VVD will win it though he is not the best player..
I am just sick and tired of these pundits analysis. They just don't know what they are talking about. I mean if it is truly for the best player . Then go and just watch stats of whole season .. who wins more matches on his own...... Who won most motm award... I think messi should have 2xnext best player... Most goals in both cl and la liga . Topping almost every possible attacking chart...... And if you are talking about anfield I have got a news for you too. He was the best barca player... He was surrounded by 3 or 4 players whole match still he got some brilliant through balls it was suarej poor finishing costs barca the game...... I mean come on...
I’m sure Merson was in this show a few weeks ago saying Van Dijk doesn’t deserve it and it should be Messi who wins. Pretty sure Merson just makes it up as he goes along, including how you pronounce players names
You can only be as good as you are in your positon. In my opinion the best goalkeeper, the best defender, the best midfielder and the best forward should be nominated and then pick the winner out of those.
Van Dijk is performing at a level for a centre back I've never seen before. The way he defends is impressive and it looks easy to him most of the time. The fact that he's even being considered for this as a defender says a lot. Just like Messi is a brilliant forward in his way, but is he as good as he was previous seasons? I'm not sure, but he's still the best.
Suiram82 “ever seen before”... how old are you?
Livepoop plays with 7 defenders week in week out.....just have a Attacking Mid and lets see if VVD is the best??
John stone's isn't even close to van dijks defensive ability
Van dIjk is so good hes become a Meme...
Van Dijk has made getting dribbled past a big thing. No one cared for this stat before VVD because getting dribbled past happens often.
Bradley Corl Otamendi vs Jimenez is the prime example why defenders shouldn’t just lunge in. But when Virgil is at a opportunity to tackle someone he gets it done. He’s only backed off on one player and that was Messi every other he’s sorting them out
What a player Kewell was....A yearly Ballon D'Or top 10 player if he could have been more injury free.
Mahrez..??🤦🏻♂️.. Ederson or Fernandinho should be there instead of him...
It's not based off of one club. If Mahrez doesn't make the cut you have to consider players from *every other team also.*
I have no idea where Mahrez came from as a candidate.
Ederson for sure. I'm a big Liverpool fan and Allison and Ederson are the 2 best keepers in the world. I'd also have to throw in Oblak.
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Although, I hate Liverpool but I agree with you in part, I think they are among the top five goalkeepers.
Barca couldn't reach UCL FINAL cuz DEFENSE was disasters in anfield.....messi tried everything he could...!!!
That’s a lame excuse. One goal and Barca go to the final. However, Messi still deserves to win. I don’t blame him for Dembele’s poor finishing in the first leg.
What Merson's saying about Kane is exactly what everyone said Gerrard should move to Chelsea, and he stayed with his hometown club and won the champion's league.
Personally I think individuals awards are dumb. It favors goal scorers too much. A team need a goal scorer, like they need a creative midfielder, holding midfielder, defenders, GK, etc.
no, next.
TruRedTV ra calm down 😂😭
TobyMUFC 14th uno 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The answer is NO for anyone that doesn’t watch Messi x
ronaldo winning the ballon dor not messi
Messi failed in cL
donny don Top scorer🤡
Keyuante Johnson bait.
Messi end of. Before him and Ronaldo came along a striker scoring 20 - 25 goals and 5 or so assists was considered to be top top class and the two of them have blown that out of the water for the last 10 or so years. They've set the bar so high they're victims of their own success. eg modric winning last year
Just make a ballon D'or for every position. Therefore Messi would win best forward, De Bruyne would win best midfielder, Van Dijk would win best defender and Alisson/oblak/ Ederson would win best goalkeeper. Simple as that.
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He deserves to win it, but he’s not gonna win it because of a little man called Messi
Why do you have to specify he's little?
@@amarmann8341 Messi has most likely ruined his team before
@@amarmann8341 cause he's disabled and I bully ppl like that
@@osavnpk3507 u don't call Ronaldo a tall man called Ronaldo 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
@@amarmann8341 shh be quite
Kane needs to win trophies... join man united lol
What are u staring at hahaha
Harry Kewell, aussie legend!!
Why do they talk about Ronaldo in this conversation? The guy got out scored by 36 year old Quagilarella! Messi contributed to 72 goals!