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Legend has it that man is still responding with that Q at full peak. Stay safe brothers
Sounds like a pierce with Detroit motor with a strait stack ryker exhaust
Thomas Baird I love this motor
In my opinion I think you should let off a little more, not because its annoying, but because it gives the raise and lower of the tone, I think its more noticeable to hear it go up and down rather than a straight high tone, but then again, its a loud tone. great video! Be safe brother!
Its fine
@@A.Matt7 don't pin the siren at its peak for more than a few seconds at a time. It's designed to be wound up and coast down at varying levels. Continuous operation at peak rotation causes the clutch to "weld" to the rotor and decreases the performance of the unit. then it sounds like this czcams.com/video/kJ0i-hlxbaI/video.html
never ever ever too much Q siren
damn right
I actually bought an automotive charger for that purpose.Everytime I apply power,I watch all of my house lights just drop!So I don't do it as much as I would like to.
For those who worry about running the Q too long
 Does Your Q Siren Not Coast Down Like it Used to?
After a few times of having this phenomenon, and alot of tinkering, I have found the most common cause for Q siren issues. Being responsible for the maintenance on 8 trucks that have them I've had a chance to take them apart a few times and I thought I'd share my expierences with everyone so that you can easily fix a very simple problem.
If you have a Q siren and it winds down very quickly after you let the pedal go, the following is the most likely cause and repair. If you arent sure, try comparing the coast down times of two different sirens. A well trained ear can tell the difference. Essentially, you should be able to lightly tap the button and get about 30 seconds to a minute of coasting befire the siren stops completely.
The following contains terms that you might not find 100% mechanically correct, but hopefully you get the ideas!!
First, understand the basic operating principle of the siren. A very high powered motor that spins a rotor and creates the siren noise. The rotor is mounted on the motor shaft and has a closed bearing assembly that it sits on. Attached to the outer face of the rotor is what I would call a cork type of disc. At the very end of the shaft is a brass wheel (clutch) mounted on a worm gear. When you press the siren button, the spinning (centrifugal force) of the motor draws the clutch wheel into the disc and "bites" down, turning the rotor and producing the increase in siren pitch. When you release the siren button, the clutch wheel is supposed to release and "float" back on the worm gear to allow the rotor to continue free spinning on the downward pitch until you either depress the button again or it stops. The bearing that the rotor is mounted on allows a smooth and long downward spin.
What happens when you abuse the siren, is that the clutch mechanism freezes to the rotor, and instead of the siren winding down on the smooth rolling bearing, it winds down with the electric motor. Even if you have a nice clean motor, it doesnt take long for it to wind down and stop spinning. Abuse is when you pin the siren button down and allow it to scream at peak rotation for more than a few seconds. Some people think this is an effective siren use. In reality it only damages the unit.
Here is the simple fix.
1. Remove the 4 screws on the front of the siren that hold the face plate on. This is the part with the "F" on it. Take the face plate off.
2. Remove the 3 screws that hold the back housing on. Take the cover off.
3. Remove the 3 screws that hold the small cover on the siren shaft, these are inside the rotor on the front of the unit.
4. You shold now see the brass clutch mechanism mounted on the motor shaft. Spin the rotor and see if the clutch mechanism is stuck to the rotor mechanism. When you spin the rotor, it should spin free and easily and coast nice and smoothly. The brass clutch wheel should sit free of the rotor and not spin.
5. If the brass wheel is stuck to the pad on the rotor, try a few taps with a hammer to loosen it. If this is unsuccessful, utilize large channel lock pliers or a pipe wrench to turn the brass wheel. On the back of the motor is a piece you can attach a vise grip or other wrench to keep the shaft from spinning while you perform this trick.
6. Once free, test the siren by tapping the pedal a few times to see if the clutch wheel sticks to the rotor again. If it still gets stuck, use a VERY SMALL amount of multipurpose oil or WD40 to lubricate between the front face of the clutch wheel and the end of the motor shaft. DO NOT get any oil or grease between the clutch wheel and rotor. Doing this will cause the clutch pad to get slippery and the clutch mechanism will not grab properly. This will cause the siren to not wind up. Each time you tap the siren, it should wind up and when you release the pedal it should let the brass wheel spin free so the rotor can coast down.
7. Reassemble and promptly beat the worst offenders of Q siren abuse.
Hopefully this helps. If needed, I can take pictures of this process for anyone whl may need additional insight. Its a 10-15 minute fix in most cases. I encourage you to examine the components closely before banging and messing with stuff. As always, the manufacturer probably has some liability statment and maintenance booklet you should read first as well.
To prevent this problem, don't pin the siren at its peak for more than a few seconds at a time. It's designed to be wound up and coast down at varying levels. Continuous operation at peak rotation causes the clutch to "weld" to the rotor and decreases the performance of the unit.
