WHY AOT'S ENDING SUCKS
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All the anime onlys coming into the comments to tell you you're wrong are hilarious. They didnt even explain the worm or name it in the anime but these guys are gonna tell you you're wrong. They got a completely different ending with very little exposition 😂
😂😂😂
Could’ve sworn Zeke was talking to Armin about it in the paths. Something about life multiplying. Stop hating
bro, they set the ending so that they can release a new anime in like 4-5 years about the aftermath of the nuclear fallout this is gonna be fire
"didnt even explain"
the 2 well put and expounded comments about his argument below: 🤨😐
Zeke had a theory about the worm in the anime, he said it was the origin of life. We know the worm (it does have a name, "source of all living matter") is what gave Ymir power, Eldians during when Eren lived could turn into titans not because they are Eldians, but because they are descendants of Ymir and their ancestors ate parts of Ymir, which gave them the connection. The worm was never indicated to be dead or gone, so the extra ending does make sense especially if the message is to say that conflicts never end, with or without the power of titans.
The bonus ending is a simple reminder that no matter how much you struggle, war and conflict will always return at one point
Actually I respect that tbh
Also proves that Eren had no idea what would happen After his death, and that he learned of his death only After coming into contact with Ymir.
And most of all, like the Attack titan time Power, It shows how their world Is deterministic in nature, and there Is no free Will. And also how Life is made to repeat in cicle, since Evolution works in hindsight It has to make lot of things different and test out things, and then see what works with a crash test alias war. I think the author specifically chose this ending to express this idea on the real world, and to Say how much fantasy "Eren godking of Eldians" Is not realistic in the sense that It would be Cool, but that Is not how Life works. There Is no arrival to a perfect world were everything works, becouse Life Needs to test and invent, so It eventually leads to problem but It Is also what allows Life to endure and progress.
It also points out how there are social behaviors specifically designed to work as a species to repeat this cicle, this meant to work no matter what and also to make It impossible for anyone in a species to end Life. One of this social behaviors, while they are hard to point out, Is hate for other political groups, masses general idea on a situation/concept, and crap like racism but not exactly. It Is a bunch of things that as a species make Evolution work, but It also makes horrible Shit like wars exist.
@@stefanomartinelli7344 Who are you, so full of knowledge in the language of FACTS?
@@THEDIVISIONbythedivisionbell
My self doubt and the fact that my english Is bad makes this confusing, not sure of you were joking or It was a genuine compliment.
Anyway, the 2 hours of video I named mostly. And also personal experience studing microbiology, along side personal insternal conflicts that made me think about those things before I read the story and fully realized them as concepts After.
Thought, this Is the First Time I managed to properly explain them.
@@THEDIVISIONbythedivisionbell
Hum, Sorry. My second comment was wroung. I was Thinking about another conversation under this video.
Anyway, there Is a 2 hours long video if you want to spend time that explains the ending, I belive you can find It by searching "Eren Is (not) free". Gives a new light to the ending, the time concept in the series, side material and a few other things. It helped me understand what was going on.
Here's my understanding:
While Kruger and Grisha could see Eren's future memories (even though they really only saw what Eren allowed them to see), none of them would be able to see past Eren's death because his death also marks the death of Ymir's Founding Titan, severing their connection through the paths. No more paths means no more future memory inheritance and no more Subjects of Ymir. Every Eldian has reverted back to humans with no dormant Titan abilities.
Now we have this kid in the future, let's call him Marco for now. If he comes into contact with the new Hallucigenia, this will create a new Founding Titan and a new coordinate (the point where the paths connect). From then on his future descendants wouldn't be "Subjects of Ymir," they would be "Subjects of Marco," a new line of Titans connected to him just like the previous line were all connected to Ymir. Thanks to Mikasa, this kid has no connection at all to Eren or Ymir. Without this connection it's impossible for Eren see this kid's future memories.
Yoooo imagine if there was a whole founding titan before ymir too. Danggggg
@@noahmulawin4350 Yeah that's what I think this ending might be hinting at.
This would be fire especially if it means that there were multiple founders before Ymir as well
@@JahMakesNerdies Like I said earlier, I think that's what the ending is hinting at. It could be that Ymir stumbled upon the Hallucigenia 100 or so years after the founder before her died.
@@shannonowens24 like I said, that would be fire. 😂
The 2000 years history of Attack on Titan can be viewed as Founder's Ymir personal struggle to overcome her Stockholm Syndrome (A real mental struggle where the captors fell in love with the kidnappers). She knows she is supposed to hate King Fritz who burned down her village, killed her family, enslaved and torture her. But being born and living the life she had, she still yearned for love and unfortunately fell for the worst man possible. OVERSIMPLICATION yes but you get the main gist. She is struggling and wants to be free from her obsession.
About Eren, Ymir is the only one with the power to decide what happens with the Titan's power. Even in the episode "From you, 2000 years ago" Eren only prompted Ymir's to decide. However, like Eren said, he is powerless from this, as the Attack Titan he can see and experience the past, present and future all at the same time, he had tried to look for alternative solutions but the vision of the future just WOULD NOT change. (See Eren's convo with Armin) He didn't wanna go through with the Rumbling (His personal struggle and monologue in the previous movie) but he had very little choice, his only way is to move forward, he is A SLAVE OF FREEDOM.
Re: Eren blaming himself for directing Dina towards mom. What people need to understand is AoT's story is a fixed single timeline and cannot have TIME PARADOX. What happened has happened, THE PAST CANNOT CHANGE. Actually in that moment in time (mom gets eaten), Eren was neither the Attack Titan (Dad) nor Founding Titan(Freya). Future Eren can only speak to previous inheritors of Attack Titan (Dad) who was busy stealing Founding's power (He HAD to make his dad do it because that already happened, that is the only way he get founding powers and the only way he could see into the past). Future Eren couldn't do anything in a larger scale of things because it is a paradox. (If Eren asked dad to save his mom, mom didn't get eaten, Eren wouldn't become the Attack/Founding Titan and wouldn't see this memory and couldn't ask dad to save mom; It's a PARADOX; if he sees this memory then his mom has already been eaten), he is just watching it happen, powerless and can only blames himself. As Historia said: this is not Eren's choice, it's the consequence of everybody's action that caused the Rumbling. If the wall was never broken, mom never eaten, Eren never got Founding Power, Rumbling wouldn't happen. Imagine being Eren, you get to see all past, present and future at the same time but everything is set in stone, he can't change anything, he can only move forwards and see how the story plays out
About Mikasa, she is the real person Ymir was waiting for all these while because Ymir sees herself in Mikasa. The "Runaway story" is like Infinite Tsukiyomi, it is only a VISION/DREAM of a possible future, the viewer experience it fully but it never happened in reality nor there is another timeline. Mikasa was presented with 2 scenarios 1) Give up on saving humanity and runaway with Eren, but this way Ymir continue to be a slave to King Fritz, Titan power remains and continue to terrorize humanity 2) Refuse to give up on humanity and sacrifice her love (she can still love Eren nonetheless), and Ymir can finally be free of Fritz command and choose to remove Titan Power from this world. Mikasa was able to influence Ymir to make the decision to be free from King Fritz. Hence in Ymir's vision she chose not to protect King Fritz (this is only symbolism, the past didn't change, only showing the change of Ymir's heart, once again, THE PAST CANNOT CHANGE)
The whole conversation between Armin and Zeke is basically a discussion about nihilism thinking that basically says "what's the point of living if all things eventually die, why does anything matter if everything comes to an end/dies" To the fans who think "AoT's ending is meaningless because war and conflict continues anyway" -Your thinking is very much like Zeke - "what's the point of living if everyone dies? what's the point of peace if conflict perpetuate?" try to think of it this way - Zeke asked Armin "Why do you wanna go back to fight so much if everything's gonna die anyway? " and Armin/Isayama said to him "Every small moment and happiness in life is worth living, even though all good things come to an end" This is also why AoT and Isayama didn't choose to go with the EUTHANIZATION plan, because all lives born is free, there will be good things that happen to them, and we shouldn't take this away from them. MANY people missed this but THIS is also a BRILLIANT 4th wall break homage saying THANK YOU to the readers - "Even if AoT is about to end, every moment that we (Isayama and fans) shared together was WORTH IT"
The Ending/Conclusion of Attack on Titan is spoke through Levi's monologue = the sacrifice of the hearts of the scout regimen was to reach this place - "A WORLD WITHOUT TITAN". This brings the whole AoT story to a FULL CIRCLE. It might not feel satisfying for some but it is a SUITABLE Ending consistent and come back to its origin - "Getting Rid of Titans from this world". Isayama didn't set out to provide a solution for human conflict, what he did was only pointing out through Pixis and Erwin that "human conflict will never end until there's only 1 man remain." He emphasized it once again through the end credits shots - nor matter what happens, human conflict never ends. Even if the Rumbling was complete, Paradis will still fight a civil war, even if Paradis was wiped out, the human remain will continue fighting".
However to say this ending is MEANINGLESS was a misinterpretation, the whole discussion on the boat with Historia's letter is designed to specifically answer this - the scouts shall continue to fight in a world without titan, and they shall always fight for peace - Armin: "they will want to hear our story, how we used to fight as enemies have now come together to advocate for peace" This can be viewed as another 4th wall break talking about Attack On Titan, a story about conflict, about human cruelty, about war, about racism, despite EVERYTHING that happened, the ending comes down to both sides reconciling, advocating for peace and working for a better future.
Now for the end credits where we see paradis getting destryed eventually and people mistake it as it was all for nothing but its wrong, eren always knew that the cycle of hate, war and conflict would never end but his actions did bought a peace of atleast 500-1000 years (the buildings looks so futuristic) eren his achieve his goal that was so at least his friends and people on paradis that he knew get to live a long peacefull life and die a natural death by growing older. After a 1000 years modern war happened and paradis was destroyed. It shows that the conflict and war is a never ending cycle, even if eren killed all 100% of humanity except for eldians, conflict would arise between eldians. it is a never ending cycle, we also saw a person in the end who went inside the tree as in a theory that teh cycle is repeating again just like how ymir went in the tree. So long as humans exist in this world, there will always be war and hate. conflict will only end until we're down to one or less humans. That is the reality of our world.
This is a fcking amazing comment. Bravo for your brilliant explanation.
I agree! Taking away eledians ability to have children is taking away their freedom to be as happiest as they can be. I mean they can always adopt, but its still taking away a freedom which eren promised not to do to his people.
Eren still fulfilled everyone's dream to live in a world without titans. There's nothing anybody can do about humanitys nature to create mindless and meaningless conflict with one another. Look at the united States with our political bs, trump supporters n whatever. Hajime was just being realistic. It would have been too easy to create a happy ending. The only gripes I had with the ending was that the pacing may have been too rushed. Taking out 80 percent of the population should take lil longer than what shown in the manga. I would have liked to see air planes being invented trying to take on Titans but that's just my preferences. The ending was still good with its themes.
facts
You deserve some good head for this comment
Bro wrote an essay for 35 likes
He probably did see it, but his main purpose was for his friends to live in a world of peace, as he knew conflict never ends.
But these weirdos want AoT to end like Disneys 😆😆😆
Yes his friends indeed did, but let’s say thousands of years cause of how modern the island was, it shows in the ending, war will always happen cause of humans.
Then why he kill his mother? He loves his mother more than anybody else!
@@TonyBeanifybecause if the titan killed bertolt his plan would have failed there and then and he wouldn't have been able to give them a time of peace to live long and happy. I pains me that people can struggle with a concept so simple. You see him crying and breaking down multiple times when he talks to ramzi and armin about getting sasha killed he didnt want it but it was pre determined or necessary.
@@RaginCanadian-gx2zl Hey simpleton, you do realise if Eren is able to manipulate Dina away from Both Bertolt AND his mum right? It just pains me that people like you don't realise how stupid this whole plan is. You should watch Code Geass to improve your IQ. That anime is a True Masterpiece.
"History repeats itself" It's shows that there is no perfectness in this world.
The problem is people wanna treat it like a fairytale and want some happy ending, I mean certain happy endings are better than others just not this one 😂
FMAb goes brrrrrrrrrr
@@Shtddy702 No one wanted a happy ending lmao.
Besides that it WAS a happy ending for degenerate EreMika shippers
If you gonna stop rumbling by power of friendship then jump back into “normal” then… oh I forgot that Isayama wanted to write dark comedy and loves marvel movies…sorry my bad.
@@Shtddy702 but it was a happy ending until the extra pages. Lol. Everyone was living happily ever after and became friends
Because Eren’s foresight only reaches to when he’s alive. The Coordinate as it is is destroyed during the finale, and so anything that happens in the future is unseen because it’s an entirely different power
And if you think the story was “meaningless” because the cycle will start again, that’s exactly the point of the show. There is no happy ending, there is no true end to conflict or hatred, and so the cycle will always continue. It’s a very bleak ending that leaves people defeated, but that’s exactly it’s point: the cycle of hatred is forever ongoing and war will always take place
not to mention eren through his actions simply created another event for world to hate eldians over, another forest which he left children of next generation in
@Return Of the black kings
It only sees peices of the future, It Is also made clear that It only works for the future as long as the titan Power exists.
I belive Eren even (kinda) points that out in the finale.
@Return Of the black kings only if it's Ymir titan bloodline . when eren died with founding Titan power the whole Ymir coordinate is destroyed.
In the future if founding Titan power comes back it will form a new coordinate. That's why eren can't see it.