Thanks for the tutorial. But I wouldn't discourage operators from peaking the mechanical Q for more than a few seconds. As mentioned in your tutorial,it has a heavy duty motor...and that's for expected heavy duty use. Not every response district has the same traffic density,directions,plane levels and response miles to travel. Not saying to peak it from responding to arrival either. Just to peak it when it's needed.
Not gonna lie, you wrote a lot of unnecessary bullshit.
FOR THOSE WHO WORRY ABOUT RUNNING THE Q TOO LONG
DOES YOUR Q SIREN NOT COAST
Q2 like music to my ears lol
THANK YOU FOR NOT BEING ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT RESPONDS WITH TWENTY TRUCKS (with one person on each truck)
There is no such thing as too much Fed Q!!
Awesome, altough there's no such thing as "too much" of the Q-siren :D
Is it really? How do you know this? To comment that statement,you must have "burned up" a mechanical siren before.
Q2B+AIRHORN+ PA300 siren (I think) = ONE HELL OF A RESPONSE!
I love the Q siren especially when I'm riding in the officer set responding to a call
Q siren: *goes down"
The guy controlling it: uno reverse card
Nice to meet you chief.Well,she has been riding for about a year and a half,a member I'd say three years.She is like a sister to me.I've known her since 2001.She went to school and worked with my old lady back then.
The reason for the Q is simple. Image a fully loaded dump truck was speeding down a street like a firetruck..... People would be upset because we know dump trucks are big, heavy and don't stop well. A fire engine is for the most part exactly the same and if a quick turn or braking should occur usually the results are not good. So the Q clears a path for the brick with wheels so people will be safe.
Hearing him come down the road blaring the siren like that I would be thinking we got bombed or something.
I don’t think you understand how helpful this is. I’ve been looking everywhere for one at full rpm for a long period of time and finally found after weeks of searcing
There is plenty on CZcams, nowadays.
Back when I first recorded this, not many at all.
Love it I am just watching now keep doing a great job 👏
Great Response videos keep doing it
@DotKritic Yup ,video hasn't changed since it was posted.
And I totally agree with you on the point of just peaking the "Q",or even an electric siren and horns.there has be different octive ranges,believe me I know.And my girl Procilla,I'll have to ask her for pictures.Sorry ,this response goes to Rofocowboy84
I want to apologize for my language in the beginning of the video.We all know that I have a filthy mouth.But im trying to improve my attitude.Thanks,fmartinjr.
I don't blame you when people don't yield,I never apologize for bad language
1:40 ........lol
Lol
Well, I have not seen it done.No "Q"s in this area have been burned up in the 40 years I lived here.THIS "Q" will be 13 straight years old of peaking next month.And it's NOT pointless because you or I don't perfer it.A peaked "Q" can be heard just like a "Q" coasting up and down.Only that a coasting "Q" is more effective for long-distance warning.
please do more like this
This is true,in reference to "Q" only.But as I stated,there is three audio devices being used.I like to use the electric siren on wail and only peak the "Q" as the rig is approaching intersections.Primarily I power the "Q" to it's mid-point of peak and let it coast to a strong low harmonic and leave the air horns to the driver.
Word up! Thank you
My brother is a chief for are fire department and he did to much federal q and I love it
@bulen24 Maybe not! (3) audo devices are in use.If one of the (3) can't be heard NOTICED, then none will be.And yes,exactly as the title reads,Too much "Q" siren
@redmanchewer01 Thank you. Thats my point exactly. There is only one thing that we love to do here in Culpeper and that is to refude to go in service in our own first due. OES 70 tried to place Wagon 8 and Utility 8 back in service just the other day and both the Wagon and Utility refused to go back in service since it was our box. On an 8 box, we dont go back in service unless confirmed that the emergency situation has disapated completely. Thats the East for sure lol. Take care man.
Does 23-2 or 23-5 have the roto-ray?
man your so fuunny coolest fire fighter ever
its beautiful!! i love it!!!! ^^
So, how is the "Q" sired activated? Is it in the horn button on the steering wheel?
Lmao that Q gonna burn up bro
My Fire Chief would kick my ass if used that much Q.
Engine 2 is a 1999 pierce dash and Engine 5 is a 2006 pierce dash
1:38....you tell em' Frank! haha, and after seeing two videos with the Q like this, when u were in Minquas there shoulda been a rule....fmartinjr in da house, fmartinjr up front! haha :D
damn man, to much of the Q siren. xD
What does all that stuff in the description mean?
Things that I watching , doing or being apart of ,that put my mindset into different prospects.
North Delaware.About 25 minutes south of Philly,Pa.
@DJSpikesan Word up.Beautiful comment.Thanks for that.
@michaelstokley1970 What do you mean by the de hood ?
Oh man... If i was responding i'd beg the Lt./Cpt. to lay off the Q for like 3 seconds... Roll up to the scene with a migraine...
you should re-wire the pedal to the back so the firefighters can do it right.
@Toronto324 why you hating for? what i was trying to say is that we do not pull the lever to make the air horn blow. we press a pedal on the floor to make it horn and it is illegal to drive a FD vehicle without all two hands on the steering wheel at all time. Just comparing the differnce btwn Canadian FD - US FD. Stay safe.