I think the point of the show is to present armins way of living. Live to experience what's good around you because living just to kill is meaningless, so it's better to live your life and enjoy your ice cream.
Wut, Grisha was able to foresight the rumbling decades before it happenes
In this ending the dog gets the powers 😂 attack on paw patrol lol
First of all it's an open ending and second In chapter 137 Zeke mentioned it wasn't the tree and the organism alone that turned Ymir into a Titan. It was her wish to not die, to continue living, it's what manifested her Titan body. So very big IF the boy gets any power it would be completely different from Ymir
@@avid4288he was joking
@@tyd068 you never know ending haters are dumb asf
@@avid4288 i wasn't trying to hate I just thought you didn't know...
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Eren just wanted to make sure the people he loves live a longer and happy life. That’s all mattered to him. He didn’t give a shit about what happens afterwards.
What was the purpose of the Ramsey scene then?
@@t-ro6176 ymir is now free theres no motive on having a new meta of titans if it revives. i dont know if whats gonna happen in the future of it
ymir is now free theres no motive on having a new meta of titans if it revives. i dont know if whats gonna happen in the future of it
Then why he kill his mother? He loves his mother more than anybody else!
@@TonyBeanifycuz he needed his younger self to have a reason to hate titans and try and get revenge on them which led him to do things he needed to do in the past to start the rumbling
It also implies that the events of Attack on Titan were not the first time the founding titan was awakened. But if Eren didn't know that, even with the memories of all titans, It implies that each time the founding titan does emerge, That all previous memories are erased. We never got an answer as to what exactly that weird Centipede thing was or why it was just chilling in a tree. But the tree was huge, There was already a history before Ymir. And history repeats itself.
Wow that is true and also dark af
That ancient centipede: Hellucigenia is the main source of founding titan. When inheritor of last founding titan was berried under a tree Hellucigenia regenerate from the host body and make the tree its host untill another more intelligent host comes in contact which appears to be ymir. Same goes for when eren the last founding titan berried, that centipede which probably still lied on erens head regenerated and lived in the tree
@@biplab3389 And if you really think about it that's what erens founding titan looked like...
Exactly my man Idek why tf everyone is angry about the ending
@@biplab3389hold up, does that mean the tree where eren was buried turned into that tree from the boy and dog's timeline?
Eren let his people get bombed to high heaven and the Titan powers just came back lol
Right 💀💀💀
He allows his friends to live long peaceful lives, that was literally his goal
@@Jablickymorant lol Armin spent the rest of his life working as a diplomat to ensure there was peace.
"Ayo Armin lemme **** 80% of the world real quick and leave you guys to suffer the consequences. PEACE OUT!" what a great guy lol.
@@johannliebert2870 woah doesn’t change my point😭 he accomplished his goal
@@Jablickymorant lmao, sure, at the cost of 80% of the rest of the world, his friends continually worrying about a counter-attack for the rest of their lives and working to ensure there was peace despite justifiably being seen as literal monsters, their descendants getting wiped out ~100 years later, and the Titan powers coming back anyways, causing the whole cycle to repeat.
"But Eren definitely won, he just wanted Mikasa to get her back blown out by Jean!!!"
Ymir: Ah sh*t here we go again 💀
😂😂😂
it wouldn't be ymir.... it would most likely start a new i suppose
Eren himself said that "War will not stop" i think he means that the fight between Titans and Human will continue till one exits
Eren couldn't see it because he died before it
Eren Krueger Died Way Before Eren Was Born, Yet He Knew To Tell Grisha To Protect Armin & Mikasa. If anyone at any point in time reinherits the founder/attack, that means Eren Should've also seen their memories as well
@@JahMakesNerdies not really. Ymir was the original host and all other eldians descended from her bloodline, so they also had the genes that responded to titan shenanigans. If someone else came into contact with the hallucigenia it would create a different family tree, a completely separate coordinate and ethnicity. The new host would be like Ymir; the start of a new bloodline disconnected from the eldians.
@@JahMakesNerdies thats because Eren gave kruger these memeories
@@deadsoon It’s the same hallucigena that was was with Ymir. There’s no reason it shouldn’t have all the previous memories associated with it. Why would it be a different race? It would just be Titan shifting Eldians all over again. You’re making assumptions without any actual backing. Why would it be disconnected from Eldians when it was the exact same thing that was in the Eldians? Also, even if it was a new race, the Titan powers still exist, so nothing was achieved either way.
@@underleon-grandcross9559 exactly
“History repeats itself” that’s literally the message of this whole series. Titans will return after possibly eons have passed and they became a myth. A new race through that Boy’s bloodline will become the new titan race hence a new world dominating empire, war and suffering and repeat.
It deadass ruins the story bro, maybe from a thematic perspective it’s good. But completely destroying the significance of every event in your story just to say “history repeats itself” is absolutely abhorrent writing imo
That girl is still an eldian .
In the panel before paradis got attacked and she ran into the woods escaping the chaos.
So no she’s literally the generations after eren.
@@Vizzy.787That was my initial thought as well - but now I think that actually adds to the value of the ending. The show consistently portrays both the marleyan and eldian sides as victims of circumstance, with both sides having committed sins and their descendants now fighting because they feel the other side is their enemy. This comes to a head when the alliance wins and it seems like hey it’s all over - which the extra pages abruptly take away by showing us that yeah they tried and possibly had peaceful lives but humanity doesn’t change, war is going to break out again, and there are going to be more victims of circumstance. I’m actually a fan of this ending as we get both the happy ending for our characters and an overall realistic ending.
My only gripe is that eren should’ve done the rumbling with full intention of finishing it, as a means of showing his belief that war never ends until one side is destroyed, and so being proven right in the end, instead of that whole making the alliance the heroes narrative because that just cheapens his character
@Playboicarti8 No it deadass doesn't bro, lol. Eren can't see passed his death, there fixed it for you little buddy. This story still exists within the world and the extended ending doesn't change the events that happened. If you are offended that time still moved on in this story, that sounds like your own delusional problem.
@@sharwama992couldn’t have still just been a Marlian living there? Does being eldian even mean anything anymore, y’know since titans are gone
That tree is where Eren was buried.
He will become like Ymir .
I agree
That doesn’t make sense though. It’s implying a new cycle. So if we look at the previous example, Ymir falls into the tree and begins her cycle where she controls the power of the titans. So in this example, the boy and his dog go in so they would be the Ymir in this case and not Eren. It’s not like when Ymir went in there, the previous cycle’s founder was controlling everything.
Eren is dead. There isn’t a coordinate for him to exist in like Ymir did
@@spenhappenin Eren is not entirely dead. Part of him live in the new parasite who live inside the tree. This parasite created a world able to memorise conscious even after death. It mean Eren is now part of it, as all people who were memorized by this thing before him. If i had to guess, this thing is the symbol of creation and life as it is in nature state, but it need to absorb life and conscious to survive. It need life to expand. By erasing Ymir and the Path, and since the parasite obeyed to the will of Ymir, when it created titans, we could imagine that this thing will create something else, a new type of power, in contact with someone else. But, a part of everyone who accessed it and died here before, live in it. We can even guess the cycle existed before Ymir. And the power Ymir obtained was because of the people existing in the parasite before her. We don't really know. But since there are birds around the tree, where there wasn't in the one with Ymir, it could mean Eren's will to be free gave to the parasite a new power, born from his will. I mean the capacity to see through bird's eyes.
The epilogue makes 100% sense. It's human history, as if we never learned from WW2 and the Civil war. We are headed towards either one or both.
But currently the Jewish ppl are alive and can enjoy a peacefull life in many countries
Yeah and they've become the oppressors now... only some of them ofc but still a large number. The cycle goes on
The new founding powers implied by that manga panel would be unrelated to Eren. Ymir found her titan parasite in a tree just like that but not her nor any other Eldian were able to see any memories predating the founder.
The memories are only passed down through bloodlines, just like titan powers. Each tree containing a titan parasite is quite likely a bookend on its own titan realm and titan bloodline, and its very much possible that there were titans before Ymir but the same thing that happened to Eren also happened to that founder which you can infer by Erens burial tree turning into a titan tree.
Eren couldn't see that because there were no remaining titan powers within the eldian bloodline, Ymir's version of the titan realm was erased, and that tree contains a fresh iteration of the power.
This is the most sensible explanation I've ever received, I'm actually willing to buy this
@@JahMakesNerdies I'm glad I could give you a new perspective on it. Hopefully you can enjoy the story better now with a justifiable ending.
@@JahMakesNerdies
If you want to spend 2 hours on this, there Is a video I can suggest that explains various things, like how Eren didn't know everything until he got the founder, how time works with the concept of perfect predictors, and also gives new perspective on the best scene (Eren starting the war). There are like 4 ways to read that scene, that keep changing as the story goes on. Honestly insane.
Anyway, CZcams doesn't let people put link anymore, I belive you can find It by searching "Eren Is (not) free" or something like that.
It also explains Eren saying that he would have done It either way, even if the Eldians weren't in danger, explaining Just how much Eren wanted to be a shounen main character. It doesn't make sense said like this, but It does with a side story made by author explained in the video, which gives a new light to Eren character. Basically the story Is aot characters in modern world, everyone Is free and there Is no Wall, but Eren is not Happy. Analyzing he story explain why he Isn't Happy, and It also explains why he would have Always done what he did.
Anyway, I'm not sure the video Is still up, but I think It Is. Hated the ending too before seeing that explanation, thought I hated the 8 Pages and not the ending before that. After the video, I saw the ending in a new light, I don't especially like It but now I see how It fits the story theme and characters. It kinda gave closure to the story and made It not feel like bad writing.
@@stefanomartinelli7344 W comment W life
And they could even find a way to use the titans for good since it looks like it’d go to an adventurous child and not a love deranged slave
the extended ending actually made it less shitty, it showed how reckless and naive stopping eren was, and it shows that eren had a point in doing what he did, cuz as he feared the world destroyed paradis island and its people, i thought it was great that isayama included this, made the ending realistic even if very depressing
I feel you on that I just wish Eren Would've finished the rumbling I think narratively It just would've made the most sense for his character
it made it kind of worse. but 139 is still bad too. basically 139 and 138 showed Mikasa was in place of Ymir and eren as king Fritz and that Ymir wanted to see herself break free from his control. but this literally contradicts erens character if they use eren.to represent king Fritz, that just says eren did the rumbling to conquer lands. when it's just to protect his land. And extended literally made eren and the alliance look like dumbasses, for one eren is just shown as an idiot for dooming his entire country for letting 20% of the world left. then the alliance are just shown as stupid trying to perform a truce and failing miserably by killing eren. Eren literally said he will keep moving forward and won't stop the rumbling, yet he does the opposite and dooms his bloodline. isayama must be a troll for making Aot from a masterpiece to garbage to burnt garbage
@@ggsd544 wait a minute, eren didnt stop the rumbling, they killed him before he could finish it? Im i forgetting something? im pretty sure thats what happened. Anyways i like the extended chapter cuz the alliance were indeed a bunch of dumbasses that had no plan to save the island yet didnt let eren protect it
Wait I am confused. What would happen if they wouldn't have stopped him??
@@JahMakesNerdies agreed, and the cycle wouldn’t repeat itself given that the titans would’ve won, now the wars will continue as symbolized by the ending and the kid going to the tree from which we can presume he will start the cycle all over again.
I was hoping they’d change the ending in the anime. That didn’t happen.
Same
What would you change?
@@DGTHOmake it make sense. Eren keeps contradicting himself. If he wants to save his friends and doesn't care what happens afterwards, he would choose Zeke plan, if he wants freedom like he should have(his whole character is being a slave to freedom) he would have completed rumbling. Instead we get Eren who fails to give long peaceful life to his friends and fails to get freedom, dies and Mikasa makes out with his corpse head and later Eren as a bird watches Mikasa and Jean make out. The whole Zeke helping part is dogshiwd, bad writing, the fact that Ymir loves the man who tortured her and r4ped her. Y'all are weird for defending the last 3 chapters. Eren makes no sense, Ymir makes no sense, Mikasa is creepy and Eren gets thanked for committing genocide, wtf.
Requiem will bring redemption. Eren will be the selfish freedom slave like he has always been. Ymir will have an actual motive, Zeke actually understands shid, Armin opposes Eren like he should, Eren doesn't spit out the most cheesy cringe shid ever, Paradis gets saved for at least thousands of years, because of Eren wiping all the opposers. Eren gets what he deserves for being the most evil person.
@@DashY_GDWhere does it say that Mikasa ends up with Jean?
Thing is there was no future Attack Titan for Eren to see through. Past, future and present user of the Attack Titan can see each other’s memories but we can ask what happens when there’s no Attack Titan left? The Hallucigenia might have survived but there was no guarantee that Eren’s consciousness survived with it.
That panel isn’t supposed to say that "the titans are coming back", all it says is that conflict never ends. Humanity is never going to stop fighting.
yes it sucks, but this is the harsh reality no matter what we do there will always be conflicts .
I think thats the main point. I dont understand why everybody wants a 'happy ending'. It wouldnt even fit with the type of anime AOT is..
@@derboidergeeonly immature people hate the ending.
@@dipannath9319well I don't hate Aot ending because of sad ending. I hate Aot ending because of ruining the entire plot. Think about it, If Eldians were destined to be destroyed then what's the point of this whole shit happening in the story. The scenario would have been the same even if Eren never existed (Paradis would have been destroyed by Reiner and Berthold). The only difference would be that 80% of the rest of the world survived rest would have still the same.