@MultiShooter123 ,you been checking out my videos and you don't know where fmartinjr is from?
KEEP YANKING IT FMARTTINJR LOVE YOUR STILE
AHAHAHAH!!! IM LAUGHIN MY ASS OFF!! LOVE IT
Yes sir ,I do. I put a video on here with me activating it ,as the acting officer on this engine here going to a motorcycle wreck
Why? It's not effective if it's not ramping up and down. People notice the differences in sounds, not one high pitched steady tone.
Volly.I love the "Q" at the peak too.But that mafuk'r had no activating style.
Captivemrhanky,did you comment on this ealier?If you did,I'm sorry but I accidently removed your initial post.If you didn't then I erased someone's comment.And then I think it was on the other clip that goes with this.
(Pleasant Hills Posse) It's the residential neighborhood we live in.
I was wondering when you needed 2nd due once the Q started a secondary vehicle fire on response.
I totally do not understand what it is you're asking. Check what you wrote and re-write it in proper English form.
It was english, sorry you feel so high on your horse you don't understand. I'll break it down barney style so you can comprehend mmkay? I said I was waiting for the part the federal caught fire and you needed to start a secondary unit to put out your own apparatus. How's that? Get it now?
You can calm your little funky-ass attitude down. Now, that re write was much better. And nothing caught on fire,so what are you talking about?
Federals HAVE caught fire. I think you need to do some research. It is obvious virtual words cause real butt hurt with you.
I don't need to do shit. How about that!
@gtm3cap No kidding.That's why the title reads as such.But thanks for informing us.
you can never have too much Q!
this is right up the street from my house
Holy Q siren Batman!
It is volunteers,and what?The girl is 10's of other videos on my channel.
Okay...I love the damn Q :-D
1:36 Min. WTF they are Doing ? Is the Siren not loug enough ?? They Foce the Firetuck to Stop.I don´t know what the Fine is,but I hope they get them.
@fmartinjr cool man awsoem videos
@train672 Who are you talking to?The officer of this rig does not see your comment to him.
Awesome video make as much noise as u can get them idiots out the way that driver can drive too and ya girl procilla is hott yall keep it up P.H.P MaFuKr !!!
Now thats how u respond
How do you think that? This siren is 13 years old and original. I guess it looked good for you type that though?
@PlatniumProductions Sometimes
let it wind down in the neighborhood there guys, there was no one in front of you
My exact words many times in 44 years
1:44
That's what she said.
@fmartinjr: Hey man from what you've told us, I don't blame ya..
Lucky you still had breaks! Lol
Almost all Q's are electromagnetic.
@fmartinjr OK I apologise, I just thought the Q should used on and off to give different sounds. If I upset someone, sorry. I was just giving my thoughts.
Many thanks for the vid :)
Friends now ?
Oh no another fire
where is theid FD located?
Foot switches and the steering wheel horn button.
Real firefighters drive safely bro ;)
Wht year r the pierce. are they recent
AAAAAA TOOOOO MUCH Q
@NC403Firefighter ,I'm still there.Still an active fire fighter but NOT giving them 300-400 runs a year no more.They can kiss by toes on that one.
nice station
Glad the Q still works after.. If you had it hooked up in your house.. You woulda drained like 10$ in electricity.. Them wires goin to the q are like 0 gauge.. Big mofuka's YEUH BOIII.. Stay safe frank!
in britain we have a mik of electronic warble ans hi-lo twotone horns, that gets them out of the way
Why is that?
I agree with this on one event... Its bad and you really, and I mean just really need to get there... you have that truck at 120 and your hauling and there is no stopping.... You rev that Q all the way and hold it, turn on 6adam, and as quick as possible beep the horn....
HOLY Q!
@DotKritic Not "you". Don't say "you" because I am not the officer of this fire engine.No kidding that the "Q" was not needed in the neighorhood! The title says"Too much Federal"Q" siren".So no need to state the obvious unless you just want attention. And yeah the driver he shit shit,don't we all.The shit talking hypes up the crew.Thanks, fmartinjr
What do you get Ten Calls to the Q
where is the switch for the federal-q?
ffrk1986 on the floor and steering wheel horn ring switch
Man I hate those house sirens...
Step 1 apply small pedal step 2 release when on scene
yes there is. and indeed. that was too much.
@Toronto324 And.........? That's great,Merry Christmas! I thought in Canada you use your feet to steer? You're trying to hard to make a point.
Come again?
I know.But when these people get up front I try not to say anything.And the reason why I didn't say anything to the officer was-all of the elected officers don't even blow the siren until the last minute if they use it all.And this (acting) officer will,like myself blow it in the residential middle class neighborhoods.
@301whitehall,you better say what you feel.
Some idiots in the beginning don't know how to stop for a firetruck.
are you a firefighter then? or a on a ride along?
correction. that was too long of a hold.