@@overallsuper5337how does that ruin the entire plot ? it shows that the world is cruel and trying to fight against it is futile , because that's the theme of the show that's been hammered from the start
@@mithvibes4727the ending was full of plot holes. Main character became plot device and did not achieve anything.
He did see it happen. He even said that no matter what he does, the conflict will never stop. So he decided that he at least wanted his friends to be free and live an enjoyable life
Ngl this is one of the best love tragedies ever written . This whole show is about love. Please don't @ me.
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@beanpotatoreviews184 i agree
Lol, no
I mean he did say that he only cared about his friends, and I don't think that 500 years later Mikasa will still be screaming "EREN"
Fair
Read end of ch123
if only his friends didn't decide to stop him
Fr bro imagine the ending we could've got if Reiner wasn't so lame
@@JahMakesNerdies we can only hope that there will be an anime orignal ending and that this was a 5d chess to prevent spoiler and subvert expectations
@@JV-km9xkbruhh I really hope there should be a diff ending iam really feeling broke noww
The remaining people would still start a war among themselves anyway
@@MoGamboGGwait what's the ending till now??
As my History teacher said "History repeats itself"
As an anime only I wanted to see what the whole manga debate was about. If the average level of analysis was this low then I can see why people hated the ending. How can the author make an ending that also satisfies people who straight up don't pay attention.
im in the same boat. im sorry manga only people but yall seriously are just misunderstanding things and had elements fixed in the anime's ending.
EVERYTHING that happened with characters motivations and speeches and actions is a lead up from the rest of the series.
Have you even read the same story lol. You may like or hate the ending, but this right here is directly explained in the late chapters of the manga. Titan powers came into existence by the power of the hallucigenia BECAUSE OF Ymir's personal wish/ personality/trauma. The hallucigenia just gives great power to its host, and the form of that power depends on the host. For Ymir it was the Founder Titan, but we don't know what could be for the kid at the end. I'm not going to get into what the tree at the end represents, I think it's pretty obvious, but it's truly beyond me how so many people interpret it as "so titan are coming back" 💀
Also, Eren made sure to give his beloved ones a peaceful, long happy life before he died. That was his goal. He knew he couldn't eradicate the conflict forever and save every eldian on paradis, he knew he couldn't change human nature. This is also beyond me, that people think Eren failed and accomplished nothing. He literally accomplished the one thing he truly desired; long, peaceful and happy lifes for his friends. He even got what he always wanted but could never really grasp: freedom, for Eren death was the only way of finally being free
That has nothing to do with the fact I stated, being that Eren Should've Seen This
@@JahMakesNerdiesSorry, I didn't answer that, but it's also one of those things that seems obvious to me. It's literally impossible Eren could've seen that. The events in the extra pages (the part of the tree) takes place hundreds of years after Eren's death, or even more. With Eren's death, the curse of the titans ended, along with the Founder Titan itself. The only reason Eren could see the future is because of the future memories sent by his future self (Founder Eren self) before the point of his death. He couldn't see anything past his own death, since there isn't any future self to witness it and sent those memories back
copeeeeee
@@JeanYouLuckyBoi you not going to debunk his points?
@@JahMakesNerdies he won't see it. Why? He is only a user of Founding Titan. He is not also a powerful God to see who will start the Titans in the future, only his lifetime is his limit.
Titans will never come back so long as that boy isnt running from a traumatic history of oppression and wishes for a bigger, immortal body to become stronger, if anything, if the creature is still there then his wish wont be so world ending at all😅
I don't think that the titan powers come back at all, I think it just shows the natural curiosity of humans. I believe it's just a normal tree now- Things are different, the boy isn't alone, running in fear, he's exploring with man's best friend. :)
Really interesting take, I hadn’t considered that
Even if it isn’t a normal tree, would he even become a titan?
Titans arent coming back. But something else would...whatever at that time that boy needs to survive.
i mean it shows that the rumbling was the only thing that could possibly save paradise from total destrucion
But it wasn't; that was what Fritz believed and imposed on each new host of the founder. Eren's will was what he put onto himself.
@@Starburst514Your delusional bro eren or not paradis would have gotten smoked so the rumbling is justified because it’s the only reality we’re the people outside the island wouldn’t attack it.
Even if only the paradise people survived,, they would’ve began arguing about another topic and conflict would still occur,, hence war will always exist
@@sharwama992 you're the one whose dululu because a major theme is the cycle of violence people bring into themselves. Even within the walls there was abuse, murder, serial killers, sex trafficking, abuse of power, etc. the Rumbling would have just left the people of Paradis to do that to themselves. Bringing it onto themselves.
Also yeah the Rumbling had to happen or it was sell out Historia, but that doesn't take away Eren still brought it into himself, he still chose to not confide in his friends, he still chose to resort to the very last option, when ideally a small scale rumbling could have worked and just taken out Marley because Marley had so many enemies in the world that would have at least put Paradis in some good standing with a few allies.
It doesn't matter whether it had to happen, the point was the cycle repeated itself, and there were still people willing to fight for peace against it
He quite literally only cares about his friends living a long and prosperous life, he said it like a million times.
Exactly! All his friends got freed from the titan curse and got to be the heroes in front of their families. There were only a couple he couldn't save like sascha and hange. All his friends go to live full lives and you see mikasas family with her visiting the grave.
Except for Hange and Sasha, and Eren admitting he didn't know if more of them would die.
''Wow, I should kill billions of people so just 3-4 losers can live out their stupid lives''
Do you realize you're just admitting your main character is mentally deficient?
@@gnomeimporta6912yes. That’s literally it. Eren isn’t sane and probably never was and the fact that we stuck along with him throughout the journey and followed along a literal maniac without knowing, kind of satisfies me, it’s a good subversion in my opinion.
Ending is a metaphor of how time is a flat circle and same things will happen again forever meaning humans cant change their nature. To me this was perfect ending and i have no idea what people expected.
Like c'mon men it ruined my childhood like c'mon it was good anime but WHY DO THEY HAD TO DO THE ENDING LIKE THAT 💔😭
Ymir’s power (Eren’s by proxy) was over her descendants. The Founder’s power begins with her receiving it & and ends with Mikasa’s actions. Eren couldn’t even see how Mikasa’s action played out. That extended ending cleared up the one thing that bothers most people about AoT’s ending arc… it was messed up because it will always be messed up. Man’s cycle of hatred cannot be stopped indefinitely. No matter what lengths a “hero” goes through, in time, they’ll become pretty enough to start the whole nonsense again. I’m convinced now that has Eren achieved 100% genocide, the remaining Paridisians would have grown, spread, then found reason to war with each other. Yaegarist and Alliance supporters developing into some kind of differing religious groups. Bet.
Literally the perfect explanation. The manga literally says that even if we were the last people alive on the island we would still have conflict (I think erwin or hange said that)
The ending basically makes the alliance look like the dumbest main cast in fiction
What? Literally how? They didn’t want global genocide, and so they did their best to stop it. They saved a portion of humanity. Decades after their passing war begins anew. That is the point of the story.
Because they are
😂😂😂😂
Because they had hope???
@@Serjio705Robloxhow I can not fully recall aot .
Idk how the ending goes over peoples heads it’s a masterpiece! Everyone just wants a dragon ball/Naruto ending.
I wanted completed rumbling
@@JahMakesNerdies complete rumbling wouldnt solve anything. Even if paradis is only left it, internal conflict still occurs. It was shown during their fight with the Military Police. What's worse is the titan powers would still exist and may be mishandled after some period of time. War never stops. Titans were never the problem from the beginning. Even at the time before Ymir turned into a tian, humans still had wars and conflicts. Regardless of the outcome if eren completed the rumbling or not, human will always find conflict.
Maybe he did see this but didnt care as long as his friends had the life he wanted for them.
I think if this ending happen it would leave so many questions
Immediately When the manga ends, there should be just one more page showing a little boy waking up from a Coma and saying who’s memories were those
Major W I would've loved that
This it rt here 💆🏾♂️💆🏾♂️
LITCH that would actually be the best thing ever i woukd love that
I mean that is basically Eren waking up at the tree saying he just had the longest dream he can't remember
corny ending and too predictable
The extended ending actually make sense and completes the story. Throughout AoT, it is hinted that despite having a common enemy, people will always find a way to fight each other. As long as there is even a slight difference, people would fight.
Eren realized this and decided to save his friends instead of world. He didn't even care if Paradise was destroyed afterwards as long as his friends and comrades live a good life. The extended part shows how there is no escaping the conflict and cycle of hatered will start again and again until there is only a single human alive.
AoT ending isn't like your traditional happy anime ending where everyone lives happily ever after. Its dark and close to reality which might be reason why people refuse to accept it.
Thank you someone who pointed it out plain and clear this need to be pinned
4 possibilities. 1. Because the titan power was gone for a while the memories might not have been transferred. 2. Eren did see it coming but didn't care because he only cared about his friends having a lifetime of peace. 3. We don't even know if what that guy discovers is even the titan powers. It could be something completely different. 4. The new titans might have different abilities so there may not be an Attack Titan.
Eren can only see things as far as until the point of his death..
Take a second to think about how illogical that comment is if someone else finds the hallucigenia. Even if no one else finds the hallucinogenia, how does it add up that his future sight only saw up until his death? That’s literally the opposite of how clairvoyance works, and Eren states that past present and future exist all at the same time for him to armin while explaining why war doesn’t go away. So why doesn’t he complete the rumbling?
THE EXTENDED ending is a middle finger to the fanbase by Isayama
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That's exactly what it felt like I feel bad now that he apologized though lmao
@@JahMakesNerdiesmaybe because y'all misunderstood his message so bad he started getting death threats by y'all ignorant asses 😂
I personally don't see it that way. Did you expect Attack on Titan to end on a happy note?
@@titan133760 I sure asl didn’t
He can’t see it happen because there isn’t a holder in this time period so he can’t time travel without there being an Attack Titan holder. He might have seen a future holder but he tried to change that future by doing the rumbling. Though in the end history always repeats itself.
All the Jaegerist in the comments be saying that the Rumbling should've been completed. But honestly, the euthanasia plan was so much better, considering that literally 80% of the humans were wiped out despite it not being completed. It's much more humane, still cruel, but so much better for the entire world. I mean, looking at the vast difference of numbers, eradication of the Eldians is just given. But hey, Eren is an Eldian from Paradis, I guess I can't really blame him for the Rumbling. I just think that he had been selfish, only really caring about the people of Paradis and his friends. At least Levi lived, the one person who really stayed true to his ideals.
In relation to the video, I think the ending is depressing yet honestly the best ending there could be. The cycle continues, whether Eren saw it or not.
"Inserts his own interpretation"
omg how did he not see this?
Life isn't perfect, it is full of bittersweet moments and if we forget the past we are bound to repeat the mistakes. Which is pretty much how AoT ends..whomever thought it would have a happy ending clearly didn't notice the dark themes throughout lol
I definitely didn't think it would end happily lmao Just wanted To See Eren Either Commit To His cause or actually accomplish his desire
@@JahMakesNerdies he did fulfilled it's desire of being able to "watch what's beyond the sea"
Even so, he was so scared of what he has to do, you can see it in it's eyes when he signaled far beyond the sea, and when he talked to Armin
It's not about Mikasa not live a happy life without him, what he really wanted to say is "I want to stay"
@@JahMakesNerdiesgod damn just say u blatantly don't understand erens character 😂
Bruh he only can see his memories
Then why did Eren see his mom die from Dina's perspective? Why did he see Historia as a child? PATHS is MacGuffin bullshit and Isayama is a shitty author.
Founder can see all.
@@anon9060 Historia and Dina what fuck man
@@Thomas48484 nope. He was sent those memories from himself through Historia because he's the one with the founder.
@@anon9060 The memories he sent himself were just enough to convince him to start the Rumbling. He didn’t get the entirety of the Eldian timeline until he got Ymir’s power. For instance he had no idea, he directed Dina towards his mother until AFTER, otherwise he could’ve upset the timeline. Everything that happened, had to happen.
so there's where all this hate for ending comes from, people not paying attention
Bro cry harder after the final episode i can say that the end credits scene s were just perfect, everyone is parsing those scenes it conveyed the meaning of the story perfectly.now that the world has accepted the ending of aot its time for you haters to go back to your cave and cope hard.
The first step is acceptance
I think when eren died, the original founder died alongside him, making it impossible for him to see this future, all he saw i that he dies in the end but didn't know that it will all start all over again. i remember the one theory about time travel in real life that you cant go back in time when there is no road to it, only when the first time machine is invented is when time ceases to exist, so just like this new tree, it means there will be a new founder/ new coordinate, in short, eren can only see through the lifetime of the last titan shifter related to ymir. thats just how I understood the ending
If that boy comes in contact with the hallucigenia, then that means something different from titans would appear.
Basically, Ymir though of herself being big and strong to protect herself, and so she became the first titan.
This means, that this little dude right here, would become a completely different monster than what titans are.
(Spoiler alert for those who haven't seen the show or the ending yet) Did you know there was a post story after the war it was about Mikasa at the ending of aot where there was still war but Mikasa was far from it and was still sitting at the tree where eren was buried and years later Mikasa has moved on and was seen visiting erens grave with her husband and child and of course there was still war (cause Eren was right)but she was still wearing the same scarf that Eren gave her and then mikasas death where she was buried next to Eren still wearing the scarf that truly shows that even if Mikasa married another man Eren will always be the one Mikasa loves the most no matter what. heck even death can't stop mikasas love for eren letterallty (see you later Eren)😢😢
Eremika was such a crappy ship
how TF 💀 eren >>> lelouch peace isn't for eternity once lelouch died what do you think war never fought btwn countries it was only a temporary peace Lelouch brought while eren situation was much worse experiencing future past present at a time so much burden all he could do was rumbling to erase titans from existance and make his secured he don't want to be a badas character he's just a human like other wants his priorities and nevertheless he knew no mc can bring peace for eternity 💀 he never intended for peace 💀
Just to clarify: Eren planned to do, & initiated the Rumbling BEFORE experiencing timeline distortion. He also never thought of erasing titans. He was erasing EVERYBODY who WASN’T Paradisian, meaning only titan-transforming people would be left. You are right that eternal peace wasn’t a factor for Eren, not because he KNEW it wasn’t, he just wasn’t concerned past his friends’ lives. He was just a guy, who received god-like powers that he tried to make the best of.
eren sees future memories not the future so he prob couldnt see what will happen after he dies but THEDIVISION explanation makes more sense
nvm
He gave historia his memories of the future after death.
It doesn't mean the founding Titan comes back it just means that in some way the cycle of violence is restarting
it’s so funny how the last anime episode came out and everyone loved it, the people who thought it was trash probably thought everyone was gonna agree with them lmaooo im dead af yo 😭😂
Manga readers been hating since the last chapter came out lmao
@@BuE551 yea im talking about those manga readers 😹
Eren could see the memories of future attack titans. The founding titan would be back in that case, but it may divide in different titans instead of the 9 we know, meaning that there will not be another attack titan after eren.
Those who are not able to understand the true outcome are saying that it s bad but actually it's the perfect ending for a masterpiece
Nice cope ig
Fr
His original ending inspired by the mist is better
This was somewhat explained in the anime/manga. That worm that gave Ymir her powers doesn’t necessarily bring the user titan powers. The powers it gives them is in conjunction with their own desires. Ymir’s desire was to survive, stemming from her fear of death (this is from the conversation Zeke has with Armin in the paths dimension). So this doesn’t mean the titans will return, but something else, maybe something worse.
There are multiple ways this can make sense.
1. Because the Founding Titan was killed, no memories were transferred through those 20000 years of no titans.
2. Eren did see it coming and just didn't tell anyone because he didn't want them to know that all their hard work was for nothing.
3. When the titan power returns, how do we know that there even is an Attack Titan? How do we know that they won't be something completely different fron titans?
The true message of this series is that the cycle of hate and violence never stops and that history is bound to repeat itself.
As long as mankind exists , war and conflict will also prevail because that is just how men are , even if there were 2 last people on the planet there would still be
So why was the paradise people even defending themselves if all their outcomes ended up being meaningless?
So what's the point of the story? Everyone knows history repeats itself blah blah. Congratulation, you made the whole manga redundant.
@@t-ro6176cause they ain’t tyrna die??
@@The_og_moonwalker the story is basically telling us that’s it’s wrong for them to defend themselves, so I’m wondering what’s the answer
@@t-ro6176 how does it say it’s wrong?
It's actually not that bad if we consider the multiple timelines.
First timeline: Eren and Mikasa run away. Eren dies 'sitting' down.
Second timeline (manga): Eren wakes up 'sitting' under the tree from chapter 1. Mikasa kills Eren and buries his head under the tree.
[Eren sees the ending/extended ending where Eldia is not totally safe in the future as he didn't completely finish off the rumbling. Since Eren will know what will happen, he'll try to change that.]
Third timeline (anime): Eren wakes up under the tree lying on the ground where his head was buried.
(In the manga timeline, Eren woke up from the first timeline dream ("See you later, Eren") just fine. Whereas in the anime timeline, Eren looks like he woke up from a nightmare. In the anime, right at the beginning, we see all those flashes of titans and a baby's room.)
There's so much trippy stuff. Including the other timelines with the boys in the sauna, and goth Mikasa and nerd Armin.
Dawg it’s terrible
The ending can be summed up in these four words: War, war never changes.
Aye new baby hallucinogen about to make cute sounds _😂_ _😂_
sometimes makes me think erens death was useless if it comes back
Dude its like 10000 years in the future. Day become night night become day. Its jjust cycle of life. If it breaks then the world ends.
@exDOGE but wasn't the whole point of eren's death was give his friends a long life and eradicate all the titans its kinda sad to think the titans still come back and rather than 13 years life span its eren's age when he died now💀
@@GazingStarstruck Its same as asking whats the point of ending World War I when then came World War II. It's life. It's what being human and living are. Just be glad it took 1000+ years (As we can see civilization advances and back to stone age) instead of happening in short time. Nothing new under the sun, cycle will continue or the world will end.
Isayama is genius, the story took a realistic approach instead of the end live happiliy ever after. It requires deep understanding to appreciate the message conveyed instead of "lol trash anime! Pointless ending!" "lmao eren got cucked by jean xD"
No one confirms titan will be back. It may be just another tree, or could be a completely new form of power from the "Source of all living matter"
Hey Eren eyes are open while controlling the founder like the war hammer titan and we have never seen him with his eyes open in Titan form
And started the rumbling but the cycle still repeats itself
I got the feeling they were setting up a "even though this entire thing was meaningless, the good moments were the real meaning" which is fine but why do we care about the rumbling or anything else like that.
You could say that eren couldn't see it happen, cause Ymir was the original founding titan, the one who found the power and who made off springs of other titans. Once eren died and the founding titan was essentially lost, the worm like creature returned to its place, waiting for a new host. So the memories and future Eren saw were only connected to Ymir, since this is no longer connected to Ymir, it's possible he didn't know about this. It's my speculation tho, I might be completely wrong. It may also be possible that Eren knew about this too, it's just something that needs to happen and will happen, it's just something that's out of his control and he knew it. I don't know tho, it's just speculations and some possible explanations
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It must be the parasite thats left behind, titans powers had died out lang ago
He can only see the future through attack titan's successors, and he's the last person who obtained the attack titan thus he won't be able to see it.
Even if he can see this, his mind is halfway controlled by the founding titan, making him unable to do anything about it. Also, just like when he talks about not baking able to revert the rumbling, I believe that he believes that he cannot stop the cycle, which is most likely true in the cruel Attack On Titan world.
I actually love this ending tbh. AOT isn’t supposed to be a story with a happy ending. The cycle of hatred and violence will always repeat because that’s human nature. You can have peace for awhile but war will always return someday. This ending absolutely makes sense and is the logical conclusion to this series imo.
As anime only, its an ambiguous ending. Christopher nolan is well known for using this type of ending. It is for the audience to choose or theorize the ending. Whether its the same tree for the founding titan, or just another tree to shelter, etc. Thats how i see it.
The future inheritor passes on the memories, not the passed inheritor can see the memories of future inheritors, the way they want
He did. He explained he couldn’t change anything, that was up to mikasa to confess to eren to avoid the rumbling. Always shoot your shot people the world might be counting on it.
Eren was not trying to stop all wars but only decrease wars inly for his own generation
He could have done that by just partial rumbling not by murdering bilions of people for Ymir knows why
@@krysert4552 Do you understand the reason behind the rumbling according to our view( Eren's and me)
@@deadly-blank well if we take it like it is his main goal with rumbling was to make his friends look like a Heroes not to stop the wars or anything cause if he did it would be a stupid idea to stop the rumbling at 80% since war will 100% happen afterwards and if he just tried to prevent wars in his own generation than it's even stupider because nobody in that generation would have guts to attack paradise if they had a rumbling under control no reason to murder 80% of them.
So anyway
Congrats you did it eren you made your friend look like a heroes ,sadly only for outside world because if they return to paradise they will get executed, and it only took 80% of f*cking world population to do it. But hey its not like you could idk do literally anything else
@@krysert4552 We understood very well that we cannot eradicate danger towards our friends so we removed most of the danger and left the remaining just so it can grow again .And you should know in AOT which ever side you pick the other side is the enemy and you also saw the Marley people were ready to kill every Eldian even after The Founding Titan was defeat.
@@deadly-blank oh yeah I know that depending on my side it chosse who is my enemy
Would be great If alliance knew it too
Bad ending my ass You all just made because you didn't get that fairy tale perfect ending where everyone is happy and it's sunshine and rainbows
It captures the true essence of humanity
Yeah eren showed vaunrability at the end and that's completely fine imagine yourself as a teenage boy who got world ending power out of nowhere and you have to choose between savings your whole kind and your friends or Rest of the people who were trying to eredicate your whole race even though your previous kings willingly left them alone and no other future ruler tried anything to harm them but they are still hell bent on killing your whole race
And that armin's line "thank you for being murderer for our sake".., was meant as yes eren what you did was for our sake Although I don't agree with your actions I understand where you are coming from
Eren himself said I am living past future present altogether and my brain is fried because he had to make hard decision like killing his mother so Armin can have colosal titan
And the extension that shows Titan powers are back probably its showing cycle of warfare in humanity
Attack on titan is just too real that's why I fell in love with this show but many peoples really dont like it when something shows their true nature up front
Whenever aot comes in conversation with my friends I always tell them that it's not isyame who ruined aot ending it's these animetubers and influencer who ruined it not trying to understand the story and what it's trying prove and what the actual plot is their stupid ass when they see Shiny flashy fights and popularity on a show they say It's goat but when something is trying to make how actually things would have happened they don't want to talk about because it will be controversial and their sheep ass audience goes with the flow
Aot had a good ending 10/10 for me anyone other has their own opinion on it I am fine but just don't be a sheep in the herd try to understand story and ending in your way then state your opinion just don't look at your favourite influencer and make their opinion your whole personality I bet if aot ending got very high rating on mal or imdb and had equal part of people who really tried to understand story and give their honest opinion half of the influencers would have changed their opinions
Exactly💯
Anime kids crying because there is no Disney style ending
And it's funny cause this is the disney ending lmao
I’m pretty sure they state in the show (can’t remember if they say it in the manga) that the attack titans power is to see the memories of future attack titan holders. He wouldn’t have been able to see past his own death if he was the last. Personally I think the ending is appropriate and good. All characters that we know get their happy ending and the conflict and possible return of the titan powers is so far in the future it dosnt really matter to the actual story, showing instead that war and conflict is unavoidable and inevitable become of human nature.
It's depicting that people will never stop the wars and fighting with each other. I quite like it.
I like it from that perspective
Even if it portrays reality, it does not mean it is a story well made. The “message” itself is not the problem, the problem is telling this message AFTER Isayama repeatedly hammering into our heads the themes of FREEDOM and FIGHTING and FRIENDS. What was the whole point? It all meant nothing. The result is not consistent at all to what the expectations built up to, that’s the problem.
Exactly
Aot ending was perfect. The cycle never stops. History always repeats even if you can see past and future it cannot be fixed.
I've never interpreted that as the titan powers coming back. The worm thing is gone. At that point, it's nothing but a tree
The worm never died
@@JahMakesNerdies what happened to it then?
@@RenderingUserthe reason they killed Eren is because they acknowledged they couldn’t kill the worm
@@JahMakesNerdies hmm alr. But where'd the worm go then?
from what i see, i think the boy has freedom whether he enters the tree or not unlike ymir's case where she needs to hide from her pursuers
Definitely not the message
How do you know lmao
@@anthonyhontz835 what it is then
@@BuE551 because the conclusion of it is an open ending, meaning we can interpret it on whatever we want
@@eliboi3443 it's obvious that he will enter the tree, he is even facing the entry
Loved the ending
Eren probably just didn’t care. His friends were already dead and they died at a time of peace. Eren would probably be unable to care less about the future because, as that scene of him crying in front of armin shows, he is selfish and just wants him and his friends to be happy no matter the cost (imo)
The ending is all about the cyclical nature of war. You can delay it, but humans fighting is inevitable. The day humans stop figuring is the day there is only one human left
The anime and the Manga are two parallel universes, and I think the writer would change the ending in the anime. Also, if you focus on the episode where Eren was beheaded, we will find Miksa and Armin, who are in the school novel in fleeting flashbacks. This also supports the theory that the anime and the Manga are parallel worlds
This clip explains what I said about Mixa and Armin
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both ending are good. lol you act like eren was suppose to end all world problems. eren was just doing him.
Wars cannot be ended
Eren did see this happen, in the anime he said himself that the war wont end and ittle continue
It's a very realistic ending as it shows no matter what happens, long term peace will never be achieved as long as life still exists on AOT
It’s not realistic at all. This is a Disney ending at most
@@yeetnessthegreater1298 give me a better ending
@@hk6915 There are literally many fan endings on youtube better than the original one .
@@hk6915 literally many people made their own endings that would be suited better. Go look at that dipshit.
As for me the main reason why I hated the ending was because of Eren’s death. He’s the only character in that anime that I give a damn about and connect with. Everyone else I never gave a F. I would prefer if Eren lived
@@hk6915 Eren exterminating 100% and dying by the hands of anyone(Armin or Mikasa) is a better ending than 139
Bro eren can only see his own future😅😅
Eren DID say that the conflict will not end even after all that was happened cane ro a conclusion. Since it's human nature to simply... destroy each other on the long-run
this aged like milk
How so?
@@JahMakesNerdiesonly Ymir knows
How so? The story here still has large holes and retcons ......
stop defending pls its trash
The anime ending is just like the manga lmao